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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-03-06, 11:05 AM (EST) "24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM " LAST EDITED ON 04-03-06 AT 11:06 AM (EST) OK, right off the bat, we're told in the previous thread that, at the end of this episode, we get to see who is behind Christopher Henderson's activities and murders. So we'll open this thread early in case anyone wants to discuss their theories. In other news, Fox has released the press releases with the general descriptions of episodes 5.16, 5.17 and 5.18. Of particular note is that Audrey's dad is coming back in two weeks after this episode. Here they are: 5.16 SCANDALOUS AND SHOCKING LINKS TO TERRORISTS UNCOVERED ON "24" MONDAY, APRIL 3, ON FOX Jack reinforces the importance of stopping terrorist conspirator Christopher Henderson while the Vice President and the administration attempt to realign CTU. An empowered Audrey is forced to make a defining decision while Wayne Palmer and Agent Pierce come together on an all-new episode of 24, "Day 5: 10:00 PM-11:00 PM," airing Monday, April 3 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (TWF-516) (TV-14 V) Cast: Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer, Kim Raver as Audrey Raines, Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian, Roger Cross as Curtis Manning, James Morrison as Bill Buchanan, Gregory Itzin as President Logan, Jean Smart as First Lady Martha Logan. Guest Cast: Jayne Atkinson as Karen Hayes, Stephen Spinella as Miles Papazian, Peter Weller as Christopher Henderson, Ray Wise as Vice President Hal Gardner, Jude Ciccolella as Mike Novick, Stana Katic as Collette Stenger, Julian Sands as Vladimir Bierko, Glenn Morshower as Agent Aaron Pierce, Kate Mara as Shari Rothenberg, DB Woodsie as Wayne Palmer and Martin A. Papazian as Rick Burke. ************************** 5.17 UNEXPECTED TWIST TURNS PRIORITIES AROUND ON "24" MONDAY, APRIL 10, ON FOX New discoveries regarding the day's horrific events keep agent Jack Bauer away from CTU, whose agenda Homeland Security is ordered to reprioritize. Chloe and Audrey team together to assist with field operations and the investigation takes a unexpected turn on an all-new episode of 24, "Day 5: 11:00 PM-12:00 AM" Monday, April 10 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (TWF-517) (TV-14 V) Cast: Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer, Kim Raver as Audrey Raines, Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian, Roger Cross as Curtis Manning, James Morrison as Bill Buchanan, Gregory Itzin as President Logan, Jean Smart as First Lady Martha Logan. Guest Cast: Jayne Atkinson as Karen Hayes, Stephen Spinella as Miles Papazian, Peter Weller as Christopher Henderson, Ray Wise as Vice President Hal Gardner, Jude Ciccolella as Mike Novick, Stana Katic as Collette Stenger, Julian Sands as Vladimir Bierko, Glenn Morshower as Agent Aaron Pierce, Kate Mara as Shari Rothenberg, DB Woodsie as Wayne Palmer and Martin A. Papazian as Rick Burke. ************************ 5.18 JACK AND AUDREY REUNITE WITH THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE ON "24" MONDAY, APRIL 17, ON FOX Although President Logan claims the country is no longer under attack, marital law is still enforced and CTU remains under intense pressure to find the remaining fugitives. Meanwhile, Jack, Audrey and Secretary of Defense James Heller reunite for a pivotal meeting on the all-new "Day 5: 12:00 AM-1:00 AM" episode of 24 airing Monday, April 17 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (TWF-518) (TV-14 V) Cast: Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer, Kim Raver as Audrey Raines, Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian, James Morrison as Bill Buchanan, Gregory Itzin as President Logan, Jean Smart as First Lady Martha Logan. Guest Cast: William Devane as James Heller, Jayne Atkinson as Karen Hayes, Stephen Spinella as Miles Papazian, Peter Weller as Christopher Henderson, Ray Wise as Vice President Hal Gardner, Jude Ciccolella as Mike Novick, Glenn Morshower as Agent Aaron Pierce, Kate Mara as Shari Rothenberg, DB Woodsie as Wayne Palmer. ************************** Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM trigirl 04-03-06 1  RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM Breezy 04-03-06 2    ??? AugustGirl 04-03-06 3    RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM sittem 04-03-06 4        RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM Breezy 04-04-06 10  RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM sittem 04-03-06 5    Yes AyaK 04-03-06 6  RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM Fishercat 04-03-06 7  ...and the perp is... AyaK 04-03-06 8    RE: ...and the perp is... CantStandToLook 04-04-06 11        RE: ...and the perp is... Breezy 04-04-06 12        RE: ...and the perp is... petmama 04-04-06 17            RE: ...and the perp is... CantStandToLook 04-05-06 20    RE: ...and the perp is... geg6 04-04-06 13    RE: ...and the perp is... Devious Weasel 04-04-06 14        RE: ...and the perp is... geg6 04-04-06 15    Ack !!! AugustGirl 04-04-06 16        RE: Ack !!! Sagebrush Dan 04-06-06 21  Questions trigirl 04-04-06 9    Yes AyaK 04-04-06 18        RE: Yes Devious Weasel 04-05-06 19

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trigirl 2844 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 04-03-06, 01:18 PM (EST) 1. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM " Yippee....I am so shallow. Wayne Palmer will be in a few more eps. Makes getting over Tony that much easier!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-03-06, 03:31 PM (EST) 2. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM " Hey! Where's Carl Edward's shout out? He's a guest on tonight's episode. Save a horse, ride a cowboy.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-03-06, 03:37 PM (EST) 3. "???" Who? Am I supposed to know Carl Edward? a J Slice original. bounce by Icey. Am I out of the loop already?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sittem 4186 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-03-06, 03:43 PM (EST) 4. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM " The NASCAR driver? 2002 IceCat Originals, Inc. All rights reserved.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-04-06, 07:21 AM (EST) 10. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM " Yup, he played Jim Hill(they even gave him a line). They had a big spiel about it before the race Sunday. Save a horse, ride a cowboy.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sittem 4186 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-03-06, 05:22 PM (EST) 5. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM " Do you believe this reveal tonight and the ensuing events for the rest of the season are going to tie some issues from the first few seasons together? 2002 IceCat Originals, Inc. All rights reserved.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-03-06, 05:55 PM (EST) 6. "Yes" If you mean, will we see "Max" from season 2, no. I don't think "Max" was intended to be a key part. But, as we saw in the last 15 minutes of season 2, Max also took orders. But otherwise, yes. I think that's the intent of this story line, and I'm glad the writers are moving in that direction. Then again, I don't want to give too much away to people who don't want the show spoiled, so I'll return to this later. There was a clip a couple of weeks ago that was supposed to give us a hint of what was going to happen. I saw that clip and noted the one character's unusual response, but I thought it was supposed to convey something very different than what it actually was supposed to convey. So much for my spoiling skills.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Fishercat 4168 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-03-06, 06:55 PM (EST) 7. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.16 - 10-11 PM " Since I read the spoilers, I won't say a thing. I'm just really effing excited.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-03-06, 11:09 PM (EST) 8. "...and the perp is..." ...President Charles Logan. At the end of the episode, after Jack rescues Evelyn and her kidnapped 8-year-old daughter Amy, we see Logan talking to Henderson on the phone. That explains the "unexpected twist" referred to in the Episode 5.17 press release; Jack had thought the VP was the mastermind. Since all of CTU was fired except for Chloe, who was kept around by Audrey, who can Jack trust other than the two of them and Wayne and Aaron? Sorry, but five people aren't enough to bring down the president, even if one of them is Jack Bauer. Then again, we have Martha Mitchell Logan. Would she turn on her husband if she knew her husband was guilty? The real Martha Mitchell did; she told reporters about the involvement of her husband John (Nixon's Attorney General) in the Watergate cover-up. Would Martha Logan do the same thing? You can't just arrest the president, though. Or even the VP. Even when AG Elliot Richardson (Mitchell's successor) has incontrovertable evidence that VP Spiro Agnew had been taking bribes during his entire term of office, he agreed to let Agnew resign rather than prosecute him, as long as Agnew pled guilty to a bribery charge in court. But the charges against Logan (conspiracy to commit mass murder, and premeditated murder) are much, much more serious. So serious, in fact, that they're impossible to take seriously -- but we don't need to take them seriously in 24-land. We just need to go with the flow. So, even if Evelyn has incontrovertable proof of Logan's nefarious activity, and even if Heller agrees to help his daughter and Jack instead of the President, there's a long way to go to get to a resolution -- which wouldn't be reached by 7 AM no matter how good Jack's evidence is. As for the discussion above, I think this will tie back to the moneyed interests discussed in season 1 that initially supported Palmer. Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-04-06, 08:03 AM (EST) 11. "RE: ...and the perp is..." Can I just say that I'm completely dumbfounded? My jaw dropped when I saw Logan though since everything pointed to the VP it only made sense that it would be Logan plus Jack kept mentioning how Henderson wouldn't let his wife die for anyone but someone very very high up in the Administration. What I found interesting was that he had no idea Wayne Palmer was headed to the White House if Henderson was working for him or maybe he was just feigning surprise for the VP. The other and major thing that doesn't make sense to me is why? He is already the most powerful man in America and some would say the world. I can see how it might tie back to last season with the President getting shot down and him taking over but to continue just boggles my mind. What is he trying to get out of all this? I got your back Jack....by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-04-06, 09:32 AM (EST) 12. "RE: ...and the perp is..." I'm with CSTL, I don't get the why. And? Sad to say I had a hard time focusing on last night's episode. It just didn't keep me interested, until the very last scene with Logan. And then I was, "Huh? Why?". Save a horse, ride a cowboy.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

petmama 494 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 04-04-06, 06:29 PM (EST) 17. "RE: ...and the perp is..." It doesn't suprize me in the least that Logan's one of the bad guys. I couldn't stand him from the get-go.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-05-06, 04:52 PM (EST) 20. "RE: ...and the perp is..." I'm with you there but he must be the smartest supervillian of all because he sure did manage to come across most of last season and this one as a half-wit. Just hard to believe he was smart enough to orchestate all of this. Obviously him and cummings must have been in on it together and the posturing about whether to admit Martha into the asylum and all of that must have been fake. It just opens up so many holes into why he acted certain ways at the beginning of the season when he knew he was never in any danger I got your back Jack....by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-04-06, 10:22 AM (EST) 13. "RE: ...and the perp is..." Okay, the sons of beyotches got me again. I never saw that coming and I was completely flabbergasted. So much so that I had a hard time going to sleep just trying to figure out how I missed it and why Logan would be doing this. At about 2am (!!!!), I gave up. The only thing I could conclude was that my new favorite character, Martha Logan, is definitely going to pull a Martha Mitchell. They tried to say MM was crazy, too. And she may well have been, but that didn't help big John. Goddess of the Steeler Nation   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-04-06, 03:10 PM (EST) 14. "RE: ...and the perp is..." Caveat - I'm writing this with the knowledge of the basic spoilers that are out there for the next few episodes. On the other hand, my thoughts about how it could play out are all speculation. If Heller and the VP are actually good guys, and not involved, then there you could solve the problem by removing the president. Permanently. Jack hands Logan a gun and says "You can pull the trigger or I can, but however it happens, you aren't walking out of this room alive." Even better yet, "crazy" Martha Logan could kill him.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-04-06, 03:34 PM (EST) 15. "RE: ...and the perp is..." They're just screwing with people like me who automatically peg any character Ray Wise plays as a sicko like he was on Twin Peaks, aren't they? Bastiges! Goddess of the Steeler Nation   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-04-06, 05:40 PM (EST) 16. "Ack !!!" I have a lot of questions, but right now I want to know how Walt Cummings fit into this? In the first few hours Logan was seemingly shocked that it was Cummings who helped secure the nerve gas. So did Logan conspire with Henderson to get Walt Cummings' help (without Cummings knowing Logan was involved) so that Cummings could take the fall if the plot was uncovered? Is Logan really that good of an actor that he can be bumbling and surprised all the while carrying out this terrible plan? What is this terrible plan? Did Walt Cummings really kill himself or was he murdered? Final question: Would Logan rather face an irate Jack Bauer or his wife? I'm thinking he'd prefer the wrath of Jack over Martha. a J Slice original. bounce by Icey.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Sagebrush Dan 9824 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-06-06, 09:34 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Ack !!!" LAST EDITED ON 04-06-06 AT 09:37 PM (EST) Hiya Augie! Cummings was definitely murdered. I do not know if he knew of the President's involvement, though. Since both Pres and VP are jerks, who is going to replace them. Did the President die in the plane crash last year, or is he "recovering" someplace? CASH Secretary of Hospitality Handcrafted by RollDdice It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. --Jack Twist   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

trigirl 2844 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 04-04-06, 07:16 AM (EST) 9. "Questions" If you mean, will we see "Max" from season 2, no. I don't think "Max" was intended to be a key part. But, as we saw in the last 15 minutes of season 2, Max also took orders. Was Max the guy on the boat that Mandy called after she gave Palmer cooties? I missed the reveal. (Darn 24 parties are getting too big. I'm so busy getting cocktails and appetizers I'm missing the show!!!) What was Logan's demeanor?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-04-06, 06:58 PM (EST) 18. "Yes" LAST EDITED ON 04-04-06 AT 06:59 PM (EST) Yes, Max was the guy on the boat to whom both Peter Kingsley and Mandy reported. But at the end of season 2, we saw Max get called by someone else (Trepkos) who told him that the plan had failed -- Kingsley was dead and the war was called off; Trepkos also told Max that he had warned him not to use Kingsley. That's when Max said that they'd have to go another way and made another call, which turned out to be to Mandy. Logan was shown in extreme close-up in the last shot. He wasn't a happy camper, especially since Bauer had broken up Henderson's plan.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-05-06, 03:05 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Yes" Not to mention, at the very end of the 24 PS2 game, you get to kill Max. Or so I have heard.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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