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07-20-06, 09:49 AM (EST)
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"Vincent"
Am I the only one who absolutely hates this guy? He's completely insane, and not in a good way. During his fight with Angela last night, I was totally on her side, and was shocked that the voting was more on Vincent's side. She offered to help him several times, and he wouldn't accept it. He even went so far as to tell her to back up 3 feet! WTF? I thought his dress was boring, except for the space age sleeves, which were just ugly. And don't even get me started on his first dress with that ridiculous hat. Ugh.

Please tell me I'm not alone. And if I am, explain to me why you like this a-hole.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Vincent misscheri 07-20-06 1
   RE: Vincent RonReports 07-20-06 9
 RE: Vincent Tahj 07-20-06 2
 RE: Vincent NewFan 07-20-06 3
   RE: Vincent ginger 07-20-06 4
 RE: Vincent geg6 07-20-06 5
   RE: Vincent CattyChat 07-21-06 13
 RE: Vincent reealiteefan 07-20-06 6
   RE: Vincent LIVEURBESTLIFE 07-20-06 7
       RE: Vincent Fishercat 07-20-06 8
           RE: Vincent Sydney Rain 07-20-06 10
               RE: Vincent reealiteefan 08-15-06 27
   RE: Vincent Sunny_Bunny 07-21-06 15
 RE: Vincent Sunny_Bunny 07-20-06 11
   RE: Vincent ginger 07-21-06 12
       RE: Vincent tvgeek401 07-23-06 18
   RE: Vincent CattyChat 07-21-06 14
   RE: Vincent frodis 07-21-06 16
       RE: Vincent Angelflutter 07-28-06 21
   RE: Vincent reealiteefan 08-15-06 28
 RE: Vincent misscheri 07-21-06 17
   RE: Vincent RonReports 07-24-06 19
 RE: Vincent Snidget 07-24-06 20
   RE: Vincent tac_2 07-28-06 22
 RE: Vincent neiterhCS 07-30-06 23
   RE: Vincent tac_2 08-03-06 24
 RE: Vincent Das Mole 08-03-06 25
 RE: Vincent okaychatt 08-14-06 26
   RE: Vincent Cooking in Sicily 08-18-06 29
 RE: Vincent wallyhoohoo 08-27-06 30
 RE: Vincent wallyhoohoo 09-02-06 31
 RE: Vincent Sunny_Bunny 09-02-06 32
   RE: Vincent BOYmeetsREALITY 09-03-06 33
       RE: Vincent Sunny_Bunny 09-03-06 34
           RE: Vincent BOYmeetsREALITY 09-04-06 35

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1. "RE: Vincent"
I totally agree with you SilverStar. I was on Andrea's side also, and couldn't believe it when the judges told her she wasn't the team player! How can you be a team player when your "team" won't let you play! Vincent is only being kept on the show because of the dramatic element he adds if you ask me. I actually felt sorry for Malan (sp?) when he was eliminated.
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9. "RE: Vincent"
> I was on Andrea's
>side also, and couldn't believe
>it when the judges told
>her she wasn't the team
>player! How can you
>be a team player when
>your "team" won't let you
>play! Vincent is only
>being kept on the show
>because of the dramatic element
>he adds if you ask
>me. I actually felt
>sorry for Malan (sp?) when
>he was eliminated.

Tim's Blog persuasively pointed out that if people were being kept for their personalities, Malan would not have been cut this week.

Andrea's comments to the judges led them to conclude that she was not a team player. She should have said to the judges that she wanted to help, but was shut out by a team leader who thought he was the Lone Ranger.

I think Vincent will be gone before too many more weeks but Miss USA said that she liked his design a lot, except for the sleeves. We never saw Andrea try to give him a clue about those sleeves. Either he did not give her a chance to comment or she did not notice anything wrong with the sleeves or both.

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2. "RE: Vincent"
I agree Silverstar. He needs to go!!!


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3. "RE: Vincent"
I was shocked at the results too. Then when I saw when the judges chastise her for not being a team player I figured there were scenes we didn't see. But Tim's blog shows that he sided with Angela also, so ...
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4. "RE: Vincent"
I have yet to see the episode (dratted 10:00 timeslot) and I don't mean to quibble but I think Tim's blog is more ambivalent than you imply.

"I was pissed at Vincent for his exclusionary behavior, and I was pissed at Angela for being so “whatever” about it all -- she was like a limp rag doll slumped over in the corner. In her behalf, I will say that she tried to work with Vincent, including offering feedback about his design, but he would have none of it. I stepped in several times to facilitate a discussion between them, but Vincent was intractable. Quel frustration! In the end, Vincent produced a dull column of green silk with puckering hems and the most preposterous epaulets. What was he thinking? I don’t think I want to know. And Angela, please stop your petulance!"

So I think he's saying Vincent was a jerk, but Angela just lay back and took it. Not exactly "on her side."

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5. "RE: Vincent"
Well, I'll agree that Vincent is a psycho and that I've had enough of him and his histrionics already.

However, I wasn't on her side either. She was completely unprepared when she met with Miss USA. She obviously hadn't listened when she talked about her preferences. And all she did was drape herself on a stool, pout, and then whine about it later.

I was hoping they'd both go.


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13. "RE: Vincent"
I'm with you, Geg, 100%. Both are on my last nerve and deserve to go.


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6. "RE: Vincent"
I may be the lone voice here, but I feel sorrier for Vincent than I did for Angela. She admitted from the start she knew absolutely nothing about designing a pageant gown. Remember the way she instantly sidled up to Kane (I think his name is; the pageant gown designer). Angela is already showing she's not above trying to scheme to get ahead. So when she got paired with Vincent instead of Kane, Angela may have already felt she'd been screwed over.

I'm thinking if Angela really knew nothing about gown design, she could have shut up and let Vincent do his thing. To make matters worse, Angela even admitted SHE DOESN'T SKETCH. What fashion designer doesn't do some sort of sketches?

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7. "RE: Vincent"
I agree with you realitteefan. I was on Vincent's side. Angela came across as incompetent and not a teamplayer. She may have offered to help Vincent but I didn't take that as a sincere offer. She just asked so she could say I offered my help and he wouldn't take it. When he asked her to do things she bitched. She really didn't appear to want to help him.

His dress wasn't a bad dress. Aside from the sleeves I liked it. I thought his dress last week was very cute. The hat was hideous but the dress was cute.

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8. "RE: Vincent"
I'm with the previous two posters and Geg.

The person who really got screwed last night? Malan. Send Angela home, or Vincent. Malan's been good IMO. Not amazing so far, but worth keeping

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10. "RE: Vincent"
Totally. Malan was a bit out there at first, but I was really beginning to warm up to him -- I found that little giggle of his endearing. He was taking the work VERY seriously, and we often heard him complimenting other designers, really trying to get along. Vincent is a whiner and Angela is a manipulator -- we only get an hour, and I got bored spending so much of it watching them hiss at each other. Tim says it's not about personality, and he's right, it shouldn't be. So why can't we see more of the work the less dysfunctional types are up to? I'm constantly amazed when something great comes down the runway and we didn't see anything about the process that went into it.
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27. "RE: Vincent"
Yes, Malan is a doll once you get past the accent, which I do believe is real. I'm sorry, but that dress Malan designed was horrid. Wrong color and the design was poor. How could he make such an obvious mistake as not buying enough fabric? But I doubt if PR will bring back a designer once he's been cut; it was a fair cut.
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15. "RE: Vincent"
Angela even admitted SHE DOESN'T SKETCH.

Oh she sketches. She had simply made up her mind that she was going to use someone else to coast her through the second round.

The problem is, she's not a good manipulater. She wasn't clever about it at all -- I mean really, had I wanted to get through this way, I would have looked at Kane's design, and instead of whining about my lack of experiance, offered up suggestions to improve his design. And I would have been sketching those ideas in my own sketchbook so it at least LOOKED as if I was taking the challange seriously.

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11. "RE: Vincent"
I tend to think the problem was primarily Angela's, and here's why.

She completely ignored the sketching portion, electing instead to zero in on the person she thought would be easiest to coat-tail. Unfortunately, he (and everyone else) was on to her plan. She even went so far as to NOT sketch anything, ask Tara two very stupid and pointless questions, AND leave the interview thinking that she could simply coast in on the work of someone else.

Her not so subtle approach then resulted in ALL of the 7 team leaders to resolve not to pick her as their second. Vincent, like it or not, got STUCK with her. Had the luck of the draw been another designer, she still would have tried to distance herself if she didnt "agree" with the design, and drop the ball.

That and that alone is why I think she should have been tossed out on her ear, even if that dress by Milan was a log with an unfinished hem. She wasnt a team player, and she was not interested in designing a gown. Since the premise of this show is to prove you are an overall designer -- she didn't and should have been tossed.

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12. "RE: Vincent"
It is not irrelevant that she was the last person chosen when the leaders made their choices, and the other designers, not just Vincent, seem to find her v. hard to work with. I wanted to smack her. Vincent had his moments but I would rather Andrea had left than Mulan (Milan? Millen? Whadever. He's toast).

And? I didn't hate that dress, other than the sleeves.

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18. "RE: Vincent"
hehe. Mulan.

I like Vincent. He's crazy. And he has those nifty nerd glasses hipped up a bit.


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14. "RE: Vincent"
Well said, SunnyBunny.


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16. "RE: Vincent"
That's how I saw it, too, Sunny_Bunny.

It bothered me that Angela's entire plan was to ride on someone else's coattails, so I think I was inclined from the beginning to be on her unfortunate partner's side. The look on Miss USA's face was kind of funny when Angela sat down and basically wasted a few minutes of her time.

I think Vincent was inclined from the get-go to ignore her, too. I don't think he approached it in the right way, but he was pretty clear that she wasn't due any credit (or blame) for the dress. It'd have felt differently about him had he blamed her for anything other than annoying the bejeezus out of him.

There's something I liked about Vincent from the get-go, I don't know what, but I have to admit that I've been disappointed in his designs. I thought the pageant gown was kinda ugly and was surprised that the judging panel liked it. Maybe the green looked different on my TV than it did in person. I don't think Vincent has too many weeks left in him.

I did think it was funny when Angela tried to talk about how awful the dress was, and Miss USA cut her off and disagreed with her. Ha!

I felt pretty bad for Malan, and I would have liked to see Angela go home, but I really think that it makes more sense to send someone home for a poor design that they're responsible for, than just "not being a team player." (Malan's partner (Katharine?) was also not allowed much input and basically washed her hands of his design as well, and I didn't think she should have been booted.) So, I actually agree with the Malan boot, sad as that makes me. The built-out chest parts of his dress looked like squished Hostess cupcakes.


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21. "RE: Vincent"
Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwww ! I will never eat another Twinkie as long as I live>>>
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28. "RE: Vincent"
While teamwork was part of the challenge, there is no getting around bad design and execution. Vincent made (except for those sleeves) a decent looking dress DESPITE of Angela's presence. Malan, with a willing helper, still did not pull off the challenge to success or to completion. Even if Malan's dress was short, I would still have hemmed the bottom; it is sad when he seemed to give up and leave it ragged with threads hanging.
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17. "RE: Vincent"
I believe that Malan's dress was the bottom dress. Is that why he was booted out instead of Andrea? I agree that his dress was the worst, but I think Andrea should have left before him.
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19. "RE: Vincent"
>I believe that Malan's dress was
>the bottom dress. Is
>that why he was booted
>out instead of Andrea?
>I agree that his dress
>was the worst, but I
>think Andrea should have left
>before him.

Andrea has less talent than Malan but he made the biggest mistakes in this episode, and for that reason he was the right person to be cut this week. Tim Gunn tried to give him a clue, but he ignored Tim's advice. There is no chance at all that Andrea or Vincent will win this competition.


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20. "RE: Vincent"
I'm kinda torn between Vincent and Angela.

Yep, she just wanted to ride someone's coat-tails to safety and was a pain the butt to work with, and probably would have been for everyone.

However, Vincent's reaction to the partner-from-heck just annoyed the carp out of me. Leaders at least try to find away to get people to partipate on the team. Now we didn't see everything, but his response to the few times she did seem to try to be a part of the team were not stellar, IMO. He would have probably driven me out of my tree and I would find it hard to be a willing partner on his team. She still needed to find a way to make what she could do look as good as possible, and Vincent needs to figure out how to be the boss without the smug I'm the leader so there na nee na nee boo boo attitude.

I don't know if either of them would have been decent partners based on what I saw in the show. However, the two of them together was probably the worst possible combination.


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22. "RE: Vincent"
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IMO, both Angela and Vincent can go. I'm wondering now why they were even chosen to begin with. For drama perhaps. But who wants to see two boring, untalented, sloppy drama queens eat up time on the show? NOT ME!

And as for the judges giving Vincent more or less a thumbs up on that Sewing 101 green thing, I was mortified. The sleeves - LOL!
(Vincent, your mother ship is calling)

Vincent is a smucky con who thinks his phony laugh and temperamental persona is going to get him by. I find him horribly distracting to an otherwise interesting group of designers. (Angela excluded, of course)

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23. "RE: Vincent"
Of course you're not alone! Angela was kinda slimy in her attempt to work with someone that she thought would win. But she tried to work with him and help him.
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24. "RE: Vincent"
And, sadly, Vincent skated through again. But not without blatantly trying to cover himself by acting like he didn't like his team leader's design. Coward.
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25. "RE: Vincent"
I can't stand him either.

I was hoping he'd be the rule-breaker so I wouldn't have to see him again.

But it isn't such a bad thing that Keith is gone


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26. "RE: Vincent"
Can't stand the lad. Or should I say, "Eldest designer."

And that probably guarantees him a spot in the final three. Think about it - Wendy from Season 1, Santino from Season 2, and Angela/Vincent (pick one) from Season 3.

The producers wouldn't want a clean, direct, head to head competition based on merit, now would they?


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29. "RE: Vincent"
When Heidi was critiquing Vincent, and mentioned the "fine line between innovation and insanity," did anyone else laugh off their ASTERISKS??

It was probably THE highlight of the whole frickin' show. HOW did she say that with a STRAIGHT face??

He's definitely NOT shy about letting his freak flag fly - a freakin feeding frenzy for reality TV. I wish I could say that Vincent is acting, but really, the things he does - and the things he says *gag* - you can't make that stuff up...dude....

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30. "RE: Vincent"
he is an idiot. his twiggy dress needed to be a wash cloth
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i agree. maybe one too many acid trips?
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32. "RE: Vincent"
Agreed. And somebody tell me how he managed to wear a black shirt and pants, and NOT be standing there with Angela this week.

Granted, Kaynes outfit looked like 1)a peacock had shed its tail on his back, and 2) something Elivs and Liberace would not be caught dead in, but jeepers, at least he TRIED to be original.

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33. "RE: Vincent"
Seriously though....

If you were a GAY "jet-setter" you might have paid a ton of money for KAYNE'S shirt! I know people who actually loved that outfit! HAHA!

I've seen similar things in the clubs around here, so I was actually surprised by the judge's reaction!

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34. "RE: Vincent"
"I was actually surprised by the judge's reaction!"

I wasn't. I mean really, they chose Vincent's design with the flying nun's hat for a collar the last show.

What the heck are they thinking?!

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35. "RE: Vincent"

>...they chose Vincent's design with
>the flying nun's hat for
>a collar the last show.
>


That's true! HAHA!

Guess their taste depends which day of the week it is!


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