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"Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
And now it's time for our annual spin of the NFL Thanksgiving Day slot machine! Everybody ready? Here we go!

TURKEY!

TURKEY!

TURKEY!

...really getting sick of losing on this thing...

The middle game has a chance not to induce comas, but I fully expect Dallas to disintegrate.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread... Molaholic 11-22-12 1
   RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread... HobbsofMI 11-22-12 6
       RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread... AyaK 11-23-12 13
           One more thought... AyaK 11-24-12 14
               RE: One more thought... Estee 11-25-12 15
 Found the first turkey! Estee 11-22-12 2
   RE: Found the first turkey! Round Robin 11-23-12 10
       He got away with it. Estee 11-27-12 37
 Hey Guys...it Isn't Sunday Snidget 11-22-12 3
   RE: Hey Guys...it Isn't Sunday Estee 11-22-12 4
 Fox Game running late, too Snidget 11-22-12 5
 J E T S ! Max Headroom 11-22-12 7
   RE: J E T S ! Snidget 11-22-12 8
       RE: J E T S ! Round Robin 11-23-12 9
           RE: J E T S ! Estee 11-23-12 12
   More fun with stats. Estee 11-23-12 11
   RE: J E T S ! HobbsofMI 11-27-12 41
 Which game to jinx Snidget 11-25-12 16
   RE: Which game to jinx Estee 11-25-12 17
       RE: Which game to jinx Snidget 11-25-12 18
 It's all Kimmah's fault. Estee 11-25-12 19
   RE: It's all Kimmah's fault. Snidget 11-25-12 20
       RE: It's all Kimmah's fault. VisionQuest 11-25-12 24
 RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread... Max Headroom 11-25-12 21
   RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread... Estee 11-25-12 22
       RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread... Max Headroom 11-25-12 23
           RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread... cahaya 11-26-12 26
 RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread... Estee 11-26-12 25
 Total Snidget jinx failure approach... Estee 11-26-12 27
   RE: Total Snidget jinx failure appr... Snidget 11-26-12 28
       RE: Total Snidget jinx failure appr... Max Headroom 11-26-12 29
           RE: Total Snidget jinx failure appr... Snidget 11-26-12 30
   Eagles ahead by 1 point Snidget 11-26-12 33
       Final: Panthers 30, Eagles 22. Estee 11-27-12 34
           RE: Final: Panthers 30, Eagles 22. Max Headroom 11-27-12 35
           RE: Final: Panthers 30, Eagles 22. Snidget 11-27-12 36
 Um... Snidget 11-26-12 31
   RE: Um... Estee 11-26-12 32
       RE: Um... cahaya 11-27-12 38
           RE: Um... Estee 11-27-12 39
               RE: Um... cahaya 11-27-12 40

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11-22-12, 05:09 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
Replacement refs make an appearance in Detroit...
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6. "RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
Another NFL rule that has no logic to it.


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13. "RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
>Another NFL rule that has no logic to it.

The fascinating thing about this idiotic rule is the NFL statement that the Competition Committee had never considered a situation where the refs blatantly f---ed up the TD call and yet the TD stood because of this rule. It makes you wonder just what situation they were considering. Someone throwing a challenge flag to get more time to ogle the cheerleaders?

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11-24-12, 07:04 PM (EST)
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14. "One more thought..."
This has to confirm Roger Goodell's status as not only the worst commissioner of a pro sports league but quite probably the worst commissioner humanly possible.
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15. "RE: One more thought..."
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8673759/challenge-flag-rule-tweak-unlikely-season-source

An argument could be made.

Unless Bettman destroys the NHL, in which case, no contest.

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11-22-12, 05:22 PM (EST)
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2. "Found the first turkey!"
Y'know, Suh, when the other players in your league vote you as the dirtiest one in it, no one is going to give you the benefit of the doubt if you appear to be stepping on the quarterback's crotch. It's not as if you haven't tried to hurt people beyond the bounds of play before this. Repeatedly. And by 'repeatedly', I mean you're going to do it again as soon as you're mistakenly convinced no one's looking.

Consistency has a price.

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10. "RE: Found the first turkey!"
Hey Suh, when you have a rap sheet longer than John Holmes's penis, and when you already have a suspension to your name for illegal use of the feet, you're NOT gonna get away with kicking the QB in the nuts in front of God and everybody, even if you make a totally bogus effort to make it look like an accident. I hate Goodell, but I hope he suspends you till Hell freezes over and fines your nuts off.
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37. "He got away with it."
Goodell must truly admire AyaK to prove him right so often.
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11-22-12, 05:39 PM (EST)
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3. "Hey Guys...it Isn't Sunday"
You aren't going to get a bonus for using up all of OT and delaying TAR.

How many missed field goals can you have in 15 minutes.

And just barely good, tried so hard to make it one more miss.

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4. "RE: Hey Guys...it Isn't Sunday"
Don't worry. I'm sure CBS can find something to delay.
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11-22-12, 09:03 PM (EST)
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5. "Fox Game running late, too"
So, um 30 minutes added to record Glee should cover the last two minutes, right?

Surely Dallas isn't going to tie this up.

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7. "J E T S !"
Three New England touchdowns in 52 seconds? That takes talent.
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8. "RE: J E T S !"
LAST EDITED ON 11-22-12 AT 10:57 PM (EST)

What happened? I swear I only dozed off in a turkey coma for like a minute!

ETA: Um, listening to the crowd after the field goal I think the Jets should just sneak out the back during half time if they want to escape with their lives.

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9. "RE: J E T S !"
Ryan's gotta be on the hot seat after this debacle.
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12. "RE: J E T S !"
If you mean 'the media will be setting his rear on fire', yes. However, most of the early blame seems to be landing on The Offense Of A Million Fumbles plus Sanchez's ongoing efforts to give up more turnovers in the red zone than anyone in recorded history, which is going to be really hard because he's including Pop Warner games and unlike the introductory level, the coaches are allowed to take him out.

By the way, before the automatic bit hits: Tubya was not available. The team reported that he has a couple of fractured ribs. I'm assuming his deity decided to create his future spouse and got rough about it.

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11-23-12, 08:10 AM (EST)
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11. "More fun with stats."
Besides the three already mentioned, the Patriots scored two additional touchdowns in the second quarter for a total of thirty-five points during that segment.

In said second quarter, they held the ball for a grand total of two minutes and fourteen seconds.

I was trapped with this game. I had to get a ride with someone for most of the evening (and before anyone asks, I pick up the car next Saturday) and guess what was on the radio? In fact, it was on the radio for multiple stations because we switched FM ranges at one point. So I got the entire first half, without mercy. By the time those thirty minutes of quasi-football ended, we'd reached the destination and silently agreed not to mention, discuss, seek, or in any way have anything to do with the rest of the game.

You can pretty much guess what was on every TV at the arrival point.

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11-27-12, 04:14 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: J E T S !"
I heard today on Rome that Fireman Jets is giving up for the rest of the year.


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16. "Which game to jinx"
I have a choice of Steelers with a 15th string quarterback vs the Browns who probably couldn't win against the cheerleaders...

or...

Bucs vs Falcons.

I think I'll start with the Steelers game, but if they are wearing those bee uniforms again I'm outta there.

Although if both games are turkeys I might see if there is any parking at the mall.

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17. "RE: Which game to jinx"
Doesn't your jinx ever get tired? You already did three games this week. Your evil eye may need to blink.
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18. "RE: Which game to jinx"
LAST EDITED ON 11-25-12 AT 02:11 PM (EST)

It hurts if I try to hold it in.

ETA: Although I think the announcers are doing more jinxing than I can.

As soon as they mention the Steelers have hardly caught any interceptions the Browns QB throws a Pick 6.

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19. "It's all Kimmah's fault."
But to be fair, she's really been saving that Titans jinx up...

And oh, to be in Pittsburgh with a Big Serial-free squad sinking in the North.

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20. "RE: It's all Kimmah's fault."
That was a rather painful number of turnovers for the Steelers.
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24. "RE: It's all Kimmah's fault."
Eight, eight, are you kidding me? Huffington post calls it borderline hilarious. In Pittsburgh, I am betting they call it dog and wife abuse goes up 50% today.


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21. "RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
And the Colts relentlessly continue their pursuit towards a 9-7 record, just to prove both cahaya and me wrong.

But I'm not complaining.

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22. "RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
Which remaining games do you see as wins?
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23. "RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
LAST EDITED ON 11-25-12 AT 09:07 PM (EST)

Jinxing is not allowed, but here's my outlook:

Dec 2 @Detroit
Dec 9 Tennessee
Dec 16 @Houston
Dec 23 @Kansas City
Dec 30 Houston

edit: The final game against Houston may also be a win if Houston is resting starters.

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26. "RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
Yup, I agree with this, and I think the Colts might even give the Lions a run for their money. The last game may be a gimme if Houston has locked in their playoff seed.

I predicted an optimistic 9-7 season, my best buddy thought 8-8 was already too optimistic, and the Colts continue to surprise. I think this team really wants to make the playoffs with all they've got.

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25. "RE: Week #12 NFL complaining thread."
The local media feels the Giants' victory last night sends a message to the NFL.

I feel that message is 'We are maddeningly inconsistent and cannot be counted on for anything whatsoever.'

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27. "Total Snidget jinx failure approaches."
She would have to make the Reidiot do something competent.

Think about it.

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28. "RE: Total Snidget jinx failure approaches."
I usually don't watch Monday Night football, so Cam may stand a chance.

But if I check the scores or anything all bets are off.

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29. "RE: Total Snidget jinx failure approaches."
No worries, I expect Cam to have at least 4 TDs because I benched him for Andrew Luck this week.
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30. "RE: Total Snidget jinx failure approaches."
Hmmm. not much else on tonight.

7 Panthers, Eagles 3 when I flipped the channel over. Let's see how long this lead lasts shall we?

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33. "Eagles ahead by 1 point"
so not sure if you can claim total failure as we are headed into half time.
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34. "Final: Panthers 30, Eagles 22."
Oh yes I can.
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35. "RE: Final: Panthers 30, Eagles 22."
And Cam got his four touchdowns.
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36. "RE: Final: Panthers 30, Eagles 22."
Well, the Eagles were doing better while I was awake and watching.

Fell asleep after they pulled ahead. Cam's first TD after that woke me up, I went to bed, they won.

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31. "Um..."
LAST EDITED ON 11-26-12 AT 10:08 PM (EST)

Do the Eagles fans behind the coaching staff normally wear paper bags over their heads?

ETA: If they aren't going to put any defensive players in the same zip code as Cam's receivers they may do some serious damage to my jinz.

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32. "RE: Um..."
Eagle fans are better known for putting a cloth bag over your head before taking you to a place where no one will hear your screams.
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38. "RE: Um..."
After the Bengals game experience on Sunday, I think it's safe to say that Bengals fans would be more than willing to put a cloth bag over Carson Palmer's head. You should have heard the stadium-wide boos and the foul X-rated language tossed his way by the already inebriated fans... poor kids at the game, they learn the potty-mouth words early.

We had two Raiders fans in front of us (one guy dressed up in complete Raiders gear with shoulder spikes) and a dad & son pair behind us. They were definitely in hostile territory!

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11-27-12, 11:36 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Um..."
Many NFL facilities have built-in detention centers to contain rowdy, drunken, violent, and all-of-the-above fans until such time as the police can take custody and the PSL money is officially confiscated. Only the Eagles had so many criminal offenders per game as to justify the construction and maintenance of a stadium courtroom with on-site judge for instant case trial, just to speed things along. Until someone builds an electric chair in the pressbox, they win.

However, the increased hostility of just about every game environment hasn't gone unnoticed -- attendance is down this year, and since it can't possibly be the economy, the inherent madness of Game Day is taking some of the blame (with high definition television getting the rest). Rick Reilly had a well-timed column on it this week.

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8639726/all-nfl-games-home-games

So with that article in mind, I'll ask:

1. How much did attending cost you, grand total between all expenses:?

2. Did you feel threatened at any point?

3. Were there any security-worthy incidents in your vicinity?

4. Scale of one to ten: how drunk was your section?

5. Do you think it's a good environment to bring, say, a toddler into?

6. Would you risk attending a game in 'enemy territory' while flying someone else's colors?


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40. "RE: Um..."
1. All in, about $280 for a family of four, with 8th row end zone tix (see below). We brought our own drinks and munchies (bottled/canned drinks and alcohol is prohibited, but bottled water and small boxed juice drinks, plus your own munchies, is okay).

2. No, never felt threatened, except by very real possibility of having beer spilled on my head. A lot of fans were waving their beer bottles (plastic) around as they raised their arms to cheer. One guy nearby did get a drenching, but he was so inebriated, I don't think he noticed it.

3. No, no security related incidents anywhere in the stadium or in our section. A lot of very drunk fans, but no hostile ones. The mood may have been a *lot* different if the Bengals were losing, especially to Carson Palmer's Raiders.

4. I'd say 8 on a scale of 10. Well over half of them were far past legal driving limit, drinking half a dozen or more beers. Some of them could barely walk by the end of the game. Even those who appeared to be the designated drivers had a few too many. I think, apart from one couple and their son, we were the only ones not drinking beer.

5. No, not a suitable environment for toddlers and even young kids with the behavior and language. There were a few kids in our section with their dad and/or mom & dad, and one kid (about 7 or 8 years old) kept closing his ears. Families are better off taking less populated balcony seats. The end-zone section is probably one of the rowdiest. A number of the adult fans (without kids) were obviously regulars to each game, already knowing each other and leading the drunken fight songs. My advice: Leave your kids at home.

6. a) If home team is winning, you're welcome to be there in humiliation.
6. b) If the home team is losing, and you're rubbing it in, you might be asking for it.

As it was, Carson Palmer was the one being humiliated, so everybody got along. I (and a few Bengals fans) high-fived the Raiders fans on Janikowski's 55-yard FG which looked like it could have been good from 70 (no kidding, it was up near flag level, way over the crossbars). The Raiders fans, for the most part, sat in stunned silence for most of the game, with the Bengals in control all game.

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