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HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 09:08 AM (EST) "Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" You have to remember that text msgs are saved and even years later they can be found. In the 4 months that they got over 4 years ago they found 1400 txt msg......and there are a majority that they can not print because they are graphic. There are tons and ton more on the main page. Mayor Kilpatrick, chief of staff lied under oath, text messages show So now we have another perjury case on the horizon and it's has already cost the city $9 Million and there are several other cases in the pipe line. Save the city some more money and embarrassment...Resign today! Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... Spanky68 01-24-08 1    RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-24-08 3  RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... nailbone 01-24-08 2    RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-24-08 4        RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... miamicatt 01-24-08 5            RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-24-08 6  RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... jbug 01-24-08 7    RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-24-08 8        RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... geg6 01-24-08 9            RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... emydi 01-25-08 13                RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... geg6 01-25-08 17            RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-25-08 15        RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... jbug 01-24-08 10  RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... AyaK 01-24-08 11    RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-25-08 12        RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... AyaK 01-25-08 14            RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-25-08 16                RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... AyaK 01-27-08 21                    RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-27-08 22                        RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... AyaK 01-27-08 23                            RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staf... HobbsofMI 01-27-08 24    What the prosecutor said: HobbsofMI 01-25-08 18  More info that the Mayor did not wa... HobbsofMI 01-25-08 19    Looks now that his catting around w... HobbsofMI 01-26-08 20  The first YouTube parody.... HobbsofMI 01-27-08 25  Beatty quits....one down, one to go... HobbsofMI 01-28-08 26  I know noones cares but this is fun... HobbsofMI 01-30-08 27

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Spanky68 8092 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 01:01 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Busted. I thought this guy sounded familiar. He's the one who threw the microphone during an interview, right? Sounds like he is a disaster as mayor. I hope you guys can get a good one soon. Corruption knows no background, region or political party. Agman tricked out my siggie   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 03:10 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Yep..that's the one...plus leased a $25K Navigator for his wife and then hid it, his "crew" (protection detail) body checked that same reporter, office admin people stole $50K out of petty cash, Washington DC police stopped give him protection when he came to town due to clubbing too much, etc. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 03:07 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Text messages are saved? Where?   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 03:15 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Since government officials are subject to the Freedom of Information Act everything must be saved. So Detroit used a company out of Mississippi, SkyTel, for their text messenging and all of them were saved. Now these were 2002 and 2003 and he says it's in the pass but the paper, plus every other news source in Detroit, want them all since he's been in office. IT info on the story So more news at 11.... Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 03:18 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Doncha mean SkyNET? Then come with me if you want to live. Or be governor. Whatever.   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 03:20 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" LAST EDITED ON 01-24-08 AT 03:20 PM (EST) Well...I don't think this will be the end of Kwameator.....he can't be destroyed.... Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

jbug 17146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 03:49 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" and here I thought Memphis was alone with it's embarrassing mayor and other politicians -- silly me--- wanna trade?   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 04:05 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" What did your mayor do? I'll trade Kwame in a heart beat....even for W. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 04:12 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" *hands Luke Ravenstahl to Hobbs* Here you go. Boy wonder, my ass. And while we're at it? How would you like a county chairman? I've had about enough of Dan Onorato and his idea of taxing all of us for a public transit system that none of us are able to use. Well, with the exception of Emy, that is. "A single zealot may commence persecutor, and better men be his victims."-- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-08, 09:50 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Pshaw...you live in Beaver County! But have a drink on for me when you come to Pgh I spend $75.00 a month for my bus pass...   Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-08, 11:31 AM (EST) 17. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" LAST EDITED ON 01-25-08 AT 11:35 AM (EST) I will not be drinking any alcohol in Allegheny County ever again. And there are several bars/restaurants in Sewickley that are not at all happy about that. "With all the talk about how to stimulate it, you'd think that the economy is a giant clitoris." - Barbara Ehrenreich Edited to add: PAT used to provide service in Beaver County into the city and into Robinson. BCTA now is expected to do it. Unfortunately, unless you can get to their headquarters on your own, you can't get that bus. Public transportation is a complete disgrace in such a relatively large urban area. I mean, cut me an f-ing break, do we really need a tunnel under the Allegheny for the kiddie car ride they call a subway?   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-08, 10:13 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Well...I would take him over Kwame right now. At least your boy wonder just crashes parties to get his picture with Tiger Woods and drives around with Homeland Security and now ripping off the city and costing it over $10 million in lawsuit payouts to date and another $500K for his defense in those suits. Plus there are another 4 or 5 coming. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

jbug 17146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 04:16 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Let's set the record straight - he's not MY mayor! I don't live in the city...... And? It's more like what did he not do. If it's been thought of, he's done it. For some reason he keeps getting re-elected over and over. Yet he has done more to keep the racial tensions and issues in the city going than you can imagine. Listen to WREC am 600 sometimes - Mike Fleming - he calls him King Willie. get the picture?   Top

AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-24-08, 09:37 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" >So now we have another perjury case on the horizon Probably not. Although sex-crazed Kwame and his sex-crazed bimbo were lying, as usual, on the witness stand, it's my understanding that the case was settled between the parties. Generally, there isn't any type of action for perjury brought when a case is settled, because there wasn't any reliance by the fact-finders (the jury or the judge) on the perjured testimony.   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-08, 08:36 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" LAST EDITED ON 01-25-08 AT 09:34 AM (EST) I can't find the link in the Free Press but they say that he can still be prosecuted by the County Prosecutor and she is having a press conference at 10 am today to kick off her investigation. Plus there maybe an obstruction of justice charge because it someone called SkyTel and told them not to mail the txt msg to the judge when the case was going on. There is a lot of thought the the County Prosecutor will go through the motion but say there is not enough there for perjury because all you have is the txt msg and you need two sources but there are the whistle blower cops that saw things and now we have the hotels, spas, etc. so if I'm sure someone saw something for a second source. Plus now all the news outlets want all the txt msg and travel bills for the Mayor and his Chief of Staff. So more news at 11 for a long time to come. Link on Prosecutors presser Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-08, 10:05 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" >all you have is the txt msg and you need two sources That hasn't been the law in hundreds of years. All you need is something like this incredibly damning direct evidence in a case that turns on "knowing falsehood", as perjury does. Still, it's not like there was a miscarriage of justice -- the case was settled.   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-08, 11:25 AM (EST) 16. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" LAST EDITED ON 01-25-08 AT 11:27 AM (EST) The two sources is what the talking legal heads have been saying all over the news. I thought it was off. The case is settled but there are 2 more related to it and then there is the obstruction charge. The txt msg directly contradict their testimony in that case so if the questions were "clear", no what is the meaning of is, then just that could lead to charges and a conviction. So you are saying if I lie on the stand and then the case is settled I can't get prosecuted for perjury? That don't seem right. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-08, 02:51 AM (EST) 21. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" I didn't say you couldn't get prosecuted. Lying under oath is still illegal. But you almost never see a prosecution in a case that was settled before being submitted to a fact-finding verdict by either a judge or jury. For example, in Massachusetts the speaker of the state House testified in one case that he had had no involvement in drafting a law. In a second case, he testified that he had some involvement but hadn't looked at the law carefully. The first case was settled. The second case went to a verdict, where the judges ruled against the speaker's side. Then it came out that the law in question had actually been drafted by the speaker's office, and two of his aides testified that the speaker had personally drafted the law. His lie in the first case was total and obvious. His lie in the second case was more subtle. Guess in which case he was prosecuted for perjury? Right, the second. Why? Because it went to a verdict, so you could prove that when the case was fully submitted, his statements were false, and so he had tried to mislead the factfinders. The first case was never fully submitted.   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-08, 02:42 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" Ahhh...but the jury did speak and found in favor of the two fired cops. The jury reached the cost and the Mayor stood out in front of city hall saying he was going to appeal it. Then they reached a settlement agreement instead of appealing it. So this case was fully submitted. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-08, 05:44 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" I didn't know that. Where's Emily Littela when I want to hide behind her?   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-08, 09:29 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Detroit Mayor and Chief of Staff affair caught in text msgs" So now you can see why the Mayor and his Chief of staff can be tried for perjury.....many are calling for them both to step down but Kwame is too big for that and Beatty seems to have just as big of balls as he does from her own run ins with the law. She accused two cops of setting her up on a raining day speed trap and another for losing another ticket on purpose after it was turned over to the watch commander. The Mayor got home tonight so the next few days should be interesting now that he is back in town. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-08, 12:32 PM (EST) 18. "What the prosecutor said: " Probe launched over Detroit mayor texts Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-08, 01:19 PM (EST) 19. "More info that the Mayor did not want coming out....is now..." The Mayor, who has always stressed that we should invest in the City of Detroit, bought a house in FL about 6 months ago for $430,000 but the loan was from Quicken Loans who just announced at the same time that they were moving their operations to the City of Detroit. The loan has around a 5% variable rate for 30 years. In the past 3 days it's been put back up on the market. for only 3% more than he bought it. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-26-08, 08:44 PM (EST) 20. "Looks now that his catting around was not over..." LAST EDITED ON 01-26-08 AT 08:44 PM (EST) Amid MLK event, mayor with woman at resort One of the local TV stations has learned that at an MLK event just last week he had another woman with him on the trip. Christen Beatty has been confirmed in another place so it was not her as was the mayor's wife and kids. He and Beatty are still in hiding and the Deputy Mayor is running the city. More and more people are coming out trying to spin this every which way to keep him and her in their positions but there are more and more calling for him to resign as more and more info on his travels are getting out. Plus they are deposing the lawyer for the whistle blowers lawsuit to see if there was a confidentiality agreement with that lawsuit...since that would be against the law too since it was a government case and against the freedom of information act. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-08, 09:35 PM (EST) 25. "The first YouTube parody...." Very funny.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7qSEiuwiro Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-28-08, 01:15 PM (EST) 26. "Beatty quits....one down, one to go...." Beatty quits, says she regrets 'devastation' caused by scandal And you can kiss her law career good bye too....she was about a year away from graduating from law school. Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-30-08, 12:01 PM (EST) 27. "I know noones cares but this is funny: Kwame Speaks" Save Peter and Hiro, Save Heroes sig by Pepe and bouncy by IceCat   Top

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