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"Contender 2 Fights"
Strat 11 desperate attention whore postings
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07-13-05, 10:24 AM (EST)
 
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"Contender 2 Fights" |
Wow....look out it looks like Sept. 1st is the Contender 2 fights at Caesar's Palace.....Jesse and Ishe are finally going to get it on! Two brawlers toe to toe...Should be and all out war! Not sure who else is matching up do you know by chance Vegas Writer?
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Galatians 2_20 1 desperate attention whore postings
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07-13-05, 02:28 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Contender 2 Fights" |
Where did you hear that Ishe and Jesse are fighting each other? This is the first I've seen that posted anywhere.
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renoguy 28 desperate attention whore postings
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07-13-05, 04:40 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Contender 2 Fights" |
Jessie just sent out a newsletter. He mentions Jessie vs. Ishe, plus Contender II coming soon on ESPN!Jessie's newsletter: Hey everyone, Jesse B here. Just wanted to take a quick second and let you all know what's happening in my life and what's up next regarding my boxing career. Well, first of all—it is ON between Ishe Smith and I come September 1st. That's right--finally I am going to get a chance to stuff my right hand down that big mouth’s throat and I can't wait to get it on with him in the ring in Las Vegas. As far as I know, we will be fighting on an ESPN card Live in Las Vegas and I am hoping all my Brinkley fans will attend dressed head to toe in Brinkley gear and all will be sporting some of the T-shirts I personally designed. Check out my website and see some of the new gear for yourself. If you can't attend, I hope you'll be gathered in front of the TV, cold beer in hand and a "Hangman's Noose" T-shirt across your back, cuz its gonna be on like Donkey Kong! In the meantime, I have been enjoying my summer with my Kids and Colleen, laying sod at my house and barbequing with family and friends, the way we do it out in Yerington--country boy style. Joey and I have been working hard to get all the merchandising in line for our fans and it looks like my little buddy Guido (Joey) will be fighting in London, England this October. If Jeff Lacy comes away with a win on his August 6th fight in Tampa, Joey will probably also accompany Promoter Gary Shaw and Jeff to Wales in the UK for a second fight. Everything is looking good so far for all of us Contenders and it looks like a second season will air on ESPN sometime this year or early next year. You can be sure to bet that I will be involved with some capacity and both Joey and I are hoping to have some involvement with the second series of the Contender. Maybe we will get a chance to beat some of the new guys up! Well, that's it from your boy Jesse B. Check out my website often because I will be posting all the updated and upcoming fight information (dates, times, tickets, and locations) on the site as soon as it becomes available. And again, I have pre-ordered merchandise for my fans, so please get your gear before the fights. I want to thank you all for your continued support and we will revenge our past 2 losses this year. And for the right price, Joey and I will gladly beat the hell out of each other--so demand the fight and the powers that be will have to give it to you. I'm outta here, Jesse B.
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VegasFightWriter 218 desperate attention whore postings
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07-13-05, 09:12 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Contender 2 Fights" |
I have a call in to Ishe. Haven't heard back. I'll let you as soon as I do.
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jonesy 12 desperate attention whore postings
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07-14-05, 05:58 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Contender 2 Fights" |
hey guys what is jesses website please
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AgentNermal 8 desperate attention whore postings
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07-15-05, 01:26 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Contender 2 Fights" |
yeah...what's the deal with sergio not fighting? i wanted to see gomez vs. mora..but oh well...
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VegasFightWriter 218 desperate attention whore postings
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07-15-05, 08:35 PM (EST)
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9. "Here's what I know" |
LAST EDITED ON 07-16-05 AT 04:48 AM (EST)I saw Ishe, Alfonso, Sergio, Peter, and Tarick today, although only got to speak with Ishe and Gomez. Yes, it looks like Ishe vs jesse and Alfonso vs Peter. The fighters don't know anything yet for sure, though; they're hearing things through the media as much as anything. September 1 in Las Vegas is what they're hearing, as reported here. As far as I know, nobody has yet applied with the Nevada Commssion for that September 1 date. The reason Sergio is not fighting is that he has bone spurs in his foot or knee or something. He aso looks a little chunky to me, to be honest, right now. They were all hanging out together at the weigh-in for Hopkins-Taylor; I expect I'll see them at the fight tomorrow, and have tentative plans to call ishe on Sunday.
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renoguy 28 desperate attention whore postings
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07-15-05, 09:47 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Here's what I know" |
Thanks for the input! But let me get this straight... You said you only spoke to Ishe and Alfonso. Then you said the "others" found Joey's book hilarious. Kind of strange because Alfonso is a co-author of the book and I've seen him post elsewhere acknowledging this (of course co-author could mean a lot of things, who know who the main writer is?). So I don't think Alfonso would find it so hilarious. So I'd have to conclude it was Ishe who found it hilarious?And I think Joey has every right to write such a book. He is a 3-time NCAA champ (I know, not many schools have boxing) and a Nevada Golden Gloves champ. So if he can't write a book, none of the other Contender guys should either, because none of them are yet proven, world class, professional boxers. And most golf pros who teach and write books aren't world class golfers either. So yes, I think it's fine he's writing a book. Anyway, it's not just about how to box. It's supposed to cover other stuff too (check Joey's web site). Anyway, not knocking you for reporting what you heard. I'm starting to wonder if the others are just jealous of Joey? Not because of his boxing, but all the other deals he's making. Anyway, I'm surprised things are still so uncertain about these Sept 1st fights. The Jesse-Ishe and Alfonso-Peter matchups are listed at boxrec.com. I don't know what criteria they use to list a fighter's record and future fights. But it's there, and I assume they wouldn't put it there based purely on rumors from internet message boards?
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VegasFightWriter 218 desperate attention whore postings
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07-16-05, 02:25 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Here's what I know" |
LAST EDITED ON 07-16-05 AT 04:47 AM (EST)Thanks for the clarification, because I was a bit confused about who was writing what. It sounded to me like Alfonso and Joey were doing a book, and that Joey was also doing his own book. And you are correct; from what little I caught, if I understand correctly, the book is not just about boxing, but motivational techniques or something like that. Still, I do find it amusing that, out of all the boxers who could write books about how to box, that Joey (or even Alfonso) would be the one to do it. But these things aren't necessarily basd on who is most deserving or qualified, but who gets the opportunity and makes the most of it, and Joey deserves mad props for making the absolute most out of the opportunity in front of him.
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renoguy 28 desperate attention whore postings
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07-16-05, 03:26 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Here's what I know" |
Thanks for the clarification. It makes sense to me. And let's face it, Joey is the super-uber-self-promoter of them all! Not that it's good, or bad. But of all the Contenders, he seems to of taken advantage of the Contenter fame better than anyone, maybe better than Sergio himself. Look at all the promotional deals he's signed. So far as boxing goes, I think Sergio (and Ishe and Alfonso) will go further than Joey. And Joey, at 29, with just 10 fights (not 8), had better get real active soon to show he's really interested in boxing. He only has a few years left in his prime, and he's no Bernard Hopkins.I know Ishe said that Joey is no boxer. But Ishe says a lot of stuff, and Joey did beat Jimmy Lange, unlike Tarick. And living in northern Nevada, I'll be rooting for Jesse, the local guy, vs.Ishe. But I worry that Jesse with 2 losses in a row (against good boxers, but he shouldn't of lost to Alphonso), may be taking on too much. One thing I remember, was when the boxers listed their occupations before Contender started, Jesse was one of the few, if any, who just said he's just a boxer. Good luck Jesse! And Ishe, you looked awesome against Anthony! I wish it would be a 10 rounder, instead of 7, but 7 is still better than 5. Win or lose, I don't expect to see Jesse trying to pick up Ishe and tossing him to the concrete floor, this isn't gonna be wrestling this time!
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JiveGuy 31 desperate attention whore postings
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07-16-05, 04:08 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Here's what I know" |
Yeah. Miguel, Brent, and Tarick I could really do without.
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VegasFightWriter 218 desperate attention whore postings
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07-16-05, 06:12 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Here's what I know" |
How accurate those match ups will prove to be, I dunno. It's what some of the fighters have heard, and they genuinel seem to not be certain of what's happening, even though the proposed dateis just six weeks out at this point.
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jonesy 12 desperate attention whore postings
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07-17-05, 06:45 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Here's what I know" |
i like 2 put my input in were jesse is concerned i feel vegas writer is buyist 2wards ishe and i cnt w8 2 see ishe that bankrupt bum on the canvas
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renoguy 28 desperate attention whore postings
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07-17-05, 10:16 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Here's what I know" |
LAST EDITED ON 07-17-05 AT 10:22 PM (EST)Missed the Hopkins-Taylor fight. Didn't want to pay $50 and didn't feel like going elsewhere to watch it for free. Maybe PPV should try charging $10 instead? Perhaps they'll end up making more that way? I followed it on espn.com and they gave it to Hopkins. But the Reno Gazette Journal gave it to Taylor. In a close fight like that, I think you should give it to the champ. So far as Joey goes, he's already signed with Gary Shaw. And he's supposed to go to the UK and fight on the undercard of a Jeff Lacy (also with Gary Shaw) fight in Oct (if Lacy wins in Aug). http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2005/07/13/103986.php I still don't think it's fair to say Joey is not a boxer. It is fair to say he's not experienced (unlike most all boxers, he also graduated from college and law school while boxing now and then). He's also a huge self-promoter. At 29, he'd better start boxing seriously in 2005-2006, or we'll know for sure what he is. But he beat Jimmy Lange, and Tarick lost to Jimmy. So I'd say Joey is better than those two, at least. I remember on Contender after he beat Jimmy, he said once you understand the point system in boxing, it's pretty simple. Every time you get hit, you gotta hit the other guy twice. Well, that may work in 3 round NCAA or amatuer fights, but not in the pros, unless you are Superman. And from what I saw, Joey has no defense, but probably has a good chin. So he's gotta work extra hard to get in those extra punches. He was in great shape, better than most all Contenders, but in 7-12 round fights you can't outpunch every round without burning yourself out. Anyway, within the Contender framework of having a small ring and mostly five round fights, I think Joey was in the top half or third or so of the boxers on that show, IMO. And so far as signing him goes, I don't think we have any idea what's going on with Contender. Joey was one of the most popular fighters on the show, especially with the woman who seemed to of watched boxing more than ever before. I'm sure they wanted to sign him. No way they'd sign Brent, Tarick, or even Anthony over Joey. He must of had a way out or something. And I'm not even sure he's out. In Jesse's newsletter, he said he and Joey may show up fighting someone in Contender II coming up on ESPN.
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the_sweet_science 32 desperate attention whore postings
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07-18-05, 08:14 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Here's what I know" |
AGREE! B-Hop won that fight and in my opinion he was just having some fun in the early rounds. I think even when JT was throwing lots of punches, B-Hop was still dictating the pace of the fight and had JT chasing him all around the ring, while B-Hop was ducking, dodging, swerving and swiveling away from most of what JT was throwing, even adding in a dance and a smile here and there but he was not countering enough early so it probably cost him a few rounds early. Other than that, he dominated the last half of the fight, and in the end he outlanded JT bigtime, especially with power punches and he did hurt him a couple of times. I don't know what the hell Duane Ford was thinking giving the 12th to JT, that was shady. B-Hop got that last round without question, and at worst I would have accepted a draw with an "Ok, alright, fair enough" type of sentiment.
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07-17-05, 11:38 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Contender 2 Fights" |
I STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CROSS-OVER REALITY SHOW FIGHT BETWEEN ONE OF THE CONTENDER TOP GUYS AGAINST OTIS GRIFFIN OF "THE NEXT GREAT CHAMP". NOW THAT'S ONE HELL OF A PROMOTION!!!
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07-18-05, 03:53 PM (EST)
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28. "Fighters" |
LAST EDITED ON 07-19-05 AT 01:42 PM (EST)In my opinion only 6 of the fighters on the show proved they can fight. They are (in no order): Ishe
Jessee
Peter
Alfonzo
Joey
Sergio If they are going to have future fights it should involve them and no one else. It would be a disappointment if Sergio were not on because he is the Contender champ, but I would still definitely watch the 2 fights mentioned. I look forward to them. Boxing is great in this format because it is 'free' boxing. Once Boxing went to pay per view and subscription tv I lost interest. I was not going to pay for pay per view and was not going to sign up for Showtime and HBO to get the other fights not good enough for pay per view. Others feel the same way and boxing has suffered as a result. Hopefully they can keep these guys on 'free' tv.
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