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"YO! New Project Runway!!!"
The new PR starts on Weds., Dec. 7!!!!

Can't wait to find out who's in and who's out!


Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

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 RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! Tahj 10-25-05 1
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! ginger 10-25-05 2
       RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! okaychatt 10-25-05 3
           RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! ginger 10-26-05 5
 RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! SurvivorBlows 10-25-05 4
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! ginger 10-26-05 6
       RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! Tahj 10-27-05 7
           RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! ginger 10-28-05 8
               RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! Tejayes 10-31-05 9
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! mam05u 12-02-05 10
 Can't wait! PhoenixMons 12-05-05 11
   RE: Can't wait! ginger 12-05-05 12
       RE: Can't wait! okaychatt 12-05-05 13
 He's Back, and I'm Not Happy okaychatt 12-05-05 14
   RE: He's Back, and I'm Not Happy kjay 12-07-05 15
   RE: He's Back, and I'm Not Happy Tahj 12-07-05 16
   RE: He's Back, and I'm Not Happy CattyChat 12-07-05 17
       RE: He's Back, and I'm Not Happy ginger 12-07-05 18
 Season Two Premiere Rebel Crown 12-08-05 19
   RE: Season Two Premiere Tahj 12-08-05 20
       RE: Season Two Premiere ginger 12-08-05 21
           RE: Season Two Premiere Tahj 12-08-05 25
   RE: Season Two Premiere CattyChat 12-08-05 23
 RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! Pretty_Kitty 12-08-05 22
 OMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tjstein 12-08-05 24
   RE: OMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ginger 12-08-05 26
       RE: OMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tjstein 12-08-05 27
           RE: OMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ginger 12-09-05 31
 RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! okaychatt 12-09-05 28
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! tjstein 12-09-05 29
       RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! okaychatt 12-09-05 30
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! dajaki 12-12-05 32
 Ep 3 Dressing the "Style Icon" CattyChat 12-14-05 33
   RE: Ep 3 Dressing the "Style Icon" okaychatt 12-14-05 34
   And the "Style Icon" is . . . Rebel Crown 12-15-05 35
       RE: And the "Style Icon" is . . . browneyesohkay 12-15-05 36
       RE: And the "Style Icon" is . . . okaychatt 12-16-05 37
           Tim Gunn on Podcasts! okaychatt 12-16-05 38
           RE: And the "Style Icon" is . . . Rebel Crown 12-18-05 39
               RE: And the "Style Icon" is . . . okaychatt 12-18-05 40
 12-21-05 okaychatt 12-21-05 41
   RE: 12-21-05 Rebel Crown 12-23-05 45
 RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! Fishercat 12-21-05 42
 3 cheers to Daniel F esquire 12-21-05 43
   RE: 3 cheers to Daniel F okaychatt 12-22-05 44
 Buy the Designs! realitycoholic 12-23-05 46
 Team Lingerie tjstein 12-23-05 47
   RE: Team Lingerie okaychatt 12-31-05 56
   RE: Team Lingerie SurvivorBlows 01-03-06 59
       RE: Team Lingerie SurvivorBlows 01-03-06 60
 RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! esquire 12-28-05 48
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! tjstein 12-28-05 49
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! esquire 12-29-05 50
 RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! ginger 12-29-05 51
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! nazpink 12-29-05 52
   RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! NewFan 12-29-05 53
       RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! ginger 12-30-05 54
           RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! okaychatt 12-30-05 55
               RE: YO! New Project Runway!!! ginger 01-03-06 58
 Socialite Spoiler tjstein 01-03-06 57
   RE: Socialite Spoiler ginger 01-04-06 61
       RE: Socialite Spoiler dajaki 01-05-06 62
           RE: Socialite Spoiler nazpink 01-05-06 63
               Jobs for the Designers nazpink 01-05-06 64
               RE: Socialite Spoiler ginger 01-05-06 65
                   RE: Socialite Spoiler toddE 01-05-06 66
 Social Scene review tjstein 01-05-06 67
   RE: Social Scene review realitycoholic 01-05-06 68
       RE: Social Scene review tjstein 01-05-06 69
           RE: Social Scene review Tahj 01-06-06 70
               RE: Social Scene review ginger 01-06-06 71
                   RE: Social Scene review Tahj 01-06-06 72
                       RE: Social Scene review ginger 01-11-06 75
                           RE: Social Scene review Tahj 01-12-06 76
   RE: Social Scene review okaychatt 01-08-06 73
   RE: Social Scene review PhoenixMons 01-08-06 74

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10-25-05, 02:14 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
Me too!


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2. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
Me, three, although you KNOW, people, we will find it a letdown afte r the first season. Always happens that way. Plus it will be so hard to top Jay, Austin and Wendy.

But I'll be there!


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3. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
<hard to top Jay, Austin and Wendy.

Jay and Austin - ok.

Wendy?! That woman is the model for the Halloween hag on her broomstick. (But she's wearing the fashionable basic black.)


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5. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
Yes, but she was ideal to hate. You gotta have someone you loathe.



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4. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
LAST EDITED ON 10-25-05 AT 07:48 PM (EST)

>The new PR starts on Weds.,
>Dec. 7!!!!
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>Can't wait to find out who's
>in and who's out!

I posted a story about the cast earlier this month:

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/bravo-reveals-project-runway-2-cast-series-premiere-december-7-3735.php

Daniel Franco is back.

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10-26-05, 04:46 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I hope I like as good as Marla in 10 years.

Gee, was Daniel so popular we had to bring him back? He's not exactly Survivor Stephenie. (But then, neither is Bobby Jon).



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7. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
Wouldn't it be hyserical if he was first to be voted off again? If that happened I would be a fan of the whole season before I even got to see it.


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8. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I barely remember him. He was very good technically, and very boring in what he sewed, and went home the week Austin did the corn husk dress, right?

At any rate, I spit in the general direction of the "returning from being a loser on previous seasons" trend in reality programming. Stephenie, Bobby Jon, Daniel, go home.

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9. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I don't think he was brought back like Steph and BJ, where the producers more or less asked them to come back. According to some article I read, he auditioned just like everyone else, and the casting directors liked him enough to make him a finalist. I don't know if being in the first season had any impact at all, be it positive or negative.

Another thing I noticed is that half of the finalists are from L.A.! Either the talent there was really good, or the casting directors went a little overboard there.

Yet another thing, I saw the pictures of the contestants, and I can't believe Chloe is 33 and Diana is 22. They look like their ages were switched.

And I managed to check out Kara Janx's website. It's awesome! Apparently she started out as an architect, and I totally dig architects! My sister loves her butterfly theme.

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10. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I'm a huge PR2 fan and so I was looking around on the internet for info on the castmembers...you never know WHAT you will find sometimes. And I stumbled upon a blog for one of the designers. It's one of the Asian girls, Diana Eng. Here's her blog if you're interested:

www.populartransit.com

Strange name. eh?

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11. "Can't wait!"
It's the only reality show I was excited about this season. My Wedesday nights will once again be complete

Now, if we can just get VH1 to do Strip Search 2 and Kept 2...


Got blog?

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12. "RE: Can't wait!"
From PM's mouth to network heads' ears...

The more bored I get from this season's TAR and Survivor and Apprentice fiascos the more I CANNOT WAIT FOR WEDNESDAY!

And doesn't Heidi look hot for a lady that just had a kid?


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13. "RE: Can't wait!"
Will someone please email me to remind me this starts on Wednesday?

I'll have to set Tivo, because I know I'll forget it. ACK!

This is gonna be FUN!


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14. "He's Back, and I'm Not Happy"
Why is Daniel Franco back? Who cares? He blew it last season, so why did they let him back in the game?

He's already established, having designed for Saks 5th Ave.

I want raw recruits, completely new to the scene. You know, people that really annoy (think Wendy), but consider themselves All That.

Who will this year's Jay or Austin be? It will be hard to top those two personalities.

Off to read more bios.

See y'all on the runway!

(Just had to write the first rant of the season.) :->


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15. "RE: He's Back, and I'm Not Happy"
I completely agree. This guy made me sick last year. I pray he's the first one voted off again this year. Go follow your bliss somewhere that I don't have to see you!
Why didn't they give anyone else a chance to repeat??
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16. "RE: He's Back, and I'm Not Happy"
In TV Guide he said he re-applied because he wanted Tim Gunn to be able to see his designs, and supposedly Tim said they wanted him back.


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17. "RE: He's Back, and I'm Not Happy"
Are there so few designers-in-the-rough that they are recycling Daniel? I'm surprised they brought him back & agree he should be first to go again.

I can't wait for the 2-hour premier tonight, I SO LOVED last season. I agree it will be impossible to top personalities like Austin (my fave) & Jay . . . we'll see.


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18. "RE: He's Back, and I'm Not Happy"
I think Austin should be a guest judge.


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19. "Season Two Premiere"
LAST EDITED ON 12-08-05 AT 01:16 AM (EST)

*waves to everyone*

Hi! I thought I'd join you over here and discuss this show. I started watching it partway through last season and became a fan right away. Loved Jay and Austin. Very exciting to see them again tonight. (What EXACTLY is on your head this year, Jay? ). Glad they're doing well. Now, on to this season:

Loved the first show! My pick to win is Santino, he just seems to have a look (and an attitude, by the looks of previews *see below* for next week) about him. Also, a fan of Chloe and Nick, so far.

Did they show highlights of the season in the previews? It seemed to me it was not just for next week. Anyone out there doing any spoiling?



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20. "RE: Season Two Premiere"
Hi Rebel Clown! Welcome.

I loved the first show too. Looks like there are some very interesting personalities.

I absolutely agree so far with who they eliminated. Heidi was boring, John should have kept his mouth shut--I would have liked to have seen more of him, and Kirsten just has no clue what she is doing. Is Andrae a major drama queen or what?! I'm not sure I can continue to put up with his histrionics.

Right now I like Chloe, Emmett, and Diana. Diana is like a little mouse. She's quiet and shy. I would love to see her grow and blossom so I hope she lasts a while.

I'm kind of glad Daniel is doing better. He was so obnoxious last season and he's completely reversed himself this season. He's practically servile.


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21. "RE: Season Two Premiere"
Morning, Tahj, baby....my other fabulous Runway friends...

I stayed up past my bedtime to watch, too.

First, did Heidi not look adorably pregnant? Sort of like a sugarplum in that dress.

Second, I think they chose the correct winner of this particular challenge and I kind of like that dood (I never get the names this early). The elimination was also correct; a mercy killing, in fact.

GREAT to see Jay and Austin (well, Wendy returned too, but who cares about Wendy) on the preliminary judging panels.

Still not sure how I feel about Daniel's return. Yes, he is in full grovel mode, but that dress was godawful, esp. around the oobies. Curious how the 40ish guy who Tim's known for 20 years will do. Also not sure about the paired-for-the-season-with-same-model change. I thought seeing how the different model/designer combos worked was an intriguing facet last year.

So glad the show's back!

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25. "RE: Season Two Premiere"
Hello Lovely Ginger.

Yeah, that whole model thing is odd. So it must mean that when a designer gets eliminated so does the model they've chosen.

Tim knows is Emmett, the 6 ft 6 in. guy. I like him.

Wonder if Heidi will have her baby during the course of the show.

The first winner, Santino, is good but he lost major points with me when he said they didn't want to pick him twice in a row. How insensitive and insulting to Chloe!



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LAST EDITED ON 12-08-05 AT 06:19 PM (EST)

I was "IN" heaven last night with the premier. Unfortunately, I fell asleep before the end of the 2nd hour & missed the results of the 2nd challenge. It's on at 4:00 p.m., so I'll watch it very shortly.

I still think it's lame they let Daniel back after his attitude last time & others deserve a chance (hey, he blew it). He especially should have been cut with that poorly made dress that he had A WEEK to make!

I thought the first 2 cuts were justified and they actually would have been justified to cut at least one more (Daniel) for not making a real statement with a full week to impress the panel.

My favorite design was actually Nick's dress. Absolutely gorgeous.

My standouts so far are Nick, Santino & Emmett. The women seem a bit boring so far (I watched the audition clips on the P.R. site and they were also BORING -- need more personality). Diana is intriguing with her mix of science to fashion & uber nerdiness. Kara seems to be filling the shoes of Wendy. Edited to add: Oops, I mean, ZULEMA seems to be filling the shoes of Wendy -- what a b!t@h!

I'll weigh in on the "clothes off their backs" ep in a couple hours.

Great start to season 2.

Also added: Finished ep 2 & what was with all the CRYING by Andrea?? Did he forget his meds?


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22. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I'm so happy it's back!!! AND we got 2 hours!

what I love most about this show is that after the bickering and drama etc we get to SEE what it was all for they are not just running around doing useless tasks nor are they one giant advertisment (the apprentice)

I really like Diana she's such a nerd (not a bad thing in my world) and I really am interested in her combining technology and fashion I think thats pretty cool

The Crying man needs to go next I muted the tv during his stupid attention whore meltdown

oh and whats up with the commentary when people are leaving the runway? did they do that last season and I wasn't paying attention?

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24. "OMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I've never seen or heard of this show before last night. I'm usually at Knit Club on Wednesday nights but we had 8 inches of snow last night so I stayed home and flipped channels.

I am so glad I did. What an awesome show! This is the kind of show that I would have fought to be on in my 20s. Heck, I may even try to get on this show in the future...who knows.

I love fashion and designing and I only wish I'd known about this show for the first season!



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26. "RE: OMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Dahlin, if you knit, catch a repeat of Season One. Jay, the winner (not a spoiler, he's everywhere) was big into knitting his own materials. His final stuff is all very groovy knitted ensembles.

And welcome! If this season is just nearly as good as last, it will still kick the shite outta 2005 Survivor, TAR and Apprentice.



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27. "RE: OMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Cool! I hope they have reruns on sometime...I'll be on the lookout!



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31. "RE: OMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Bravo pretty much turns into the Project Runway channel now. I'll be you'll find Season One rerunning a LOT.


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28. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
Can Franco grovel any lower? Geesh! Humility is one thing. Total abjugation is another.

I still don't see why he's in the show again. He's already well established as a designer. His clothes are already hanging in a big department store. Can't remember which one.

The foreshadowing will take care of him - "He doesn't make good use of his time." "I pay a lot of attention to detail."

I must be the only one in the universe that did not like Chloe's dress. It looked too sixties for me. Big deal - big, oval black pockets.

I totally understood the lawyer's decision not to cut up that scarf. If she had used it as a belt or other accessory, the panel would have ripped her for not using the fabric as part of the design.

In contrast, the guys who used their vintage leather jackets had no real sentimental value attached to them.

I LVOE this show!


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29. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
While I can sympathize with the sentimental value she had attached to the scarf, she still could have used it without destroying it.

As someone who designs and sews clothing, I can tell you that I could have come up with a dynamic design that didn't destroy the scarf or damage it in any way. Even in the clips of her at the end, she's wearing that same scarf as a top! She deserved to go. She was so traumatized by the idea of using the scarf that she couldn't imagine how to use it without cutting it up. How would she handle cutting fabrics that are $100/yd and up?


As for Chloe's dress, while I didn't really care for the design, she did an awesome job of turning her sloppy Jennifer Beal-ish dress into something that looked couture and had great lines.


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<she still could have used it without destroying it.

Well sure, but I think the judges would have ripped her for not being innovative enough.

I don't think she'd have the same issue with $100/yd fabric.

<turning her sloppy Jennifer Beal-ish dress into something that looked couture and had great lines.

Was there anything more to it than an A line type dress with big, black, oval pockets?

Again, I realize I'm in the minority on that dress. I thought the black weighed heavily on the rail thin model's hips.

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I'd love to see you on the show!

I think having a designer's opinions will add a lot to our discussions. Nice to have you here.

ETA - I rewatched the show, and there's more to Chloe's dress than I noticed last night. You're right - it deserved the win.

I also want to add that Santino needs a lesson in humility. "They just didn't want to give me first two weeks in a row" indeed.

Meltdown Man needs to go, and SOON!

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32. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I wish gorgeous lawyer lady had done something interesting with the lettering from "PORSCHE". There are tons of ways she could have anagrammed some/all the letters and made more of a statement than "rock 'n roll groupie". Obviously piecing played a role in every design, and she could have appliqued letters anywhere. Unfortunately for her, the only anagram now applied to her design is "CORPSE".
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33. "Ep 3 Dressing the "Style Icon""
I CAN'T WAIT for tonight's show. I wonder who the Icon is going to be? My first guest is maybe Sarah Jessica Parker?? Big trendsetter, very daring & NYC gal.

Who do you think it will be? It just better not be Paris Hilton or I'll turn the show off IMMEDIATELY!


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34. "RE: Ep 3 Dressing the "Style Icon""
<It just better not be Paris Hilton or I'll turn the show off IMMEDIATELY!

Oh surely not! Maybe Tyra Banks, since she's had her last runway show?


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35. "And the "Style Icon" is . . ."
Barbie! Who didn't look at all like the Barbie I remember (35 years ago or so), but a brand name is a brand name, the Barbie people don't care that I don't know that this is what Barbie looks like now, they just want to push this (second cousin-once-removed-of) Barbie on a new generation and make lots of money, so on with the show!

I'm happy for Nick winning this challenge. His dress was beautiful; loved the colored material and the cut of it. Santino's dress was great, too; he sure is the prima donna, though, isn't he? But I love the confidence he has, and he's still my pick to win.

Wasn't sorry to see the guy leave tonight (can't remember his name) and won't miss Marla when she goes, either.

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36. "RE: And the "Style Icon" is . . ."
well, I was quite supprised to see what Barbie has become over the years. I can't believe the lips on that doll!! No wonder everyone wants to get injections. Any hoo - I loved the purple dress done by Santino (although I am not really digging his personal style - kinda looking like Jesus with his hair and long shirt- but anyhoo) also what a pretty pink dress by chloe really cute. Not quite digging the whole balloon skirt by andrea not to mention his attitude in regards to being judged. He really needs some thicker skin if he wants to go anywhere in that business. But I do commend him on his choice not to put that blond wig on - would have looked cheesy in my opinion. Anyway can't wait till next week!



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37. "RE: And the "Style Icon" is . . ."
<Santino's dress was great, too; he sure is the prima donna, though, isn't he? But I love the confidence he has, and he's still my pick to win.

I dunno. No matter how talented they are, I think both Daniel Franco, whose theme seems to be, "I pay so much attention to detail that I barely finish", and Santino, "I'm the next great thing, and if you don't think so, I'll clarify" will be gone before it's all over. There's been too much foreshadowing for that not to be true.

My favorite designer, hands down, is Franco - classic, clean lines. He gets what sophisticated women want to wear.

For me, Santino is more of a designer for Vogue - I'd look at his things, but I'd NEVER wear them. They scream, "I'm into the runway look." Not a bad thing, but not something I'd be able to wear, let alone have occasion to wear.

Andrae is certifiably overly dramatic. Can't stand him.

And yeah - that Raymundo guy needed to go. I thought "Appalachian chic" was a kind description for that ensemble. Nope - that's an insult to Daisy Mae. WHAT was he thinking?!

I LVOE this show!!!


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38. "Tim Gunn on Podcasts!"
If you have an iPod check out Tim Gunn's weekly podcast in the iTunes store.

I don't know if his comments can be downloaded for other MP3 players or not.



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39. "RE: And the "Style Icon" is . . ."
<<For me, Santino is more of a designer for Vogue - I'd look at his things, but I'd NEVER wear them. They scream, "I'm into the runway look." Not a bad thing, but not something I'd be able to wear, let alone have occasion to wear.>>

Oh, I agree with you completely. But he's among my choices for the final. Chloe and Nick are the others. She seems to have some good instincts and both dresses were beautiful. And Nick is my new "Jay"-great ideas and a great personality.

I didn't see last season's first few shows, so Franco is new to me. He does great work as well, but he seems to be having problems with the time constraints put on them. Which may be his downfall.


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40. "RE: And the "Style Icon" is . . ."
<Franco is new to me. He does great work as well, but he seems to be having problems with the time constraints put on them. Which may be his downfall.


Yep. It's just a matter of time.

Chloe seems to have a good designer head on her shoulders. I think she may well win this.

Santino has talent, but his ego will get him in big trouble with the judges and other contestants. Maybe even the viewers.


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41. "12-21-05"
Any chance this is the night we see Ain't I Am So Greatno's "Why don't you just give four 'auf wiederseins' and be over it"?


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45. "RE: 12-21-05"
Santino's quote about saying Auf wiederseins sounds close at hand! Missed the first half of this episode (I'll see it in reruns soon, I'm sure...Bravo really believes in reruns ), but from what I did see, he looked ready to explode at his teammates and his work looked quite tacky, IMO.

Franco's work was better looking, and I felt sad when he got cut. Didn't expect him to win, but he could have gone after a few of the others (Marla, Andreas, Kara).


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42. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I know nothing of fashion, I don't understand what the people talk about, and I still like the show from what I'm catching on repeats, it's intriguing
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43. "3 cheers to Daniel F"
Daniels exit from tonite's show had to be the classiest that I have ever seen on any reality show.
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44. "RE: 3 cheers to Daniel F"
I agree, plus he seemed highly respected and liked amongst his peers.

And then we have Santino.........

Oh well, what's reality tv without a villain or two?


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46. "Buy the Designs!"
As I was flipping through the Bravo site, I ran across the auctions which are held after every episode for the outfits designed on the show. The highest winner so far was $1600 for Nick's Barbie design. Many of them have gone for under $100. Check it out: http://projectrunway.shopthescene.com/index.php?v=prrd

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47. "Team Lingerie"
Well, wasn't this week's designs a big pile of carp? Any of them could have been out IMO. Daniel V's "Revenge" lingerie was the least worst of them so I imagine that's why he ended up as winner.

And OMG Santino should have been out. First of all, his design that he showed Heidi was kinda fun and whimsical...but what ended up on the runway was cr@p in a box. With more ruching and ruffles. Does he know how to make any garments without ruffles? And according to Tim Gunn, Santino argued with Heidi and Nina for 90 minutes on the runway and was extremely verbally abusive. He didn't specifically say that the producers decided to keep Santino because of his volatility but the implication was clearly there.

Actually Tim's version of events is fascinating. Check out his podcast every week for the behind the scenes stuff that geeks like me love to hear. For example, when they were picking teams and it was down to Marla & Emmett...there was a half hour discussion on why no one wanted them there and that they should be their own team. Apparently none of the other contestants have much respect for them...hmmmm...

Any speculations on the young socialite for next week's challenge? I'm thinking a kid, someone like Dakota Fanning or something like that.


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56. "RE: Team Lingerie"
Thanks for the heads up on the podcasts. I listened to all but the lingerie challenge today. Something to look forward to tomorrow.


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59. "RE: Team Lingerie"
I don't think Dakota Fanning would be described as a "young socialite" -- she's more of a "young actress" -- a socialite is basically someone with celebrity and money but no real skill

Given the show's filming location, I'd say its definitely someone from NYC, but even if you rule out the Hilton sisters, that's still a pretty big pool. But my guess would probably be the daughter of some New York businessman -- someone like Rich Girls' Ally Hilfiger or Jamie Gleicher. Maybe Ivanka Trump, she's a "model" isn't she?

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60. "RE: Team Lingerie"
Woops, I missed this spoiler link at the bottom of this thread -- but apparently I was pretty close!
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48. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
For Christmas, I took my kids to Rockefeller Center in NYC. There is a little shopping are under Rockefeller Center where you can be indoors and see the ice skaters. One of the stores in this shopping area is Banana Rupublic and in there display window they had the outfits made by some of the contestants.

To be perfectly honest, the stuff looked kinda ragged, so I wonder how long these outfits had been out there

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49. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
Were they from this season or last season? Or for upcoming episodes? Any spoiling opportunities?


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50. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
They were from this season. One display was for the ligerie. I believe the other display was from the contest using their own clothes.

One outfit was identified as Chloes. One was identified as Nicks. One was identified as Santinos

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51. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
My ONLY complaint about PR is that it keeps me up way too late. I missed last week's and tried to avoid this thresd but there was no way I was staying up til midnight last night. I wish they put the "fresh" episode on at 9.

I can't wait to see the collections, even if they suck.

I think it's funny that Daniel got only marginally farther this year.



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52. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I couldn't believe that Daniel was let go already, I really felt there was at least a few people that should have gone before him. At first I assumed his leaving was due to the fact that his clothing was more on the serious side and that maybe the judges were looking for more colorful out there designs, but that was until I caught a repeat of the first episode, when they were given $20 to make an outfit. Nina's words were "he's already had his chance last season, it's someone else's turn", which made me think that maybe the judges never meant for him to go far in the first place, maybe it was more out of intriguing the viewers to see what he could do this time and kind of make him to be the underdog. Maybe my theory is off but I do think it's a little off that Nina didn't feel he should be there and what do you know he's the fourth to go.
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53. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
Yeah, I couldn't stay up last night. I stayed up an extra hour and realized it was still just the lingerie episode. I don't even know if they had the new episide this week--did they? Wasn't it going to be a party outfit for a celeb?
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54. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
They're showing that this week. At stoopid 10:00. Which is still quite late for moi.

I hope to god it is not Paris.



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55. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
<I hope to god it is not Paris.

Well, how do you feel about Nicole Richie, then?

Paris and Nicole are too obvious, aren't they? Surely there are other celebs in NYC that could rescue us from P & N?

Maybe the new Mrs. DT?


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58. "RE: YO! New Project Runway!!!"
I'm trying to think of a "twist" - like they did with "icon" Barbie.

Paris' dog?

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57. "Socialite Spoiler"
So I've been searching high and low for PR spoilers. And while I've seen much speculation but nothing solid until this morning.

Highlight below for the socialite if you want to be spoiled.

Nicky Hilton

More about it here
http://www.fashionweekdaily.com/scene/fullstory.sps?inewsid=291681&itype=8488

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61. "RE: Socialite Spoiler"
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Paris Lite.
(With apologies to those people who seem to think Nicki is sooo much smarter than Paris because she is not as attractive and is not blonde).


Darn.

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62. "RE: Socialite Spoiler"
I think she's more attractive, though not as blonde. And certainly no smarter. She managed a Las Vegas marriage that lasted all of, what, 2 weeks?
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63. "RE: Socialite Spoiler"
Well, I have to say that the past two shows have made me disappointed in the judges. Last week Daniel F. was ousted because they felt his designs were too sophisticated and too much alike, even though they were better than Santino's hideous garments and they admired the fact that he took blame for what went wrong. Santino was kept just on the basis that he's creative, despite the ridiculous lingerie he designed and his poor attitude. Then this week Guadalupe goes based on the fact that her dress was gross, which I don't argue that, but Marla was kept because her dress was slightly less ugly even though she showed absolutely no creativity as she pretty much copied the dress. I know that last week there were a few new judges sitting in for Micheal and Nina but it just seems ridiculous that they would keep Marla around even though she is the weakest of all the designers, her sewing skills are not up to speed with the others, no designing and creativity ability and most of all because she COPIED!!!!!! Guadalupe's dress was ugly but at least she came up with it. In my opinion, Marla should have gone this week and Guadalupe would have been a good possible exit canidate for next week as I think her designs may be too out there. I was also disappointed that Nick didn't win. I thought his dress was beautiful, elegant and simple. Santino's was good but I felt it needed a bit more of a waist like Heidi said. These two guys are definately in competition with each other, it's funny because it's like no one else there matters or concerns them.
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64. "Jobs for the Designers"
Disclaimer: content full of dry humor, read at your own risk.

Santino: Fashion Don't Icon : c'mon Santino haven't you heard the rule about not wearing white socks with black heels?

Andrae: Model for 70's inspired gym wear (may as well get paid for wearing those vintage short shorts).

Daniel V.: Guide on How to Make a Dress from Your old Drapes (sorry but that's what last night's material reminded me of) also founder of the Colorblind Society.

Kara: opens a boutique called "Empire Waist R Us" and is also part of the recovery team for Barbie accessories lost in escalators.

Marla: opens a boutique making knock offs of everyone else's designs.

Zulema: starts a new line called Buttcheeks with the motto "show what your mama gave ya".

Guadalupe: designs detachable and reattachable sex toys (after all one size isn't pleasing to all).

Dirty Diana: new Rep. for uptight nerdy girls gone wild.

Chloe: specializes in making cutesy mini dresses for dolls and marries Daniel F. on the basis of feeling guilty later get divorced after the inability to consummate the marriage.

Nick: becomes a poor gay Mexican begger (not at all a derogatory comment, I am simply pulling a Marla and copying what Nick said about himself last night when referring to his convo. with Nikki, I really love this guy too much to be original and joke about him).

Ok ok so I know it's all lame but hey I amuse myself which can actually become a great survival skill should I ever become stranded by myself for a length of time, I won't go insane.

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65. "RE: Socialite Spoiler"
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This is a show where they are careful to tell us in the credits that the outcome is determined, in part, by producers editing for best dramatic content. So Santino's safe til at least the final four no matter what he does.

But Marla...WTF? She sucks. Outright sucks. I could probably sew better than that. And Tim out and out told her that she was making a bad copy yet she somehow couldn't see it til she spoke to the erudite Ms. Hilton. Why are they keeping her around? I can only guess that her 35-50 demographic (mine, frankly) is a big part of the audience and the producers feel "Wendy.2" is a desirable component this season.

I completely agree that Guadalupe's dress was horrible but it was, at least, original. Marla's looked like something a 9-year-old makes with My First Mattel Sewing Machine.

I think we're heading for a Santino v. Nick (Nik?) showdown - the "good" Nick versus the "bad" Santino. Nick's dress was lovely but I think too safe and maybe too, well, old, for Nicky. I knew she was going to go for Santino's. Which was a beautiful colour, if a little top heavy.

I also liked the black dress that the lady with the accent - Something Janx - sewed, and I also kind of liked the jersey dress that Basket Case created. Zulema's black and white dress was clunky and wrong for Miz Hilton. Diana amused me in that she didn't know who Stevie Nicks was despite creating a dress that was, indeed, very Belladonnaesque; she clearly had fun on the dance floor.

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66. "RE: Socialite Spoiler"
I agree that Nick and Santino are edited as locks for the final 3. Chloe and Diana are also secure for some time.

So that leaves us Marla, Kara, Zuleema, Emmett as "no chance in hell" contestants who, much as I hate Santino, "should be given 4 auf weiderseins and be done with it."

And Daniel V. and Andrae as the dark horses.

I mean, it seems like every week the best designs are Chloe, Nick and Santino. Of course, another team challenge will shake that up.

Still good, but this season-as I feared-is not nearly as entertaining as last week.


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67. "Social Scene review"
This week the designers finally had to design for a real client. Nicky Hilton was a good choice for the socialite. She actually has her own design line and studied at the Parson’s School where the show is filmed. I suspect that connection is what enabled her to be on the show. And I am beyond thankful that it wasn’t her DAW sister.

This episode has really brought out the competition. For the most part, the designers used this challenge to showcase their talent (or lack thereof) to their best ability. Half of the dresses had the capacity to win this if they caught Nicky’s attention and met her expectations. Now onto the dresses and most importantly, my opinions.

Winner: Santino

Well, I wasn’t crazy about this design but it (and Santino) obviously appealed to Nicky. He did a great job selling himself as well as his design. I’m just amazed that he finally came up with a design that didn’t have ruffles. Still, it does have the appearance of him adding on more and more details. It’s too soon to tell if that will be an asset or a downfall for Santino. One thing that was nice, we saw a little less attitude towards the judges this week from him, due in no small part to Nicky’s prescence.

Andrae

Andrae’s dress has great lines and flowed nicely on the runway. I liked it but would have put it in the top three. He didn’t take as many risks with this dress as he has in the previous challenges and I have to wonder if that hurt his chances.


Chloe

This dress has a great back view. However, it was a bit like the dress that won her the “clothes of your back” challenge. Same color scheme as well as the racer’s back. I do love the flounce on the hem and it’s a lovely design. However, the sewing on the dress is not great and the fit through the bust is not pleasing.

Daniel V.

I loved this dress. It was my favorite of the episode. Daniel had originally picked out some black fabric to work with this bold print. However, once he brought it out of the dim fabric shop, he realized it was a deep chocolate brown that would not have worked on the runway. He ultimately ended up using the bold fabric for his dress with a bit of black left over from Kara’s dress for the neckline. I live what he did with this print. The tucks and folds add amazing detail to the dress without being overwhelmed by the print or adding bulk to the dress. He has talent to make it much further in this competition.

Diana

Well, I liked the bodice of this dress. It was very curvy, original and shapely. However, the skirt was dreadful. The layers were too bulky and should have been done in silk chiffon to get the floaty look she seemed to be going for here. She had issues with the seams in the bodice puckering and I agree with Tim Gunn’s comments that it reflected her sewing ability. Diana has come up with some very unique designs, but I think it may be her technique that will ultimately take her out.

Emmett

A nice dress, but nothing very spectacular. Emmett is flying under the radar for now.

Kara

For all her drama, she managed to come up with an amazing dress. If it had been blue, I’ll bet she would have won. I got the feeling that Nicky was tired of looking at another little black dress…even though she told Kara it was one of her favorites.

Marla

Pathetic. Why copy a dress that Nicky already has? As soon as I first saw that, I was shocked and knew it was too much like the dress they had seen her in. (The designers were given two photos of Nicky on the red carpet along with likes and dislikes. Marla’s dress was nearly a copy of one of the dresses.) Marla is skating by and clearly doesn’t have much of a mind of her own. Even when instructing the hair stylist on the look she wanted for her model, she pointed at another one of the models and wanted a similar look. If it weren’t for Guadalupe, she’d be gone.

Nick

Nick is one of my favorite designers on the show and he has the most consistency so far. The dress is amazing and the back view would look spectacular on the red carpet. Nicky should have picked this dress.

Zulema

I liked the idea, but hated the finished dress. Zulema seems to be a good concept designer, but somehow her final version doesn’t quite get there.

Out: Guadalupe

Ghastly. I’m not sure who she was designing for but it certainly wasn’t Nicky Hilton. It seemed very high school to me.

So, next week they are on teams again. This time it will be teams of two and both of the members of the losing team will be out. The title of the next episode is “Window Shopping” so I’m interested to see what that challenge will entail.

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68. "RE: Social Scene review"
TJ,

Thanks for the recap and the commentary--remember Todd who used to do the fashion commentaries for Survivor and Amazing Race? Would you get a little bit more caustic and step in to fill his shoes?

Agree with about everything you said. I like Santino's dress, but would have picked Daniel V's as the winner. Loved Andrae's and yes, if Kara's were in a gorgeous blue, she would have had a shot at a win.

If you look at Santino's socialite dress and his Barbie dress, the bodice of the socialite dress is just a remake of the Barbie dress concept. I think he has the personality to pull off his own career and I also think he'll be in the final three but my prediction is that it'll be Nick or Daniel who win. Please tell me they're not going to keep poor Marla around in a nicer-Wendy-redux!


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69. "RE: Social Scene review"
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Although I am about as caustic as a 30something designer wannabe from the Midwest could be...but I'll do my best.

Santino certainly has a specific vision in his head. I'm just bored with his designs because they don't really seem all that different from each other.


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I'm betting on Marla being out next week.

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70. "RE: Social Scene review"
I wonder if we'll get to see Nicky wearing Santino's dress. I'd bet anything that she'll have him alter it some to suit her taste.
The whole bodice looks really messy and undefined to me. I'd like to see that cleaned up.


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71. "RE: Social Scene review"
Well, Nicky and I are always at the same parties, so I'll keep an eye out.


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72. "RE: Social Scene review"
And what will you be wearing, my red-headed minx?


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75. "RE: Social Scene review"
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76. "RE: Social Scene review"
Clever and understated. I lvoe it!


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73. "RE: Social Scene review"
Interesting commentary, TJ. Keep it coming.

I think that Zulema's design is hideous. Looks like those poofy curtains or window shades I've seen hanging in Victorian style homes. It doesn't even look like it's constructed well.

I haven't seen the episode yet - just back from a trip - but had to check in with you guys.

I'm enjoying this season almost as much as last year's. I think the first year of any reality show is usually the best, just because it's new.


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74. "RE: Social Scene review"
I liked (and disliked) all of the same dresses. Santino's bodice looks extremely unflattering and unnecessarily busy to me, but I'd guess that what won it for him was the absolutely gorgeous fabric he used. As soon as I saw the fabric, I thought, I'd wear just about anything made out of THAT.

Daniel V.'s was also my favorite. It was beautifully constructed, a great concept/design, and looked gorgeous on the model. I loved everything about the dress!

Nick's would be my next choice (great color and elegant looking), followed by Kara, then Andrae. Kara's dress in just about any muted color would have been fantastic. It's definitely the most sophisticated looking of the bunch and looks like something you'd find on the red carpet. I'd love to see that design with Santino's color fabric.

I think I'd have kicked Marla off just for making an almost exacpt copy - showing her complete inability to be creative/original. At least the hideous costume Guadalupe designed was her own creation. It was ridiculous, but it was hers. I guess they figure they can kick Marla off any time since she always makes hideous garments.


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