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"Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson"
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"Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
1. Lobbyist
2. S&L
Actually curious how the OT voters-for-evil, oops, Republicans (I keed! I keed because I lvoe!) feel about the Thompson candidacy. Yeah, I know, not til July 4. But I think it's a lock.
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05-31-07, 05:56 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
I have three words:
1. Same
2. old
3. sh!t
agman's travel service (yarrr)
Will is more important than skill.
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05-31-07, 06:04 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
4. He'll
5. Probably
6. Win
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05-31-07, 06:17 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
1. I
2. Know
3. DamnitUnless Harrison Ford runs on the democratic ticket.
Will be unable to watch L&O reruns for a bit, methinks.
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05-31-07, 06:23 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
4. Enough
5. Actors
6. Already
Foo dogs by tribe.
Smooth talking is an acquired skill.
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05-31-07, 06:34 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Fred is a firm advocate of Traditional Marriage Values. Here he is pictured with Mrs. Fred. Yes, that is the second Mrs. Fred, of course.
I am also having trouble finding anything to read about his military service, given that he is credited with being a "tough guy" and all. Perhaps it is because he has never served in a war, despite supporting them. He was eligible for several in the past few decades. 
And he's on tv playing a tough guy head honcho. So Americans will decide he's qualified. Certainly, were I Republican, I'd be happier voting for this lobbyist/lawyer/actor/former senator than, say, the Evolving Mitt Romney or Mr. Guiliani. *sighs*
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05-31-07, 06:53 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
A hot wife is a plus in any party.The bottom line with Fred and the GOP is that he has a consistent record of conservative action, which is a huge vacuum in the primary right now. I don't believe that anyone thinks that he is a cure-all, but none of the other candidates out there give the Right warm fuzzies. 
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06-01-07, 10:08 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
A hot wife is a plus in any party.I'm sure you didn't mean to put your finger directly on the stove burner, but that right there is a CORE problem with our society, reflected in our political system. VERY illuminating, though I'm sure you meant it as a cute quip. 
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06-01-07, 11:18 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-01-07 AT 11:39 AM (EST)From IMDB: 2nd wife Jeri, 35, is a political media consultant at Verner Liipfert law firm in Washington, who once worked for Senate Republican Conference and Republican National Committee. Looks like she might actually have some street cred too. From the picture, I imagined her initial act as First Lady would be to have a Victoria's Secret shop set up in the White House. Edited to change lay to lady. *snort* Classic Freudian slip. 
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06-01-07, 03:03 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
I'm not the least bit surprised that someone beat me to that point. My first two thoughts were...A. She's with him?
B. She's in politics? Likewise, doesn't change my voting platform, but made me do a double take.
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05-31-07, 07:36 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
>Actually curious how the OT voters-for-evil, oops, Republicans
>(I keed! I keed because I lvoe!) feel about the Thompson
>candidacy. Yeah, I know, not til July 4. But
>I think it's a lock. It's been obvious he was actually planning to run since he did that clever video reply to Michael Moore. Let's see: he was Republican chief counsel on the committee investigating Watergate, which is what originally made him famous -- he was the go-to guy for quotes from Republicans about Nixon being a crook. That's a plus. He was one of Howard Baker's people. That's a plus. He was the lawyer in the paroles-for-cash scandal that brought down a crooked Tennessee givernor. That's a plus. He had the good sense to parlay that into a role in the movie Marie, which dealt with the real case, and became a full-time working character actor in an industry that spits people out like seeds, despite looking old from a young age. That's a plus. His first marriage lasted 26 years. Then he was single for 17 years before remarrying. It doesn't look like he was dumping wife #1 to find a trophy wife, even if wife #2 (who wasn't even born until he and wife #1 were married for 7 years) looks like one. That's a plus. Ginger is afraid of a Thompson candidacy or she wouldn't have started this thread. That's a plus. He's clever; you don't fall asleep listening to him speak. That's a plus. He wouldn't appoint judges like Ginsburg or Souter. That's a plus. He actively supported McCain in 2000. That's a plus. He voted for McCain-Feingold. That's a minus. He voted against the national DUI bill. That's a HUGE plus, as he was the only person to do it. (For why this was a bad bill, see O'Connor's dissent (joined by Brennan) in South Dakota v. Dole.) He voted for a federal ban on DX abortions. He also voted for an anti-flag-burning amendment. That's a HUGE minus (not to PRE and newsome, but I'm not answering for them, just me). (If DUI should be a state decision under federalist principles, why not abortion too? And why isn't flag burning regular speech?) He's consistently voted in favor of free trade. That's a plus. He voted against permitting the importation of prescription drugs from Canada. That's a minus, because it shows he doesn't really believe in the power of markets, despite the free trade rhetoric. In other words, he has a lot of good points on a personal level, but he's not really a federalist, though he claims to be. He wouldn't be my choice on the issues, though he has a wonderful background. Would I vote for him? Sure, if my only other option were Clinton or Obama. But I'm not blown away by him.
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06-01-07, 01:21 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
And just like Ronnie, he has celluloid military experience.No Way Out (sorta)
China Beach
Fat Man and Little Boy
Hunt For Red October
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06-01-07, 03:21 AM (EST)
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11. "For the rest of it..." |
For the benefit of OT readers, an overview of his past positions on most issues can be found at the On the Issues site. He is clearly a social conservative on almost all the hot-button issues such as abortion and sexual orientation, as well as a fiscal and foreign policy conservative.There's plenty of material to go on as far as determining what his views are on things, including quite a number of articles on a variety of topics that he has written and published even recently as Visiting Fellow with the American Enterprise Institute. (AEI article search list.) From his article on Federalism: Everyone in Washington embraces Federalism until it comes to someone's pet project designed to appeal to the voters. Then, oftentimes, even the most ardent Federalist throws in with the "Washington solution" crowd. I fought this for eight years in the Senate. I remember one vote (I believe it was 99 to one) when mine was the only vote cast for Federalism. Now I can assure you that I have nothing against good Samaritans. If a person stops to help someone in distress on the highway and something bad happens, generally, the good Samaritan should not be sued by some overly ambitious trial lawyer. But states are, and have been for years, perfectly capable of handling this burning issue--as well as all of the sub-issues that are raised, such as who should be protected as a good Samaritan. What if he was intoxicated and made a slight misstep while applying medical relief? What if he was not impaired, but made a gross error and turns a minor problem into a significant one? You get the idea. This is traditionally state law stuff. Is this really something the federal government should involve itself in?
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06-05-07, 11:29 AM (EST)
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54. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
He voted for a federal ban on DX abortions. He also voted for an anti-flag-burning amendment. That's a HUGE minus (not to PRE and newsome, but I'm not answering for them, just me).Actually, those are slight plus and negative for me, in that order. If I wasn't becoming more and more a fedralist myself these days, they would probably be plus and neutral, again, in that order. 
Thrown to the brimey deeps by Agman, 2007.
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06-01-07, 02:02 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Dadburn Hollywood liberal elite is trying to take over politics.
Like Sonny Bono, Ahnold, Goober from Love Boat, Harold Stassen (hoofer from the good old days) ......hmmm....has there ever been a Democrat entertainer that's held public office?
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06-01-07, 03:55 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Is he a Law & Order candidate?
Okay, I was the only one who laughed. I can live with that.
bumm bumm.... /Law & Order sting music
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06-01-07, 07:45 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
i'm torn on this one. i actually voted for thompson twice when the chance was given and, as a senator, he did not enrage me in the way that frist did (for whom i also voted twice, god forgive me). thompson is from lawrenceburg, tn, which is within spitting distance of my house. his senate voting record was very much representative of the people who sent him there in the first place, overall (me, i am far more socially liberal than him or the majority of my fellow voters. big surprise). i have always just liked the guy. can't help it. of all those that are throwing a hat in for president on the republican side, he and rudy are the only two that i could possibly ever consider voting for for different reasons. my philosophies have changed dramatically since he was elected to the senate and i'm not sure that given the chance today i would vote for him--unless he was running against jim cooper again. then it would be a breeze because cooper was just annoying. thompson just wiped the floor with him and made him look like a no-lipped, whining child. if thompson were elected, i would not feel as if we had a monkey in the white house. he's smart. he's tough. he's no b.s. he's been around long enough to know that you can't try to run the show in a vacuum. that said, i'm still voting democrat unless some goon ends up getting the nom.  Kimmah Says
--i think that hilary and obama and every other dem. candidate should be very afraid, though. thompson on campaign is going to be damn hard to beat, actor or not. he's very likeable.
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06-01-07, 10:04 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-01-07 AT 01:20 PM (EST)I'm much more socially liberal than most Republicans as well. But I'm not as bothered by Thompson's social conservatism as by his inconsistent adherence to federalism. A true federalist is going to leave most decisions on such issues to the states. So the only fallout should be Roe being toast -- but all that should do is return the issue to state-law determination, and I believe abortion would still be legal in most states without Roe. It's when I see that Thompson voted for the partial-birth abortion bill that I question his commitment to federalism, despite all of his rhetoric about being a federalist. A true federalist would have voted aganst that bill on the grounds that such limits should be a state decision. That said, the dangers of a Democratic presidency were reemphasized to me this week by the 5-4 decision in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire and Rubber. To me, the statute was clear on its face. However, the minority (Ginsburg, Breyer, Souter, Stevens) came up with "policy reasons" why the clear language of the statute should be ignored -- ignoring themselves that the statute was a compromise which ended up aping existing law, on which the majority's position was clearly correct. In writing about the statute, NYT leftist legal analyst Linda Greenhouse wrote that Justice O'Connor "would almost certainly have voted the other way" -- ignoring the fact that O'Connor was on record with regard to THIS SAME STATUTE arguing that all the time limits in it should be respected as written. That points out to me that, from the rank and file (Greenhouse) to the leaders (the 4 Justices), Democrats continue to see the Supreme Court as a "super-legislature," where they can achieve by judicial fiat the policy aims that they can't get in Congress. That can't be right ... and yet it's what seems likely to happen under Democrat rule.
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06-01-07, 10:14 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
So the only fallout should be Roe being toast -- but all that should do is return the issue to state-law determination, and I believe abortion would still be legal in most states without Roe.The same states that systematically, panic-button reflexively and religiously banned gay marriage? In that case, I'm going to read 'most' as 'five out of fifty'. Because as soon as Roe is repealed, the exact same elements will be going to work for pretty much all of the same reasons. from the rank and file (Greenhouse) to the leaders (the 4 Justices) continue to see the Supreme Court as a "super-legislature," where they can achieve by judicial fiat the policy aims that they can't get in Congress. As opposed to the current rank-and-file policy of letting the White House do whatever it likes and declaring anyone who speaks against it to be a traitor. But that's at least in part due to who they're ranking and filing themselves under. Either way for either party, it's not necessarily a self-curing problem.
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06-01-07, 10:31 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
I actually states would be a lot more flexible than SCOTUS or the Congress if Roe were reversed. There would be a number of states that would outlaw abortion completely - say about 20-25? - but the remainder, once freed from the Roe trimester formula would probably place reasonable limits on the time and types of abortion allowed. A small handful - maybe 5 - would keep the current 'any abortion, any time, any where' policy that is in place today.Of course, your definition of reasonable will likely be different from mine. Reasonable is not usually one of my monikers in these parts.
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06-01-07, 10:53 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Right. Sure. The elements that want gay marriage across-the-board banned -- the same elements that want abortion for any and all reasons permanently outlawed -- will be happy to stop at twenty. Or twenty-five. And they will never, ever use their influence to run roughshod over anyone who disagrees with them. Nor will they use dirty tactics to get what they want, and of course they'll honor the wishes of those not within their group. Keep marking it down. I'm still not buying it.
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06-01-07, 11:15 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Sorry. Judging other people's values is pretty much what your party's all about these days. Try again.
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06-01-07, 11:30 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
>Sorry. Judging other people's values
>is pretty much what your
>party's all about these days.
> Try again. That's neither here nor there, I was just stating what I thought the actual outcome would be from a Roe reversal. Obviously I favor that, as well as the outlawing of abortion. Neither of those opinions matter; in this case I'm just doing the math. I think that most of the South, with the exception of FL, and most of the breadbasket and square states, would enact such a ban. OTOH, CA, NY, MA, OR, WA, CT, IL(?) and HI would probably have zero restrictions.
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06-01-07, 11:43 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
That's neither here nor thereNo, that's the soul and center. As soon as you decide you know what's best for everyone regardless of situation, circumstances, or free will, then you haven't made everything else secondary to your position. You've made everything else cease to exist. I can vote conservative. I will not vote fanatic -- and right now, that's just about all your party has left. You want me to go farther? Fine. I'll go farther. At this moment, there are only two chief difference remaining between the Religious Right and al-Qaeda: the book whose creed they claim they're trying to advance, and the fatalities incurred in the process. You can answer the question of which side has killed more people, but I want you to count suicides. Amazing how two books that different keep wind up saying exactly the same thing.
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06-01-07, 06:07 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
>As opposed to the current rank-and-file
>policy of letting the White House do whatever it likes
>and declaring anyone who speaks against it to be a
>traitor? But that's at least in part due to
>who they're ranking and filing themselves under. Maybe we should add a new DAW category: "Traitor". Or, better yet, "Blood Traitor". Of course, we need Voldemort to go on reality TV first.
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06-01-07, 06:15 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
*blink* What are you talking about? Voldemort was on the first season of The Apprentice. Did you get Obliviated again?
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06-05-07, 12:31 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Maybe I've been Confunded.
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06-01-07, 09:19 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
I thought he had Lymphoma?
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16. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
It's in remission.
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06-01-07, 11:21 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Ayak is right, as usual - I totally fear and loathe the impending Thompson lovefest and nomination. I'm not even wild about Barry O. because of all the rush-to-embrace-the-second-coming-Obamanation. Plus, it depresses me to think how many Americans -- NOT the Republicans on this Board -- will vote for Fred because they buy what they see on tv, or in the movies. Fred's cancer will be a nonissue or a plus. Ditto the wife. She'll look snappy in red. When Ahnuld first ran, my boss actually thought I was CRAZY when I immediately predicted a win. Besides, the complete inanity of the Republican menu of alternative candidate options, with the possible exception of Mr. Paul (how did HE happen?), was a rare treat for those of us who felt the Clinton presidency was not America's Darkest Hour. Schadenfreude is a complicated mistress.
(Now Boss thinks I'm crazy because I forsee a horrible future, a future ordaned by SYLVESTER STALLONE, only he thought he was kidding, in Demolition Man, a future in which the constitution is amended and we have President Schwarzenegger. He's a very gifted politician for a beginner).
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32. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
with the possible exception of Mr. Paul (how did HE happen?)Did you see him on Real Time with Bill Maher? Bill loves him.
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06-01-07, 03:56 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Yes. Mr. Paul was a delight. So much so that I keep wondering if he wandered onto the right ticket.
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06-01-07, 05:39 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
He's in favor of legalizing pot.
"Just" the war?????
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06-01-07, 06:05 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Nah, I wouldn't vote for a pro-life liberal.And I also support legalizing pot.
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06-01-07, 06:09 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
>Nah, I wouldn't vote for a pro-life liberal. First, you'd have to find one.
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06-01-07, 06:14 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
and, you'd have to stop calling them ProLife and begin calling them what they really are which is Anti-choice. I'm a woman, I get to say that.Orwell, a man, predicted this about the power of words. If they are ProLife then they would be anti-gun, anti-war and so much more. No sweat on my part, but lets call it what it is : Anti Choice.
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06-01-07, 06:19 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Hi, Smokeysmom. You're new here and I like you already.
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06-01-07, 06:23 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Hi ginger! Thanks for the welcome. I've lurked long enough to know you and I are oten on the same page too! Hey -- I may be accused of semantics, but I love and respect writing and words like most of the OTers.
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06-01-07, 06:22 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Nah, I wouldn't vote for a pro-life liberal.I understand. Wouldn't want government interfering in any but the most personal of choices. 
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40. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Why would anyone favor eliminating the IRS? Seriously?People are going to cheat on their taxes, no matter how low or flat tax rates are. If you eliminate the IRS, it's like admitting that they can get away with it.
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06-01-07, 06:01 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
I am not voting for Mr. Paul. I simply felt his style and candor with respect to 911 were laudible.
There's a lawyer here who worked for the IRS for 20 years and I suspect he'd be in favor of abolishing the IRS, too.
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06-01-07, 06:12 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
>If you eliminate income taxes altogether....it's
>hard to cheat on a VAT or a national sales
>tax, although I guess someone would have to collect those
>revenues. Hard to cheat on a VAT? Bwahahahaha. It's easier than cheating on income tax. 
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06-01-07, 04:10 PM (EST)
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35. "here are my...." |
two words
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06-01-07, 04:52 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: here are my...." |
It's funny, because I don't have a soundcard, but I could see the words "doink doink" running in the background, so I can kind of guess what your comment is.And I still lvoe the word "doink." But my context is different.
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06-01-07, 11:37 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
Although he goes against the grain on my more liberal issues, he is closer to the core on my big issues; hence, he'll probably get a long hard look from me.
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06-05-07, 11:55 AM (EST)
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55. "RE: Two Words I'd Like to Toss Out There Regarding Fred Thompson" |
His greatest plus, of course...He's not Newt. It's all the Stratego game, really, because the fundies really want Newt but Fred has the sexappeal so they'll vie for Newt to be the new Cheney.
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57. "The Fred Thompson Blog" |
http://www.abcradio.com/blog.asp?id=15663It has archives through April, for those who would like to read some of his most recent published opinions.
Thrown to the brimey deeps by Agman, 2007.
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Of course, you are 100% correct - I'm an idealogue and I vote based on beliefs; not hot wives, not electability (well, maybe just a little) or demographics. Plain and simple I support the candidate who is the best reflection of my ideals.
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