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newsomewayne 9065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 06:37 AM (EST) "Episode 16, April 21, 2009" Expressions of bitter disappointment in Ron and/or Mike go here. Fear the reaper. "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher Expressions of surprise about what Ron and/or Mike did can go in the fan fiction thread.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 Breezy 04-22-09 1    More thoughts Breezy 04-22-09 3        RE: More thoughts suzzee 04-22-09 5            RE: More thoughts samboohoo 04-22-09 8                RE: More thoughts weltek 04-22-09 18                    RE: More thoughts mtopaz 04-26-09 29  RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 samboohoo 04-22-09 2    Actually 2.67 Breezy 04-22-09 4        RE: Actually 2.67 samboohoo 04-22-09 9  RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 Ahtumbreez 04-22-09 6    RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 samboohoo 04-22-09 10  RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 jbug 04-22-09 7    RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 samboohoo 04-22-09 11    RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 Ahtumbreez 04-22-09 14    RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 nap_time 04-22-09 17    RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 weltek 04-22-09 19        RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 Ahtumbreez 04-22-09 20            RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 weltek 04-22-09 21        RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 Breezy 04-22-09 22  RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 brvnkrz 04-22-09 12    RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 samboohoo 04-22-09 13        RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 Ahtumbreez 04-22-09 15            RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 samboohoo 04-22-09 16  Wait. Estee 04-22-09 23  Accidental Spoiler? KwietOne 04-22-09 24    RE: Accidental Spoiler? WhiteHot 04-25-09 27  RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 warp_core breach 04-22-09 25  RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 Silvergirl1 04-23-09 26  RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 featherfish81 04-25-09 28    RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 mtopaz 04-26-09 30  RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009 suzzee 04-28-09 31

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Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 07:10 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" Not disappointed at all. Ofcourse that would be the outcome. And with how Ron has acted this whole show, who would be surprised by his lying to Kristin? What I was disappointed in was Bob's idiot team and their food journal. I seriously hope that wasn't a normal calorie day for them. I'm 110% sure that's why Kristin gained. You can't NOT fuel your body when you're working out. They weren't eating anything!!! Oh my lord, was I yelling at the TV. You can ask DD, she was laughing at me. Tara needs some mental help. Girl has way too many issues. My Personal 3Day Page   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 07:17 AM (EST) 3. "More thoughts" Kristin needed a way better sport bra last night. Ouch. I'm glad they told us about Mike's Mom losing weight. But I still question why the boys didn't lose along with her? Wasn't she cooking for all of them? Fillipe still annoys me. I hope he gets on meds soon for his ADHD.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

suzzee 4956 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 04-22-09, 07:47 AM (EST) 5. "RE: More thoughts" I think that Ron rules the roost at home too. I'd bet that he'd be quite a pain if his wife suddenly decreed that everyone was on a diet. He didn't manage his weight loss very well after he had the stomach surgery and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he wanted those boys to be his size, it's a control thing I think. I wonder if Mike will ever get his answers from Ron. I so got the impression that Ron was saying what he thinks he was supposed to say for the camera last night. I wonder who the real Ron is. Spring outfit thanks to Sharnina   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 10:04 AM (EST) 8. "RE: More thoughts" One thing about Ron's wife. As a woman, I can see where her desire to lose weight might have been more than the men's. But I still shake my head at that whole situation. Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

weltek 16933 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 12:43 PM (EST) 18. "RE: More thoughts" We've seen how much they ate out. My guess is there was little cooking done at home, and when Mom was dieting they didn't want to eat what she had and thus either went out or had take out, or snacked on unhealthy things through meals. As someone that tries to diet and has a hubby that still wants chicken wings, burgers, beer, full fat chips, etc., I can completely understand how she couldn't control their diet when Ron wasn't ready to change. -A Tribetastic Creation   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

mtopaz 2167 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 04-26-09, 08:40 PM (EST) 29. "RE: More thoughts" That's very true. Just like any life change, quitting smoking, or drinking, or whatever your particular addiction might be, a person can only successfully change their eating habits when they are ready and willing to do so. So I don't blame the mom for her husband's weight, and only somewhat for the children's weight. They were a fat family, and at some point she got tired of being overweight and took steps to change that. I would imagine she tried to offer all of her family the leaner choices she was eating, but they weren't interested. I also think Ron is likely the dominant personality -- as long as he was continuing to eat an unhealthy diet, his boys followed his example, even while hating themselves for doing so. It's such a mixed up thing - our love/hate affair with food. It shouldn't be this way, yet it is. Even though I sometimes get frustrated, as do the trainers, with competitors on this show for getting caught up in game play, or not really thinking sensibly about eating/working out, etc. -- in actuality it is showcasing that being obese is a complicated issue. It's not as simple as eating a balanced diet and getting exercise. Designed by Agman, siggy maker to the gemstones   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 07:15 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I am disappointed, but not surprised. I cut it off when I saw the conversation between Mike & Ron in the room. I did check back at the end to see how Kristin has done at home. I think she really struggled in that first six weeks, 16 pounds total lost? I hope between then and the finale she gets it off. I was also disappointed to see the streaks trying to sneak back into her hair. I was jumping up and down and thrilled when Jillian went into Tara's room. Thank you Jillian! I was blown away by the food journal. Oh my. They all had a bad week, and we know why. I also knew Kristin was going from the outset. The editing really doesn't hide some of the eliminations. Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 07:18 AM (EST) 4. "Actually 2.67" is a very healthy rate of weight loss, even a little high. .5-2 pounds a week is the suggested range.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 10:05 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Actually 2.67" I agree with that. But I say "struggle" because of where her head was when she left the game. I thought she would have been one of those who really would have lost a lot more at home during that time. Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 08:20 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" Like Boo, I was disappointed but not surprised. I wonder if they cringed when they watched the show last night and realized their conversation had been picked up. I'd bet money they had a completely different conversation in front of cameras. Fell in love with Jillian all over again when she went to Tara's room. Especially with the showing of the clip of her telling Mike to send Laura home. She's a true professional and cares about her trainees. I think Mike and Rob overplayed their hand lastnight at Elimination and drew an even bigger bullseye on Mike's back then he already had. They were both smug beyotches at the table, but I still like Mike. For some reason the products placement segments got on my nerves lastnight. Ugh. Mangalicious by The Slice 09/25/2008 Bre left for Iraq 04/29/2009 Bre leaves Iraq   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 10:06 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I think there are things Jillian could have done with Laura, but I think she didn't want to. And I say that thinking that Jillian was thinking of what she thought was best for Laura. Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jbug 16685 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 08:42 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" Did the video log of their eating backfire on Bob? Is this the way they've been eating all along? or were they trying to reduce calories to impress him? I understand tho - most of us think that reducing calories is the way to lose weight - and it's hard to un-do old thoughts and change. Course they've been there long enough to have learned better. Kristin seemed bitter about Mike winning the reward challenge. Why is it that every contestant on every reality show thinks he/she is the most deserving! LOL Did Helen really think Tara should give up on the challenge and just give it to her? "Nothing gets to you, does it?" I couldn't believe she said that! Helen was at the end of her rope (literally) and really didn't have much to bargain with. (I'm still so disappointed about her lack of make-over.) Jillian really had confidence in Tara's weight loss. I'm glad Tara didn't need the 1 lb. Tara mentioned deposit, etc on a new apartment with the $10,000; wonder what she'll be doing with the kitchen make-over? I sure wouldn't put it into a rented place. Maybe she can give it to her mom. I really don't like the begging before the vote. I understand that those up for elimination want to plead their cases, but each one cries "I'm not ready to go home; I deserve to be here". None of these people would be very good at debates . If I were one of the ones having to vote, I think I'd tell them the group could talk it over without hearing from them. That sounds cruel, but what they say really doesn't make much impact on the decisions, does it? Now about Ron. Kristin has known for a long time that Ron is all about Mike and only Mike. Ron kept his promise to never write her name down; but he lied when he told her mother he'd do everything he could to protect Kristin. Kristin may hold it against Mike for voting her gone; but she knows that that was really Ron's decision. Slicey took out the wrinkles '08   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 10:08 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I hope they were trying to impress Bob. The only thing I can say about Helen and her makeover is that I wanted more for her, but when you look at her in Week 1, she really has changed drastically. I don't like the begging either, and I didn't like Kristin pulling Ron aside. Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 11:49 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I couldn't believe Helen said that either. Do it on your own, or shut up! I wouldn't want to win the challenge by someone giving it to me. Kristin knew what was up with Ron and Mike. She's a smart cookie. Mangalicious by The Slice 09/25/2008 Bre left for Iraq 04/29/2009 Bre leaves Iraq   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

nap_time 177 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 04-22-09, 12:24 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I couldn't believe that Helen thought Tara should throw the competition for her! Besides the fact that Helen already owes Tara a $10,000 for eating the cookie in her name a couple of challenges back. Whatever! They all get mad at Tara cause she is kicking butt...why would you want to win a challenge on a "give me". That is what I didn't understand about the yellow team begging everyone to "give me" the win on that balancing challenge. As much as I want to win something... if I can't do it on my own...I shouldn't want the "win". As much as I like Kristen, I don't blame Mike for voting her off...she was the biggest threat to him. And at this point it is down to game play. I still like Mike... but I thought it was pretty low of him and Dad to play the votes out like that. I think they should have been honest with Kristen. Not bold face lie to her...When Ali asked Ron did he know what Mike's decision was and he said NO... I was fussing at the screen. Great role model dad.. .teach your 18 year old that lying is ok if gets you out of an uncomfortable situation. Plus I really think Mike put a HUGE target on his back being so cocky about winning the whole thing. He has been everyone's "little brother" and flown under the radar...but when he said that, it was like everyone woke up and went... "Hey, we have a threat on our hands." You could see it on their faces. (Unless it was just editing...) He best hope he doesn't fall below the yellow line cause he will be gone. I want Ron to go home before the final 4. Although...my sisters and I were talking last night and if America got to vote again... things could go very wrong for Mike and Ron if they both stayed. We could have a repeat of last season where Ron would plea to vote for Mike and America votes for Ron out of spite! I really don't think that would happen...cause everyone seems to be taken with Mike and it isn't his fault that his dad is like he is... but just saying. Was anyone else surprised that the fried fish sandwich only had 640 calories?? I way overguessed. I had a 1000! OPPS! PS- JBUG: love the siggie! It looks just like you!! ~Thanks Agman..couldn't have done it without you. ~   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

weltek 16933 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 12:46 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" One would think the trainers would have been doing the diet monitoring a little closer from Day 1 to hammer in their head they can't under consumer calories when working out at that pace. And with that food journaling thingamabober, you'd think a good computer program would also alert them to underconsuming. -A Tribetastic Creation   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 12:59 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" That whole segment felt scripted to me. I'm not sure why and I'm trying to remember if there was product placement. It hit me much like the whole segment when Mandi was home and went on the spiel about the gum. Mangalicious by The Slice 09/25/2008 Bre left for Iraq 04/29/2009 Bre leaves Iraq   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

weltek 16933 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 01:07 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" Yeah, it was a bit like a cross between the trainer tip and product placement. -A Tribetastic Creation   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 01:26 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I agree it had to be scripted. They showed them way back when logging their food into the BudyBugg software. I'm sure that would have alerted them to the mistakes.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 10:39 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I have finally had my fill of Helen. I want her gone. Same for Ron. Why are these people following his words like they are his little minions? How has he been able to control this house this entire time. I'm super proud of the job that Kristen has done at home. I think she looks fabulous. Yay for Jillian calling out Tara. So sick of her. I am still rooting for Mike at this point but I hate when it gets this late in the game and it is mostly gameplay. Tribe made me gay   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 11:25 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" Still rooting for Mike here too. I think deep down, he really is a good kid. And he's only 18. I chalk up poor decisions to that. Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 11:53 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I actually think Mike made the right decision on sending Kristin home. I would have. It's only 3 more weeks. Kristin has the knowledge, momentum and habits to do this at home now. I wouldn't have felt bad sending her home with the goal of winning the 250k. What I didn't like was Ron and his twisting of words and actions. Mangalicious by The Slice 09/25/2008 Bre left for Iraq 04/29/2009 Bre leaves Iraq   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17075 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 12:24 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I can agree with that. Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-22-09, 01:42 PM (EST) 23. "Wait." There's a fanfic thread? At least it can't be All-Stars.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KwietOne 1083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 04-22-09, 02:25 PM (EST) 24. "Accidental Spoiler?" Anyone notice the preview for next episode? When Mike was shown commenting on his weight result, they had an image of the weight tally board behind him. It showed: (1) unknown - couldn't see it (2) Filippe (3) Ron (4) not sure, looked like Helen (it only had the upper edge of the name showing) (5) unknown - couldn't see it It already showed (4) below the yellow line. I know Mike's name still hadn't shown, since he was up on the weight scale. We don't know, if Tara had been weighed yet. It's quite possible, Ron/Helen or Ron/Tara or even quite possible Ron/Mike fall below the yellow line. Thoughts anyone?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

WhiteHot 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 04-25-09, 08:07 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Accidental Spoiler?" I have two comments on this. The first had to do with the newest commercial when they showed Tara with her 'Fat' cutout leading me to believe she was definitely in the Final 4 (if they are doing a final 4-Or are they doing an America's vote? Would Helen win AV over Ron? -sorry, just rambling.) Don't only the last 4 (or 3) contestants do the big goodbye scene and cut-out with the trainers. Will Bob only have 1 member in the final group? *crosses fingers* The second has to do with an interview my two local radio DJs did with Jillian on Tuesday morning. In it, they asked her about women's weight losses compared to men's and she said it was VERY possible (she emphasized) that the chances were good that SHE would have a women winner. Now while that may have been referring to Tara, I think Jillian's supposed confidence would be more explainable if BOTH Tara and Helen were in the final 3. Im just rooting for Tara because Bob has ALWAYS rubbed me the wrong way. I would be happy for a Mike win, but that whole 'godfather Ron' thing is getting hard to stomach. Ron is just too cocky, ever since he said "Its Mandi's turn to go" ick. And with Mike's newfound confidence, you have to wonder if the producers are setting it up for the Brown teams downfall. Would Felipe, Tara and Helen vote out Mike over Ron?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

warp_core breach 469 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 04-22-09, 03:54 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I am not surprised and I understand why Ron did what he did. What I have issue with is the way he went about it. Don't try to make Kristen feel like she has a chance to stay when that is not the case. He should have just said that he wouldn't write her name down or not say anything at all. And then to deny at the elimination that he didn't know who Mike was going to vote for... Thankfully, Kristen knew really what was going on. I still like Mike but I did not like the show of arrogance and I think that he put a huge target on himself. I liked Helen in the beginning but now... blah!! It bugs me when reality competitions make a big deal about the final _____ in this case it's congrats on making the final 5. So what? It comes down to the final 3! A Gift from Agman   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Silvergirl1 9320 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-23-09, 11:52 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" I did not see the first hour, so I'm just commenting on the part I did see. It seemed underhanded for Ron to tell Kristen he would see if he could talk to Mike about the vote, when he knew what he was going to do all along. I don't blame him for trying to do what is best for his son, though. I also don't get why Kristen feels like she has the right to be upset. She gained a pound this week, and the show is called "The Biggest Loser". It's supposed to be about weight loss, not about friendships. I think Kristen still has a way to go, because she is still considered morbidly obese. I'm not sure if she will maintain the weight loss, but we'll see. Agman, 2008   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

featherfish81 391 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 04-25-09, 11:33 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" Delayed post, but I had to wait for the FLN repeat. I was also happy that Jillian went in to talk to Tara about why she wanted Laura to go home. Hopefully it will help Tara really focus on herself and stop freaking out about everyone else. Like someone else said, I was also surprised the fish sandwich had only 640 calories. I thought they had both way underbid. Oh, and apparently taking anyone 18 (although I think she was implying 21) and under to NYC is pointless, because there is nothing for them to do there. Felipe was being childish at the challenge. Shaking the thing was just silly, and led to the mature AB conversation comment. I had to agree with Helen on that one. Way to be 10. It was interesting that Tara took the money and not the pound, and Jillian wasn't furious about it. Normally the trainers want you to do what is best for the game, to keep you on the ranch. But it was an interesting perspective that she was betting on herself, and it did pay off. And finally, Ron made me furious at the vote. After getting mad at Felipe for implying he wouldn't vote for Ron, and then doing it anyway, I can't believe he blatently broke his promise to Cathy and Kristin. True, he didn't write down her name, but he didn't do everything in his power to keep her there, either. It sounded like Mike (understandably - she was a big threat) wanted to write down Kristen's name originally, he just had to make sure it wouldn't make Ron mad. I understand why he's confident, but I probably wouldn't brag about it. But a lot of people mature and make their own decisions at college, so hopefully that will be true for him, too.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

mtopaz 2167 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 04-26-09, 08:49 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" LAST EDITED ON 04-26-09 AT 08:49 PM (EST) And finally, Ron made me furious at the vote. After getting mad at Felipe for implying he wouldn't vote for Ron, and then doing it anyway, I can't believe he blatently broke his promise to Cathy and Kristin. True, he didn't write down her name, but he didn't do everything in his power to keep her there, either. It sounded like Mike (understandably - she was a big threat) wanted to write down Kristen's name originally, he just had to make sure it wouldn't make Ron mad. I understand why he's confident, but I probably wouldn't brag about it. But a lot of people mature and make their own decisions at college, so hopefully that will be true for him, too. I was seriously annoyed (but not surprised) at the way Ron handled the whole thing. Why not be straight up with Kristen and tell her, "I won't put your name down, but I'm going to encourage Mike to vote you out, simply because you are the biggest challenge." As you said, Ron got so upset with Filipe for doing something similar. Way to be hypocritical Ron. However, the remaining contestants brought this on themselves. They had the opportunity to vote Ron out recently, and didn't take it. So there you go. Belatedly, they are realizing the strong brown voting block - and also seeing both Mike and Ron put up impressive weight loss numbers week after week. Maybe one or the other will fall below the yellow line this week -- and maybe Ron will go home. Filipe was a jerk on that challenge, but I'm still rooting for him, only because Ron, Tara and Helen have annoyed me so much more over the course of the season. Mike - I like him, but I feel he's still too much a daddy's boy. He's young and hopefully as he matures, he'll stand on his own two feet and make his own decisions. Designed by Agman, siggy maker to the gemstones   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

suzzee 4956 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 04-28-09, 05:02 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Episode 16, April 21, 2009" Who was it that said all they have to do to be safe is to stay above the yellow line. It really boils down to that and if any one of them says they deserve to stay after gaining weight at this stage of the game I say phththt. Going below yellow even after a decent weight loss because everyone else did better is a bit different then gaining and trying to convince you deserve to be there over someone else. OK, on to the show tonight.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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