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"24 - Ep. 5.15 - 9-10 PM "
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03-27-06, 12:43 PM (EST)
 
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"24 - Ep. 5.15 - 9-10 PM " |
Is Audrey evil? Or has she been set up? And what kind of a "distribution center" is Bierko targeting that could kill 200,000 people? I don't think he's going after a Wal-Mart distribution center.  And where is Christopher Henderson? It's a safe bet that we haven't seen the last of him ... or of his wife. You don't add a couple like Peter Weller and JoBeth Williams to the show for glorified cameos. Quick Questions: 1) If Audrey isn't guilty, will she forgive Jack for targeting her? 2) If she is, why would she have provided Jack with the link to a woman who could incriminate her? 3) There has been a rumor floating around for a while that Audrey had a fling with the evil (and now dead) Walt Cummings after Jack's "death." Will we find out whether it's true this week? 4) What ever happened to Audrey's dad, the Secretary of Defense? Could he be involved in this whole scheme? 5) What could Wayne possibly have learned on the day of his brother's death that would be so scary as to make him a target? (Could you imagine even trying to find out anything on the day your brother was blown up?)  Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.
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03-27-06, 11:37 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.15 - 9-10 PM " |
Well looks like we've gotten a couple answers so far.1. Audrey telling Jack that the only thing that kept her going was knowing that he would come for her certainly does seem like forgiveness. Now the question is was it too late? Is Jack a goner? Doubt it. 2. I guess 1 answered 2, that or the fact that Jack has a short temper when he's being played. Loved the he pissed me off and now you've got 3 seconds to spill it before I kill you line. 3. True..stupidest plot twist ever but necessary obviously for this to play out. I just couldn't see someone of Audrey's caliber with an idiot like Cummings. 4. Still waiting to see what's going to happen with that, but the new Vice President still gets or should I say now gets my vote for possibly being the other White House mole. 5. I hate having missed the first two hours of the day. I dont know how Palmer was killed or what was going on around that time but it looks like Wayne is gonna do a Jack on the first ladies attendant. However, I'm not so sure she really knows anything or will simply misinterpret things told to her earlier in the day to implicate the president (wrongfully I would assume). If she really knew something, somehow I would think that she would have worked with Cummings earlier when he was trying to get the information from the first lady instead of having to basically be browbeaten into giving that info to him. This was definitely one of the most charged episodes in an increasingly more tense and suspensful series of episodes. I love how they're building and building and complicating things to where we really dont know who to trust anymore. 
I got your back Jack....by Arkie
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03-28-06, 01:20 AM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 03-28-06 AT 11:35 AM (EST)Yeah, I think we answered the Audrey and Jack questions convincingly. Still no idea why she would sleep with Cummings (who was, after all, married) or what her dad's role in all this is, if any. We've abruptly come to the end of the first plot line, capturing Bierko. Now it's time to find out what's REALLY going on. In episode 15 of season 2, the bomb blows up, killing Mason but no one else at the end ... and revealing the first part of the show (with Second Wave) to be a distraction from the real plot. Here, the nerve gas has been contained thanks to a somewhat less scary explosion. But there is still lots to do --- such as uncover the real plot. Embarrass Logan? Pull off a military coup? Create the West Coast White House Cannabis Farm? Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.
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03-28-06, 08:39 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.15 - 9-10 PM " |
Peter Weller and JoBeth Williams....I had the exact same thoughts. Do you think the casting is part of the plot. Recognizable faces make everyone susupicious?Is William Devane scheduled back? He was mentioned this week which usually means that he will be coming back for a visit. The time line thing is getting a little weak isn't it? At the end of 8-9 pm they were at Van Nuys airport and at the beginning of 9-10pm they are back at CTU with Collette. Unless CTU is underneath the airport I'm not buying. Aaron and Wayne Palmer against the bad guys. Two of my love-list guys taking on the world. It's good for a gal's heart.
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03-28-06, 12:01 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.15 - 9-10 PM " |
LAST EDITED ON 03-28-06 AT 12:22 PM (EST)Great show again last night for me, but watching 24 and PB (I tape and watch them in reverse) is a lot to take. And DW and I had just watched The Constant Gardner right before that. Anyway - doncha just hate on Miles? And, we all knew he was a sleaze and so guilty of sexual harassment with Shari. Of course, until Bill B pats her on the back for a great job and she interprets that as S.H. So, I guess that means by extension that Miles is also innocent. Chloe's reactions to all these things is always priceless. eta - the Veep seems too obvious to be the other mole, though I can make a good case that he and Cummings were working together to create a scenario of instability so martial law and all those "good things" could be implemented so the gov't would wield more power against our "enemies". So, the other possibility is for Aaron's assistant. His initial reaction when Aaron came in was curious and then having the badies lying in wait for Wayne and Aaron seems like a set up.  2002 IceCat Originals, Inc. All rights reserved.
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03-28-06, 06:16 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: 24 - Ep. 5.15 - 9-10 PM " |
>Cummings' plan was to have the terrorists bring the nerve gas
>back to Russia and have it explode on them in
>their training camp. The attack on american soil was
>improvised in retaliation to being duped
>and the Russian president being saved.
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>How could they have planned 6 months ahead of
>time to have Colette steal the schematics for the plant
>and incriminate Audrey when it was NEVER part of their plan? You're correct ... if this is the actual plot line. It's what Bierko has told us. But we now know that it was Christopher Henderson, not Bierko, who set up Colette's theft scheme, since he was the one who told her to drop Audrey's name. Implications:
1) Henderson knew Jack wasn't dead. How?
2) Henderson was stringing Bierko along. How and why? >Mentioning the constant gardener makes me
>want to point out that John Le Carré has complicated
>plot lines but they are BELIEVABLE and have internal cohesion. Oh come on. Le Carré became famous with one of the most infamous shifts in backstory ever. Read Call for the Dead (his first novel), and then read The Spy Who Came in from the Cold (his third novel, but the sequel to the first), and see what happened during Mundt's time in England. THAT'S why the third novel became such a shocker. Knowing what we knew about Mundt, we couldn't understand what was going on. But then we didn't know what we thought we knew, after all -- even though we'd seen the original sequence of events firsthand. Nasty, nasty trick. Plus, The Constant Gardener was a turkey. Le Carré has been out of ideas ever since he had to steal a plot from Graham Greene (Our Man in Havana) in The Tailor of Panama. Which doesn't make last night's episode of 24 good. I don't believe you go from being tortured to being lovey-dovey. Nor do I believe that ANYONE would torture Audrey based on the word of Colette. And Colette was underacted and underwritten. All in all, this looked to be an episode that the writers and producers skimped on, except for the special effects.
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Would you read that if it was a novel?No, I wouldn't read 24 if it were a novel, not this season or any season. 24 is really the successor to the old "cliffhanger" serials, where there's a crisis at the end of each episode. It's given up any semblance of reality. But it's exciting TV. By contrast, le Carré has worked poorly in screen adaptations, even in the BBC productions of Tinker, Tailor and Smiley's People, in part because Alec Guinness is a great actor but doesn't resemble George Smiley in the least, and in part because it's not possible to capture something like the brilliant shift in the mission in The Honourable Schoolboy on film -- the rush of action obfuscates the contemplation that you need to see what Smiley had managed to do through Westerby. Even in the slower pace of a miniseries, the idea that Smiley eventually figures out in Tinker, Tailor -- that one of Percy's foursome had to be posing as a double agent and that Smiley could use that to trap the REAL double agent -- is hard to develop without making it seem like a flash from the heavens. And that's why you can't do le Carré-style stories in 24. Your viewing audience would rival A&E. To digress, I like Call for the Dead. I like the picture of the Circus when "the Advisor" was running things. The story there sets up everything that comes later, from Smiley's WWII tradecraft to Peter Guillam's loyalty to him (which is certainly put to the test in Tinker, Tailor). Both characters changed little over the years. I particularly like the fact that the ending of Call for the Dead is every bit as downbeat as the endings of the later stories; right from the start, le Carré never went for the happy ending. Did you know that Call for the Dead was optioned for a movie in the U.S. BEFORE The Spy Who Came in from the Cold was issued? -- but it wasn't shot until AFTER Spy, and the character names had to be changed because the studio that did Spy had purchased the rights to the character names in that book as well as the story and insisted on a royalty from the first studio for their use. (The movie is called The Deadly Affair. It was directed by the great Sidney Lumet, with a screenplay by Paul Dehn (who also wrote the screenplay for Spy, as well as for Goldfinger). James Mason plays "Charles Dobbs", whose wife is still named Ann, and Peter Guillam and Mundt disappear completely.) But I'd agree with your characterization of the second le Carré novel, A Murder of Quality, which is a standard mystery revolving around class roles. No one would have ever read it if not for what came later. Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.
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