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"Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?"
Micheyle 3 desperate attention whore postings
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04-13-06, 11:20 PM (EST)
 
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"Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
I have been avidly watching SO for quite some time and just recently starting reading the boards here. One thing that I noticed is that there is a lot of judgement going on about certain HGs and thier actions or failure of actions. They can be seriously frustrating! lol But, these women are there, in that house, because they recognize they have some issues and they have been unable to correct it on their own or don't know where to go to start their growth. I guess what I'm saying is that if the women in the house didn't have these issues they are dealing with, that irritate us viewers at times (and I admit I'm irritated by their behavior quite often) to the point we have to post about them and even call them names, like "Toadie", they wouldn't be on the show. I certainly hope whenever a new houseguest arrives that there will be something about her that I will dislike, otherwise, she'd be taking up a spot in the house that could be filled by someone who really needed the help. It is my opinion that every single one of the women in that house are there because of a sincere desire to better themselves. Sometimes it doesn't seem like it though, which definitely I understand and respect the opinions of those on the boards who disagree. Whenever anyone starts out to become a better person things are bound to get ugly, and there is bound to be some resistant and stubborn behavior. It's not easy. There are things about the women that I don't like, but I feel a deep compassion and gratitude for each one of them...for deciding to take control of their lives, for being willing to share this experience with a national audience, for sharing this experience with me, so that we can all learn something from their experiences. That's just my opinion, those are just my feelings. I've never posted on here so I thought I'd share. 
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sharnina 3075 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 00:28 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
And I for one thought you did an outstanding job of expressing yourself without bashing any posters.
Most of us feel the same way you do but I think what we question is the real reasons these women are there. Right now in my opinion, Kim and Bethany seem to be the only ones that are there for reasons beyond their control. Some would disagree with me on Kim and I would understand where they are coming from. While I understand that she had a horrible childhood, there comes a time in everyone's life when they must stand up and take responsibility for today and the rest of their lives. Many of us have done it and didn't have to go on national television to do it. Anyway, welcome to the forum. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.
Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matthew 6:34
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dopeydwarf 185 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 01:42 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
When a new HG comes to the house, I usually like them immediately and wait to hear their story. That's where the compassion comes in. After awhile, when they start being difficult,and do it over and over, is when I start getting disgusted.
This is where I come to vent with my sisters (and a few brothers) over that. That is what this forum is for.
It's okay to get mad. Remember, everyone has problems and could probably use therapy sometime. I'll bet you know a few people whose lives are worse than most of the HGs. You can always be hospitalized if you need therapy. But at the SO house, you get paid while you get therapy. And your dream job that was just a dream before? Just tell the Life Coaches--they'll hook you up.
Let's see--600/week--potential employers taking a personal interest in you---media exposure--not too bad a deal.
I feel bad for Bethany, and sometimes Kim. I love TJ and Jill, and I cried when Lisa2 graduated. ( I had complained about her for awile too, but she overcame her victim status-now I like her.) That's just what you do--you get real mad, and then when and if they grow, you're not mad anymore. Works for me.
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sharnina 3075 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 02:28 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
"What once was a house where women felt led to go to and deal with their most initimate issues..is now hearless!"*snicker, snicker* Did you mean to say fearless, LMDD? What do you think of my new sig? 
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.
Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matthew 6:34
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NicNac 131 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 07:04 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
I guess I don't agree that all of the women are there because they recognize that they have some issues to work on. I truly believe that some of them (think Lisa1) came into the SO house to grab some exposure on a nationally aired TV show. Seems like some of them are just using it to hone up on their acting skills, not to really heal themselves. What I don't understand is - if they truly did come into the house for help with issues in their lives, why are they so resistant to hearing what the LCs are offering them in the way of help?
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SOfan0221 828 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 07:19 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
I agree NicNac, SO seems to have alot of future actress, model, spokesperson, tv talk show wannabes. Too bad they are not rooted out during the interview process so that we can get more women who truly want to change, heal, work on their problems. I think thus far this season Bethany is the most real I have seen. Possibly TJ in that she worked hard to heal her inner self but some of the others oh geez give me a break.
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 07:49 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
I agree with you. Look at Towanda from last year. She wanted to make a name for herself and not live in the shadow of hr sister Toni yet every chance she got she bragged about Toni being her sister. Isn't wanting to make a cd of herself an entertainment aspiration and not working on life issues? Some of the HG are there for legit things like Bethany and Allison (well for a while it was legit)but most have petty things and a few have problems a LC could deal with but most are beyond the need for a LC. Some need to be in intensive psychotherapy. IMO when they start backstabing, gossiping and consistently resisting what the LC's, Dr. Stan and the "experts" say it is time to move them out because they prove they are not interested in changing at all. Some conflict amongst 6 women who live together and some resistance to the process is normal but the way some of the HG behave is ridiculous and uncalled for.
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Bebo 20880 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 08:08 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
One thing that I noticed is that there is a lot of judgement going on about certain HGs and thier actions or failure of actions. They can be seriously frustrating! You know what else is frustrating? When we clearly state in our FAQ that calling other posters is judgmental is not allowed here. Why? Because you're doing the exact same thing you're criticizing others for doing.
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working4aliving 12 desperate attention whore postings
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04-15-06, 02:43 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
I watch the show alone. I know no one else that watches it, probably due to the time of day it airs. Sometimes when there are one of those "can you believe she said/did that" moments, I come here to get other people's view on it. I rarely really post but there's some sort of gratification in knowing that I'm not the only one that was blown away by someone's ridiculousness or the hilarity of a situation.
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Zoey 326 desperate attention whore postings
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04-15-06, 07:32 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Isn't that why they are in the Starting Over House?" |
In regards to getting frustrated at the house-mates:I constantly have to remind myself that the people go into the house with a lifetime of problems they're trying to undo and even though they have alot of help, Rome wasn't built in a day. They resist in the house and probably will, to a point, forever. They just leave with better coping skills then most but they still have to use them AND continue to grow rather than thinking their improvement started and stopped after the SO house. I also think that it's decieving to watch the life coaches. By the way they teach, you would think that they live perfect lives. They seem to have a calm and rational answer for everything. Do you really think they are able to live this way at all times? Rhonda has a nasty streak in her and I can't imagine she lives her life as gracefully as one would expect a life coach to live. Then Iyanla constantly sabatoges people's progress by telling them AFTER an assignment that they could have chosen another option. The HG is trying to do the right thing and she makes them wrong. By her own logic, when Allison decided to jump into the life raft, she should have been praised for thinking "outside the box" (which Allison was probably expecting) but did Iyanla do that? No. Both life coaches come from very dark pasts. I don't expect them to be perfect but I think they are both very manipulative which, on one hand, makes them good at what they do. On the other hand, I think there are still sparks of evil in both of them. Between this and the illusion of perfection in their present lives, I think they add to the idea that improvment is easier than it truly is. Anyway, as frustrating as their lack of progress may be, I think it's much harder to let go of everything you've ever known than we may realize. I agree that it's irritating but I also know from personal experience that it's really hard to make such big changes.
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