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"Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
I figured we needed a thread for general Season 3 spoilers and/or dirt on contestants and even models. To kick things off, I found something interesting about Keith. This may or may not be related to the "We're gonna have to ask you to leave" scandal.

It seems that Mr "I have never made a dress before" may have plagurized his designs he submitted to PR. Take a look:

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/7660806.html

OK. So it may not be THE scandal. But there certainly is something shifty about Keith.

Oh, and I read on some other board that Vera Wang is the guest judge for this coming week.


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 RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers ginger 07-19-06 1
   RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers RonReports 07-20-06 2
       RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers Sydney Rain 07-20-06 3
           RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers ginger 07-28-06 4
 RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers Sunny_Bunny 07-28-06 5
 Episode 4 preview bebekid 07-28-06 6
   RE: Episode 4 preview arkiegrl 07-28-06 7
       RE: Episode 4 preview dajaki 07-29-06 8
           RE: Episode 4 preview 2Centz 07-31-06 12
 RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers soldiersmom 07-31-06 9
   RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers ginger 07-31-06 10
   RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers AZ_Leo 08-02-06 13
 Two New Episode 4 previews! bebekid 07-31-06 11
 RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers tribephyl 08-02-06 14
   RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers Snidget 08-02-06 15
       RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers reealiteefan 08-02-06 16
       RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers tribephyl 08-03-06 17
       Jia and Vincent bebekid 08-16-06 18
           RE: Jia and Vincent Snidget 08-16-06 19
               RE: Jia and Vincent bebekid 08-16-06 20
                   Maybe Vincent can make it to the fi... bebekid 08-17-06 21
       RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers wallyhoohoo 08-27-06 22
           RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers tribephyl 08-28-06 23
               9/13 episode is when Jia got hurt. Snidget 09-13-06 24
                   Explains the spoiler bebekid 09-14-06 25
                       RE: Explains the spoiler okaychatt 09-14-06 26
                           RE: Explains the spoiler Snidget 09-14-06 27
                           RE: Explains the spoiler bebekid 09-14-06 28

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1. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
While his protestations sound credible, the more I think about it, the more it seems like copying to me. If it were part of a treatise on fashion, why not simply use the actual photos, and not redraw the designs? You well may have identified next week's ejectee.

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2. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
>While his protestations sound credible, the
>more I think about it,
>the more it seems like
>copying to me.

His protestations sound credible to me too, and I give him the benefit of the doubt. The work that he did in his competitions so far has been excellent. He is one of the best designers this season, not one of the worst.

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3. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
I agree Keith is talented, but probably not as talented as he thinks he is (would that even be possible?). "A legend in his own mind." I think he'll trip over his arrogance. I know some people are comparing him to Santino for that, and rightly, but Santino had a sense of humor about it. Keith is just smug, and it's a less than attractive quality to me.
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4. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
Bumping, because so far this is the only plausible spoiler we MAY have for the "MUST SEE" episode next week.


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5. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
Actually, while this does sound plausable, I don't know if it is that likely.
Remember last season, during a challange involving Nikki Hilton? Marla designed a dress that was a knock off of one Hilton already owned by Chole. Marla refused to change the deisgn, insisting that it was NOT a knock off, even when Tim, all the judges and Hilton herself said it was far to close to be considered an original design. She got passed through to the next round, despite the fact that everyone knew she had tossed a knock off down the runway.

Now granted, after looking at your link, I have to agree with the posters on that site that he basicly either traced or paintshopped those designs. But, since he's not tried to use any of those designs in THIS show, I'm not sure this would be reason to help him out the door. Besides, how come no one called him on this during the audition process? Are we supposed to believe that NONE of these people were aware of those fashion designs yet?

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6. "Episode 4 preview"
First let me say that I hope it's not Keith who is asked to leave, because I think he is good tv. But he does seem to behave as if the rules don't apply to him, so he's the leading candidate for being thrown off he show.

We know it's a guy, because Heidi was quoted in an article as saying "HE was naughty" or something similar.

The epiosde 4 preview shows Tim telling the group "this is against the rules.." Is this before or after the offender has been let go? We also see Kayne and Robert discussing the rules of the show in one of the apartments (maybe after Tim has asked the offender to leave?) OR, could it be that Kayne and Robert witness a violation of the rules, and one of them rats out the offender?

We see Tim knocking on the door of the apt of the offender. Tim has papers tucked under his arm. Could be the contract and rules, etc, or could it be drawings? We also see Tim saying "It IS an issue", which leads me to believe that the offender is argumentative with Tim. Tim has a look of disdain on his face. That would lead me to believe that the offender has not been a perfectly lovely person up to that point and made a stupid mistake. The offense was deliberate.

There is talk on other message boards that Keith left Parsons or Atlas without a camera to record what he was doing. It is also a possibilty that Keith has been sabotaging sewing machines. In episode 3, he was asking who used which machine. Katherine mentioned on the runway that she had trouble with the machine.

Thoughts?


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7. "RE: Episode 4 preview"
My thoughts are that it is sabotage in some form. On the casting special, I remember one of the sound bites being something along the lines of "I think sabotage happens sometimes". I don't remember which one of the men said it, though.


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8. "RE: Episode 4 preview"
I think it was Jeffrey who mentioned sabotage. Could have been Keith, but my gut (semi-reliable, my gut) says Jeffrey.

The disdainful Tim is in an apartment with dark blue walls and white trim. How many apartments have that color scheme? I know Keith's is one of them.

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12. "RE: Episode 4 preview"

I'd be surprised if anyone sabotaged the machines. Remember last season? EVERYONE had trouble using the machines. I think they're just old and tired. You'd think that for this show the equipment would be in better shape...
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9. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
If you watch closely to Tim when he is talking about what happens he is in the room that they work on their project. He is talking in current tense - like "this is against the rules". Not that WAS against the rules. I really think that someone sneaks back to work on a project - or stays late - or somthing to that end. If Keith did indeed copy the designs I think it would not have come out until after the show was taped.

I also think they made a huge deal about the guy being flighty (sorry cant remember his name) - about his time management skills - and how they didnt want him to go on his birthday - etc etc etc. We would all believe now that he is safe. I think he is the one to get kicked. Any thoughts?

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10. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
I was thinking it looked like extra time worked on a project, too. The only person I'm sure it ain't is Robert, given the preview clips.


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13. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
I'm not sure we can count on the tense. When I heard it I thought he was informing the rest of the group after the fact that so and so is gone, this is what he did then said "this is against the rules" referring to the rule violation not the act of committing the violation. I believe Tim has talked that way before.



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11. "Two New Episode 4 previews!"
If you are a PR fan (and I assume if you are reading this that you are at least mildly interested in PR), then you *must* bookmark Blogging Project Runway:

http://bloggingprojectrunway.blogspot.com/

This may be the most comprehensive site on everything PR.

Anyway, you can watch 2 preview videos on this site of the upcoming episode. Michael, Kayne, and Robert are talking about the rules, and they decide to let the producers "hash it out". It seems that at least one of them witnesses a violation of the rules, and they rat that person out.

We know it's a guy, and we know it's not one of these three. So, that leaves Vincent, Jeffrey, Bradley, or Keith.

I still don't want it to be Keith, but I will be surprised if it *isn't* him. From the preview, we see that Jeffrey and Allison are grouped with Keith for the team challenge. Jeffrey and Allison are saying how Keith is a menswear designer, and that he chose the easiest piece in the collection to work on, but that he's very charming, etc. That sounds like a good setup for his downfall and the end of his story.


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14. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
Just read in the new entertainment weekly that a model was hit by a bus.

Didn't say who...anyone with ideas?


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15. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 08-02-06 AT 06:46 PM (EST)

http://people.aol.com/people/article/0,26334,1220108,00.html {warning possible spoilers in the link}

Project Runway model Jia Santos, who was hit by a bus and then dragged underneath it six weeks ago, has been released from a Manhattan hospital, the New York Daily News reports.

The accident occurred in mid-June as the Hungarian-born catwalker, 18, was riding her bike in New York City to a taping of the Bravo reality show.

"She was dragged underneath the bus," Javier Hernandez, her agent at Avenue Models, told the News on July 12. "She fractured her skull and her eye socket and was in critical condition for three days. Now she has been in intensive care for a month."


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16. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
That is such sad news and only 18, too
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17. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
Thanks a lot for that link Snidget!

Wow! How shocking. Glad she's still alive.
With her injuries I'm hoping she's coping, better than I imagine some people linked to the modeling industry would, after such a hugely unfortunate event like this.



I did read the spoilers too, so I'll be trying to figure out who she was with.

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18. "Jia and Vincent"
I have been trying to come up with a scenario where Jia makes it to the final 3 WITHOUT Vincent. After 5 episodes, we haven't seen anyone trying to take her away from Vincent. IMHO, there are other models that seem to stand out more (Nazri). Jia, when given the option to switch designers, chose Vincent for the Icon challenge.

I just don't see someone else choosing Jia, but I can't see how Vincent makes it to final 3 with all the other strong talent.

Any ideas?


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19. "RE: Jia and Vincent"
Maybe they have another swap where the designers have to choose and Vincent decides maybe it isn't his designs that keep causing problems but if he just had a different model the judges would finally see he is the bestest one there. I could see his ego leading him somewhere like that.

Something has to happen.


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20. "RE: Jia and Vincent"
For Jia's sake, I hope that does happen.

Ya know, I don't dislike Vincent. I was kind of rooting for him at first, being 49 and taking a risk to get back into fashion. But he has not WOWed me. Not in a good way. Not even once. He has managed to stay on the show because he has made the 2nd or 3rd worst outfit each challenge.

Someone on another board suggested that Vincent was so delusional that he thinks when he gets questioned on the runway, it's because he's in the top 3, not the bottom 3. So, if he thinks that he is almost winning each challenge, he won't change his designs. And if that's true, no way can he make it to final 3.


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21. "Maybe Vincent can make it to the final 3!"
Because the producers keep giving him a pass.

It's inexplicable to me. He's nuts, I guess that means he's good tv. Not to me.

Soooo wrong of them to keep Vincent over Alison. In six challenges, he has NEVER been in the top 3. Except for the dog challenge week, he has been in the bottom 3. Alison was in the top group for the dog challenge and the INC challenge.

Double standard? They saved Kayne and Robert (twice) because of their previous work and because they "believed" in their talents. But not true for poor Alison.


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22. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
which one was she? tell me the outift and i will remember
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23. "RE: Season 3 Dirt and Spoilers"
Jia Santos...
wearing Vincents recycled dress.

Here's Jia's page at Bravo.

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24. "9/13 episode is when Jia got hurt."
They just said something briefly about it and replaced her with another model for the runway show.
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25. "Explains the spoiler"
I had dismissed the spoiler after Vincent got auf'ed. When Vincent came back last night, I panicked that maybe, somehow, he did make the final 3. It wasn't too long into the show that I realized he would not win the challenge.

So, Jia was there for the preliminary fitting, the makeup consult, then she had her accident. No wonder her first words upon waking were "Am I still on PR?" That's the last thing she remembered, I'm sure.

I think Jia modeled in Malan's show on Monday, and I won't be surprised to see her in one of the final 4's runway shows tomorrow.


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26. "RE: Explains the spoiler"
<Jia modeled in Malan's show on Monday

Is Malan a part of Fashion Week, or did he just have his own runway show?


Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

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27. "RE: Explains the spoiler"
This makes it look like he was at fashion week with his own collection. Googling came up with a bunch of info that looked that way. This site had a lot of pictures.
http://tinyurl.com/pwlg9
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28. "RE: Explains the spoiler"
Here is a note Malan sent to BloggingProjectRunway regarding the models for his show:

Dear Laura,
Thank you for your kind words, I get so nervous after being auf'd showing anything. I love, love, love that picture of Tim and I, He is so sweet. I wanted to also send you a picture of moon who opened my show, that was not on wire image. the models I used from runway were, Moon, Amanda, Maralinda, Nazri, Clarissa, Jia Santos and season two vet my josephine baker, Danyelle Villemanay. Josephine was the inspiration for the show as well as the Folies Bergere.
I am so excited to meet you....
take care,
love,
malan

http://bloggingprojectrunway.blogspot.com/

Once again, I will say that BPR is the absolute best website for all things PR, IMHO. I have no doubt that they will be the first to have pics of the runway shows tomorrow.

Daniel Franco also had a show this week, you can read about it at BPR. I don't know exactly how Malan and Daniel got shows this week, but I am happy for them! Jay has his show tomorrow afternoon, I believe his first since winning PR.


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