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"Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand"
Dakota 5819 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-16-07, 05:03 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Thanks, Ginger. I hadn't heard about this. The article says that Menu Foods will have the names of affected products on its website Saturday morning. Charter Member: Club Anti-DAW
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AZ_Leo 3526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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03-18-07, 12:39 PM (EST)
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6. "Not just store brands" |
I was surprised to find Hill's Science Diet as well as Iams and Eukanuba. I do feed my cats Science Diet but only the light or senior versions so, according to this, I'm not affected. The company is saying they aren't sure it is their food yet they seem to be very specific in what they are recalling. Just to be safe I don't think I will feed them any more Hill's for a while.Recall Product Info A tribephyl original
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frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-16-07, 05:57 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Thanks, GinGin. *headbutt*Here's the Canadian version of the story. The Master Choice label is sold by A&P and Food Basics. The Compliments label is sold by No Frills. No word yet on my . This looks like a pretty big deal! is probably turning over in his grave!
Rolly made this.
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Puffy 6703 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-16-07, 06:30 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Thanks for the warning.
We'll hire our own chef for now on.
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Dakota 5819 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-16-07, 09:10 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Not to worry, we won't give you any of the bad stuff. Charter Member: Club Anti-DAW
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foonermints 14531 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-18-07, 01:57 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Thank you so much for the warning and the link. Fortunately, we've been feeding the beasties Artemis and Felidae, although one of the little monsters is in love with all of the Friskies "Prime Filets" wet food in cans. Guess he's in for a change of diet until I'm sure about it. Maybe I'll just bake him a chicken.
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ginger 22512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-19-07, 10:12 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Felidae is our general brand, too, esp. since it is the only one my vet approves for kittens AND cats. I suspect Felidae contains more food of nutritional value than, say, a Big Mac - it's pretty amazing stuff.Thank dog for buy 3/get one free at Petfood Express.
Of course, Dweeze can only eat the pricey Rabbit N Pea Royal Canin Vet Special Diet stuff. No bargain, there, either.
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Lasann 3616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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03-19-07, 08:47 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
OMG, I wonder if that is what was wrong with Itty Bitty. I had to put her to sleep.I use Iam's dry and occassinaly give my cats the canned, as a treat. It a Tribe original!!!
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weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-19-07, 10:09 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Ack! Well, at least you'd know what the problem stemmed from. *hugs*We feed our cats Nutro brand, but just the dry stuff. For wet, they MIGHT have had one of the packets, but I'm not sure. I grabbed a one miscellaneous packet at the store a month ago and can't remember the brand.
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dragonflies 8051 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-19-07, 10:53 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Me too Bravie. When my other cats got older, I gave them wet food all the time. But I haven't ever given my 2 current kitties anything except dry. I always thought I was being a mean cat mom...
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Lasann 3616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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03-23-07, 12:46 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Update on cat and probabbly kitty: My Smokey (11 yrs old) has feline lukemia. That's probably what got Itty Bitty. I'm on my way to the vet soon to see what I need to do. I'll post pictures when I get my laptop working again. It a Tribe original!!!
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Glow 14353 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-07, 12:54 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
{{{lasann}}} {{{Smokey}}}
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foonermints 14531 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-07, 11:34 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
I hope it wasn't. {{hug}} Stupid cats, I'd give up and die without them. I want to adopt eight more, but it just isn't practical.
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Seana 5044 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-19-07, 07:10 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-19-07 AT 07:10 PM (EST)Phew. We're OK. They only get about a tablespoon of Frisky's Friskies wet per day each, which isn't on the list. Otherwise, they get the President's Choice dry Hairball Control. I have, in the past, bought PC gravy and chunks pouches. Now I'm really glad the cats are so picky. Prettiness by tribe
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DearAbby 3008 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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03-23-07, 11:00 AM (EST)
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14. "Rat poison found in tainted pet food" |
A news conference is scheduled for 1:00 today.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ The rat poison, which may have been used on wheat imported from China, is illegal in the U.S., NBC News correspondent Tom Costello told MSNBC TV. Puppy lvoe by tribephyl 2006
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buckeyegirl 5449 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-07, 11:16 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
I work in a grocery store, and it's been a nightmare dealing with this..everyone has a million questions. My mom just heard on the news that there was rat poision in the food, and that's whats causing all the animals to be sick..that's just horrible. I'll try to find a link for it...
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-07, 12:59 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
I think the company in question is based in Canada, so that may be part of the problem, not sure...........
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Glow 14353 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-07, 12:54 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
this is horrifying for me. Horrifying.
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mysticwolf 10692 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-07, 05:46 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
Try this for horror: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17706136/This woman drowned over 600 pets that were turned over to her as a rescue person. She didn't like the adoption rules and decided it was better for her to drown them than have them possibly end up on the street or in bad homes. Some of the comments are heartbreaking. They're from people that turned their family pets over to her. Tribe sent springtime flowers! blogging's scary
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qwertypie 9776 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-25-07, 11:06 AM (EST)
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25. "A new Twist" |
Sorry, I couldn't find any links yet From the Ottawa Citizen Eating poisoned dog food sickens pet lover Ottawa woman was trying to convince terrier to try some different chow ....Elaine Larabie said Saturday she ate some dog food last week in an effort to convince her terrier MIssy, to do the same. Soon afterwards, both Larabie and Missy found themselves in hospital -- Larabie at an after hours emergency room, and Missy at Ottawa's Alta Vista Animal Hospital....... .....For three days, she suffered a range of "confusing" and "embarrassing" symptoms, including loss of appetite, vomiting and foaming of the mouth.....Sounds like the dog's initial instincts were right. Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004
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miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-26-07, 03:43 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Cat and Dogfood Recall - Menu Brand" |
I'm very lucky to have found the most awesome vet in all of Washington. He told me about a few patients he had that weren't getting better with treatment and they didnt' know why. Then they learned about this pet food recall. He was so upset and angry about the news.How horrible. I don't have kids but I have two spoiled rotten cats and they feel like kids to me. If something like this had taken them...I'd be so far beyond angry that the light from angry would take 5,000 years just to reach me.
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weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-27-07, 07:48 AM (EST)
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28. "Dry Food possibility" |
Glow Pop had a link to a blog about the whole debacle and there's a part where people are starting to register complaints about DRY food from IAMS and NUTRO. Well, a few weeks ago our 8 year old calico started vomiting and had diarrhea and goopy eye discharge. We thought it was her constipation returning. Vet said it wasn't that. She was showing symptoms of kidney problems, but we did a full lab work up and everything was a-ok. He was baffled. Well, after reading that site yesterday, we took her off the dry Nutro and we'll see if that makes a difference. Scarcy stuff.
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weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-27-07, 09:40 AM (EST)
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30. "Safe" |
From Purina's website (I was curious, too, as Friskies canned is something we give the cats every few days to help with Ali's constipation issue): http://www.purina.com/company/press/2007/MightyDog.aspx
"Why are 5.3-ounce Mighty Dog pouch products the only Purina product being withdrawn? Menu Foods initiated a recall of the dog and cat food manufactured in its "cuts and gravy" format between December 3, 2006 and March 6, 2007. The 5.3-ounce Mighty Dog pouch products are the only cuts & gravy product manufactured for Purina at Menu Foods, and as a precautionary measure, we have decided to voluntarily withdraw this product. No other Purina products -- including Mighty Dog canned products, Purina dog products and Purina cat products -- are affected by Menu's recall. Why does Nestlé Purina use Menu Foods? Nestlé Purina PetCare does not have the capacity to produce wet dog pouch packaging for dog food at this time."
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weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-27-07, 11:26 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Safe" |
It's the main ingredients of by-products that is the concern. More premium brands put the by-products in lesser amounts than the cheaper brands.Wet cat food is actually quite good for cats. You may need to provide a little extra dental care, but most cat experts (in my experience and reading) will say that feeding canned is an ok, and sometimes even better alternative than dry. Depends on your ability to routinely feed them and your ability to provide dental care.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-31-07, 06:35 AM (EST)
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33. "Dry Food Recall added" |
http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/1254243/Hill's Pet Nutrition became the first company to recall any dry pet food, saying its Prescription Diet m/d Feline dry cat food was made using wheat gluten purchased from a U.S. supplier of the vegetable protein source. That same unnamed company also supplied the imported Chinese wheat gluten to Menu Foods, which earlier this month recalled 60 million containers of the wet dog and cat food it makes for sale under nearly 100 brands.
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pinksparkleguitar 1222 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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03-31-07, 11:27 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Dry Food Recall added" |
That's it. Tonight when I get home from work, I'm going and buying something organic for my kitties. Flower arrangement by Sharnina!
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mysticwolf 10692 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-31-07, 07:29 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Dry Food Recall added" |
Even some organics include wheat gluten. Until we really know what's going on? Read the labels.I don't know what to do. I go through a LOT of cat and dog food. When, in the past, I've had to for someone's health, I've bought food costing $5/lb., which, of course, everyone wants to eat. I really can't afford to do that right now. Guess I'll keep feeding Purina dry and praying. They get sick? We'll go further into debt to the vet. No questions asked. If they get sick we'll do everything we can to treat them. And, with our lot? I don't want to think about the potential cost. I still owe them almost $400 from Abandon's emergency surgery 6 weeks ago. Tribe sent springtime flowers! blogging's scary The praying? I'll be doing a lot of that in the next week or so. I've been able to avoid replenishing supplies, but I'm getting near the point of having to buy more of each. I have some stockpiled wet, from quite awhile ago when someone, of each species, needed it. Suppose that could keep us going for a bit longer if necessary. But, I hope they figure it out soon.
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mysticwolf 10692 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-31-07, 10:10 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Dry Food Recall added" |
Thanks for the link. Hadn't seen this one. But, it doesn't surprise me. I can give aspirin to my dogs when they're hurting, but it will kill my cats. (I had to explain that to someone just the other day, as a matter of fact. When they wanted to give an aspirin to their cat. Not good!!!)It's one of the reasons I don't have any Teflon or other non-stick pans in the house. Using them at baking temps is okay, because the temps don't get high enough, but at frying temps they can kill my birds if I forget and let them get too hot/dry. I *really* feel for the woman in town that had a cat that was already older & unwell. She hand fed, kinda force-fed, the food. Her cat died after the kidneys failed. They say they'll "be responsible", but in most areas pets are considered "property". Which means their only legal responsibility is to pay the amount of money that would replace the animal. And, the onus would be on the pet owner to prove that the food was at issue. Hard to do if the animal was older, unless the company is almost unbelievably honorable and doesn't require it. Not impossible, but if they go there and don't dispute? Once they figure it out and take the necessary measures? I'll buy their food. Having worked at a (human) food company, after going through a recall that was somewhat similar ( no one died in ours)? It won't happen again on their watch. My question? How is the value going to be established. Forget the fact that it was a family member. Legally, he/she was property. If it was not a purebred? Some "designer" pets (Cockapoos, etc.) are technically mutts. Forget cats. Unless they were indisputably purebred... And, who cares anyhow? They were family members and you were responsible for feeding them. Tribe sent springtime flowers! blogging's scary
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-01-07, 06:02 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: Dry Food Recall added" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-01-07 AT 06:04 AM (EST)If the company is smart and wants good PR they will pay enough that would cover anyone's vet bills (that's an actual damage) and a fairly decent amount for the loss of the pet. Even if the property value of the pet was zero I think paying everyone some decent amount for the loss would go a long way to creating good will. Those that sue may not be able to ask for that amount, but if it were me running the company I would say submit your vet bills, document any days you didn't work and didn't get paid for, etc.. After paying all that I would then add on top of it a standard amount like say 10K or 25K to cover any conceivable replacement cost and for the time and pain caused. A) If it is a better settlement than people might get in court. While you might get putative damages you might not in a trial. So that may mean fewer people suing and less time in the press as the bad guy. B) It makes you appear caring and sorry even if you don't give a flying fig. Now if they can prove the rumors I've heard flying around that the company knew for months that the food was contaminated and decided to just wait until pets died because lawsuits after would be cheaper than a recall ahead of time, then they need to be sued for really huge amounts of putative damages. I know people think all business people are evil, but I can't believe they would be so stupid as to just off a bunch of loved pets and risk all the future profits to make a quarterly report look just a tad better. FWIW those they knew and decided to wait for really bad things they will get sued for to happen rumor seems to be popular after every one of these sorts of incidents. ETF: a couple of ideas that started but didn't actually finish.
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foonermints 14531 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-01-07, 09:52 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Purina addes Alpo" |
"Nestle Purina PetCare Co. said it was recalling all sizes and varieties of its Alpo Prime Cuts in Gravy wet dog food with specific date codes. Purina said some contained a contaminated wheat gluten from China." I'm still not going to trust Purina's Friskies for a while. *stares back at crabby cat*
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-05-07, 06:10 PM (EST)
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40. "Dog Biscuits added to recall" |
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/05/pet.deaths/index.html?eref=rss_topstories(CNN) -- The Food and Drug Administration announced on Thursday it has identified additional contaminated pet food products -- dog biscuits made by Sunshine Mills of Red Bay, Alabama. The dog biscuits are contaminated with potentially toxic wheat gluten, said Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine. He said more details on which products are affected would be available later Thursday. Sunshine Mills did not immediately return calls from CNN seeking comment. The FDA also said Menu Foods is expanding its recall of a wide variety of products by widening the range of manufacturing dates in the recall. The company said it will announce the new recall dates later Thursday. Menu Foods recalled 60 million cans of wet pet food on March 16 after the chemical melamine, which can be toxic in high doses, showed up in federal testing of some of its cat and dog food varieties. (Details on recall) Since then, Nestlé Purina PetCare Company, Del Monte Pet Products and Hill's Pet Nutrition have also recalled some products.
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mysticwolf 10692 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-05-07, 07:02 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Dog Biscuits added to recall" |
We had to break down and replenish our cat & dog food supply yesterday. Thankfully, neither of the Purina dry products I use have any wheat, wheat gluten, or any other wheat byproduct in them. So, I *think* we're safe on that front.But, here in NW OH there's been an outbreak of an extremely virulent, and contagious, virus that affects cats and is almost always fatal once they start showing symptoms. The new vaccine costs $25 a pop. And, they don't even need to be outdoor cats to catch it. (Ours aren't.) It can be brought in on our clothes or shoes, among other things. *sigh* Tribe sent springtime flowers! blogging's scary
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-19-07, 06:59 AM (EST)
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43. " FDA expands pet food recall" |
-- The nationwide pet food recall was expanded Wednesday to include products containing rice protein laced with melamine, a toxic agent, the Food and Drug Administration said.Before this latest announcement, the FDA attributed pet illness and deaths to recalled pet food with wheat gluten found to contain melamine, a component of fertilizers and plastic utensils. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/18/pet.food/index.html Thanks to Scarlett O Hara for the memorial sig pic.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-25-07, 07:39 AM (EST)
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44. "Hogs in NC Under Quarantine" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-26-07 AT 05:36 AM (EST)Now, the chemical has been detected in hogs across the nation. Hogs are given salvaged livestock feed and the FDA has determined some of the recalled pet food was sent to hog farms in North Carolina, South Carolina, California, New York, Utah and possibly Ohio. All the hogs that tested positive for melamine in North Carolina and California have been quarantined. Right now, FDA officials said anything produced from the affected farms should not be eaten. "At this point, I don't have a definitive answer other than to say that the issue is being addressed," Stephen Sundlof, the FDA's chief veterinarian, told reporters when asked if any of the hogs had entered the human food supply. A poultry farm also may be involved, he added. Though investigators say there is no evidence of contamination at this time, and they are not sure if any pork entered the human food supply. There are also new questions involving several other human products. The FDA is testing a wider variety of human proteins including wheat gluten, corn gluten, corn meal, soy protein, rice bran and rice protein. Those items are often found in foods such as energy shakes, baby formula and pizza dough. YIKES!! ETF: New Link http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/1289734/
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-26-07, 02:59 AM (EST)
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45. "RE: Hogs in NC Under Quarantine" |
1. Linky no worky2. Has it been suggested yet that this might be intentional?
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-26-07, 05:43 AM (EST)
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46. "RE: Hogs in NC Under Quarantine" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-26-07 AT 05:46 AM (EST)There is some thought it may have been intentionally added, but not for the purpose of death and destruction. The motive seems to be fraud. the "amine" in melamine would have nitrogen in it like an amino acid in a protein would. From the seattle times http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003681015_webfoodqa26.html Q: Why would melamine show up in those ingredients? A: The Food and Drug Administration suspects melamine was used to spike the vegetable proteins to make them appear to have more protein than they actually did. Adding a nitrogen-rich contaminant like melamine would skew the results of tests to make an ingredient register as more protein-rich than it really is — and allow it to sell for more money. Q: Why weren't the ingredients tested for melamine? A: Until the recent and ongoing recalls, regulators did not consider melamine a likely contaminant of food meant for either people or animals. Nor were the vegetable proteins considered at risk for contamination. The FDA is now testing a variety of vegetable proteins, used to make everything from infant formula to energy bars, for the chemical. Getting into the hogs would probably be accidental even if it was a plot to sicken Americans. I'm not sure I'd plan on the small amount of spilled pet food that they add to some hog feed on occasion to be the best way to contaminate the food supply.
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