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"Week 6 List"
I'll go first because I have to crown a new Queen!

1- Angela: Wow! That interview she recorded for Rachel's exit was simply A.M.A.Z.I.N.G! I wish I had a transcript to relish it once more. I mean, it made me feel sorry for Rachel while making me appreciate a great, cold-blooded player at the same time. I also liked how Angela kept calm when Rachel informed her that Tyler threw her name as a possible replacement nominee while talking with Bayleigh. Winning HoH may not be the smartest way to go but when it came down to her and Angie, she had no choice. If Angela wants to keep possession of her nominations she should get Bayleigh and Haleigh on board of a new women's alliance... at least until it's time to make the nominations.


2- Tyler: My motto for these games is "play with everyone but be against everyone" and rarely I saw it applied as nicely as we saw Tyler this week; he gained Bayleigh's trust as she told us but Tyler confessed that it was only to fool her and she'd be nominated as soon as it was safe. That should have been enough to keep him in first place but Angela's performance totally eclipsed his. Also, Tyler's play this week wasn't quite precise. Winning Veto was too risky but then telling Bayleigh that he's close to Scottie could have backfired. But what bothered me most was his approach to Bayleigh after winning the Veto. I would have told her that I'd do whatever she wanted but I would have asked a leading question: "Wouldn't you love to make a big move? Who would you backdoor?." That's when Scottie's name could have come out.

3- Brett: He's proving to be quite the bombardier and I enjoyed it a lot. Using Bayleigh's secrets just before the vote not only destabalized the other side of the house but it set the stage for Rachel's blindside. He can't continue long like this but if he can escape the block another 8 times or so then he'd have a great case to present to the jury.

4- Kaycee: As an important part of the blindside, she deserves this high spot but she'll need to make her own moves if she wants to really impress.

5- Haleigh: So it seems that she's not with Faysal. That comment she made to Brett had me laughing. I'm not sure I buy it but if she's ready to ditch the big guy then she's more of a player than I thought.

6- Bayleigh: I liked the way she handled her HoH but for few mistakes. Telling Rachel about her App was unnecessary and she should have informed the other women in the house that she wanted to go with all of them to the end. As is, three women voted against that plan.

7- Faysal: Even Julie got it right: Faysal is ALWAYS on the wrong side of the vote even when his side is in charge!

8- Scottie: He's the only one that Angela could sell to Bayleigh as a target. I hope she finds a way to get it done because he's pretty useless.

9- Sam: What business did she have telling everyone who voted for Rachel? This was a round where everyone should have lied using the "I am Saprtacus" strategy: "I voted to evict Brett" they should all have said. But no, Sam had to blab the whole deal to everyone. What a dumb-bass.

10- Angie: If Angela plays it right, she'll reassure Bayleigh that she's safe so the APP won't come into play then I hope she puts up Angie "just as a pawn"!!! Can't stand the cartoon character.

11- JC: The creep thinks he's a mastermind but he's just a pawn in Tyler's game.

Evicted - Rachel: I felt sorry for her. The way her allies dumped her was both hard to watch and enjoyable to witness at the same time. Her biggest mistake was to go off the handle when Bayleigh told her that Tyler mentioned Angela's name as a replacement nominee. But really, it was always going to be better for the game of everyone in the alliance to keep Brett so did she really stand a chance? These games can leave scars so I wish that the right people will take care of Rachel and I hope she comes out of this alright.

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1. "RE: Week 6 List"
Yeah, go first by all means. When I had a break at work I jotted down my rank order so your post did not influence mine. Just end the season now and award the 500K to Tyler. Toss the 50K consolation prize to Sam for her attempt to clean the skank out of the House. The drama culminated with a 6-5 vote. So much for the “peaceful” and harmonious “unity” in the House after Kaitlyn’s non-unanimous eviction.

1) TYLER – Add Bayleigh to the list of HOHs who has eaten out of his hand. The only HOH who didn’t was Scottie. JC’s intentional rogue vote caused Tyler a minor scramble, but he came out of it fine. His masterful gameplay this week may have leveled the gender playing field in the House. Personally, I’ve always regarded Dan (Derrick a close second) as the best who ever played the game. Should Tyler emerge victorious with the first three evictees male HGs, Dan and Derrick may need to step aside. I want to say he’s a slam-dunk for the 25K America’s Choice...but he’s not Asian-American.

2) ANGELA – With two Level 5s on the block she needed to take a stand. She chose wisely. Was a bit harsh on Rachel, especially going by hearsay, but as a non-jury member it won’t come back to haunt her. Solid effort in the HOH comp. Had LoserStar pulled it out, this upcoming week would have been a disaster; so VERY thankful for her win. I also don’t see her riding the same power trip we’ve seen from the past few HOHs.


Why continue? But for the sake of the rank (and of course to get more of a charge out of my main man Michel) I will.


3) BRETT – Stayed pretty grounded and as calm as one could be considering he was on the block for the second consecutive week. He could be looking at three if Bayleigh uses her Pity Power APP. Even so, it was worth the hammer he dropped before the eviction vote exposing Bayleigh’s advantage, the all-girl alliance, and sealing Rachel’s fate.

4) SAM – Taking a bold stand against skanky behavior could have resulted in repercussions had Haleigh or Bayleigh won HOH. Wait a minute...Bayleigh DID win HOH and Sam was never even a consideration. I doubt she’ll be considered this week either. Put it all together and Sam stays in my top half.

5) KAYCEE – Quite arguably in the best position to advance; but not sure it will be a recipe for victory. Too many more proactive players would clean her clock in the Finals. But there’s also a few goats remaining so she’s got some chance.

6) JC – Let me say right now this rank has nothing to do with personal feelings. I still regard him as an irritating annoyance. His rogue vote the prior week and swing vote this week were calculating. It would have been “dumbass” had he informed the others about it, but he did not. He’s in good graces with both factions and still pretty tight with Faysal despite refusing to pay homage to the dumbass. That’s another reason why he’s ranked where he is.

7) BAYLEIGH – Talk about your more obnoxious power trip HOH reigns! Sam last week was Mary Poppins by comparison. Truth be told, King Tyler turned “Queen” Bayleigh into a court jester. With three male HGs out the door, I don’t blame her for trying to get an All-Girl alliance off the ground; but revealing her Pity Power APP to Rachel was a big blunder. Double eviction night would be a great time to use it, but now that the whole House knows coupled with a Level 4 as HOH, she will probably have to burn it this week.

8) SCOTTIE – Even though Brett narc out the “Man-Eaters,” Angela would still be smart to evict another male HGs and spark another shot at an all-girl alliance. If she considers that approach, Scottie would be a prime target. I have to say one of the more humorous moments of the week was the post HOH comp celebration that took place in the Storage Room followed by Bayleigh in the DR asking why the heck Scottie was there?

9) FAYSAL – When Dopey had to decide, he’s yet to be on the right side of a vote this season. So much for his “game.” On a personal note, do yourself a favor...take a long shower to wash the skank off your body and lose Haleigh.

10) LOSER STAR – Like Faysal, has yet to be on the right side of a vote validating her loser status. Although she did perform well in the HOH comp, she thankfully fell short in the end. BTW, (not that it would’ve mattered) 30 x 60 = 1800; not 1200.

11) HALEIGH – When she didn’t have her hands on some male HG, she had her nose up Bayleigh’s butt. We all heard her admit while pawing Brett there’s nothing serious with Faysal. So, the skank session sliming under the covers officially makes her a Reality Show Ho. That may be pleasing to some posters, but to this one it’s as nasty as that growth on her forehead.

PRODUCTION – The bottom feeder goes to Production this week for the nauseating piece on Loser C visiting Bayleigh’s family. Mr. Bayleigh should have “stopped the bleeding” immediately when Loser C announced he has two brothers while Mr B’s two other daughters were sitting there. If I was the father, I would have nipped it in the bud and physically tossed his sorry ass out on the curb.

EVICTED

RACHEL – I must honestly say I had high hopes for her, but after the dust settled I agree with the eviction. Rachel would have been the Bitterest of ALL Bettys had she made Jury.

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2. "RE: Week 6 List"
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-18 AT 12:52 PM (EST)

Proving time and again that you don't understand my point of view doesn't get a charge out of me, it disappoints me.

Take this weird comment: "The drama culminated with a 6-5 vote. So much for the “peaceful” and harmonious “unity” in the House after Kaitlyn’s non-unanimous eviction."

I was talking about Scottie's HoH which was nearly three weeks ago now. I said that HE at THAT moment should have strived to get a unanimous vote to stay under the radar. He failed miserably by going for the big move instead. So of course the division got exposed back then and Sam's HoH couldn't repair the fracture but she certainly profited by going for the people's choice eviction. And the funny thing is that I have your own words to back my point of view yet I KNOW you'll still won't agree.
Here's what you wrote:
- "Scottie would be a prime target."
and
- "Sam was never even a consideration."

Had Scottie done what Sam did then he wouldn't be a consideration either. Tyler would see him as his puppet so he'd protect him.

It takes two to tango and Faysal was right there with Haleigh. I'll even say that it was a much smarter game move for Haleigh because she received info and isn't really on anyone's radar. Faysal is completely out of the loop and an eventual target for sure.

I'll always appreciate it when reality TV shows a bit of real feelings, not scripted ones, and being randy is certainly a real feeling. Survivor probably never works if not for the Colleen-Greg showmance and their escapades in the jungle which tantalized millions of viewers. So give us a show I say and even if it's under the covers, it can be funny to watch!! Don't worry; SeeBS is extremely puritanical so you won't see anything X-rated.

I do like a couple of your comments though:

- Scottie being unaware that he wasn't really part of Bayleigh's alliance. Yes that was hilarious seeing him dancing with them and then hearing the HoH saying she didn't know what he was doing there. Tyler may have missed the winning move when he didn't suggest backdooring him. Bayleigh may have bought it.

- Ranking Production last for that useless show of Chris meeting the family. I should have done the same but then I always rank production last...

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4. "RE: Week 6 List"
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What is REALLY proven time and time again is how you deliberately muddy the water with your spin to cloud up what I’ve been saying ALL along. The House has been fractured with no unity and will never be unified despite any of your proposals be it a Kaitlyn eviction or anything else. I have never deviated from that fact despite all your attempts to suggest otherwise.

Mere coincidence a HG from the other faction (Scottie) puts up TWO Level 6s? More coincidence that a NON-Level 5 (Bayleigh) uses BOTH of her nominations on the opposite side of the House (Level 5)...and would have used yet a THIRD nom from the other faction (Level 5) had Tyler used his Veto? And I’ll say this now...I’ll eat my hat tonight if the Level 4 HOH (Angela) does NOT nominate any two of the five who voted to evict Brett.

You’re still in Mamby-Pamby Land if you think Sam nominated Kaitlyn because she was a “people’s choice eviction.” LOL! She made it clear as crystal why she nominated Kaitlyn (and Haleigh.) To get the Skank out of the House. Speaking of skank, it is a shame you appear unable to separate “real feelings” from feeling someone up...or down.
Jeff and Jordon displayed “real feelings” for each other during their first season. She was the polar opposite of a skanky Ho even though she had “real feelings” for Jeff. And Jeff’s “feelings” for Jordon were so “real” he respected that choice. They didn’t have to slime under the sheets to eventually marry and start a family.

Haleigh, in a major contrast, hops in the sack with some Dumbo she just recently met on prime-time TV voyeuring to millions of viewers. Someone she openly admitted to not having genuine “real feelings” for. If it’s a “show” you and other viewers want, you can go onto something quite accessible called the “Internet” and click the button that says, “I’m Over 18” where you can enjoy your “shows” until your heart (and other parts) are content.

I do agree with your statement that “it takes two to tango.” Actually, I agree with it so much allow me to repost what I stated when I initially sung Sam’s praises...
“What would be great is if it’s followed up with a male HOH holding similar types of boys (Faysal) accountable for their voyeur behavior as well.”
The difference is Faysal DOES have “real feelings” for the Reality Show Ho. But I still do not agree with his slimy, horndog behavior and should be accountable as well.

Yes, I will always rank Production on the bottom also...it’s just this past week we had added incentive, i.e. the nauseating Loser C piece.

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7. "RE: Week 6 List"
For the millionth time, I neve rsaid the house was united; what i said is that Scottie could have had an easy HoH by going for someone the house could have voted unanimously against. Now, I'll be proven right if Scottie gets nominated by Angela.

I can certainly find XXX-rated vids on the internet but that doesn't mean a little show on reality TV isn't enjoyable also.

Sex is an important interaction between humans so I don't mind Haleigh or anyone else using it either as game play or as physical release. Haleigh is certainly not the first nor the last to hop "in the sack with some Dumbo she just recently met". Why care about it? It's her life so I say "live and let live".

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9. "RE: Week 6 List"
For the umpteenth time...it’s not sex as a “human interaction” I’m opposed to. It’s voyeuring out the skank to millions of primetime viewers I’m primarily criticizing. Did I not say in a prior post as long as a person is comfortable in their own skin and is not ashamed or embarrassed by their actions and/or decisions, God bless them?

Well regardless what you and I personally feel on the matter it is clearly obvious the way Haleigh (and Kaitlyn) were crying and carrying on after Sam accurately called them out, that certainly was NOT the case.

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12. "RE: Week 6 List"
I'm sorry that you are easily made uncomfortable by women flirting and making out but I think a majority of the millions of viewers rather enjoy it. It adds a little spice to otherwise boring episodes.

NO ONE was ever been more comfortable in her own skin and not ashamed or embarrassed by her actions and/or decisions than Parvati yet she's been the biggest target of your hatred.


Angie wasn't outed by anyone yet she's crying ALL the freakin' time. It's another natural reaction to being nominated, nothing more.

PS. Is voyeur a verb? I've never seen that use before.

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15. "RE: Week 6 List"
It has nothing to do with my “comfort” level; it is more about disappointment. Disappointing that some girls feel the need to freely and willingly skank out their bodies and many end up crying and wailing over how shameful and embarrassed they are for themselves and the people they are close.to.

All your spin will not twist the reason Haleigh and Kaitlyn were carrying on. Sure, they were put up on the block, but were quite explicit and VERY clear their reactions were directly related to how Sam accurately called them out. Only a Spin Doctor like you would say is was due to being nominated, “nothing more.”

LoserStar cries all the time because she’s a casting debacle who needs therapy. I have not seen a more psychotic mom on TV since Faye Dunaway portrayed Joan Crawford in “Mommie Dearest.” Actually, if Brett (and anyone else in the House for that matter) wants to get LoserStar to self-evict, they might want to consider putting her clothes on metal hangers.

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18. "RE: Week 6 List"
Don't pretend to be someone you're not. I've got you pegged as someone who feels sex should be between a man and a woman and they better be married, engaged or close to it!! Your reaction to Parvati proved it time and again. So, don't give me the disappointed in girls who feel embarrassed by their actions. Anyway, if they embarrass themselves what is it to you? If they feel they made a mistake, (which I doubt) then they'll learn from it. No harm, no foul I say.

I get your comment about Angie, I'll simply correct myself and say they are not the first to cry when put on the block. I even remember seeing some guys crying. I am lost with the metal hangers reference though. What do you mean by that?

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21. "RE: Week 6 List"
LMAO...Yeah, you know me as well as you know the country I’ve lived in my whole life...and that’s not very well on both counts. By saying you think I feel sex should only be between “married, engaged, or close to it” confirms beyond a shadow of a doubt you’re talking out of your backend and do not know me at all.

For the record, I could care less how serious, how long, or how committed a relationship is for two people to have sex. Furthermore, I could care less to know BECAUSE IT’S NO ONE ELSE’S BUSINESS OTHER THAN THE TWO ENGAGING IN THE ACT SO LONG AS THEY KEEP IT A PERSONAL MATTER. The HGs who skank in the BB House do NOT keep it a “personal” matter by voyuering their horny behavior to millions of viewers. What’s it to me? What’s anything to anyone who expresses disagreement over something. You’ve expressed disappointment and disagreement over numerous things on these Boards. We’ve all done it and we’ll all continue to do so. You stated “you think a majority of the millions rather enjoy it.” Really? You think? Oh yeah...such a majority of viewers are following it, that’s why Haleigh earned a crap APP by being the LEAST TRENDING! LMAO!! Seems to me you know the “majority of viewers” about as well as you know me and the USA...

I’m not saying anyone “made a mistake.” They are who they are. Kaitlyn and Haleigh were understandably embarrassed and ashamed over millions of viewers NOW seeing them and having a HOH call them out for who they are. Their crying and carrying on verified that.

How many times do I need to keep saying the format of Survivor is such that a skank like Perv-ati is much less likely to slime under the covers and engage in the same physical extracurriculars we see the horndogs do on BB?

When the subject of psychotic moms with mental issues is mentioned the “metal wire hangers” scene in the movie “Mommie Dearest” has been often referred to. Just google “wire hangers” & “mommie dearest” and many images and Utubes will pop up. The nighttime facial makeup mask Faye Dunaway is wearing when doing the scene is SOOO LoserStar...along with the rambunctious carrying-on.

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24. "RE: Week 6 List"
What a cop-out: So for you it's "don't ask don't tell" a policy that has been totally discredited. I prefer honesty and if they want to frolick under the covers, I don't mind at all. Have fun with it, I say.

Thanks for the clarification though. I've never watched "Mommie dearest".

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27. "RE: Week 6 List"
Your ignorant and inaccurate “cop-out” assessment you threw my way further manifests how little you know about me. To stand by what I personally endorse is enough for me. It’s an added bonus when the week 4 HOH supports that same endorsement AND the skanky behavior displayed by Reality Show Ho Haleigh and horny toad Faysal BOTH understandably getting crap APPS for LEAST Trending serves as an additional validation.
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29. "RE: Week 6 List"
By the way, you're always getting it wrong. What Sam clearly said wasn't that she disapproved of the girls' "skanky behavior" but that they were disrespecting the young men of the House.

Coming from such an hypocrite, that clearly meant she wanted to guys to pay attention to her who respected them instead of the girls that were flirting with them. I don't think Brett or Faysal ever felt disrepected so Sam was wrong just like you are.

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32. "RE: Week 6 List"
So now, not surprisingly, you opt to be fixated on only a few hand-picked words from Sam’s epic nomination speech. Sure, she noted “respect” when she mentioned “young men,” but she said a heckava lot more than that.

She started off focusing on “treatment” and the behavior of the skanky HGs. When she did get to the respect part, she specifically stated respecting THEMSELVES along with the “young men.” Speaking of young men, you say Faysal didn’t seem bothered/disrespected...Faysal sure appeared bothered to me when the Skanky Ho was petting and stroking Brett on the hammock for hours while telling Brett there’s nothing serious with the guy she’s been hanky-pankying under the covers with.

I’ll reiterate...the way Kaitlyn and Haleigh carried on afterwards attests to the disrespect they were feeling for themselves as a result of being called out by Sam. As much as you want to theorize they were reacting to being nominated, one of them in the DR right after nominations said flat-out she was NOT carrying on because of being nominated or on the block. I see some crow left on your plate. Eat up!

Also, in the DR afterwards, Sam elaborated on the behavior. Granted she did not specifically use the word “skank,” but she was pretty much describing it. She also appropriately stated it is a CHEAP and easy way to play the game. YOU GO, GIRL!!

Sam is not sliming under the sheets and partaking in sexual behavior with the male HGs, thus your inaccurate eagerness to define “hypocrite” is an irrelevant as your inability to define “turncoat.”

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8. "RE: Week 6 List"

>...I’ll eat my
>hat tonight if the Level
>4 HOH (Angela) does NOT
>nominate any two of the
>five who voted to evict
>Brett.


Happy to say Aruba's hat collection remains intact!


ALLLLLL RIIIISE!!


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11. "RE: Week 6 List"
Scottie got nominated as a direct consequence of his "big Move" so you really should have one hat less!!
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14. "RE: Week 6 List"
Scottie got nominated because he is associated with the “other” side of the House. Due to Bayleigh’s Pity Power APP, Angela smartly did not consider her for the initial nominations. It actually would have made more sense to nominate Scottie and Faysal since both have won more than one comp at this stage of the game. But I can see the rationale of putting up the horny toads together at the next opportunity...so Scottie and LoserStar were the obvious picks...regardless of Winston’s eviction.
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19. "RE: Week 6 List"
Aruba wrote:

"Scottie got nominated because he is associated with the “other” side of the House..."

Thank you very much for making my point. Scottie is associated with the other side of the house ONLY because of his nominations.

In French we write: CQFD but I still feel the need to add: Like you aptly wrote when commenting about Baileigh, Scottie isn't really with the other side of the house either. He's just a dumb-bass.

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20. "RE: Week 6 List"
The Level 4 side of the House DOES consider Scottie part of the “other” side. They always have because he was NEVER a consideration for inclusion in their alliance right from the get go WAY before his HOH nominations. Yes, Bayleigh INDIVIDUALLY is not as receptive to Scottie because she’s still unhappy over Scottie casting his vote to evict the guy she was skanking out with. But she does not speak for the rest of the non-Level 4 side...proven by Haleigh who removed Scottie from the block. My point proven yet again!

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23. "RE: Week 6 List"
With three posts to answer where should I begin? I'll start here since this is our longest standing disagreement and it's useless to continue it since the game has moved along since Scottie's HoH.

But that's just it: It"s funny that you talk about timing in your post about Rachel and you get it all wrong here. We have to go back to when Scottie won HoH and, AT THAT TIME, Brett and Winston thought he was a floater so they offered him a Final 3 deal to stay safe. WE clearly heard both say that Scottie could bite so that proved they thought he was a free agent. AT THAT TIME also, Scottie considered Tyler as an ally while Tyler saw him as a puppet so had Scottie agreed (honestly or not) to the Bros' offer and if Scottie had asked tyler for his idea about the nominations, he would NOT have become Level 6's number one target.

This subject is over and done with so I won't be responding anymore.

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26. "RE: Week 6 List"
It’s smart of you to not respond anymore on the subject...why fall deeper in the hole?

As early as the first week in the House, Level 6 clearly shut Scottie out of their alliance, and shortly thereafter he was walking around the House wearing a “Swaggy” T-Shirt. Anyone with a set of eyes could see that obvious division split and who was on each side of the House. This was BEFORE Scottie was HOH.

Of course, in a last ditch effort of desperation, Brett/Winston tried to pitch a F3 deal with the HOH and POV winner. Scottie cleverly did not bite seeing through their desperate plea knowing there was no way they’d be sincere to the end.

Although I suspect a shift may occur this week thanks to Haleigh’s dumb approach. Putting a master player like Tyler on the block is a savvy move, but to make Scottie out as the Hacker could backfire for her and her side of the House. Scottie already has determined the Hacker is trying to pin it on him...he said so on Sunday. He also has to realize NO WAY anyone from the Level 4 side would put up Tyler. Conclusion: One of his own (from the side of the House he considers aligned with) is attempting to lay the rap on him. This has to be a red flag for him that perhaps he’s not as close with that side of the House as he thought. And guess what: the Level 4 side would be more than willing to accept him with open arms as another number for THEM.

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31. "RE: Week 6 List"
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3. "The Assassin"
While I've watched every scene of Survivor multiple times to get the quotes as accurately as possible, I've never felt the need to rewatch an episode of Big Brother, that is until now. The beautiful pole vaulter cleared the bar and landed in my list of favorite players of all times.

Here is Angela's killer speech in all its glory:

"Rachel, Rachel, just a few bullet points to go over here:
- First, you talked yourself onto the block.
- You lied to my face and your stories make no sense.
Our final two deal is about as irrelevant as you were week 2.
I'm sorry Rachel but you're going home."

And to think Aruba would not want Rachel to be bitter! When you screw an ally so royally, you have to expect bitterness but, wisely, Angela was talking to a non-juror.

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5. "The Bitter Betty"
Thanks for sharing. It definitely deserves a spot in the “Good-Bye Messages Hall of Fame.”
Although, I do believe we would have never enjoyed it if Rachel left the BB House to take residence in the Jury House.

I can understand bitterness if someone flat out lies to intentionally smear someone’s image on a personal level by using fabricated fallacies as a direct hit. Angela’s message did not qualify as such. If you go down her “bullet points” and “check” each one off, Angela was spot on.

My favorite is, “Our final two deal is about as irrelevant as you were week 2.” Obvious reference to being the “Least Trending” in the APP Store coupled with other F2 deals Rachel had.

Would Aruba expect Rachel to be disappointed? Without question...but she need not look any further than her reflection in the mirror for the source of that “disappointment.” On the other hand, reacting adversely to someone who is pretty much conveying, “you are...who you are...who you are...” is being a sore-losing, belly-aching, disgruntled Bitter Betty...plain and simple.

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6. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
The "lied to my face" wasn't accurate though so it is a lot like smearing someone's image. Angela was referring to Rachel's info that Tyler named her as a possible replacement nominee which he did. He never used that Veto so the replacement nominee became a moot point but Angela mistook that for Tyler being true to her.

Angela and Rachel had a Final 2 deal. There's no question that Angela screwed Rachel royally so Rachel would have had EVERY RIGHT to screw Angela in the return if she had been a juror. You call it bitterness, I call it keeping people accountable for their actions. I've been part of many on-line juries and that's what jurors talk about; Keeping people accountable for their actions.

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10. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
When you make a F2 deal with someone it better be exclusive because if that person you made the deal with comes to find out you made similar deals with OTHER HGs, that’s pretty much putting a BB bullet through your own head. It came to Angela’s attention that Rachel’s F2 deal with her was not exclusive. I regard that as being dishonest to one’s face. Angela’s reaction was understandable AND accurate.

Just another sad and hypocritical example of...if I’M being dishonest it’s all gameplay; that’s Big Brother. But God forbid is someone else does that to ME...HOW DARE THEY?...Let me be a hypocritical Bitter Betty! *snort*

Furthermore, that interaction between Tyler and Bayleigh got twisted. Tyler was fishing and dropped Angela’s name in hopes that maybe, just maybe, Bayleigh would say NO to Angela and get her into telling him if the Veto was used she would replace the Nom with maybe a non-Level 5 member. That would have tipped the scale to the Veto being used and rally the troops to evict that replacement keeping the “5” in Level 5. Consequently, Bayleigh did not hesitate for even a nanosecond by confirming Angela would be the replacement supporting the obvious division in the House. Mission accomplished by Tyler playing Bayleigh like a finely-tuned instrument to get the information he needed. Bayleigh, who had no idea the game master was playing her, interpreted Tyler’s “fishing expedition” as throwing Angela under the bus.

Angela did not have to “mistake” anything...once Tyler cleared the air with her commonsense prevailed.

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13. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
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It's funny that you're trying to defend Angela's actions to me. I named her queen, remember? I think your moral compass has been knocked off mark so you're trying to justify Angela's actions by painting a terrible picture of Rachel.

When did Angela became aware that Rachel's F2 wasn't genuine. It's all your imagination because from what we saw Rachel was committed to Angela. Anyway, Rahel didn't screw Angela, it was the other way around so, from Rachel's POV she wasn't being dishonest and she wasn't playing Angela,

Anyway, don't try to tell me how it would be making multiple F2 deals because you'd never even dare trying it!

You are right about Tyler's fishing expedition but he did throw Angela's name out and Rachel heard about it so she went to her F2 partner with the warning. Anyway, do you think Tyler would worry a second about Angela if it came to it?

Angela screwed Rachel, I loved it and would have done the same but I would NEVER count on Rachel's vote if she had made jury. I'd expect her to take it out on me so it would be up to ME to gain enough votes despite losing that one.

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16. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
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I’m not painting Angela as an angel here. I said in my assessments she was harsh and some of it was based on hearsay. It’s not even “defending;” it’s agreeing with what she said in her message.

Angela became aware her F2 pact with Rachel was “not genuine” when she sorted out the information that came to her over the course of the week and made enough of a determination that it was “irrelevant.” Angela simply beat Rachel to the punch...and now Rachel is a Bitter Betty.

What’s more funny than your erroneous statement of me “defending “Angela is YOU actually “feeling sorry” for Rachel. I’d really like to know who put a gun to Rachel’s head and forced her to play the game??? She knew GOSH DARN well what she signed up for...lying, deceit, backstabbing, and harsh treatment. I’ll tell you who I feel MORE sorry for...the THOUSANDS of applicants who would have played within the spirit of the game (and if evicted) exited within the spirit of the game BECAUSE THEY WERE KEENLY AWARE OF WHAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR! But they were deprived of their opportunity because their spot was taken up by a sore loser.

Sore losers and Bitter Betty’s get no pity from me.

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17. "RE: The Bitter Betty"

>I’m not painting Angela as an
>angel here. I said in
>my assessments she was harsh
>and some of it was
>based on hearsay. It’s not
>even “defending;” it’s agreeing with
>what she said in her
>message.

I'm saying you don't have to sell Angela to me.

>Angela became aware her F2 pact
>with Rachel was “not genuine”
>when she sorted out the
>information that came to her
>over the course of the
>week and made enough of
>a determination that it was
>“irrelevant.” Angela simply beat Rachel
>to the punch...and now Rachel
>is a Bitter Betty.

False. When Julie pointed out that Rachel went to Angela directly after learning about Baileigh APP, Rachel answered: "Yes, because she was my Final 2." For Rachel it was genuine.

>What’s more funny than your erroneous
>statement of me “defending “Angela
>is YOU actually “feeling sorry”
>for Rachel. I’d really like
>to know who put a
>gun to Rachel’s head and
>forced her to play the
>game??? She knew GOSH DARN
>well what she signed up
>for...lying, deceit, backstabbing, and harsh
>treatment. I’ll tell you who
>I feel MORE sorry for...the
>THOUSANDS of applicants who would
>have played within the spirit
>of the game (and if
>evicted) exited within the spirit
>of the game BECAUSE THEY
>WERE KEENLY AWARE OF WHAT
>THEY SIGNED UP FOR! But
>they were deprived of their
>opportunity because their spot was
>taken up by a sore
>loser.
>
>Sore losers and Bitter Betty’s get
>no pity from me.


So, you're a turncoat. Just before this week this is what you had to write about Rachel: "3) RACHEL – Finished runner-up in the last THREE competitions. And her social game has picked up as well. This Las Vegas gal came to play. And oh BTW, she continues to be so darn nice to look at."

I think Rachel was an above average casting choice and, like you, I liked her a lot. I won't turn my back on her as fast as you did however. I completely understand the shock she felt at being double-crossed like this. I'd even give her the benefit of the doubrt and suggest that, given time and a good explanation, she could actually pull for Angela before this is over. I wrote "could" so please don't take it as a guarantee.

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22. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
OK, and it was never my intent to “sell” Angela to you.

What I said is Angela sorted out the information that came to her and made a wise determination to ditch Rachel and keep Brett. Rachel did herself no favors by handling her nomination poorly as a total contrast to Brett who dealt with the same challenge quite well. Angela’s remarks were in line with the information she had.

Well DUHHH...how did you expect Rachel to answer Julie’s question. You think she would “genuinely” and honestly own up to being a stupid dumbass by immediately narcing out the HOH of the House right after swearing secrecy to her?! LOL Naturally she was going to backpedal with an answer to put herself in a positive light to salvage whatever self-preservation she could muster.

Your twisted interpretation of “turncoat” continues to be senseless. The praises that came Rachels way were deserving AT THAT TIME. How she handled the week on the block and her ultimate eviction warranted an appropriate bash. During the first month of the MLB season the reporters and sports media were reporting the NY Mets as the best team in the League. And based on their record out of the gate, that’s exactly what they were. Now, they are among the worst teams in the League and those SAME reporters and media are appropriately reporting them poorly as they are today. According to your twisted logic they are all “turncoats” because of contrasting but accurate assessments of the SAME team during two DIFFERENT points in time. Such was my two different assessments of Rachel. Only a twisted Spin Doctor would regard that as “turncoat.”

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25. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
You really make strange sports analogies, comparing an individual to a team. The Mets were good but anyone analysing their performances today has to mention the injuries that played a role in their demise.

For Rachel, there were no injuries but the events around her certainly changed enough to create a serious shock reaction. You flip-flopped 180 degrees in your appreciation of her but I rather blame this evil game than the person.

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28. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
Sure, when Rachel was not at risk of being evicted the first four weeks, her demeanor and game warranted a favorable assessment. Yet, I’ve always been steadfast in my belief you get a complete picture of an individual when the chips are down. And we saw it this past week with sore-losing, sour-grapes Rachel. Bitterness oozed out of Rachels’ pores the second Julie announced the voting results by how she stormed out of the House...even BEFORE any of the good-bye messages were shown, Angela’s being the last one.

My analogies are on the mark. The reason you regard them as “strange” is because they fully support my statements, while at the same time, harpoon your deliberate and feeble attempts to contradict. When you consider the MILLIONS of dollars professional athletes make, if your team has injuries the next man must step up and the other starters may need to kick it up a notch to compensate for the loss.

You being an NFL fan, it’s comical you would even attempt to bring up injuries when you consider the current Superbowl Champion. Philadelphia *cough* Carson Wentz *cough* * cough* Nick Foles *cough* *cough* *cough*

ALLLLLL RIIIIIISE!!
CASE DISMISSED!!!

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30. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
Yes, the Eagles had a well prepared team to carry on when injuries came along but the Mets weren't. One exception doesn't change a rule that injuries can mess any team's best plans. An individual game is COMPLETELY different so comparing your reaction to Rachel to the journalists reaction to the Mets is ridiculous.

You don't even HAVE a case!!

Rachel made mistakes when she was on the block but she bahaved with dignity up until the votes were read. Shock can do strange things to people and I forgive her since she was a good player. Your flip-flopping is rather funny but not unexpected.

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33. "RE: The Bitter Betty"
Whereas, the Eagles are the most recent example, many more exist. As a “Metropolitan” resident, I recall All-Pro Phil Sims going down for the year around the same time in the season Wentz did. An unknown player (Jeff Hostettler) quarterbacked the Giants to a Superbowl championship. The most recent back-to-back Stanley Cup champions Pittsburgh Penguins were decimated with injuries. All-Star defensemen Kris Letang missed an entire post-season. Their blueliners were down to 3rd and 4th string defensemen on the depth chart and STILL were able to hoist the Cup two years in a row! No question injuries “mess” with a team’s dynamics. Which goes back to my initial statement that complete character of an individual (team) becomes prevalent when the “chips are down.”

I’ll discuss Rachel’s bitterness and sore-losing attitude, but I’m not going to entertain any nonsense about being “shocked.” She should know DARN well what goes on in a BB House and what to expect. What’s next...you’re going to tell me Rachel’s casting was from a scene in Hangover III with John Goodman’s henchmen wearing pig faces running Rachel off the side of the road, abducting her, putting a sack over her head, dragging her to CBS Studios, and threw her in the BB House against her will? ROFLMAO!!

You’ve eaten all the crow you can handle for this week. Aruba will now place his toque on the shelf to watch tonight’s episode officially ending this thread and kick-starting a new week. He will appropriately place it back on his head for the next ranking thread to continue our banter.

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