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01-18-07, 12:19 PM (EST)
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"Bauer Family Values"
Yep, that's the subject of Episode 5 ... where we learn ...

SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT Don't open if you don't want to read it!

... that Jack has surviving family other than Kim ... family with which he has a history ... family that may even have tried to kill him in a past season.

These Bauers make the Addams Family look sane.

(Thanks to Tanker and Czar for the info.)

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Be reeeall careful 24 J I M B O 01-18-07 1
 RE: Bauer Family Values Emily RugBurn 01-18-07 2
 Spoiler!!!! geg6 01-18-07 3
   RE: Spoiler!!!! J I M B O 01-18-07 4
   RE: Spoiler!!!! AyaK 01-19-07 5
       RE: Spoiler!!!! YankeeDixieDoodle 01-19-07 6
           RE: Spoiler!!!! trigirl 01-20-07 7
               RE: Spoiler!!!! AyaK 01-22-07 8
 Brotherly Love trigirl 01-23-07 9
   RE: Brotherly Love AyaK 01-24-07 10
 RE: Bauer Family Values RonReports 01-27-07 11
   RE: Bauer Family Values Sagebrush Dan 01-28-07 12
       RE: Bauer Family Values AyaK 01-29-07 13
           RE: Bauer Family Values Sagebrush Dan 01-30-07 14

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01-18-07, 01:32 PM (EST)
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1. "Be reeeall careful 24"

Seems this has the potential to become one of those annoying "filler" plot lines that drive me crazy. Was it last season where the son of Jack's new girlfriend wound up in trouble? Didn't like it...too predictable. Same goes for how long the carried on with the insane daughter of Mrs. Head of CTU.

And $10 bucks says they just "happen" to be within driving distance of Jack...funny how the bad guys (or good guys in danger) don't just relocate outside of the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area.

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2. "RE: Bauer Family Values"
"...other than Kim"

And we can all be thankful for that!

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3. "Spoiler!!!!"
Yup. I hear he has daddy issues.


The strongest man in the world is he who stands alone. — Henrik Ibsen
If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. - Henry David Thoreau

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4. "RE: Spoiler!!!!"

Let's hope he steers clear of any wild animal traps in rural LA...
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5. "RE: Spoiler!!!!"
Yeah, daddy is a friend of the Russian from whom the suitcase nukes probably came.

But his issues with his brother are more interesting, since we've met his brother but haven't met daddy.

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6. "RE: Spoiler!!!!"
TV Quide mag says Jack's father shows up about halfway through the series. Can't remember who plays the part, but it isn't Kiefer's real father, Donald. My husband's wondering why they don't use him.
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7. "RE: Spoiler!!!!"
They tried to get Donald to play the part but couldn't because of scheduling conflicts. Donald is filming "Fool's Gold" with Matthew McConaughey and Kate Hudson in New Zealand.

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8. "RE: Spoiler!!!!"
LAST EDITED ON 01-22-07 AT 10:33 AM (EST)

James Cromwell (Babe, Space Cowboys, Star Trek: First Contact) is playing Philip Bauer.

Edited to add: Paul McCrane doesn't look like either Kiefer or James Cromwell.

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9. "Brotherly Love"
But his issues with his brother are more interesting, since we've met his brother but haven't met daddy.

I didn't see that coming! Now I want to go back and watch last season to learn more about the "three wise men'. What fun!

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01-24-07, 11:22 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Brotherly Love"
Czar on the "24 spoilers" site says that Graham is a "classic 24 baddie."

This season has a lot of parallels to Season 2. For example, in Season 2 we had an evil daughter (Marie Warner) who turned terrorist and murdered her fiance after first trying to frame him for her actions -- without letting her father or sister know anything about it.

Think Graham may be headed down the same path with Philip Bauer?

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11. "RE: Bauer Family Values"
Why did Jack Bauer punch his brother? What gave him reasons to be suspicious of his brother?
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12. "RE: Bauer Family Values"
LAST EDITED ON 01-28-07 AT 02:21 AM (EST)


That? is the Power Of Bauer.

Either that or Jack's clueless and it's good old-fashioned sibling rivalry. Kind of like Niles and Frasier taken to the next level.


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13. "RE: Bauer Family Values"
LAST EDITED ON 01-29-07 AT 10:46 AM (EST)

Either that or Jack's clueless and it's good old-fashioned sibling rivalry

Jack? Clueless? Surely you jest.

Would you all like to see Czar's spoiler for tonight to prove it (at least the end part)? This spoiler is courtesy of The 24 Community, which you should join if you're interested in what's coming up in the future. But first, a word from Czar:

24 is very worried about Heroes gnawing away at its 18-49 crowd. Freshmen dramas that become uber hits have gradually become showkilling assassins, picking off shows one by one. 24 needs to step its game up over the course of the next few weeks because fox has gradually grown stubborn when it comes to moving popular show's timeslots away from other network's uber hits. Jack Bauer would never go the way of Seth Cohen, but fox needs to re-embrace schedule shuffling....again.

The next few weeks are critical. My advice, stream hunky newcomer heroes on nbc.com and watch 24 in glorious high definition on fox.

And on to Czar's clues on Jack and Graham, proving that Jack is wise to suspect Graham (other than the fact that Graham tried to have him killed last season, which Jack doesn't know), which, like much of the show itself, is hidden:

At the Bauer residence, Graham begins to talk. Graham admits that both he and their father have intimate knowledge of the nuclear weapons and that Philip’s company in particular is neck deep in the acquisition and supposed disarming of a handful of soviet warheads. BXJ technologies farmed the task out to an inexpensive specialist named Darren McCarthy. McCarthy went bad and sold the nukes to Abu Fayed. Graham claims that he and his father have been trying to quietly clean up the mess. Jack doesn’t know what to believe and he wants to ask the man himself, so he makes Graham take Jack to their father.

Jack and Graham arrive at their father’s location and Jack doesn’t receive a warm welcome. Phillip Bauer has mercenaries protecting his location and himself and they are also supposedly attempting to recover the nukes. Graham reveals himself to be a true 24 baddie and it’s revealed that... the men protecting Phillip are really working for him and Graham turns the tables on both Jack and his father and they are both now his prisoners.

There's another plot line to the spoiler, but you'll have to get that from The 24 Community site.

Edited to fix Czar's typo.

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14. "RE: Bauer Family Values"
Well, he may not be clueless, but I still like my line about the Niles/Frasier thing.


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