The Amazing Race   American Idol   The Apprentice   The Bachelor   The Bachelorette   Big Brother   The Biggest Loser
Dancing with the Stars   So You Think You Can Dance   Survivor   Top Model   The Voice   The X Factor       Reality TV World
   
Reality TV World Message Board Forums
PLEASE NOTE: The Reality TV World Message Boards are filled with desperate attention-seekers pretending to be one big happy PG/PG13-rated family. Don't be fooled. Trying to get everyone to agree with you is like herding cats, but intolerance for other viewpoints is NOT welcome and respect for other posters IS required at all times. Jump in and play, and you'll soon find out how easy it is to fit in, but save your drama for your mama. All members are encouraged to read the complete guidelines. As entertainment critic Roger Ebert once said, "If you disagree with something I write, tell me so, argue with me, correct me--but don't tell me to shut up. That's not the American way."
"Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
Email this topic to a friend
Printer-friendly version of this topic
Bookmark this topic (Registered users only)
 
Previous Topic | Next Topic 
Conferences Hell's Kitchen Forum (Protected)
Original message

probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-14-05, 06:15 AM (EST)
Click to EMail probably%20clueless Click to send private message to probably%20clueless Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
"Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
So we’re coming up on week 4 with the teams now evenly split 4/4 after we lost 2 more lightweights. (Thanks for the heads-up on that Vols!) Did they recruit for this show from Denny’s?

I thought I did a pretty good job of speculating up through week 5 and how a final decision might be made. The Fox web site indicates there are 10 shows scheduled. That leaves 8 contestants and 7 shows. Eliminate one ‘cook’ per week and at week 10 you have the 2 finalists. The numbers work, the script doesn’t.

We got what I was hoping for in week three: more face time with the Blue team. Pretty much as I predicted, a ‘star’ from the Blue team went Red and we established a new leader on Blue with Ralph. I never get these things right but I’m staying with my previous call on the strong 3 finalists and can now assign names: Chris, Michael and Ralph. If you’re the betting kind, bet the mortgage on anyone other then those 3.

Not that I’m suspicious of Fox’s editing, but can Mary Ellen (who I would do in the meat locker in a NY minute) present a real challenge to Chris, Michael or Ralph?

I thought the 10 minute $100 challenge was excellent and hope they incorporate a few more of those type of tests in future episodes. Each person being responsible for a course for a single knowledgeable diner worked for me. The ‘food critics’ segment in the second half just seemed too staged. I’m glad those babes were able to get some face on national TV though.

I don’t have HDTV so I can’t confirm but I know from just watching these nitwits try to serve 50 people per team each night has to be giving Chef a few more premature gray hairs then he expected when he originally signed the contract to do this show. Based on the current menu and the dead weight gone, 100 may still be doable this week and actually work. The previews of week 4 seem to indicate that something good actually happens to someone (I missed seeing who?). Using the same criteria in week 5 though when one team has 3 is just stupid restaurant management. Someone will make that point to Ramsay, not that he hasn’t planned that already.

My week 4 prediction is that friction between Chris and Michael will cause the Red team to screw up. Although one will likely be on the chopping block I doubt either will leave. I suspect that on Blue, Andrew will acquiesce to Ralph and stay under the radar until a week 5 explosion.

Week 5. 3 Red, 4 Blue. Since there probably aren’t that many boxes of wine left in the ‘cellar’ for comps they need to start seriously cutting back on the number of guests not served each night. I think the circus is over for a few shows and they focus more on individual capabilities.

Running a restaurant is not like playing Survivor. You don’t just walk up to an oboe and blow an A440 and you don’t perfectly fillet a dolphin by reading a website. Someone on Blue other than Ralph or Andrew (in spite of im/explosion for ratings sake) doesn’t cut it and we go to week 6 even at 3/3.

Week 6. No more set menu. Flair or flunk.

Up to this point I’ve agreed with Ramsay’s elimination decisions since none have actually mattered. However, if Mary Ellen goes this week it will be my last speculation thread. (Don’t all cry at once.) The test for the series will be how many weeks it can survive on the subjective decision of one person.

There were very few of us posting to the HELL thread this week, perhaps indicative of the ratings. Pun intended, something spicy is going to have to happen in week 4 if Fox expects any ratings in week 5.

I’ll tack this on the end of this post, probably of least interest but most importance, you have to sell what you buy for more then it costs. Its not as easy as it looks.

A Kittyloaf®Original
*Hands out scapels*

  Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

  Table of Contents

  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... volsfan 06-14-05 1
 RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... HistoryDetective 06-14-05 2
   RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... volsfan 06-14-05 5
 RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... seahorse 06-14-05 3
   RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... Silvergirl1 06-14-05 4
   RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... volsfan 06-14-05 6
 RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... universityofkentuckyrocks 06-14-05 7
   RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... volsfan 06-14-05 8
       RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... universityofkentuckyrocks 06-18-05 9
           RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... volsfan 06-18-05 10
               RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... Draco Malfoy 06-21-05 17
 RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... brvnkrz 06-18-05 11
   RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... volsfan 06-20-05 12
       RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... tamarama 06-20-05 13
           8162 Melrose Ave? volsfan 06-20-05 14
               Or? volsfan 06-20-05 15
 RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week... universityofkentuckyrocks 06-20-05 16

Lobby | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

Messages in this topic

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-14-05, 07:37 AM (EST)
Click to EMail volsfan Click to send private message to volsfan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
1. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
Using the same criteria in week 5 though when one team has 3 is just stupid restaurant management. Someone will make that point to Ramsay, not that he hasn’t planned that already.

I think the whole concept of opening a restaurant the first day you bring 12 total strangers together is idiotic. I don't care if you have 12 culinary educated peeps...there needs to be more time in getting the kitchen in order. IMHO.

Also, I would think that the kichen would have difficulities running with 4 peeps and things may change this coming episode.

I dunno...just throwing something out there.

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-14-05, 09:38 AM (EST)
Click to EMail HistoryDetective Click to send private message to HistoryDetective Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
2. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
I watched the show for the very first time last night, mostly out of boredom.

I think that it is accurately named. I used to think that hell was a daycare center, but now I have a suspicion it might be working with Ramsey and his coterie of asshats.

My prediction: gunfire in the kitchen.


courtesy of Seana and Syren - thanks gals!

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-14-05, 01:51 PM (EST)
Click to EMail volsfan Click to send private message to volsfan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
5. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
The sad part? Ramsay was more likeable lastnight than the previous shows. He was just a bastard before.


Handcrafted by RollDdice

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

seahorse 14337 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-14-05, 12:23 PM (EST)
Click to EMail seahorse Click to send private message to seahorse Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
3. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
One thing about this show is that it is pretty obvious who will be around near the end and who will be gone. If you are a good chef one day, you will also, be good the next day. If you are not a good chef one day, you will not be a good chef the next day either.

As more and more peeps are removed the amount of people being served will also have to be reduced. How many guest can a single chef cook for and serve in a couple hours period of time.


Handcrafted by RollDdice

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Silvergirl1 9320 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-14-05, 01:13 PM (EST)
Click to EMail Silvergirl1 Click to send private message to Silvergirl1 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
4. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"

I think that at some point, they will have to change the kitchen setup to one where the remaining contestants are in charge of others who are doing the cooking, because the restaurant owner will do this ultimately. I'm not sure if Chef Ramsey actually does any of the cooking in his many restaurants around the world. He says he has a terrific staff that takes care of it.

Silvergirl

Life is Good!

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-14-05, 01:53 PM (EST)
Click to EMail volsfan Click to send private message to volsfan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
6. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
If you are a good chef one day, you will also, be good the next day. If you are not a good chef one day, you will not be a good chef the next day either.

I agree with on this except you can have a good chef make bad decisions with the food served. (i.e. the grilled white peaches with steak) I cringed when this was even mentioned and it doesn't even sound appealing to me.


Handcrafted by RollDdice

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

universityofkentuckyrocks 2572 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"

06-14-05, 02:24 PM (EST)
Click to EMail universityofkentuckyrocks Click to send private message to universityofkentuckyrocks Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
7. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
LAST EDITED ON 06-18-05 AT 01:41 AM (EST)

I think the editing is a little unfair and I would say yes Mary Ellen will present a challenge to Chris, Michael and Ralph. I'm hoping she wins. I think thats your obvious final 4. They have yet to screw up.

ETA: for my sig

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-14-05, 04:35 PM (EST)
Click to EMail volsfan Click to send private message to volsfan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
8. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
What part of the editing is unfair?


Handcrafted by RollDdice

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

universityofkentuckyrocks 2572 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"

06-18-05, 01:41 AM (EST)
Click to EMail universityofkentuckyrocks Click to send private message to universityofkentuckyrocks Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
9. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
Well Vols it seems to me that they never show what Mary Ellen is doing. They showed her one time and it was because it was a bad dish. Another thing is that remember when theysaid Mary Ellen did half of the dishes on her own a couple of weeks ago (can't remember what episode). I just think she's doing a lot more than what the editing is showing. But Vols we will never know the truth. I might be wrong!

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-18-05, 08:30 AM (EST)
Click to EMail volsfan Click to send private message to volsfan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
10. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
Well, keep in mind we can't be shown everything. However, many times the editing (early on) for these shows will tell us a story of the people that doesn't make it far in the show. Sometimes we get long term story lines of the peeps that go far. So, I think Mary Ellen may be one of those that go deep into the show and her story line will play a role later on. I do understand though at times we get some people that get booted without ever having a story line (those tend to be the ones that are just boring).

Also, keep in mind that showing Mary Ellen washing dishes may not be as much of a story as Jeff passing a kidney stone. The editing has to advance the story rather than showing us everything that happens.

The only way I can say editing is unfair is that it is unfair to us for not giving us the entire picture. The editing isn't unfair to the competition. IMHO.


Handcrafted by RollDdice

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Draco Malfoy 10525 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-21-05, 07:35 AM (EST)
Click to EMail Draco%20Malfoy Click to send private message to Draco%20Malfoy Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
17. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
>Well, keep in mind we can't
>be shown everything. However, many
>times the editing (early on)
>for these shows will tell
>us a story of the
>people that doesn't make it
>far in the show. Sometimes
>we get long term story
>lines of the peeps that
>go far. So, I think
>Mary Ellen may be one
>of those that go deep
>into the show and her
>story line will play a
>role later on.

Or not.


"I don't think it's possible for someone whose cooter is in that many places on the Internet to actually give up public life." - Landru

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-18-05, 12:11 PM (EST)
Click to EMail brvnkrz Click to send private message to brvnkrz Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
11. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
I had to look twice to see if this was really MY cabana boy writing this. I'm very impressed PC.
I agree that I think the whole food critic thing was staged. I also agree that it was unfair to open the restaurant so soon.
We are trying to figure out if some of the guests are also staged. Would the Chef really yell at the customers they way he has? Calling them bimbos and telling them they were stupid?
I'm not impressed with this show but since nothing else is on I'll keep watching.

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-20-05, 04:11 PM (EST)
Click to EMail volsfan Click to send private message to volsfan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
12. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
I am beginning to believe the guests are plants as well. I don't think they would be so kind when the restaurant just suddenly closes and it is 10pm and they haven't eaten anything.

New episode tonight! WOO and HOO!


Handcrafted by RollDdice

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"

06-20-05, 05:41 PM (EST)
Click to EMail tamarama Click to send private message to tamarama Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
13. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
<<I am beginning to believe the guests are plants as well...it is 10pm and they haven't eaten anything>>

I agree that the guests know something --

I have a feeling that they're 'recruited' like an audience for a game show. I bet they know it's the filming of a reality show -- which would explain why some of these idiots actually go to the chef & gripe instead of the maitre'd. Who goes back to the kitchen??? (even if it is an 'open' kitchen.) You gripe to your waiter, the maitre'd, the manager...

...unless of course the chef is the 'star' of the reality show. (heh)

These people are DAWs looking for their moment.

And I don't believe for a moment that "Hell's Kitchen" is an actual, open-to-the-public restaurant. (does anyone know where it's located? we should be able to check this)

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-20-05, 06:23 PM (EST)
Click to EMail volsfan Click to send private message to volsfan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
14. "8162 Melrose Ave?"
Can anyone in LA confirm this?

*off to search for pics*


Handcrafted by RollDdice

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

06-20-05, 06:34 PM (EST)
Click to EMail volsfan Click to send private message to volsfan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
15. "Or?"
I went to whitepages.com and searched on the name and found this address:

3760 Sawtelle Blvd,
Los Angeles, CA 90066

I did a reverse search on the Melrose address and get loads of hits for a comedy club.


Handcrafted by RollDdice

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

universityofkentuckyrocks 2572 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"

06-20-05, 09:55 PM (EST)
Click to EMail universityofkentuckyrocks Click to send private message to universityofkentuckyrocks Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16. "RE: Hell's Kitchen Speculation Week 4"
The other way around 3 Blue and 4 Reds.

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top


Lock | Archive | Remove

Lobby | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e -
about this site   •   advertise on this site  •   contact us  •   privacy policy   •