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Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-12, 05:53 PM (EST) "Peyton Manning rumor tracker." Might as well give the beast its own home: it's going to be with us for a while and unless we give it a corner to itself, it's going to be tracking mud all over the place. And I'm just calling the results 'mud'. So far, I've been hearing the possibilities as breaking down in this order: 1. Dolphins. Warm-weather stadium for a QB who's spent his life in a dome, solid fanbase, could use a veteran player, will spend fairly heavily, can offer the whole 'take your talents to South Beach' package. 2. Redskins. This is the Snyder factor: he's basically sworn to outspend anyone and everyone if Peyton comes onto the market. Should the only goal be cash, this is the line to break. 3. The Field, excepting... 4. Retire. 5. Retained by the Colts. 6. Jets.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker. samboohoo 01-27-12 1    RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker. Estee 01-27-12 2  RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker. Max Headroom 01-27-12 3    RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker. Estee 01-27-12 4        RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker. AyaK 02-01-12 8  RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker. newsomewayne 01-31-12 5    RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker. jbug 02-03-12 14  RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker. Max Headroom 01-31-12 6  Irsay audio interview. Estee 02-01-12 7  Peyton's cleared... PepeLePew13 02-02-12 9    RE: Peyton's cleared... Max Headroom 02-03-12 10        RE: Peyton's cleared... newsomewayne 02-03-12 11            RE: Peyton's cleared... Estee 02-03-12 12                RE: Peyton's cleared... Max Headroom 02-03-12 13  Boo's going to love this one. Max Headroom 02-06-12 15    RE: Boo's going to love this one. samboohoo 02-06-12 16        RE: Boo's going to love this one. Estee 02-06-12 17  Can it get uglier? AyaK 02-15-12 18    RE: Can it get uglier? Max Headroom 02-15-12 19        RE: Can it get uglier? PepeLePew13 02-15-12 20    RE: Can it get uglier? Jims02 02-15-12 21        RE: Can it get uglier? Max Headroom 02-16-12 22    RE: Can it get uglier? Estee 02-16-12 23        RE: Can it get uglier? Round Robin 02-18-12 24  Release supposedly tomorrow (3/7) Estee 03-06-12 25    RE: Release supposedly tomorrow (3/... Max Headroom 03-06-12 26        Bounty on Manning's head cahaya 03-06-12 27            RE: Bounty on Manning's head Jims02 03-07-12 29    Released cahaya 03-06-12 28        RE: Released Round Robin 03-08-12 30  And now the rest of the team... byoffer 03-10-12 31    RE: And now the rest of the team... Max Headroom 03-10-12 37  Jets? No thanks. PepeLePew13 03-10-12 32    RE: Jets? No thanks. Estee 03-10-12 33    RE: Jets? No thanks. Jims02 03-10-12 34        RE: Jets? No thanks. PepeLePew13 03-10-12 35            RE: Jets? No thanks. Jims02 03-10-12 36                RE: Jets? No thanks. PepeLePew13 03-12-12 38                    RE: Jets? No thanks. Jims02 03-12-12 39                        RE: Jets? No thanks. Jims02 03-13-12 40  Peyton Manning to Denver HobbsofMI 03-19-12 41    RE: Peyton Manning to Denver mrc 03-19-12 42        RE: Peyton Manning to Denver Estee 03-20-12 46    RE: Peyton Manning to Denver byoffer 03-19-12 43    RE: Peyton Manning to Denver cahaya 03-19-12 44    RE: Peyton Manning to Denver Estee 03-20-12 45

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samboohoo 17076 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-12, 06:00 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker." I tend to recall mentioning Number 2 a few weeks back. He's so predictable and so f-ing stupid, which is why I can't be too upset at all of the bad things that happen to him because of such decisions. Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-12, 06:22 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker." He's pretty much the answer to 'What would happen if a really bad fantasy player got his hands on an actual team?', isn't he? Chemistry doesn't matter, age doesn't matter, it's all about how quickly you recognize the name. Forget that it's the Peyton of X years in the league, Y injuries, and Z prospects for a full recovery. It's PEYTON! You can put his name in lights over the stadium! You can star in a commercial with him! And you can raise ticket prices! Again! Maybe twice! Midseason increase: the new final frontier! No one gets in unless they pay the difference at the gate and if they refuse, you sell the seat to someone else at the last-minute doubled price! Winning! Imagine what'll happen when he runs for President in four years.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-12, 07:09 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker." I have to admit, the latest round of mutual arse-kissing between Jim Irsay and Peyton Manning is hilarious. Peyton's just trying to avoid Favre Syndrome and have fans still like him after he leaves Indy.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-27-12, 07:20 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker." You mean this, right? http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7510913/indianapolis-colts-peyton-manning-jim-irsay-seek-dispel-misperception There's a flipside there: Irsay doesn't want to become Public Enemy #1 if it looks like he ran Peyton out of town. Even in the NFL's heartless Next Man Up culture, getting rid of the city hero could bring some backlash -- if Peyton goes to another team and lights up the field for them. Worst-case scenario for the Colts is Luck turning into Leaf while Peyton heads south and brings the Dolphins a trophy. In a way, you could argue the best move for the franchise is paying Peyton to retire -- but you probably shouldn't. (The ultra-worst is off the board: if this had all started a year ago, Peyton could be leading his new team to the championship on his former home field. Look to the owner's box for a special guest appearance by Mr. Noose.)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-01-12, 09:55 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker." Actually, Bill Belichick could tell you all about what it feels like. See, Bernie Kosar came to Cleveland as the Browns' great hope. But in 1989, when Bud Carson was disastrously coaching the Browns, Kosar was seriously injured during a win in the divisional round of the playoffs. After leading the Browns to be seconds away from the Super Bowl in both 1986 and 1987, Kosar had missed most of 1988 with injuries (which led dimwit Art Modell to fire Marty Schottenheimer, even though the Browns made the playoffs and lost only on a replay mistake), but had returned to play great in 1989. However, the Browns had no chance in the AFC championship without Kosar . . . and everyone knew it. So . . . Kosar played, at first with a sling and then later without one. The Browns still lost, and Kosar suffered a permanent decline in his skills after the needed surgery. But Cleveland fans loved Kosar, the local boy who had tried to save the team. Then Coach Hoodie came in after 1990 (one of Kosar's worst years). It was obvious to Belichick that the injuries had hurt Kosar. After two more subpar and frequently injured years, Belichick brought Kosar's college rival Vinnie Testaverde to Cleveland for 1993, with Kosar recovering from yet another surgery. And halfway through the 1993 season, a dispute between Kosar and the offensive coordinator led Coach Hoodie to give Kosar his unconditional release. Kosar was promptly signed as a backup by Dallas (which won the Super Bowl that year), and Belichick got his first taste of being reviled by the masses.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

newsomewayne 9065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-31-12, 11:52 AM (EST) 5. "RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker." http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-indianapolis-colts-neck-injury-slow-progress-may-never-play-again-013012 Beacuse two (unnamed) people makes it true, of course. Because of the closeness of valid information on this thing, nothing on the spectrum of possibilities for Peyton would surprise me. Except for the Jets thing. On the funnier side of this, the people who are already fed up with Derek Dooley down here swear that Tennessee's football woes would be solved by hiring Peyton as our head coach. "If he'ud just come down here un coach 'em de way he played, we'd be great! An' wit him a recruitin', we'ud git ever' player we wonted."</mouthful of tobacco juice voice> In most radio markets, the minimum level of intelligence required for a caller is, Do you understand the instruction, "Turn down your radio and listen through your phone?". Here it's "Do you realize that the people you are speaking to are in a studio miles away, not trapped in a tiny box located behind your dashboard?". surfkitten siggie shop 2007   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jbug 16685 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-12, 05:36 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker." Were you able to type all that without taking a break to spit? Thanks Agman 2010 Tennessee girls have fire and ice in our blood! We can ride 4wheelers and horses, be a princess, love with a passion, throw left hooks, fish and hunt with the guys, and if we have an opinion you're gonna hear it! Proud to be one....   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-31-12, 02:00 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Peyton Manning rumor tracker." Here's the Yahoo version of the "Peyton's not recovering well and may never play again" story. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_peyton_manning_colts_neck_surgery_jim_irsay013012 As I've been saying for a while, Peyton's done here. The only open question is whether he retires or he gets cut.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-01-12, 07:43 PM (EST) 7. "Irsay audio interview." If you feel like wasting your time listening for subtext. Or even text. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/category/sports/mike-francesa/#   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 24731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-02-12, 10:09 PM (EST) 9. "Peyton's cleared..." "Peyton's medically cleared to resume playing" Your turn, Mr. Irsay.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-12, 08:50 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Peyton's cleared..." Cleared by doctors but not the team. This is going to end badly. Very, very badly.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

newsomewayne 9065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-12, 11:49 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Peyton's cleared..." LAST EDITED ON 02-03-12 AT 11:50 AM (EST) And from foxsports: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Peyton-Manning-not-cleared-to-play-Indianapolis-Colts-owner-Jim-Irsay-tweets-020212 I thought this was a stupid thing to say... Thursday was no exception. With speculation swirling about Manning's future, his presumed successor — Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck, expected to be taken by the Colts with the No. 1 pick — came to town and told reporters he wants to start immediately. Not being there, I'd guess that the town is torn on what to do with Manning and how to treat him. I don't think adding this kind of fuel to the fire is the best way to get in the good graces of your potential future fanbase. Granted, the above is a paraphrase and the actual quote is probably a lot less divisive. surfkitten siggie shop 2007   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-12, 01:08 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Peyton's cleared..." Luck hasn't been strategically broken by Rookie Camp yet: any veteran of one day or more knows the league expects you to say 'I'll be happy with wherever they put me', which the media can only distort by listening for tone. But let's not call this a sign of Creeping Leafism. Yet. What stood out to me in the Peyton medical stories is that while his neck is supposedly healthy, his throwing arm isn't quite there yet. Which partially sounds like a case of 'Whoever bribes the most doctors wins the media and someone missed a payment', but also gives both sides an excuse. The Colts can cut him because his arm might not make a full recovery and Peyton can go somewhere else because his neck is fine and that last twenty percent will be back on his passes by September. Of course, they're also talking about nerve regeneration. What did he have done and was it even legal in the States?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-12, 03:22 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Peyton's cleared..." Around here the scuttlebutt is that his arm strength is 80% of what it used to be, and his recovery in that area has reached a plateau. It may get better, it may not, nobody knows. Regardless of who you ask, the prognosis is unclear.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-06-12, 03:34 PM (EST) 15. "Boo's going to love this one." Redskins interested in Peyton Manning   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17076 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-06-12, 03:56 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Boo's going to love this one." *groan* He would be a big, overpriced band-aid at this point, and we would be right back where we are if he gets hurt and/or when he really is ready to retire. Given that, I am rather sick of losing. Peyton now needs to tie Eli for titles. It could also bring in some confidence to a team that could really use it. Perhaps it's not such a bad thing. . . Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-06-12, 05:45 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Boo's going to love this one." You sound like a reformed alcoholic sitting at a bar, staring at a bottle of scotch old enough to order its own scotch, and steadily telling yourself that one drink will not destroy the next four years of your life. You know better and anyone who even remotely cares about you will pull you out of the bar before it's too late. The problem is that Snyder has handcuffed you to the rail and is getting ready to force-pour the scotch down your throat.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-15-12, 05:54 PM (EST) 18. "Can it get uglier?" Seven months ago, Jim Irsay agreed to pay $28 million to Peyton Manning in March 2012 -- knowing that Peyton might not play in 2011. Now Irsay is saying that, unless Peyton agrees to walk away from that payment, he's showing that he really doesn't want to play for Indianapolis any longer. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-wetzel_jim_irsay_battles_with_peyton_manning_021412 What a maroon. Is anyone in Indy gullible enough to buy Irsay's bushwa any longer? And if he gets too much criticism for his serial falsehoods, how long before Irsay makes like his dad and brings the moving van in during the dead of night to take the Colts to the next sucker metropolitan area?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-15-12, 11:04 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Can it get uglier?" He's trying to push the burden onto Peyton. "Hey, I gave him a chance to stay here and he turned down my offer." Once it became clear the franchise was going to draft Andrew Luck, they should've let Peyton go instead of stringing him along and trying to make him look like the bad guy. What a joke. I still think it's a distinct possibility that Peyton retires. Multiple news reports around here have said things like "his arm is a noodle" and "he can't throw to his left", so there's a realistic chance he's done as a football player.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 24731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-15-12, 11:16 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Can it get uglier?" And there's a new report saying that Peyton had a fourth neck procedure that went unreported, so the news just gets worse and worse for Peyton's health.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Jims02 7328 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-15-12, 11:57 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Can it get uglier?" This is turning into some weird bizarro-world. Who knew that the Colts, one of the most stable teams in the NFL over the past 10 years, could be such a house of cards? A 2003 IceCat original   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-16-12, 09:06 AM (EST) 22. "RE: Can it get uglier?" It's disappointing, that's for sure. The year Tom Brady blew out his knee in the first quarter of the first game of the season, the Patriots went 11-5 with backup Matt Cassel at QB. Without Peyton the Colts went 2-14 and "earned" the first pick in the upcoming draft. While there's no doubt that Bill Belicheat is a better coach than Jim Caldwell, there shouldn't have been such a huge difference in team performances after the loss of one key player. Guess who drafted Brady in the 1st round of his fantasy football draft that year he got hurt?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-16-12, 12:13 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Can it get uglier?" *glances up thread* Remember when I said Irsay didn't want to come across as the bad guy in this? Too late, too late... Ownership always has the question of 'How long do I have to pay for that last ring?' -- and gawds know I've seen the local teams get it wrong a few times -- but there are ways to dismiss players and ways to get a pitchfork & torch parade outside your front office. Apparently Mr. Irsay wants to buy a medieval farm.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Round Robin 2243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 02-18-12, 06:10 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Can it get uglier?" Because of that $28 million time bomb in Manning's contract, Irsay is screwed like a cheap hooker and he knows it. And since he and his old man before him are worse than notorious for blatant truthlessness, the public will give him no wiggle room. It's either give Manning his 28 mil whether he can ever play again or not, or eat $hit sandwiches from the fans till Andrew Luck wins them a Super Bowl. Were I Manning, I'd call his bluff and force him to either pay the money, cut Manning and be hated for years, or make Manning a pretty good settlement or restructuring offer. Then it's Irsay's choice.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-06-12, 07:54 PM (EST) 25. "Release supposedly tomorrow (3/7)" This rumor says press conference with Manning and Irsay in attendance. No word on the amount of bulletproof glass planned for separating them. If this is it, the Colts are cutting it close -- they had until 4 p.m. EST on Thursday to make the call. But at least it's that much less time for the next series of rumors to get up speed.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-06-12, 08:48 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Release supposedly tomorrow (3/7)" *waves bye-bye* Peyton had a lot of great years here, but this was an obvious decision.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18904 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-06-12, 10:42 PM (EST) 27. "Bounty on Manning's head" No, not today, tomorrow or the day after... Rather, this bounty goes back to 2006 and might explain his current injury situation. Last September, Cindy Boren of the Washington Post wrote an article in which ex-Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy put the start of Peyton Manning's longstanding neck injuries and surgeries at a game between the Colts and the Redskins on October 22, 2006. On one play, Manning was given a "high-low" hit by defensive linemen Andre Carter and Phillip Daniels. Those types of hits, in which two defensive players aim for different halves of an offensive player's body, are among the most dangerous in football. After the play, Manning lay on the ground for a brief time, got up, and as Dungy told Peter King of SI.com and NBC Sports last September, shook his right arm "as if trying to get the feeling back in it."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Jims02 7328 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-07-12, 07:17 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Bounty on Manning's head" I was actually at that game! Don't really remember the hit, though.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18904 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-06-12, 11:07 PM (EST) 28. "Released" Done deal as of Wednesday. The Colts will release the four-time NFL MVP, opting not to pick up his $28 million roster bonus and leaving him free to sign with any team. The team will announce the move Wednesday in a press conference attended by team owner Jim Irsay and Manning, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Round Robin 2243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 03-08-12, 03:38 AM (EST) 30. "RE: Released" Irsay swore up and down that the bonus money had nothing to do with his decision. Don't bull$hit us JimBob, if it didn't cause the decision it damn sure caused the timing of it. I suspect, though, that another factor that helped shove Manning out the door was the coaching change. If there had been no coaching change, the offense would stay the same and they'd make a deal with Manning to keep him around to help teach Andrew Luck the offense. But with a new HC coming in, he'll be bringing in his own OC, who will change the offense, and if they're gonna change the offense to one Manning knows little about, keeping him around to teach it to Luck is pointless if Luck is gonna be your new QB anyway. Let the old f@rt go, save yourself enough money to pay the new kid, and hope like hell you haven't just royally f---ed up. Good move on the surface of it, but only time will tell.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

byoffer 15808 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-10-12, 00:02 AM (EST) 31. "And now the rest of the team..." The Colts were bad last year without Manning, but now they are about to get much worse. First they release Addai, Bracket, Bullitt and Clark. The article also notes that they are shopping Dwight Freeney around. I guess Andrew Luck will be playing both sides of the ball. And dreaming of a 2-14 season. Without a hometown team (no teams here in Cantada) so I get to pick my team based on things I like. Since Peyton turned pro I have been cheering for Indy. I guess I will be shopping for a new NFL team next year.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Max Headroom 10028 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-10-12, 09:54 PM (EST) 37. "RE: And now the rest of the team..." At the rate things are going, I might end up an Argonauts fan. At least the Colts cut Curtis Painter.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 24731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-10-12, 12:48 PM (EST) 32. "Jets? No thanks." Peyton has rejected the Jets. Rejects Ryan's dysfunctional Jets Rex Ryan has failed on his Super Bowl guarantees, and now Peyton Manning has hit him with the biggest blow to his ego and program: The three-ring circus Jets, with their dysfunctional locker room, are not the No. 1 destination for the best players in the league. The Jets have an image problem. They have shifted from a fun-loving Animal House gang with a laugh-track coach to a circus that not only isn't the greatest show on Earth, it's not even the greatest show in New York. In other news... THREE first round picks and a second rounder just to move up FOUR spots in the draft? That's the price the Redskins just paid to move up and get Robert Griffin III. I thought that was an insanely high price, but then someone mentioned "The Giants gave up two firsts, a third and a fifth to get Eli Manning. They overpaid until the last four years happened - two Super Bowls. Any questions?"   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-10-12, 01:02 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Jets? No thanks." In that case, the shock isn't so much Snyder mortgaging the future as his still having one to sell. Personally, I'm glad Peyton's not going to be appearing in green any time soon. Besides all the issues involved with two-brothers-one-city and 'Didn't they do this a few years ago? Does no one remember how that worked out?', it'll shut the media up. Too many kneejerk idiot columnists have been pushing and pushing to cut Mark off at the knees and take their not-their-chances on a one-armed slot machine with the world's highest pull fee. A quarterback needs a city behind him -- press included. Besides, I think half of them just wanted this so they could write fifteen pages in January about what a stupid move it had been while coincidentally forgetting who'd been screaming for it.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Jims02 7328 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-10-12, 03:19 PM (EST) 34. "RE: Jets? No thanks." LAST EDITED ON 03-10-12 AT 03:21 PM (EST) It's really only 2 first rounders, since this year's first round cancels out with the pick they're getting instead. I agree that it's a steep price, but I think they would be very foolish not to try. I mean, what do the Redskins really have to lose? It's a QB-driven league now, and the last 10 years have proven that without an elite quarterback, you can't have any sort of long term success. The Redskins have been awful for quite a long time now, so even if RG3 turns out to be a bust, the team's not going to be that much worse than they are now. They can either flounder about at 8-8 or 5-11 or whatever without an elite QB, or they can roll the dice and at least go for it. If he doesn't work out, then that's fine. That's why it's called gambling. But they'd be foolish to not at least take a shot. I mean, can you guys name another franchise with consistent success over the last 5 years with mediocre QB play? (Aside from the Jets.) Also, there's the WR factor involved too. The Redskins want to pick up a high-profile WR like Colston or VJax in free agency this year, but they were going to have trouble attracting any with their QB options. Who would want to come to Washington to have Grossman throw footballs at them? Now that we're getting RG3, we can probably get one of those WRs now. The Redskins are also waaaaaay under their cap (like $50 million), which also helps. It's a good play. A 2003 IceCat original   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 24731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-10-12, 06:33 PM (EST) 35. "RE: Jets? No thanks." Yeah, I don't have a problem with the price the Redskins paid, I didn't take into account the amount of room they had on the cap so they can sign some FAs to make up for the loss of picks. The Rams better do something useful with those picks - it's a golden opportunity to completely rebuild their team. The Rams might be smart to do it the New England way to turn one of these first round picks into a bunch of 2nd and 3rd rounders as they need a lot of help on the roster. One first rounder could easily pull in 3 or 4 lesser picks, which would all bring in players that could step into a role on the team.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Jims02 7328 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-10-12, 07:10 PM (EST) 36. "RE: Jets? No thanks." Yeah, the cap space definitely helps... The Skins have a few less holes to fill this year in comparison to last year when they had to revamp the whole defense. If the Redskins can bring in a wide receiver, cornerback, and some offensive linemen (as well as usual depth stuff), they should be fine. In my opinion, last year's team was much better than two years' ago, despite the worse record... It was just the extremely poor QB play that dragged them down so far. The Rams better do something useful with those picks - it's a golden opportunity to completely rebuild their team. The Rams might be smart to do it the New England way to turn one of these first round picks into a bunch of 2nd and 3rd rounders as they need a lot of help on the roster. One first rounder could easily pull in 3 or 4 lesser picks, which would all bring in players that could step into a role on the team. I hope the Rams do good things with those picks. It's a deal that is kind of a win-win for everyone. Sam Bradford is going to be a good QB, but he's never going to be able to do anything if he keeps getting knocked around the way he does. A 2003 IceCat original   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 24731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-12-12, 06:10 PM (EST) 38. "RE: Jets? No thanks." Now that doesn't help at all in light of all the draft picks just traded away... The Redskins have just been hit with a $36 million penalty for abusing the 2010 capless limit to be taken from the salary cap limit, to be split over the next two seasons. The article I saw didn't detail how the Skins abused the limit, but they gave an example of how Dallas got penalized $10 million: they signed Miles Austin to a front-loaded deal with a first-year salary of $17 million then lowering it to only $685K in 2011 with a $7.8 mil "signing bonus".   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Jims02 7328 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-12-12, 06:38 PM (EST) 39. "RE: Jets? No thanks." I feel like I don't know enough about the specific rules of the salary caps and all, but I don't really get this penalty. Maybe there's a clause in there that forbids front-loading or whatever, but it seems on paper to be good economics to pile up the money in the uncapped year. I'm kind of surprised only two of the teams were doing it. That also makes me suspect there's a rule I don't know about here, because if it was such a bona fide loophole, I'm sure everyone would have done it. A 2003 IceCat original   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Jims02 7328 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-13-12, 07:38 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Jets? No thanks." Oh, wait a minute, so there was no actual rule, and the reason why the Redskins and Cowboys are being penalized is because the league setup their league all stupid in 2010, and neither team would agree to collusion. Here's a good analysis breakdown of it from PFT. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/the-cowboysredskins-salary-cap-mess-from-square-one/ It's total garbage. Total and absolute garbage. A 2003 IceCat original   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

HobbsofMI 15959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-12, 12:28 PM (EST) 41. "Peyton Manning to Denver" LAST EDITED ON 03-19-12 AT 12:31 PM (EST) Jim Rome is reporting that PM is going to sign with Denver. Looking for confirmation.... edit: Yahoo has it up Manning to Denver sig Syren, bouncy by IceCat, bobble head by Tribephyl, and snoglobe by agman   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

mrc 10020 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-12, 01:43 PM (EST) 42. "RE: Peyton Manning to Denver" Strange choice, I think. Peyton's smart, but I hope he knows what he's doing if he wants to win a SB. What might have made the difference: 1. Denver has a great running game. Tennessee's run game was good, but last year's decline might have made PM wonder about Chris Johnson and the O-line. 2. I wonder if PM wanted to avoid the pressure of playing in TN. I don't know that it would make a difference to him, but I can understand if going somewhere w/o all the home state stuff (even though it's not his home state) was attractive. Personally, I would have chosen SF based on the potential to win a SB and TN for a future in post-career football. The point that Elway won 2 SBs after age 35 is overplayed as a factor, I think. Shouldn't someone start a Tebow rumor tracker thread now? A Slice of Manga   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-20-12, 09:43 PM (EST) 46. "RE: Peyton Manning to Denver" Rumor #1 is the Jets, but they seem to want him as a running back.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

byoffer 15808 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-12, 02:02 PM (EST) 43. "RE: Peyton Manning to Denver" Do you suppose John Elway will "Tebow" to thank God for getting him Peyton and a marketable way to get rid of Tebow?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18904 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-12, 03:10 PM (EST) 44. "RE: Peyton Manning to Denver" I think Manning is horsing around with his career. I mean, from the Colts to the Broncos? At least he didn't defect to any Cowboy and Indian teams.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-20-12, 09:42 PM (EST) 45. "RE: Peyton Manning to Denver" So Peyton Manning is the Antichrist. Who knew?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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