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bookwomanblue 205 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 06-12-06, 01:37 PM (EST) "Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" LAST EDITED ON 06-12-06 AT 01:38 PM (EST) From: "Jill Tracey Ink!" <HeyJill@justaskjillonline.com> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert To: Subject: Join us for the livest chat on the Web!!! Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:15:53 -0700 Cocktails With Jill!!! To: Subject: Join us for the livest chat on the Web!!! Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:15:53 -0700 Cocktails With Jill!!! Kickoff Chat - Thursday, June 15, 2006 7pm Eastern - 6 pm Central - 4 pm Pacific Hot Topic - You Say I'm a B*i*t*c** Like it's a Bad Thing? How to be Assertive without showing your A-- Special Guests - Laura Allen - Owner 15 Second Pitch Jodi from Starting Over! Reserve your Spot now! www.shop.justaskjillonline.com Cover Charge $5 Listen to the commerical attached for full details! This is the "invitation" I received in my email today. Unbelievable! They're out to make money any way they can, aren't they?   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... bookwomanblue 06-12-06 1  RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... creepyoldwoman 06-12-06 2    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... BlingBlong 06-12-06 3        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... Seabisquit 06-12-06 4    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... smokeysmom 06-12-06 5  RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... Anne18 06-12-06 6    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... EMTBGRL 06-12-06 7        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... lyingchristie 06-12-06 8            RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... beautyboyknockout 06-12-06 9                RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... alaholly 06-12-06 10  RE: Cocktails with Jill BlingBlong 06-12-06 11    RE: Cocktails with Jill Seabisquit 06-12-06 12        RE: Cocktails with Jill BlingBlong 06-12-06 13            RE: Cocktails with Jill Seabisquit 06-12-06 14                RE: Cocktails with Jill BlingBlong 06-12-06 15                RE: Cocktails with Jill Labyrinth 06-12-06 16                    RE: Cocktails with Jill Seabisquit 06-12-06 17                        RE: Cocktails with Jill beautyboyknockout 06-12-06 20                            RE: Cocktails with Jill sharnina 06-14-06 40  RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... Seabisquit 06-12-06 18  RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... snowflake2 06-12-06 19    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... Labyrinth 06-12-06 21        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... snowflake2 06-12-06 22            RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... Labyrinth 06-13-06 23    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... SeasonedRefinement 06-13-06 24        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... SeasonedRefinement 06-13-06 25        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... smokeysmom 06-13-06 26            RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... c_ya_so 06-13-06 27  RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... bookwomanblue 06-13-06 28  RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... snowflake2 06-13-06 29    just plain tacky, and dangerous... smokeysmom 06-13-06 30        RE: just plain tacky, and dangerous... Seabisquit 06-14-06 31            RE: just plain tacky, and dangerous... turquiosedove 06-14-06 32  get ready 4 TOMORROW... c_ya_so 06-14-06 33    RE: Photo resizing BlingBlong 06-14-06 34        RE: Photo resizing snowflake2 06-14-06 35            RE: Photo resizing SeasonedRefinement 06-14-06 41        RE: Photo resizing c_ya_so 06-14-06 36            RE: Photo resizing snowflake2 06-14-06 38                RE: Photo resizing c_ya_so 06-14-06 39                RE: Photo resizing Seabisquit 06-14-06 42    RE: get ready 4 TOMORROW... lyingchristie 06-14-06 37    RE: get ready 4 TOMORROW... sharnina 06-15-06 43  JILLS NEW MYSPACE BLOG c_ya_so 06-15-06 44  RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... Floraworld 06-15-06 45    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... SeasonedRefinement 06-15-06 46        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... jubeaners 06-15-06 47            RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... Floraworld 06-15-06 48        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... lvlinda 06-15-06 49            RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... creepyoldwoman 06-16-06 50                RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... SeasonedRefinement 06-16-06 51                    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... cinder1 06-16-06 52                        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... BlingBlong 06-16-06 53                        RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... SeasonedRefinement 06-16-06 54                            RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... GoodnightLittleBear 06-16-06 55  NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL... c_ya_so 06-16-06 56    RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... SeasonedRefinement 06-16-06 57        RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... turquiosedove 06-17-06 58            RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... 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SeasonedRefinement 06-19-06 75                RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... creepyoldwoman 06-19-06 68                    RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... 26mitogo 06-19-06 72                        RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... creepyoldwoman 06-19-06 76                            RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... 26mitogo 06-20-06 78                                RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... smokeysmom 06-20-06 80            RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... sowhat 06-18-06 64                RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... Seabisquit 06-18-06 66                    RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... BimBo 06-19-06 69                    RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... sowhat 06-19-06 70                        RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPE... BimBo 06-19-06 71  RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... maryellennaco 06-19-06 77    RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and La... Floraworld 06-20-06 79

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bookwomanblue 205 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 06-12-06, 01:39 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Unless Jill has changed radically, that picture isn't a very good represenation, is it?   Top

creepyoldwoman 104 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-12-06, 01:43 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Phewwww. A web chat with a cover charge? I've never heard of this but I am sure some of these SO grads will be showing us some new ways to bilk the viewers. BUTT, I don't get it. "How to be assertive without showing your A--' What does this mean? Are they referring to mooning people? Can they only be ASSertive while being exhibitionists? this makes no sense to me. Can someone explain. I am only assuming here.   Top

BlingBlong 69 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-12-06, 01:55 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" LAST EDITED ON 06-12-06 AT 01:55 PM (EST) "I am only assuming here." LOL Was that "a$$-uming"?   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-12-06, 02:42 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Cover charge? Are you kidding me? What a scam artist? BTW, Jill, is it possible for you to go anywhere WITHOUT SHOWING YOUR A$$? Oh, and I believe Jodi is doing a FREE chat tomorrow on www.womencomfortwomen, 6pm PST. Kelly is doing one tonight, same place, same place.   Top

smokeysmom 184 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-12-06, 03:15 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Wow, I'm almost at a loss as to how to reply to this. First of all, a chat with a cover charge is unacceptable. If the participants in the chat are going to be led by qualified forum leaders with confirmable credentials (not "the Universe told me I could be a Life Coach) they would set up a forum on their server that gave people a chance to register, read detailed descriptions of the Leaders and offer subject matter to be discussed. Chatting doesn't cut it, telling people to "grab a cocktail" doesn't cut it (what would Christie say -- horrors!), presenting your"self" in a giant Martini Glass doesn't cut it either. (Although I wonder if any bars on Bourbon Street have since lost business and gained the right to sue....!LOL) Secondly, Jill's website is ridiculous. Not only is it completely illegible and un-navigatable, the graphics are hideous and the many faces of "Jill" border on the absurd. All of these DAWs "websites" could benfit from being designed and developed by professional web developers. And thirdly, not only is the subject "How to be assertive without being aggressive" (re-titled by me coz' I don't need to use the word A** to communicate) tired, tired, tired -- but it certainly doesn't benefit from either the B**ch or the A** connotation. Cursing is the last resort of an unimaginative mind. I'm sure lots of our SO posters can offer hilarious feedback without resorting to cursing! Looking forward to it!   Top

Anne18 239 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 06-12-06, 03:49 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" WHAT is this?? LOL Has to be a joke! lol We don't want to drink Jill. A friendly chat online is all you need to do.   Top

EMTBGRL 2513 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 06-12-06, 04:20 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" OK. An all time new low. And, not only that, but someone I know quoted a Dr. Phil show to me this morning, and (ironically) she said he (Dr. Phil) discussed the difference between being aggressive and being assertive. So, if this is true, y'all can keep your $5 and wait for this episode to air again on television for FREE! My $5 is going to be better spent somewhere else. I've posted before and I'll post in again. Ladies of the SO GET A JOB! Stop nickel and diming people who watched the show!   Top

lyingchristie 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 06-12-06, 04:26 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" OMY Word!!!! JILL, GET A FULL TIME JOB!!! If I want to hear you I can dial in the radio for FREE!!!   Top

beautyboyknockout 72 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-12-06, 04:39 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Nope, nope, nope!! I'm not CONtributing to the Cupcake Fund!   Top

alaholly 497 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-12-06, 04:58 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Oh come on, Starting Over Ladies! (and I do use the term "ladies" with tongue planted firmly in cheek) Is there no end to these poorly planned and poorly executed "get rich quick" schemes? I just hope NO ONE gets suckered into participating. Don't encourage these people, people!   Top

BlingBlong 69 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-12-06, 04:58 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " Ohhhh...almost irresistable, especially if it is an AUDIO chat! Like sirius radio, no holds barred, could be quite wild! The commercial is interesting. She did something different with her website also.   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-12-06, 05:06 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " LAST EDITED ON 06-12-06 AT 05:07 PM (EST) Is going to be an audio chat? ETA: Strike that...Is IT going to be an AUDIO chat?   Top

BlingBlong 69 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-12-06, 05:14 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " LAST EDITED ON 06-12-06 AT 05:31 PM (EST) I will try to find out today. I forgot, it says Women Comfort Women are connected. They are an okay group, aren't they? Audio would be cool, like a private show.   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-12-06, 05:25 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " If the chat is on 'womencomfortwomen' then it's free. Although I have never participated in a live chat, I don't think they charge on this website. I just recently logged onto this site, read transcripts from when Iyanla was on. Don't see how they could be charging people...unless it's pay-pal. I really don't know, but I'm logging on at 6pm PST to see what Kelly has to say tonight, and am curious as to what questions they will allow people to ask. I've got a few questions of my own I would like to ask Kelly, however, I have a feeling they will stick to the 'fluff' if you know what I mean.   Top

BlingBlong 69 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-12-06, 05:27 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " LAST EDITED ON 06-12-06 AT 07:00 PM (EST) Her sign up page says the chat is written by WCW. I just listened to the commercial again and it says "chat AND broadcast"...and it doesn't seem to be at WCW, but at Jill's website somehow. ETA: got an answer! Audio, with different subjects, not about her. I don't know how they can keep everyone from talking at once, but then I've never been to a chat like this before.   Top

Labyrinth 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-12-06, 05:38 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " The past chats I've read at WCW are fluff. No real questions are allowed. Lots of "hi's" to the new people who log on - no moderation so no question is presented and then actually answered by any of the guests. Just a bunch of "oh it's so wonderful to meet you" and "my time on SO was life-changing." I'm not going to waste my time - paid or unpaid.   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-12-06, 05:54 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " LAST EDITED ON 06-12-06 AT 06:25 PM (EST) I think most of the questions asked on the WCW chats are submitted in advance...which accounts for the 'fluff' factor. Testing my new sig...courtesy of Sharnina. Love, love, love it. Thank you Ms. S. Back on topic, cocktails with Jill...anyone? I'll have a scotch...neat...thank you very much. sig by sharnina Edited to remove your identity...OOPS!   Top

beautyboyknockout 72 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-12-06, 07:01 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " LAST EDITED ON 06-13-06 AT 09:28 AM (EST) I'll take a frozen peach margarita, por favor! eta-oops   Top

sharnina 3075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 06-14-06, 08:59 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Cocktails with Jill " You need to check your little red wavy flag. God is good all the time and all the time, God is good.   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-12-06, 06:27 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" This pix looks like a martini, with 2 big fat olives, and 2 large prawns hanging over the glass. LOL She should have plopped herself on a platter of cupcakes. More appropriate IYAM. sig by sharnina   Top

snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 06-12-06, 06:38 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" BlingBlong wrote: <<Ohhhh...almost irresistable, especially if it is an AUDIO chat! Like sirius radio, no holds barred, could be quite wild! The commercial is interesting. She did something different with her website also.>> ----------------------------------------- Sorry, BlingBlong, I have to disagree. This sounds (unlike a cupcake to Jill) QUITE RESISTABLE. In fact, for me, bringing her back even ruined the last few episodes of this series...and watching SO was FREE! And I don't really think Jill will get too "wild" and "no holds barred". Remember, this is a woman who has the following message posted on the "leave a comment" section of her blog: "Submitted comments will be subject to moderation before being displayed." (Translation: "Only gushing words of praise to prop up Jill's undeserved massive ego will be added here.") Does anyone really need to pay $5 to hear Jill trot out her tired old lines about "conflama", "cupcakes", and maybe throw in "For the love of Christmas!" a few times? What could she have to talk about? Sitting? Waddling? Lying in bed watching the "Sweet Sixteen" marathon on VH-1? How to breathe with your mouth hanging open? I agree with EMTBGRL...this unheard-of cover charge is just a way for Jill to "nickel and dime" the SO viewers because she is holding on to the grand illusion that she is a STAR. LOL, wonder if her "cyber-manager Linda" is trying to figure out how she can sign up with a bunch of screen names to create the illusion Jill has "fans". ------------------------------------------ Bookwomanblue wrote: <<Unless Jill has changed radically, that picture isn't a very good represenation, is it? >> ------------------------------------------ No, but apparently Jill is unable to accept how she "really" looks. Just another example of how she is living in "Fantasyland".   Top

Labyrinth 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-12-06, 10:13 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" > Remember, this is a >woman who has the following >message posted on the "leave >a comment" section of her >blog: "Submitted comments will be >subject to moderation before being >displayed." (Translation: "Only >gushing words of praise to >prop up Jill's undeserved massive >ego will be added here.") Actually it only makes sense to read ANYTHING posted on your blog or website before posting. I've had Russian porn operators come through and post their link to their website on my own websites - it is just like spamming. Because Jill was on television her website probably gets hit even more often then my own did (back in the heyday of 75,000 hits per month). They can also use forms like this to spread other rated XXX crap and they do it all the time on the most unlikely websites... my horse website used to get Ukraine porn operators peddling underage girls for sex about every other day. I think the lack of any real quality on the Internet can be easily seen on the MySpace pages. Jill has a product to sell - herself. Whether that continues to be a commodity remains to be seen. Laissez-faire - the market shall do what it will.   Top

snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 06-12-06, 11:11 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Yes, spamming like that exists, but I still believe Jill's concern is more about being asked any "real" questions, or being subjected to any comment that isn't 100% fawning. Kelly's myspace, Christina's first myspace, Allison's begging website...these were all shut down not because of spamming, but because the same HG's, who had no problem exposing themselves for all to see on national TV, were too thin-skinned to handle any hint of a negative comment. I also highly doubt Jill's website gets 75,000 hits per month...if she was that popular, I think more than one person would have bid on her last tacky dog tee.   Top

Labyrinth 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-13-06, 00:14 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" I'm just more pragmatic about this. If Jill is selling herself then it is no favor to herself to post negative comments on her website. It's about the Spin and has been since Eve was blamed for the ouster in Eden. Whatever Jill wants to do I am looking on with curiousity. I will write this now that I offered to help her with her website and after a few discussions with her and a friend, decided that it wasn't something I wanted to pursue. I like Jill and still do, but her dreams need to be aligned with reality a bit more and then she will see success. One of the major problems with all of these HG's hawking and selling on the Internet and ebay and doing MySpace is that they a.) have an ignorance of how to sell themselves; and b.) have no concentrated PLAN and FOCUS on WHAT to sell. Christina doing hats, purses and lip balm? Scattergun. Jill's website is a major case in point of a scattergun approach with no focus. Women putting themselves up on a slutty site like MySpace - how does that give credit to their integrity? Of all the HG's this last season, Jodi, Jill, Jessica, and TJ have the best chance of keeping and maintaining gainful employment. This is not due to anything SO trained or taught them but about that each of them is more intelligent and employable then the other losers on SO. Jill's biggest problem is that she dreams big but is not pragmatic. I find pragmatism gets me through a lot of things while the dreamers are still stuck on the side of the road thumbing for a ride.   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-13-06, 08:36 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" LAST EDITED ON 06-13-06 AT 08:56 AM (EST) Snowflake wrote..."and I don't really think Jill will get too "wild" and "no holds barred". Remember, this is a woman who has the following message posted on the "leave a comment" section of her blog: "Submitted comments will be subject to moderation before being displayed." (Translation: "Only gushing words of praise to prop up Jill's undeserved massive ego will be added here.") Another bullseye on the translation, SF (and more than a few laughs in reading the rest of the post as well). If I get your point, and I think I do, you're not really debating the merits of pre-approving comments for display on a site, you're merely pointing out past behavior in order to gauge the likelihood of future results. In this case, will the "Jill chat" be a "wild" conversation, and is there any reason to expect a "no-holds barred" exchange. I think the odds are exactly as you've presented them. I know you're not suggesting that anyone, including Jill, should prove themselves by posting up pointless, scathing, and profane insults -- but it would appear that Jill thinks every non-gushing sentiment or question falls into those categories. A wise individual, and one who seems to need grass roots support to build career momentum, wouldn't be that dismissive. She claims to be evolved and enlightened. She claims to strive daily to be authentic and to deal in reality, but she wastes every opportunity that presents itself to show what's she made of. She claims to have been a journalist, yet there is little or no evidence that she has enough confidence in her own command of the written word to accept a challenge and even try to favorably persuade anyone who would question her motives or behavior -- even when she is guaranteed her favorite thing: the last word. And, IMO, her blogs don't count. They are messages, not answers to specific questions. I have no reason to believe that there is any substance behind her claims of empowerment, and she seems singularly adept at leading the reader down the well worn path to "Jill Central". That would be the land of tired phraseology which presents Jill, in her own opinion, as the ballsy, wise, and earthy protege of Iyanla VanZant. And her site shows it. I haven't looked lately, but the last time I saw it, she had ten or so gushing comments -- after how many months? She's taken quite a haughty approach for someone in such humble circumstances. At the end of the day, Jill will accept negative feedback from one person, and that person doesn't have to fork over 20 quarters to speak into Jill's life, and she has the right to ask any question she wants to ask. If Jill's answer doesn't appeal to this guru of self-worship, she'll boldy replace it with one of her own -- AND she can do all of that to Jill on national TV! That would be Iyanla Van Zant, Jill's version of the Oracle of Delphi. I have to hand it to Jill though -- just when I think she has scraped the bottom of the unprofessional behavior barrel, she finds another layer to dig around in. The woman is a case study in more ego than talent. Look, she used an "I need help, my life is out of control", reality program to begin scratching her way out from behind a wall that she erected, and that wall stands between her and her dreams of professional success. And frankly, I think she has little more than a pile of dust to show for all of her efforts. Apparently her bad behavior overshadowed her talent, and she is still trying to recapture her lost opportunities -- so, let her knock herself out trying. But if anyone of any importance is watching her, she should know that they are most likely chuckling at her antics as they become more gimmicky, unprofessional, and just plain tacky. Smokeysmom gave a professional critique of Jill's site, and Jill would do well to listen to that critique. Jill uses an unskilled and heavy hand in managing her own career, not that I think she has any option outside of paying professionals to handle it for her. But that requires money, and apparently she isn't willing to do anything besides spend a few hours a week playing Jazz DJ Jillcool, and supplementing that P/T income with dog cape proceeds. She's counting on her belief that a few professionals may be among her "fans", and those fans may give her the benefit of their varied expertise gratis. She's a gambler, and she hasn't yet seen herself through the eyes of the majority. She wears her desperation like a badge of honor, and she doesn't even know it. ETA: the inclusion of the sig created by the gracious and talented Sharnina, which I inadvertently erased...   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-13-06, 09:48 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Um, I just took a good look at that graphic at the top of this thread. Please, tell me that the buxom figure with the tiny body and big head lounging in the martini glass is NOT supposed to represent Jill Tracey. I think I recognize those eyeglasses. If that's the case, forget everything I just posted. The problem is so much deeper than I thought. Someone, urge this woman to see a professional therapist ASAP (and make sure she brings all of her "Jill images" with her).   Top

smokeysmom 184 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-13-06, 12:01 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" LAST EDITED ON 06-13-06 AT 12:04 PM (EST) Touche'! As you mention, I touched on how unprofessional and confusing her site is -- it is completely UN-User Friendly. The navigation takes you way down page threads you can't return from, half of it is not working. For example, if the Chat is this Thursday, there's not much time to get that working correctly. If you click on "Chat" you go directly into her shopping cart -- with no description of what you are paying for. Once you get into her shopping cart, you can't get out! If you click on Share on the left hand side (what's the diff between Share and Write? or Chat for that matter?) you go to a non-working Women Comfort Women page. If you go to the big Share button -- you get an thinly disguised attempt to get your digital information. If you want to pay your $5, don't bother clicking on "Terms and Conditions" to be sure all is above board -- it actually has a note saying Contact Us to find out the legalities! Oh no, you ditnt. If you click on Work (on the left), you suddenly go to yet another hideous Jill site with yet another awful graphic of her. (jilltracy.org) Then, if you click on Cocktails with Jill you get to YET ANOTHER site -- but not the "Chat" where you pay. If you click on the other buttons you either get an error, or -- YOU GUESSED IT! yet another site. Page after badly organized page of single space type copy is not why people go to a web site, except for a message board like this one that is laid out for comfortable legibility. In the course of looking over her site (starting at "justaskjillonline.com") I hit dozens of dead ends, dead links and wound up with dozens of open browser windows... Try it! Just for fun! It's a perfect online rendition of the MESS that is her. Maybe her next job can be as a web developer / designer... Or that can be one of her delightfully varied offerings, sheesh. ETA: Oh, and let's not foget "jilltraceytothefullest" -- yet another hideous looking site I somehow got to...don't even know how. How many flippin' URLs can one DAW have?   Top

c_ya_so 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-13-06, 12:55 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" jill is a crock-full-crap. forget about the $5 fee to talk to her. how about paying her $50 to advertise your business for a week on her site .. WTF is that. how many people ACTUALLY go to her site on a daily basis? or you can join the GOLD card and pay her $165 for a 30 second ad on her chat! once again WTF, gee i wonder how many people does she think she will get on her chat. though she does say that you need to book quick, because their is a limited space on her chat call. and what about getting the VIP pass where you pay $15 for a whole month of chats with jill. once again WTF .. if you speak to her once, what else could you possibly talk to her about AGAIN? she's crazy. she says she has over 500 fans. give me a break, does she think she will get at least 500 hits on her $5 chat? why can't she get her fat @SS off the couch and get a real job and make real money. if she just want's to make money while sitting on the couch .. what about getting to the gym jill? do you WANT to stay fat till you can't get out of the house? are we going to see you on "the insider" being the next person that needs to be taken out of the house on a crane? that's where your heading jill!   Top

bookwomanblue 205 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 06-13-06, 03:32 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Here's the updated email I received today. WCW is running the chat and it is $5.....$15 for a monthly pass! I didn't take the time to download the illustrations and such. Just wanted you to see what she's putting out there. Subject: Can We Talk?? Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 06:31:00 -0700 JillTracey Ink! Here We Go Again!!! Fans of Starting Over I'm sure weeped like we did at the end of Season Three of this Emmy Award winning show that has changed so many of our lives. I can't tell you how amazing it was to be a housemate and part of this incredible show! For those of you who missed it (except those in Miami where the show no longer airs) the reruns have begun and will run through most of the summer. I doubt you'll see the whole season, but you will get a good glimpse of what this season was about. Like many, this is my first time watching the episodes as I was still in the house when the shows started airing...It's quite amazing to see how this experience was edited...And my baggage! My,my...how much I've changed! Enough About Me, Let's Talk About YOU! As I continue to make my way through the enormous amount of mail I've received, each day I discover another interesting and noteworthy person in the community, which got me to thinking, wouldn't it be cool if we could network online! And so to that end, I've created the Cocktails with Jill Chat and message board in hopes that we can all get to know each other better! So when you get a minute, stop by the website, www.justaskjillonline.com and fill out the Get To Know Me! form on the Soul Food page. Looking forward to chatting with you soon! CAN WE TALK!! Finally! It's time to chat! You know how you really want something to be super special so you just keep tweakin' it? Well I'm glad I took my time with the chat because I think it's really special! Hosted by the ladies of Women Comfort Women, Cocktails With Jill is your weekly night out with the Girls! So mix up a cocktail ('cause you deserve it at least once a week!) kick back and join us for some great live audio conversation, information and inspiration with women from all over the country! Plus there's a Message Board for you all to continue the conversation and network in between the chats! I hope you will join us!! Oh, and forward this page to your friends so they can meet you there, too! We'll have a party! Listen to the attachment for more details!!! Just save it to your computer, then open it in Real Player, ITunes, or Internet Explorer! Space is very limited so reserve your spot now. $5 cover charge, $15 monthly VIP pass! SOUL FOOD! Welcome the new columnists to Just Ask Jill Online! My goal with Just Ask Jill is to provide you with information to make your life better. I'm trying to improve my website to make it easier for you. This month I'm introducing a new section on the website entitled Soul Food and no, there's no chicken and waffles! But it is FULL of great information for your soul! My dear SO sister, Jessica, is writing a column called The Power Of The Purse, all about the many great women's organizations across the country worthy of your attention and financial support. Laura Allen, owner of the company 15 Second Pitch will be writing a column sharing information on how we can all learn more effective ways to "pitch and promote" our skills and services. TaMara aka SewAmazing will be compiling READ AND RISE - our book club listings of Inspirational and Motivating books to lift your Spirit. Becky, who owns The Clutter Workshop will be writing a column on the Freedom of Less!!! It is good for your Soul!!! Enjoy! Attachment: the jill tracey PROMO _master_.mp3 1138K download   Top

snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 06-13-06, 03:40 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Lab wrote: <<One of the major problems with all of these HG's hawking and selling on the Internet and ebay and doing MySpace is that they a.) have an ignorance of how to sell themselves; and b.) have no concentrated PLAN and FOCUS on WHAT to sell.>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, it appears that Jill is attempting to rectify this by retaining the services of Laura Allen, professional marketer and founder of “The 15 Second Pitch” rather than relying on career guidance e-mailed to her by viewers. Judging from Jill’s updated website, and the info supplied by smokeysmom and cy_ya_so, the results have been less than spectacular, and more and more “out there”. “Pay her $165 for a 30 second ad on her chat”?? “VIP pass where you pay $15 for a whole month of chats with jill.”??? I second c_ya_so’s comment----WTF???? Perhaps the real problem is that Jill just doesn’t have anything of any real value to sell? And as usual, who can say it better than SeasonedRefinement, who wrote: <<I have to hand it to Jill though -- just when I think she has scraped the bottom of the unprofessional behavior barrel, she finds another layer to dig around in. The woman is a case study in more ego than talent. Look, she used an "I need help, my life is out of control", reality program to begin scratching her way out from behind a wall that she erected, and that wall stands between her and her dreams of professional success. And frankly, I think she has little more than a pile of dust to show for all of her efforts. Apparently her bad behavior overshadowed her talent, and she is still trying to recapture her lost opportunities -- so, let her knock herself out trying. But if anyone of any importance is watching her, she should know that they are most likely chuckling at her antics as they become more gimmicky, unprofessional, and just plain tacky.>>   Top

smokeysmom 184 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-13-06, 04:15 PM (EST) 30. "just plain tacky, and dangerous..." ...I so love all the great comments from the "Boards" women, no fools here. I'm taking a moment to add this caveat re: Jill's site, especially the "Soul Food" area, in case anyone was intrigued enough to just "take a peek." Since she is unwilling / unable to clearly state her Privacy Policy and Terms, once you email her that information she can make A PRETTY PENNY selling your info to marketers and spammers. Those kind of lists cost a fortune in our biz, and they are why no one likes to "register" for things online without a CLEARLY STATED privacy policy. So watch out guys -- who knows if this is intentional or unintentional? either way it's not ethical, or right. Lord knows as a middle-aged woman with a great marriage I've received way more offers of Viagra and P**is enlargement than I probably need... LOL!   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-14-06, 12:31 PM (EST) 31. "RE: just plain tacky, and dangerous..." I thought the same thing Snow about Jill selling people's e-mail addresses, didn't think too much about the spamming. At any rate, there no way I would give her my e-mail address...the only reason I even went to her site was curiousity from these boards and what I read here. Actually, do I give a rats a&$ about Jill and what she's up to...not really. It's more about the comic relief it adds to my day...lately it's been mostly disgust. sig by sharnina   Top

turquiosedove 100 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-14-06, 04:30 PM (EST) 32. "RE: just plain tacky, and dangerous..." The cup cakeries best stock up come Friday, lol. I never knew that was suppose to be Jill in the martini glass either. She needs to stick to one picture of herself-a recent pic and state her real age. All her different pictures and unnavigatible sites are a metaphor of her life.   Top

c_ya_so 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-14-06, 05:04 PM (EST) 33. "get ready 4 TOMORROW..." 2 things. i took this picture from her site. even though this picture is smaller then the REAL JILL. but . . . if you look at this picture compared to the picture on her site. look at how skinny she made herself. also don't forget to grab a drink . . .Watermelon Martini's are the cocktails of the night so grab one, shut the doors, put your feet up and let's get real! jill, you kill me . . . what happend to "LET'S GET REAL" what is so REAL about that skinny picture of you? it is so obvious that you DISTORTED it. who are you kidding?   Top

BlingBlong 69 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-14-06, 05:23 PM (EST) 34. "RE: Photo resizing " In looking at the photo at the top of her page, it is too wide. She is obviously new at photo resizing. Whatever block she pasted this skinny photo in was too tall and not wide enough. The one at the top is too short and too wide. She'll learn in time. Did you go look at the chat sponsor's website? That lady has some interesting items for sale that she makes.   Top

snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 06-14-06, 07:06 PM (EST) 35. "RE: Photo resizing " BlingBlong wrote: <<She is obviously new at photo resizing.>> -------------------------------------------------------- I'm with c_ya_so on this one...I don't think the problem is that Jill is "new at photoresizing". Why is she resizing a photo of herself that is probably more than a decade old, anyway? Those same tired old publicity shots from her radio days in Miami? Shots that barely even resemble what she looks like today? Seeing that Jill is trotting out such old photos, it's very easy to believe that she is intentionally s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g them longer in an attempt to make herself look thinner. I have a suggestion for Jill...since she is unable/unwilling to accept what she looks like, and is so desperate to be attractive, why doesn't she just start posting photos of Halle Berry on her website? I mean, they would resemble Jill about as much as the drawing of the woman in the cocktail glass does (not at all).   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-14-06, 09:35 PM (EST) 41. "RE: Photo resizing " LAST EDITED ON 06-14-06 AT 10:54 PM (EST) So that's what photoshop mutilation looks like, huh? Someone should tell Jill and her cyber-manager to go back to the drawing board and fix that sharp right angle on her left forearm (right below the shirt sleeve). That must be a miracle of science: angled skin (90 degrees, give or take?) supported only by soft tissue, yet it defies gravity by holding itself upright against the much thinner upper arm. OK, I'm kidding about the miracle of science. Who can blame these "artists" for missing her left forearm -- it must have been one massive project, lol. That image represents more than just incredibly bad photoshopping, its a visual reminder of the 370 pound walking lie called Jill. Like an onion, Jill's disguises are removed in layers (Iyanla saw no more than what Jill wanted her to see), and like an onion, each discarded layer leaves us reeling anew as our senses are assaulted by a familiar and pungent odor. When it's all finally stripped away, what we'll see is a rabid desperado willing to sell her kidney to the first casting director who promises to involve her in a project - any project. She's delusional, truly lost in her own greed: "gone, over the edge, flipped, no one is stopping me, it's mine, I can taste it, it's my destiny, get outta my way", delusional. IMO, this is Jill's most condemnable hyocrisy to date. There is no point in arguing the authenticity of that image or ascribing any technical reasonings to it's condition or size. Resizing a photo is not the same thing as resizing what is IN the photo. Besides that, it is so obviously doctored that it would be insulting to expect an intelligent person to believe anything other than the truth - and the truth is, "this is a lie". She truly believes that people are so stupid that she can just lop off 130 pounds of flesh and fabric, and say, "yeah, I've lost weight since January"? Right. If she lost that much weight, she would have taken out an advertisement, or written a massive blog about her favorite subject, herself, and the pain and sacrifice she experienced in being true to herself, blah, blah, blah. Hey do you think that the next BS offering might be Jill's sizeable head on the body of Superhead, a/k/a Karinne Steffans?. Yes, that could work. She can barter with Superhead - she can offer her a free VIP monthly pass (worth $15) to the "livest chat" on the net in exchange for the right to use one of Superhead's photos in which she's sporting breast implants, a thong, and a dog collar. She and her manager could set that morphed image on top of the title line of Jill's new cyber-column -- something like, "Erotica and the Plus-Sized Temptress: Techniques and Tips from a World Class BBW". Yes, that would be the place for her to display that journalist skill we keep hearing about. To those obese and overweight women who find comfort in the sketchy achievements of this charlatan, remember something the next time you sit down to write to her a note. She claims to be walking on a higher spiritual plane now, and she credits her Iyanla-selected devotional for ushering her into this new level of truth consciousness, but that is not reality. Reality is that she is using whatever she can to get her name and various faces out to as many people as possible - for as little cash as possible. You may feel that Jill provides a safe haven for expressing some very personal and destructive feelings of self-loathing. You already know that those feelings come from your problem with your weight, but what you should know is that the evolved Jill has problems with your weight too - and she's put up the pictures to prove it. ETA: typo   Top

c_ya_so 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-14-06, 07:51 PM (EST) 36. "RE: Photo resizing " oh, jill didn't do this by mistake. and it has NOTHING at all to do with photo resizing. that is CLEARLY form the use of "distorting" she took a wide load picture of herself than clicked on distorting image and moved the arrows inward to give her that skinny look like those "magic mirrors" first of all, how stupid does she think anyone who goes to her site is? anyone who goes that site has seen her on tv and knows exactly how "fat" she is. i say to jill, if she wants to be skinny....GET TO THE GYM!!! and exercise exercise exercise your @SS off. heck, why don't you try out for "the biggest loser" all of those people get really thin. wise up jill. you are just so darn LAZY their is no other word for you. get your lazy fat @SS of your couch and get yourself FIT!!!!! and stop lying to your public, because we all know what you REALLY LOOK LIKE!!!   Top

snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 06-14-06, 08:45 PM (EST) 38. "RE: Photo resizing " LOL yeah, c_ya_so, like we don't know...if Jill was "in" a martini glass, it would look more like this: "Uhhhhhhhhhhh, you know, welcome to my CHAT. Could you pay me $5? I need rent money."   Top

c_ya_so 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-14-06, 08:54 PM (EST) 39. "RE: Photo resizing " HAHAHA! YEAH UHHUH! that is more like it! !!!!! maybe she might get MORE offers if she used that photo. why not go for the PITY PARTY look!   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-14-06, 11:22 PM (EST) 42. "RE: Photo resizing " Oh Snow...please tell me she's not that HUGE from the boobs down. Is this photo for real? OMG...LOL sig by sharnina   Top

lyingchristie 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 06-14-06, 08:22 PM (EST) 37. "RE: get ready 4 TOMORROW..." OMG she has RHONDA eyebrows!!! Oh no not Rhonda's eyebrows TOO!! I just can't take it anymore. LOL   Top

sharnina 3075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 06-15-06, 00:43 AM (EST) 43. "RE: get ready 4 TOMORROW..." She needs to fire the whoever created that nightmare of a website! It's terrible. The graphics are shoddy and fuzzy and there is no reason for that other than the person just really doesn't know what she/he is doing. The links are terrible. As stated above -many of them go nowhere or some go to the same place as others. I could do a better job and I only know what I've seen Hubby do when I'm looking over his shoulder. God is good all the time and all the time, God is good.   Top

c_ya_so 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-15-06, 10:18 AM (EST) 44. "JILLS NEW MYSPACE BLOG" It's been a long time...I shouldn't have left ya... So I've been working on my post SO website and I've always planned on making it an extension of my radio show and now we are finally getting there! Up to now mostly my website and my myspace have been spots to come find out info about me and so now that you know just about everything there is to know about me Let's talk about you! I have talked to so many people on myspace and at my website that I'm like, Oh you should meet So n so 'cause she does such and such...So I thought, HELLO! make the website the place, the space for people to get to know each other, share info and girl talk and so I've set up my first chat and message board with the ladies from Women comfort Women and so I'm doing a radio show/chat this Thursday and I hope you guys will come by! Think of it as a networking happy hour, ONLINE!! We'll have cocktails, meet some cool people and chat about SO and all things fabulous! There's a $5 cover charge and if you sign up for a VIP pass it's only $15 for the month! We meet every thursday from 7pm-8:30pm at www.cocktailswithjill.com . There's also a message board and I'm giving away this fabulous basket made just for cocktails with jill by heartstrings homemade and I hope it's an opportunity for us to meet, greet, have fun and maybe even do some business!! So join us! Click below and I'll talk to you on Thursday! Love ya, Mean it! https://www.#####.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post"> Up to now mostly my website and my myspace have been spots to come find out info about me and so now that you know just about everything there is to know about me Let's talk about you! okay, i think that pretty much means, that if you want to know anything more about her, than you will have to PAY HER $$$$$$ i think i would call that "prostitution" or "hustling" she is hustling all her "fans" for money to support her lazy @SS!   Top

Floraworld 37 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 06-15-06, 04:02 PM (EST) 45. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" LAST EDITED ON 06-15-06 AT 07:16 PM (EST) She is certainly crazy. I wouldn't pay 1 cent to be at one of her chats. Jill you are truly delusional and someone who doesn't have her priorities straight. The first thing on your list is to get this chat room going? Don't you have a 40 pound tumor that's threatening to strangle a main artery? Aren't you concerned that these tumors could go malignant? Aren't you concerned that this tumor could continue to cut off blood flow so you'll again suffer another stroke? Aren't you concerned that the reason you had a stroke in the first place was because of contributing factors such as your morbid obesity and you smoke which didn't place you as a prime canidate for an operation? Doesn't it scare you that you weren't even 40 and you had a stroke? You are used to bull$h*tting people and you got on SO and bull$h"*tted Iyanla and everyone else now you're trying to bull$h*t as many people as you possibly can into supporting your non-motivational fat a$$ so you can continue to roll your fat a$$ out of bed straight to the computer with cup cake crumbs around. You mentioned in one of your blogs that you had a meeting, could it had been with an agent? You said the meeting didn't go as you wanted. I do know that many a California agent has turned down people who they feel don't have potential and won't mince words because they don't have time to waste. Could it be that the agent told you you had no public appeal? Face it, in Hollywood sex sells with or without talent. And if your appearance doesn't draw people in then you better have some damn good talent to make people notice. I really doubt that Hollywood wants another over weight, middle aged black woman to sell another cleanser or laxative. Again, none of this should matter because as long as your life span is concerned you'll be lucky to live another 5 - 10 years if you don't do anything about your health. So your dreams will be flushed down the toilet just like your effort to lose weight. Jill for your own sake get your priorities straight, seek a professional mental health provider to get to the reason a web page would be more important than your health and why it is so important for you to be accepted and liked/loved by people.   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-15-06, 06:06 PM (EST) 46. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Great post, Floraworld! You made excellent points and cut through the crap. If Jill reads it and takes your advice, it might lengthen her life. One of the most ironic displays on Jill's website falls under the heading of her "fan mail". Now I have no way of knowing whether or not those letters are legitimate (and frankly, she lies so much that even her "proof" would be suspect), but from all appearances, these fans have no problem with everything you just mentioned, and they see Jill as a role model and a inspiration. How? Why? Were they watching the same program as the rest of us?   Top

jubeaners 29 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 06-15-06, 06:32 PM (EST) 47. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" All Jill cares about is where her next cupcake is coming from. I'm wondering if the bakeries that she mentions on her blog send her a dozen free? (free publicity) In that case, she'll probably go down the list alphabetically!!!   Top

Floraworld 37 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 06-15-06, 07:09 PM (EST) 48. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Thank you SR, but I really do find it amazing how this woman would rather chase fame and fortune than to address her health problems to possibly live long enough to acheive fame and fortune. BTW, I love the way you write also. I wish I had that ability, heck with my fibrofog I often forget how to spell. lol   Top

lvlinda 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 06-15-06, 07:11 PM (EST) 49. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Seasoned, I think you've hit on a big part of the problem...Jill's "fans". They say that there's a sucker born every minute and Jill and Christie seem to have hit the motherload...at least for now. When you look at the various Myspace and websites belonging to the SO women, you see the same fans posting on every site. They are also the same people buying the candles, hats, charms and chat time. As long as the "fans" continue to support these egomaniacs like Jill, I don't see an end to the gravy train. Like you, I am scratching my head wondering how these people can be so gullible. The sad thing is that they are perpetuating Jill's overinflated opinion of herself and delaying the reality of the true reality that eventually she's going to have to become self supporting through some kind of full time employment. It boggles my mind also that she keeps inventing scam after scam. We'll never know how many people are actually paying her $5 - $15 dollars to get drunk and chat with her, but, if it's more than one, it's too many. It's true that "if you build it, they will come", and as long as she keeps building, they will keep coming...for now.   Top

creepyoldwoman 104 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-16-06, 09:47 AM (EST) 50. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" I received an e-mail this morning from a forum I subscribe to. This forum, the LA show, is claiming that they have had talks with Jill for months to host a Thursday night chat with them. They invested time and money and Wcw scooped Jill out from under them due to a miscommunication between them and Jill. They are angry and on their site, they claim that this isn't the whole story. BM didn't have to create hoopla during the show. We have enough post show theatrics to fill the time.   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-16-06, 11:06 AM (EST) 51. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Geez, creepy, can you imagine how Jill and her cyber-staff will eventually spin that fiasco? We can speculate - that's always fun - but I would venture a guess that in Jill's universe, this was a top level tug-of-war, a real nail biter, with Jill as the prize. So, with all due respect to Snowflake, who does the best, dead-on Jill paraody on the planet (with visuals) - it might sound something like this: "Uh...ya know, well it went down like this. The LA Show was winin' and dinin' me. They know what Jill Tracey and her fans can do to a Thursday night chat! So I'm prayin' on it, to no particular deity - let no one say that Jill Tracey doesn't cover her bases - and they throw a little sumpthin' at me, in the way of CASH, and I take it, because a girl has to take care of Jill Tracey. And things are going, and I'm making a list of my demands, and all of a sudden word gets out that Jill Tracey is available for a Thursday night gig. So, the way it works in my industry is 'to the victor go the spoils' - ya know what I'm sayin'? So WCW, and ya'll know that Jill Tracey loves them - it's an organization that's so close to my heart - lets me put a price tag on my chat. Well, hey, that's straight cash, in the pocket, so, I did what all celebs do - I went with the money. Ain't no shame there". So, when she starts blogging about some top-level, high pressure industry meetings that ended with a suprise and a twist, and she begins to BS about two nameless super-powers who were battling for the right to the nuclear weapon that IS Jill Tracey, you'll all know that it was just two internet chat sites with an opening on Thursday nights. The LA Show probably laughed at her cover charge demand, and her cyber-manager found her a greener pasture. Come September, when her ample body is no longer parading on television screens around the country, and she's offended half of her fans with her internet antics and scams, she'll be pining away for the good old days of summer. BTW, Snowflake, feel free to jump in at any time and give us your rendition of "Chatroom vs. Chatroom".   Top

cinder1 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 06-16-06, 01:33 PM (EST) 52. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" LAST EDITED ON 06-16-06 AT 01:57 PM (EST) Let me say I am on the WCW Board and nowhere is it promoting Jills chat or website. I didnt even know about the chat at all until I told her about the email I received from the LAshow also. The owner told me Jill approached her and asked for help with her message board and thats all she did was set that up. Shes gonna help her maintain the board. She is not involved in the cover charge or chat. The owner is quite frustrated herself because shes taking the blame for lol stealing Jill (who would) and assumed that the chats with the LASHOW back in March was a thing of the past and was just helping her put. WCW doesnt charge for chats and never will, There have many many Houseguests visit there and still are. The Women at WCW are very nice and I feel that this may be a misunderstanding that should be between Jill and the other website. Jill needs to take responsibility for her actions!   Top

BlingBlong 69 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-16-06, 02:13 PM (EST) 53. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" AAHHHHHHHHHH CONFLAMA! Why I don't meddle in other peoples business! (Unless it involves me directly)   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-16-06, 02:23 PM (EST) 54. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Thank you, cinder1. You put this into perspective, and it is appreciated. I'm glad to know that WCW has nothing to do with Jill's cover charge. Most of us assumed as much, considering the type of person Jill is, but now you've confirmed it. Thanks for taking the time to set things straight. .   Top

GoodnightLittleBear 461 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-16-06, 06:14 PM (EST) 55. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" This is the first time I have heard of a charge to participate in a chatroom. (Granted, I haven't frequented a chatroom since the 1990's AOL) To actually charge people to exchange a few words with them is ridiculous and pretentious. I guess she feels her words o' wisdom are something to charge for. This is so cheesy, it constipates me just thinking about it.   Top

c_ya_so 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-16-06, 07:35 PM (EST) 56. "NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" LAST EDITED ON 06-16-06 AT 07:38 PM (EST) THIS THURSDAY June 22, 2006 7pm Eastern 6pm Central 4pm Pacific HOT TOPIC - Life on the Inside - Part One What really happened in ALL that footage you didn't see on Starting Over! Special Guests Christie Duran - Starting Over Season 3 and, Surprise Guests! Christie will be talking about her exciting life after SO, her appearance on E! Instant Beauty Pageant, writing for Obesity Help, raising Cain, her jewelry line Inspirations for Change, and so much more!!! Don't miss this exciting chat! Plus new giveaways and gifts, our city check in and so much more! --------------------------- OOOOOOOh! christie is going to TALK about her exciting life....oooh, can't wait! I'll get my "watermelon" martini and my $5 and be all set to CHAT!!!! UGH!!! give me a break! we know ALL their is to know about HER. she tells all on her site! what's left? we already know her "E" thing was a big fat flop! next thing, christie will be making every one of her fans "pay" her to "read all about her" in her blogs. i got to say, jill .. got to give you a big fat NO on this one too!!!!!!! you are such a loser! get a life. your so full of yourself!   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-16-06, 11:10 PM (EST) 57. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" This might be what we'll eventually be seeing: > THIS THURSDAY June 22, 2006 7pm Eastern 6pm Central 4pm Pacific HOT TOPIC - "We Don't Wanna Fade Away...." PART 1 of 75 (Yeah, we can really stretch this BS out) PLEASE, WE'RE BEGGING YOU NOW! Say you still care about us... As SO message boards wrap up, we're not ready yet!!! The agents will call, we just know they will. BUT, We need MORE TIME! It's now or never girlfriends and we'll tell you ANYTHING you want to hear! We know things! Which HG had Irritable Bowel Syndrome? Which HG was Lactose Intolerant? Which HG had disgusting personal habits? Which HG was having her SO checks garnished by creditors? Which HG can't read and signs her signature with an X? Which HG talked to themselves? Which HG had really bad breath? Which HG had an STD? Which HG showered 4 times in 2 months? Which HG was caught stealing household items? If you don't think our cat fights and pissing wars were interesting enough, we'll say anything you WANT to hear..... ANYTHING, truth be damned! It doesn't even have to be about Starting Over. Do you want to know our credit scores? How much we have in our checking accounts? When we had our last GYN exams? Come on, don't you want to hear how six nutjobs wiled away the hours back in September, October, November, December, and January? Please - your $5 will tell us that you haven't forgotten about us. Girlfriends! We tip our hats to the 1920's with: "Prohibition Night" on Cocktails with Jill! Starting Over Special Guest Christie "Support" Duran - Starting Over Season 3 (Milk, Water, Juice, and Clear Soda Allowed - No Alcohol!) Please sit this chat out if you have consumed any cold or allergy medication with sedating effects, any caffeinated beverage, any diet aid, any legally prescribed medication or if you have had nitrous oxide at the dentist less than 24 hours prior to this chat....thank you and HUGS! Surprise Guest Jill "Bovine" Tracey shares her poem, "Chewin' My Cud & Waitin' for my Bull" as well as her practical essay, "Removing Theft Prevention Devices: All in a Day's Work" Christie will be telling us: how she spends those long days watching herself on SO reruns, staring at her modeling proofs with a magnifying glass, and waiting for the 3rd of the month when her Welfare check comes in the mail. Hear about her ho-hum appearance on that "nobody cared" hit, "Miss Shopping Mall 2006" and how to picket liquor stores, wedding receptions, restaurants, parties, fraternity house, and bars because "they should be committed to my sobriety". Hear all about the exploitation of Cain, Tata Jodi's "Financial Promise", her jewelry line "Inspirations for Pocket Change", and so much more!!! Don't miss this exciting (yawn) chat! Plus new giveaways - after you pay $5 - and gifts, our city check in and so much more! NEXT WEEK: An Interview with Jill's Cyber-Manager ---------------------------   Top

turquiosedove 100 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-17-06, 01:17 AM (EST) 58. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" LMAO SR, Omg that is sooo funny!! Surprise Guest Jill "Bovine" Tracey shares her poem, "Chewin' My Cud & Waitin' for my Bull.........so funny! I can see Jill on her bed with a few dozen designer cupcakes dreaming up these schemes.   Top

AshLanie 895 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 06-17-06, 07:00 AM (EST) 59. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" LAST EDITED ON 06-17-06 AT 07:02 AM (EST) Barnum and Bailey (spelling is probally way off)...One of these guyes said: There is a fool born everyday and on that note some will pay the five dollars to see the freak show. What amazes me is that some fans actually believe that they might be chatting with these leadies online. Call me skeptical but it could be anyone, even me, *playing* one of the ladies from the show. Are the conferences cam available or mic available so people attending know it is indeed the ladies from the show not jsut a person playing one of them? There are FREE (paltalk comes to mind) programs for all to download and log on to that indeed have both of the above.....a person opens a room (would be the owner) and volas, cam and mic enabled. Anyone can be anyone over the net in text only. Makes it far more difficult to dupe people when a cam and or mic is available. I also wonder what the legalities are of the above charge for the chat....and for anyone that is fool enough to have paid the charge their personal info is out there. And if it is bonefide: Shame on you ladies that are doing this. Seems most of the ladies became what Christine once was: Prostituting themselves over the net for money.   Top

creepyoldwoman 104 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-17-06, 08:00 AM (EST) 60. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" LAST EDITED ON 06-17-06 AT 08:04 AM (EST) Very very funny SR! You really are an incredible writer! Are there any places I could read you on the net after it dies out here? Do you have your own blog or site? Regarding SO, I also find it strange, this was a self help show,right? so, we have a lot of them out there, like Dr. Phil et al. So, if you watch and like Dr. phil, you will probably buy his products. His books, his diet stuff etc. He has a self help show and he sells self help products. So, it tells me he really knows what he's doing or thinks he does. So, then we come to our show. It was basically set up to help people. To get people to help themselves by exposing the inner issues through a safe environment. So, what can we buy regarding SO? Drunken chats, Crocheted hats and charms. Say what? I know SO doesn't sell drunken chats, charms and crocheted hats but this is all we've got after the show has left. Ok, I will say that I have a Rhonda book from the first season. I know that IY has a bunch of books, pre SO. I don't know about Dr. Stan. So, we could go get some type of psychological stuff relating to people who were on the show. To continue the therapy legacy feeling. There seems to be more of the useless stuff out there though. It just seems to me that the people who buy the drunken chats and crocheted hats and green eggs and ham (sorry, I had to throw that in) are just into buying the feeling of touching a "celebrity". In the end, they become professional enablers. As we all have discovered. They are not continuing the Starting Over message and purpose, they are trying to build up their own feelings of a faulty self esteem by saying "hey, I have something mighty special" which gives a temporary fix to the ego and as weird as it sounds, they are also keeping their idol locked in a cycle of doing nothing. The enabler as well will remain stuck. However, these enablers, eventually, they will find another idol and go off and buy their stuff and the "sacred venerable Christie and Martini glass Jill" will be long forgotton. How is a crocheted hat or a drunken chat going to get me over my childhood issues? How is buying that going to help me? How can people think it does? Some of that stuff was going for nearly $200.00 Didn't anyone learn from the Antonia debt story? I mean it was one of the last ones. Doesn't Christie feel even the slightest twinge of guilt that she's getting so much money for people who believe in her? What are those people getting back? Is encouraging women to sit around the computer and get drunk with a cyber chat really benefical? There are probably some who are going to do just that. Was this encouraged as a way to solve your problems in the house? I wonder if as they are drinking and chatting a parade of new products will be discussed that they could buy right now. What happens to these drunken women when the chat is over? they are drunk , turn the computer off and then what? If they are alone, I think the lonliness would become overwhelming. Well, I am not a policeman for the world, so to each his own. It just amazes me that they keep trying to turn back the egg timer on their 15 minutes.   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-17-06, 11:25 AM (EST) 61. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" creepy, Thanks for your kind words. In answer to your first question, the answer is "possibly". I'll PM you. creepy wrote: "they will find another idol and go off and buy their stuff and the "sacred venerable Christie and Martini glass Jill" will be long forgotton." I'm hoping Christie sees your post and makes a note of it. That way, she'll know how to use the word "venerable" in a sentence. creepy also wrote: "Is encouraging women to sit around the computer and get drunk with a cyber chat really benefical? What happens to these drunken women when the chat is over? they are drunk, turn the computer off and then what?" Oh, they could get pretty sloppy, maybe even tripping over their computer cords, bringing the whole unit crashing to the ground, rendering it useless. If they were planning to spend more buzzed Thursday's with Jill, this could be a blessing in disguise, lol. Seriously, this is a good point, creepy. It's something I never even considered. Drunk and alone - that can be a bad equation. And I know I joked about it, but I have to ask: How can Christie headline a "Cocktail Chat" when she had an emotional meltdown at the SOH when she knew everyone else was drinking and she couldn't? Didn't she tell a non-HG, Jodi's mom, that no one was ordering drinks at a restaurant out of respect for her struggle with sobriety? Didn't she raise the roof with her outrage when the HG's drank alcohol and had a good time while she was having a temper tantrum in her bedroom, using phrases like "they are breaking their commitments to me" and "it's not fair"? Didn't that whole episode conclude with all of the HG's engaging in a seek and destroy mission for every bottle of alcohol in the SOH? And now, we see her lovely "model" face under the title of "Cocktails with Jill - Join Us"...unbelievable. And this is yet another "Starting Over" reunion, is it not? I know we were told that Starting Over + Alcohol = BAD. (Kim learned that after her trial and conviction for public drunkeness. Actually, I think Christie diagnosed her as a closet "problem drinker". Hmmmm....maybe they won't take Kim's $5 and let her chat if she shows up - for her own good and all...) Sure, I know they'll think of some spin to put on that, some excuse to say "that was then, it doesn't apply to life outside of the house", but the truth is that it reeks of hypocrisy. Now, I'm off to the dentist, for a root canal and - tough on Christie - some nitrous oxide!   Top

tac_2 351 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 06-17-06, 06:15 PM (EST) 62. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" Jill certainly is pretty far gone if she expects to make a livable income off her fans but I see that's not going to stop her from trying. Chat@$5 a session with Jill (and now Christie, I see) is simply laughable. What could they possibly say that would interest me other than explain exactly how the lessons (if any) they learned during their stay in the house has now manifested in any real success in sustaining themselves in the future? What a shame Jill is misdirecting her energy which has to be low considering her health issues. So, I wonder what the almighty goddess Iyanla has to say about this? After all, it was she who bullied Jill into a fanatical mindset or at the very least, perpetuated that existing flaw. Where's the accountability here with her life coach? For that matter, Rhonda & Christie - I would find it very difficult to believe Rhonda doesn't know about Christie's scamming activities. Admittedly, I gave Jill too much credit so in a sense, I was scammed, same as those who have donated $$'s to Jill and Christie now will be thinking after they figure out who these women really are and even worse, what they became post SO. (I read in another thread Christie received funding for "Cain's" new bicycle via a fan and is now out shopping for new furniture for the kid. How much more will it take for her followers to finally see the light?!) Jill's BYOB Chats might well bring in a few dollars but I have to believe there just aren't that many suckers willing to donate week after week. Of course, I sure could be wrong as I'm already mystified at the ones who have already bought her 'program' and blatant lies. And her website? What a MESS. gawdalmighty, Jill, you're really a screw-up---but was worth the laughs trying to navigate through the thing. lol You showed exactly what an amateur con artist you are.   Top

26mitogo 493 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-18-06, 01:54 PM (EST) 63. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" UUUUUUUUgggghhhhhh! I thought these two (Jill & Christie) would have FINALLY reached their low point by now but it seems they can sink lower than I ever thought possible!! Come on you DAW Queens of the Freak-Show … get some dignity and self-respect. Leave the snake-oil business behind and do something respectable … something productive … something that will benefit yourselves AND not take from others while you give nothing in return. All you’ve done is continue to lie to & scam others just to keep a hopelessly delusional vision alive! You’ve done nothing to benefit anyone but yourselves! And slithering around on the bottom of the cesspool, desperate for anyone to stroke your disgusting egos & pat you on your gross, over-sized backsides isn’t even doing you any favors. Sadly, the higher the pedestal you both build for yourselves, the more painful and devastating will be the inevitable fall. You can both sit there self-righteously thinking you are so much more “evolved” and therefore far superior to mere mortals but saying it & thinking it doesn’t make it so. Maybe you think you are superior because you have found a few people that you have been able to fool into believing the lies you tell yourselves and spout all over the internet. But you have to remember; there are sexual predators, scam artist, and all kinds of criminals who fool people every day. The ability to fool others over the internet doesn’t take much & even most criminals are able to con far more people than either of you have. I know you both clearly visualize the day you will be laughing your way to the bank to deposit your millions … Jill’s from her nationally syndicated, world-renowned talk show, Christie’s from her highly successful modeling agency/blessing candle industry. I’m sure in Jill’s vision she sees herself giddy as her net worth puts the Oprah empire to shame. But, Jill, when you wake up and find yourself still laying on the bed that just sold on eBay, your eviction notice in hand, unable to find one more “fan” to send enough money to keep your internet connection, you are going to have to face reality. And that reality is that you are an extremely unhealthy, obese, single, middle-aged smoker who’s health could at any moment take a serious turn for the worse, leaving you with only your welfare check and a donated wheelchair. By that time your last desperate “fan” would have nothing left of her own to give and would have finally realized she did NOT learn anything from you and was NOT able to get ahead by attaching herself to your make-believe success. How will you pay for the cab ride to the hospital? What will you do when you have no source of income and finally have to admit you are not the wildly entertaining, smart & sassy, sexy & desirable Jill Tracey you claim … when you have nothing to offer the entertainment industry, your mother is living off her own welfare check since you threw away her retirement savings, and your father once again abandoned you after he realized you would financially suck him dry? Iyanla may have led you to believe you are “all that” and convinced you to just keep dreaming but if she hasn’t already changed her phone #, she soon will. She’s not going to be able to drag your excess weight and your excess “baggage” behind her into nirvana. She’s looking for her own road to stardom and doesn’t have the luxury of dragging along dead weight. She has enough to overcome after this last disastrous year of SO and probably thought you would have realized that the only reason you were chosen for the show was because of your pitiful situation and your over-inflated ego. SO knew you would create controversy and give the viewers something to laugh about when you thought you would be catapulted into stardom after shuffling your way around the SOH for a few months. The show was so ludicrous, no one thought you would take it or yourself seriously. And that web site. I have to admit, it did provide some good laughs. It looked like a total cut-&-paste fest. It reminded me of those school projects we used to do before computers … the ones you cut pictures, headlines, articles, & different letters from your mom’s old magazines and pasted them together on poster board. The part that gave me the most laughs tho, was that first page. The entire page was plastered with your declarations of being “REAL”. Seriously? From someone who appears to have adopted lying as a way of life? Someone who plasters pictures and images of herself all over the place that are either so old they are unrecognizable, have been chopped & reworked to the point of not being human, or drawn to represent anyone except you? Shame on you for screaming to others to be “real”, “honest”, “transparent” (all words used over & over on your home page) when you couldn’t if your life depended on it … which, as a matter of fact, it does! And Christie?? IMO, she has a future even more bleak than Jill’s. Jill at least had a job at one point and could have continued her career had her ego not been far bigger than her talent. But Christie doesn’t appear to even have an education. I see no former success in any field, and she has either fried what brains she might have had or never had much to begin with. All along, Christie hitched her ridiculous dreams to others and still relies on everyone else to think for her and carry her big behind, providing all her dreams for her. She too will have to face her own reality, her own less than average intelligence, her ill health, obesity, and welfare mentality. And like Jill, does Christie REALLY think she is something special and that she actually learned something on SO that puts her any further along the path to success than she was before her whiny days in the house? She did NOTHING other than b!tch complain, get her way, and make everyone else do her work. And that prepares her for being a role model HOW? What did this teach her that she can pass along to anyone else?? She did nothing to better her own life and has continued going downhill since leaving the SOH. And like Jill, does Christie not realize she was not chosen for SO because she was anything special? Christie was there only because Rhonda had already put her in her book and that was part of the deal. I’d like to know how Christie thinks her whining and getting others to do what she couldn’t qualifies her to tell anyone else how to succeed. Surely Christie & Jill realize this year’s SO was a joke and that the purpose was not to help anyone but to create controversy and contention. So why do they think they have something to teach? Why would they act as if they believe they “evolved”, changed, and have something of value to offer others? And worse yet, to sell! They were chosen for the show because they were odd, demanding, controversial, and had severe problems and destroyed lives. Once on the show they were actually set up to enhance their destructive behaviors … not taught to leave their old ways behind. Who knows, maybe Jill & Christie (& some of the others) were chosen this year because they are incredibly gullible, able to be fooled into believing even the most ridiculous lies. Sadly, the LCs and other SO personnel forgot to mention to these foolish DAWs that once the words “That’s a wrap” were uttered, everything the HGs were told was to be completely disregarded. What SO forgot to teach you (Christie & Jill) is that dreams are great but you have to have something to base those dreams on. I’m a 5’3” white woman who passed age 40 a while back. I have some damage in my knees from years of running, tennis, & biking and I have absolutely no basketball talent. I could dream about making the WNBA basketball team all I want. But guess what … it ain’t gonna happen no matter how much I dream, no matter how many others I con into donating to the cause, & no matter how much I want it. Heck, that one won’t even happen even if I work my tail off … something you two haven’t begun to do in your attempt to live your dreams. Face it. Your dreams are really just pipe dreams. Neither of you have the talent needed, the looks, the physical ability, the energy & health, and you especially don’t have that extra “IT” factor that it takes. Besides, there are hundreds out there who DO have what you both are lacking and they are still struggling to break into the fields you both think you are destined to excel. Quit expecting your few “fans” to provide your path to success and stop begging them to fund what you are too lazy to do for yourselves! It’s obvious the “networking” is to supply you with your own free products and services and to uncover any possible connections to an easy way “in”. If Rhonda, Iyanla, & prostituting yourselves on SO didn’t do it, it’s time to face the fact that there isn’t an easy way in and you need to finally take responsibility for funding your own cost of living. There are things you both COULD do to support yourselves … but sorry, no cameras are involved and you’d have to get up each day and GO TO WORK!   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-18-06, 06:02 PM (EST) 65. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" AWESOME POST 26mitogo...I'm choppin' wood as I speak...wants to keep this fire goin'...LOL. Great post. sig by sharnina   Top

26mitogo 493 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-19-06, 01:12 PM (EST) 74. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" "...I'm choppin' wood as I speak...wants to keep this fire goin'..." Seabisquit, LOL ... I reread my post after your comment. You know, I could almost hear myself yelling at both Jill & Christie (and maybe Rhonda & Iyanla) in that post!! And thanks for the compliment. BTW, I love your new sig from Sharnina. She's done some awesome ones recently (including mine) and everyone of them, including several of her own, are great. Thanks for spicing up so many posts Sharnina!!!   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-18-06, 08:42 PM (EST) 67. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" LAST EDITED ON 06-18-06 AT 10:09 PM (EST) There are a lot of gems in there 26! My favorite points you made: 1. Iyanla won't be carrying Jill for much longer - she's worried about Iyanla now. 2. How will you Jill pay for her cab ride to the hospital when she has the health crisis we all know is coming? 3. Has Jill yet faced the reality that her casting on the show was in spite of the fact that she does NOT possess any beauty, much talent, or serious appeal - or an iota of the IT factor - but because she was sure comic relief and was certain to stir up controversy. (Actually, that should piss her off - she's been exploited because of her physical appearance and tacky behavior) 4. The selfishness and greed of expecting professionals to give away their services for free, because those professionals should feel honored in giving it away to "has-been reality show stars/wanna-be bona fide stars". You're at your best when you're passionate, 26! Great post!   Top

26mitogo 493 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-19-06, 12:28 PM (EST) 73. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" Yeah SR, I do tend to get wound up when I get my soap box out. I've never been accused of being wishy-washy. However, bervity might need to be my next accomplishment!   Top

SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-19-06, 01:46 PM (EST) 75. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" Don't sweat it 26, brevity is overrated, lol!   Top

creepyoldwoman 104 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-19-06, 06:20 AM (EST) 68. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" 26 said "What SO forgot to teach you (Christie & Jill) is that dreams are great but you have to have something to base those dreams on. I’m a 5’3” white woman who passed age 40 a while back. I have some damage in my knees from years of running, tennis, & biking and I have absolutely no basketball talent. I could dream about making the WNBA basketball team all I want. But guess what … it ain’t gonna happen no matter how much I dream, no matter how many others I con into donating to the cause, & no matter how much I want it. Heck, that one won’t even happen even if I work my tail off … something you two haven’t begun to do in your attempt to live your dreams." You know what 26? I bet if you were on SO this past season and you expressed your desire to play for the NBA, you would have some assignments that involved basketball. You would probably have been instructed to ask the universe for your chance at your dream, wrote your dream out on tissue paper and sent it soaring in the air , attached to the foot of a carrier pigeon , addressed to Michael Jordon. You would hear the door bell ring, go answer it and there would be a basketball wrapped in a bow with instructions to go down to that park they always go to. There you will play with a girls highschool B ball team. They will let you score baskets and you will think yourself worthy of playing. Eventually, you will be persuaded into thinking that being a coach for poor youths, is better then recognizing your dream and is more satisfying. You will end your stay with an assignment to coach a big game in an LA park rasing money for poor kids. Then you graduate. Can't you see it? Seriously though boy did you hit on a lot of points in your post! Reading your post made me realize how low this last season really did become. I got the most out of Kim, I have to say. However, everyone else, boy oh boy. I really also think the LCs led the women down a strange path that is not very helpful to them or society at large.   Top

26mitogo 493 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-19-06, 12:14 PM (EST) 72. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" You know creepyoldwoman you might just have something here. I spoke to the universe this morning and was trying desperately to get the carrier pigeon to sit still long enough to get this darn message tied to his ankle. He bit me & flew off. But, alas, I shant give up. I will press on … for the universe has assured me, all I need do is keep bouncing … uhm, I mean … dribbling … or uhh pressing forward and keep my dream alive … then all will be MINE. The universe promised me FAME & RICHES greater than I could ever imagine. In fact, it told me to begin selling my autograph immediately! Since this whole amazing idea was because of your suggestion, I will let you buy the very 1st autograph I put up for sell! However, I must ask that you purchase it within the next 2 days at the VERY LOW discounted introduction price of only $25!! Since my value, and of course the value of my autograph, will increase soooo rapidly, I will only be able to sell it through tomorrow for such a low price. After that, the world will know who I am and how great I am. From then on, I will be much too famous and much to rich to have any further contact with anyone other than my fellow celebs on the “A-list”. Nothing personal, just that I will not be able to waste my time dealing with regular people one-on-one. I will have been far too blessed for such nonsense. You will, however, be able to purchase tickets to any of my many appearances for a special SO price of only $500/ticket if you mention “Reality TV World Message Board Forums” when purchasing. Also, my first book should be out before the end of the year and be available for purchase from any of your national booksellers (hardbound: $49.95)! Can you believe how very BLESSED you are getting things THIS awesome for such a low prices? It’s only because you are one of my special SO-message-board-sistas. You will NOT want to miss a single one of my lectures, interviews, or books because I will be helping you and so many others know how you all can leave your boring, unfulfilled, inauthentic lives behind and be like ME … famous with many names you can drop anytime you need to impress someone. I will be a big deal, you know, … very important people will know me and say my name … out loud! Oh, and I have decided to donate 2% to a worthy cause … to be determined later … because I am a compassionate person with much love to give. Also, because you are one of my thousands of special SO Board Sistas who all love and adore me, you may sell on eBay any of the posts I wrote that mention you by name. Feel free to charge a very high price because I am worth it! All I ask is that you also give 2% to the charity I will make up name later. By the way, if you put any pictures of me in your own web sites or on your eBay ad, please make sure you s—t—r—e—t—c—h them to the full height of the page so that I look the part of a very tall pro-basketball player. Thank you for helping me become all I am meant to be. You are so blessed to know me. I am sure you will be seeing me VERY soon in the starting line-up of all the LA Laker games, especially those being aired on national television! I know you will want to know everything I am doing and every thought I am thinking so I will try to find time to put up a web page. This may be difficult since I am going to be extremely busy with games (even tho I don’t have to bother with practices since the universe will give me all the talent and ability I will need without having to work hard like all those other weak players), my lecture tour, book promotions, and many autograph signings. If you or anyone else cannot wait for me to find time to do the web site myself, you may contact me about providing the site and setting it up for me. In return, I will say your name 3 times somewhere on the site. I will always have compassion for you, NBA superstar 26mitogo   Top

creepyoldwoman 104 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-19-06, 05:44 PM (EST) 76. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" Bravo! I am glad you recognized the reality of your dreams and how far and high they can lead you, 26. Can I be your cyber manager? I can get you a great gig for a booze soaked chat on some proboard somewhere. I am also thinking of guestbooks, feedback forms and well, the sky's the limit, as your pigeon saw. Make sure you sell the original basketball they gave to you on Ebay, starting price well $150.00 with autograph. Eventually you will have to promise us the goods on what really went on in the house, since you know that that is all we shallow people are interested in. The liasons with the cameramen , women? ugly statue out back? The endless phone calls from graduated HG's who can't leave. How lisa 1 had lice and Lisa 2 had bad breath and Christie had zits and Kelly picked them. please oh great 26mitogo, is that even your real name? lol. What other secrets can we pay you for? Us mere mortals, drowning in our boring routine lives. Oh, wait , i am your cyber manager, I forgot. i got all caught up in our millions we will make. For the charity? Well, think of something really really long, so nobody will feel like looking it up and they'll just send us check. The charityforthehasbeenrealitytvshowstarswholosttheir15minutesalongtimeago. Or TCFTHBRTSTWLT15MALTA ORG.   Top

26mitogo 493 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-20-06, 12:51 PM (EST) 78. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" Well creepyoldwoman, I’ve thought long and hard about it and I will choose you – from the thousands of other offers I received – to be my cyber manager. However, there is one thing you might consider … I know you will leap at the opportunity of working for me full-time for free, but there were some among my HUGE numbers of fans that would be THRILLED with just the mention of their name in one of my blogs … and are willing to pay me hansomly for that honor. Just a thought since being allowed to be my cyber manager is indeed a HUGE HONOR! Yes, I know, you are probably screaming and jumping around … thrilled at this great opportunity to have a real connection to me! Celebrate for a moment then we must get to work. I will include a list of items to put for sale on eBay. However, our first priority is to set up a page on my web site to get all the information possible on every one of my millions of fans. I don’t care what excuse you use to get it. Heck, my fans are stupid enough love me enough to give you everything I ask for just because it is an honor for me to know their names, where they live, email addresses, etc. When you set up this page, be sure to have them include their social security number, annual household income, and bank account #s. Fool them Tell them I need this stuff so they can buy my junk valuable property on eBay … new policy or something. Once I have all their information, there are hundreds of ways to scam honor them. Oh, be sure to get birthdates too … say we will be doing something special for everyone’s Bday. And get names, addresses, tax #s, etc. of everyone’s work & businesses. Make sure you convince plenty of them to pay the $1000/sq.inch for ad space on one of my web pages. Tell them millions will see it and that they too will become rich because of my superstar popularity. If they supply me with a lifetime of free products or services I will personally endorse whatever they are selling. I don’t care if I actually like it or not, as long as I get plenty of it free … especially if it’s FOOD!!! On eBay, you can begin listing the following: • my 1st ever basketball given to me by Iyanla, High Priestess of All Things Voodoo all of the following were worn only once by me for the 1st annual SO basketball “throw off” … • Basketball shorts, size 32, red/black • Basketball jersey, size 28, red/black, with the # “10” in white (#10 because I consider myself a perfect 10!) • Granny Panties, size XXXL, red – to match basketball shorts • Matching Sports Bra, size 40EE, red! • White sports socks, size men’s L (well worn since I had them long b4 SO, but an honor to own!) • White high-top basketball shoes, size 12 The charity – TCFTHBRTSTWLT15MALTA Org. is perfect!!! The name is long enough so no one will actually look it up and believable enough since there are so many other reality show DAWs stars who actually thought they had the looks, talent, and star quality that I have! What a pitiful bunch of idiots … to actually think they could go on to become a superstar like me just because they appeared on a reality show. Paa-leeease! As for my blog … you write it. My hands are cramped from signing my autograph on everything I own. Just make stuff up but make sure I sound FAB-U-LUS!!! This is just the beginning. Our phones will be ringing soon with agents, screen writers, publishers, and hosts & writers from every magazine, newspaper, & television show willing to pay for interviews. So get ready for the ride. I have already opened 5 bank accounts, 2 overseas, ready to handle the $$$$$ as it begins rolling in!!!   Top

smokeysmom 184 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 06-20-06, 03:23 PM (EST) 80. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" 26 -- wonderful! A much needed coffee spittin' LOL! Have you considered being "cyber manager" in the Be The Houseguest game? You could "cyber-represent" Christine, Jill etc. Especially since you are willing to pay them for the opportunity... The Universe has blessed... er, seen..., yeah, uh, seen you! and your plots... er, schemes... I mean IDEAS fit right in!   Top

sowhat 251 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 06-18-06, 04:02 PM (EST) 64. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" I do believe a more realistic chat pic is necessary... How's this?? ~ ~ ~   Top

Seabisquit 408 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 06-18-06, 06:06 PM (EST) 66. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" SEXY JILL...NOT. Too funny sowhat. ROFLMAO Sweeeeeeettttttt pix!!! p.s. you've got to post one of Christie...please...pretty please, but use your WIDE ANGLE lense to get the full shot of you know what. sig by sharnina   Top

BimBo 63 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-19-06, 07:40 AM (EST) 69. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" Is that the stem of a martini glass I see sticking out of there????   Top

sowhat 251 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 06-19-06, 08:57 AM (EST) 70. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" ** Christie D. at the amazing Reality for Diabetes Pancake Breakfast & 5k Run ** taking a well-deserved break from the exhausting trips to the dollar store!!   Top

BimBo 63 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 06-19-06, 11:50 AM (EST) 71. "RE: NEXT Cocktails with Jill....SPECIAL GUEST...CHRISTIE!!!!!" OH MY GAAAWWWDDDD THAT'S HILARIOUS!!!!! I think her legs are trying to catch up to her ego.   Top

maryellennaco 1084 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 06-19-06, 06:28 PM (EST) 77. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" Fabulous posts, everybody and FANTASTIC photos of Jill & Christie!!! Keep it up!!!   Top

Floraworld 37 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 06-20-06, 12:55 PM (EST) 79. "RE: Cocktails with Jill Jodi and Laura Allen - with a COVER charge?" LAST EDITED ON 06-20-06 AT 05:56 PM (EST) I wonder if Human Services knows about this $5 chat and what they would think? With Jill's medical history and obesity I don't know why she just doesn't apply for SSI? Probably would be easier to get medical help and support herself better than these drop in the pan jobs. She could always get off once her medical issues and weight loss has been achieved because she's fooling herself thinking she has the energy level to pursue any dream. Jill one does not get a major television talk show by having a chat site on the web. Well looks like Jill has a voice over under her belt, actually it was more of an endorsement for a weight loss product in which she says she lost 20 pounds. Sounds exactly like her using a ficticious name. Also sounds on the commercial she was talking over a phone line. Sorry I don't know the product name but the commercial aired on an am station am hours. I'll try to listen out for it to see if I hear it again. Oh yeah, this was in the New York City area.   Top

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