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KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 09:58 AM (EST) "Of black helicopters and the TLC." Ok, many of you are much more google-savy than myself so I'm looking for some help here. I've got an inlaw who never met a conspiracy he didn't like. I get THIS and THIS link, along with several more like it, "proving" a huge conspiracy about 9/11 and the Pentagon. I never realized this whole movement existed! My problem is that I can't find a good spot that rebutts the hoax. Has anyone ever seen these wild theories before?   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... landruajm 09-08-04 1    RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... KeithFan 09-08-04 6    RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... Draco Malfoy 09-09-04 13  RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... FesterFan1 09-08-04 2    RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... KeithFan 09-08-04 7        RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... Devious Weasel 09-08-04 8            RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... KeithFan 09-09-04 12  Snopes weltek 09-08-04 3  RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... PagongRatEater 09-08-04 4  more links PagongRatEater 09-08-04 5    RE: more links KeithFan 09-08-04 9    RE: more links dabo 09-09-04 11        RE: more links PagongRatEater 09-09-04 15            RE: more links Estee 09-09-04 16  RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... mrc 09-08-04 10    RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... mrc 09-10-04 17        RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... KeithFan 09-10-04 18  RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... Draco Malfoy 09-09-04 14  RE: Of black helicopters and the TL... seahorse 09-10-04 19

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landruajm 6040 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 10:10 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." I can tell you that my neighbor, an Arlington County, Virginia police officer cited as one of "DC's 9/11 Heroes" for his efforts in the 20 hours after the attack (which occurred as he was heading home after his regular overnight shift and an early-morning court appearance), was driving by the Pentagon when the attack occurred; he saw a commercial airliner fly into the building. On the other hand, my uncle was a cameraman and didn't get me a date with Jenna Morasca, so I'm probably not all that reliable a source.   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 01:07 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." Thank you, now I only have 2 degrees of separation, hope I can convince him. He is, however, about as stuborn as I am so...   Top

Draco Malfoy 10525 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-09-04, 08:59 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." Hey nephew!   Top

FesterFan1 5947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 10:19 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." I can attest to the strength of the windows. A coworker's husband was a contractor on that site, as was my BIL. The windows they had just installed on that wedge of the Pentagon were the strongest in the world--built for military aggression. It's not surprising to me that they didn't shatter. Fester And what, I ask, happened to the actual commerical plane in this "theory"? Are the passengers at Area 51 with the aliens?   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 01:14 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." His whole theory is that the hijacked plane was shot down over the ocean, which goes against the grain of the "I'm-a-believer-in-everything-Michael-Moore-and-Bush-blew-9/11" that he has..it has to be quite a thin tightrope. Oh, here is the punchline I forgot...he is a journalism major   Top

Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 02:06 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." So they shot it down and then crashed something into the Pentagon to make it look like a plane crash to cover up the fact that they shot it down? Whoo Boy. That's, that's, that's some amazingly convoluted thinking.   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-09-04, 08:53 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." Yes, but to him everything evil is possible while ##### Cheney is VP.   Top

weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 10:19 AM (EST) 3. "Snopes" http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm Handcrafted by RollDdice   Top

PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 10:20 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." I've never seen the one on the so-called 'missle' that hit the Pentagon - what a bunch of carp. You know that Ted Olsen's wife (the attny who saved Bush's bacon in the Florida recount) was on the Pentagon flight and I personally have heard her final phone call to her right before the impact. If any of this is true I find it hard to believe that the government killed people to intentionally blow up the Pentagon. Not to mention that there is no reason at all given as to WHY anyone would actually intentionally do that. Strange co-incidence to set it up so it would happen within minutes of the WTC attacks, Here is a website that disputes these specific charges in more detail: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html   Top

PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 10:27 AM (EST) 5. "more links" Here is some more deconstruction of this ridiculousness. (first one that leaps out are the knocked down light poles on the highway). http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/index.php http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. — Voltaire, 1767   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 06:17 PM (EST) 9. "RE: more links" Thanks PRE! Kind of slow responding today; did battle with a mighty parasite- caught even with Norton Firewall and AntiVirus.   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-09-04, 01:00 AM (EST) 11. "RE: more links" http://station51.lwok.com/757.htm Make: Boeing Model: 757 Fuel capacity: 75,500#-Jet A Fuel Location(s) of Fuel Tanks: Wing Tanks-main tanks You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what happened to the wings.   Top

PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-09-04, 09:41 AM (EST) 15. "RE: more links" Yep, you don't have to be Scooby Do to figure out this mystery. On the other hand it sure does illustrate the power of a guy with an agenda armed with half-truths to put together a really convincing argument for total BS (*cough* Michael Moore *cough*).   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-09-04, 10:32 AM (EST) 16. "RE: more links" Yep, you don't have to be Scooby Do to figure out this mystery. Is a die-hard Republican supporter allowed to quote Ant? More to the point, should anybody be?   Top

mrc 10113 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-08-04, 07:36 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." Keith, It is difficult to argue with believers in conspiracy theories. Essentially, you cannot disprove a conspiracy theory b/c the evidence that you can muster to dispute them is part of the conspiracy and the lack of evidence to prove them is part of the cover-up. (See the reasoning?) Bob (Robert) Goldberg wrote a book on post-WWII conspiracies that is very enlightening. He looks at UFOs, JFK, the Anti-Christ, etc. There are some other good books whose titles escape me at the moment. I'll try to post them tomorrow when I get to the office--they are on my shelves there. Courtesy of Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Top

mrc 10113 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-10-04, 08:29 AM (EST) 17. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." Here are the books: Paul Coughlin, Secrets, Plots, & Hidden Agendas: What You Don't Know About Conspiracy Theories Mark Fenster, Conspiracy Theories: Secrecy and Power in American Culture Robert Goldberg, Enemies Within: The Culture of Conspiracy in Modern America Daniel Pipes, Conspiracy: How the Paranoid Style Flourishes and Where It Comes From Goldberg also did a piece on conspiracy theories and 9/11, but I can't locate it at the moment. Courtesy of Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-10-04, 08:38 AM (EST) 18. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." Thanks for the titles! Guess I'll be going to Barnes and Noble tonight!   Top

Draco Malfoy 10525 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-09-04, 09:01 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." Here's another one for you... http://www.letsroll911.org/   Top

seahorse 14337 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-10-04, 08:56 AM (EST) 19. "RE: Of black helicopters and the TLC." As the aniversary of 9/11 gets here, I am sure that this crazy theory will be going around again. It seems people would have better things to waste their time on. ©Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Top

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