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"This is odd to me..."
bondt007 3413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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11-02-05, 02:11 PM (EST)
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"This is odd to me..." |
http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20051101-104932-4054r.htm"State Sen. Lisa A. Gladden, a black Baltimore Democrat, said she does not expect her party to pull any punches, including racial jabs at Mr. Steele, in the race to replace retiring Democratic U.S. Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes." "Such attacks against the first black man to win a statewide election in Maryland include pelting him with Oreo cookies during a campaign appearance, calling him an "Uncle Tom" and depicting him as a black-faced minstrel on a liberal Web log." I guess if a black man has a different POV, well, you just can't. It's not allowed. But why am I preached to about tolerance? I'm not following the logic.
>Issued by "Q" and RollDdice Charter Member, April 2001; Club Anti-DAW
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-05, 02:20 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: This is odd to me..." |
LAST EDITED ON 11-02-05 AT 02:28 PM (EST)I'll make you a deal. I won't paint all conservative/Republicans with the same brush if you don't paint all liberal/Democrats with the same brush. I'd like to think that the rational the left are able to decry those instances in the same manner that rational folks on the right objected to calls for the assassination of a South American head of state. Here's another part of the article that might have merited a mention: A spokesman for the Maryland Democratic Party denounced the depiction as being "extremely offensive" and having "no place in politics or in any other aspect of public discourse," The Washington Post reported. Democrats have denied any connection to the News Blog. Sigs by Syren and Seana. Bouncie by IceCat. One and Only WeinerGuy. journal "We must scrupulously guard the civil rights and civil liberties of all our citizens, whatever their background. We must remember that any oppression, any injustice, any hatred, is a wedge designed to attack our civilization." --- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 9 January 1940
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PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-05, 02:38 PM (EST)
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My favorite part of the article:
In 2001, Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. called Mr. Steele an "Uncle Tom," when Mr. Steele headed the state Republican Party. Mr. Miller, Prince George's County Democrat, later apologized for the remark. "That's not racial. If they call him the "N' word, that's racial," Mrs. Marriott said. "Just because he's black, everything bad you say about him isn't racial."
Shameful and ironic to see this on the day that Rosa Parks was buried. I already know you don't, but I REALLY want to believe you look like the Pringles guy. J Slice
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geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-05, 03:11 PM (EST)
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While I finder it even odder that any African American would support the Republican party as it is currently constituted, I will say that there are a-holes on both sides of the fence. I'm such a slut for the blues. I just happen think that the vast majority of them don't belong to my party.
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bondt007 3413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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11-02-05, 04:21 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: This is odd to me..." |
Really? you find it odder that someone could have a different POV than you vs. people spewing hatred toward that person?And - yes, a holes all around... I argee - >Issued by "Q" and RollDdice Charter Member, April 2001; Club Anti-DAW
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-05, 04:30 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: This is odd to me..." |
I'll give you another one since you're so interested.I don't understand gay Republicans. I went to a Log Cabin Republicans meeting. Wanna know who I saw in attendance? A bunch of affluent white guys who don't have much to worry about in terms of discrimination because of their finances, sex, and race so they were more interested in the bottom line of their own checkbooks rather than any sort of policy that actually gave their less affluent, non-white, and/or female peers the rights that would raise them above being second-class citizens. Can I describe them as the Uncle Toms of the gay community? Does that make me an a-hole too? Sigs by Syren and Seana. Bouncie by IceCat. One and Only WeinerGuy. journal "We must scrupulously guard the civil rights and civil liberties of all our citizens, whatever their background. We must remember that any oppression, any injustice, any hatred, is a wedge designed to attack our civilization." --- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 9 January 1940
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Fishercat 4168 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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11-02-05, 03:29 PM (EST)
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OK, enlighten me. I read UTC last year for history, and is the comment really an insult? I know it is meant that way and in the context it is, but why is calling someone Uncle Tom meant that way? From what I saw, Tom was a leader-type character who showed incredible character and ability for overcoming adversity and making decisions he felt to be correct in the face of white oppression, and eventually became a martyr of sorts for his beliefs and character.Did I just completely misinterpret the character?
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Fishercat 4168 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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11-02-05, 03:33 PM (EST)
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Okay, thanks. I honestly did not take him that way, although I certainly see how.
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PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-05, 03:47 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: This is odd to me..." |
I missed the part where you explained how/why that 'literary allusion' is an acceptable way to refer to a black Republican. I already know you don't, but I REALLY want to believe you look like the Pringles guy. J Slice
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-05, 04:05 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: This is odd to me..." |
Surely you can see the difference between using the term "Uncle Tom" to refer to somebody who is perceived to put the interests of white Americans, who are generally "better off" (financially, less discrimination in work/legal system, etc) while simultaneously being perceived to do this at the expense of citizens from his own racial/ethnic background --- anchoring the description in a legitimate critique of that person's politics (whether one agrees with those politics or not, or that description of those politics) --- between that and the use of Sambo (no critical or intellectual underpinnings there; just pure unadulterated racism). The former expresses an idea; the latter relies on nothing but stereotyped animosity. Sigs by Syren and Seana. Bouncie by IceCat. One and Only WeinerGuy. journal "We must scrupulously guard the civil rights and civil liberties of all our citizens, whatever their background. We must remember that any oppression, any injustice, any hatred, is a wedge designed to attack our civilization." --- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 9 January 1940
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geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-05, 04:06 PM (EST)
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You mean besides the party's aversion to affirmative action, trumpeting of law and order (which many take as code for cracking down on urban poor whether they've committed a crime or not. Ever heard of a DWB?), demonization of welfare, tax cuts for the rich, the smell that arose from voting irregularities in predominantly black neighborhoods in Florida and Ohio, the continued savaging of Bill Clinton who they feel an affinity for, and, last but not least, the images of the 9th Ward, the Superdome, and the Convention Center of New Orleans in which 99.9% of the victims who suffered for days on end had were African American? I'm such a slut for the blues.
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bondt007 3413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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11-02-05, 04:31 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: This is odd to me..." |
Yes - context does count for something, to me. Here's my point though. There are months dedicated to blacks, and museums (here in LA) dedicated to tolerance. And I go to training so that I can tolerate others and their views. Why? Why is it so difficult, or impossible for a black person to accept another black person if they are conservative? Why do they get to lable them as "traitor", call them names, and bring race into it? BTW, HD - I will take you up on your deal... >Issued by "Q" and RollDdice Charter Member, April 2001; Club Anti-DAW
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bondt007 3413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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11-02-05, 04:45 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: This is odd to me..." |
So - where's the beer??? >Issued by "Q" and RollDdice Charter Member, April 2001; Club Anti-DAW I knew I was missing something here!!
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geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-05, 04:28 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: This is odd to me..." |
You'll notice above that I called her an a-hole. And meant it.You asked why African Americans would criticize a fellow African American for being a Republican. I just gave sound reasons they would. I'm such a slut for the blues.
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