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03-29-04, 06:18 PM (EST)
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"Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
We rented "Bully" this weekend. By the same guy who did "Kids" and as disturbing (perhaps more so, as was based on true story). Good cast, unflinching depiction of murder and the group impulse, the fodder of every parent of every teenager's nightmare. Not sure I should recommend because definitely not for everyone, but here I am still thinking about it.

What films disturb you? Do you like the occasional upsetting cinematic experience? I still remember walking out of the theater after watching The Deer Hunter with my friend J. - we were sobbing, I think. Still, I would not have missed the film.

Discuss, suggest, tell me what you thought about "Bully," if you saw it (and, if you did, and saw "Kids", did you recognize the "hit man"?).



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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema LozengeofLove 03-29-04 1
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema ExInterper 03-29-04 2
   RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema melly 03-29-04 13
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema Mizz Eve 03-29-04 3
   RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema ginger 03-29-04 6
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema volsfan 03-29-04 4
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema AugustGirl 03-29-04 5
   RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema ginger 03-29-04 7
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema Lost Scottsman 03-29-04 8
   RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema ginger 03-29-04 9
       RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema ExInterper 03-29-04 10
           RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema Mizz Eve 03-29-04 14
       RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema diamond 03-29-04 12
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema deerhunter 03-29-04 11
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema Mizz Eve 03-29-04 15
   RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema Silvergirl1 03-30-04 19
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema DebCapsFan 03-29-04 16
   OMH Mon Cherie 03-29-04 17
 RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema Chrissy gal 03-30-04 18

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03-29-04, 06:22 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
Is this the story about the group of kids in Florida?
I haven't seen the movie, but read the book when I was fifteen. It scared the sh!t out of me.
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03-29-04, 06:22 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
First time I ever saw American History X, I had a hard time sleeping. Between the curb scene, the prison scene and the store scene...brrr.

Arlington Road gave me chills first time I saw it too.


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03-29-04, 07:33 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
American History X still gives me chills if I think about it...but what a GREAT (and disturbing) movie.
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03-29-04, 06:23 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
I saw Bully a few years ago. It's based on a sensationalized pulp paperback of the same name. I felt that the film was disturbing in the sense that it was extremely graphic. As I said, I haven't seen the film for sometime, but I remember not being impressed from a filmmaking standpoint.

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03-29-04, 06:34 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
Yes, it's the Florida murder movie.

I liked the way murder was messy and bumbling, not smooth and hip and stylized. Much as I love me some Sopranos, you do kind of get the impression that it's groovy to wack people.

I liked the way we didn't see the parents as the ultimate cause (of course, I'm a parent, so I'm biased there).
I liked the way the gang immediately fell apart arguing over whose blows actually killed the bully, and how they couldn't resist telling people, leading to their capture.

I also liked the question raised about evil - if you kill someone evil, are you not just as, if not more, evil? That type of thing.

Anyway, it was not a magnificent film, but I felt it worth viewing. And like I said, I keep thinking about it.


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03-29-04, 06:31 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
I am not one to get distrubed about much...however, there have been a couple of movies that just make me say...now that is f'ed up!

I must say that I did have a couple of dreams about the curb scene in American History X! That still makes me cringe just to think about!

Also, last week, I went to see Dreamers. Have any of you seen it? I walked out of the theatre thinking WTF was that! Very strange movie!


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03-29-04, 06:33 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
I was so disturbed by the trailers for Gigli that I can't even bring myself to go into the video store to rent it, much less watch it.


I imagine those who did pay money to watch it walked out of the theater sobbing too.

Bennifer ..... *shudder*

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7. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"

Well, there's deeply disturbing, and then there's Just Plain Nauseating.


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03-29-04, 06:37 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
I haven't seen the flick you are referring to. The DW and I have an extensive movie collection and tend to be content with those.

We do have copies of Seven and 8MM both of which are pretty disturbing content. If I had seen them in the theater rether than just buying them I don't think I would have spent the money. However with the sky rocketing price of theater these days it was cheaper to just by the video.

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03-29-04, 06:43 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
Now, Se7en I loved. Disturbing and grotesque, but terrific nonetheless (although now every other urban suspense film has to begin with black and white, choppily edited, Nine Inch Nails-influenced credits).

8MM, on the other hand, seemed a gratuitous nasty waste of time to me. Even BF hated it, and he loves nasty gratuitous things (like me).

Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. Hell, yes, that was disturbing. But I thought the main guy's performance was astounding and the film was okay.

On the other hand, Dog Bites Man. I admit I laughed at one little bit, and the film was somehow intended to be darkly comedic, but I found the "disturbing" factor outweighed everything else. Won't be watching that one again soon.

Natural Born Killers. Everyone loved this one. I didn't mind the violence (although the Rodney Dangerfield scenes bothered me because I really do like Rodney), and the cast was good, but I thought the film got lost in Oliver's love of his own editing gimmicks.



How bout Psycho? Can you imagine going to that when it came out, before everyone knew about the shower scene, and witnessing the heroine being slashed to death, nekkid, in the first third of the movie? I'll bet that was deeply, powerfully disturbing.

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03-29-04, 06:45 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
LOVE Psycho. But then, I'm a Hitchcock fanatic, too.

Ever seen Requiem for a Dream? Now that was a messed up movie. Amazing, though.


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03-29-04, 08:17 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
Requiem for a Dream is a fantastic film. Extremely depressing. I actually slow-mo'd one of the last scenes because I couldn't believe that I was seeing what I was seeing (party scene).


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03-29-04, 07:20 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
Here's something disturbing - on my first date with my college boyfriend, we saw Natural Born Killers (despite the title, I swear we didn't really know what it was about). Good thing for him (at the time, anyway), I'm not a sappy romantic.


And yeah, that curb scene in American History X still gives me phantom jaw pains.

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03-29-04, 07:07 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
" I still remember walking out of the theater after watching The Deer Hunter with my friend J.- we were sobbing, I think."

What did I do to make you CRY? I'm SORRY! If I knew it was you, I wouldn't have done what I did!


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03-29-04, 08:20 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
I watch a lot of films. Usually 3 - 6 per week. Netflix is my good friend I used to post my reviews on another board, but it didn't seem that anyone was interested, probably 'cuz it was a site dedicated to Italian tourism and I was posting about a American films (go figure).

Anyway, I love to share film info. Would it be okay to post film my film reviews here?

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03-30-04, 03:17 AM (EST)
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Miss Eve, I, for one, would love to read your film reviews.

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03-29-04, 08:42 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
A couple of friends and I rented Pi one night. The dude is a mathematical genius who can't quite figure out a formula and it drives him crazy. He has these visions that keep getting more bizarre, so he gives himself a lobotomy. With a drill. That movie is seriously f'ed up.


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I saw "Pi" under less than sober circumstances, so it was doubly mind-boggling to me. Gah.

"Kids" and "Bully" disturbed me greatly but were good movies, as well as "American History X" and "Schindler's List".

I know we're talking movies, but HBO's "Oz" was one of my favorite shows, as graphic as it was.

ETA more on Bully and Kids: Yep, recognized the hitman. Bully hit close to home, literally, as the incident it was based on happened literally down the street from my aunt's house in S. FL., I recognized alot of places I had been to. The story itself is horrifying to begin with. I think the movies are so brutal because they are so realistic (the rape scene comes to mind). It's not stuff you're used to seeing in a movie. I felt the same way about Kids.


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03-30-04, 02:02 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Deeply Disturbing Cinema"
The most disturbing movie I ever saw was "Looking for Mr. Goodbar". I was in my early twenties and loved to go out to night clubs. After seeing that movie, I changed the way I looked at the people I met in the clubs. I think it should be mandatory viewing for young women.

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