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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 08:54 PM (EST) "Episode 4/10 Discussion" Looks like tonight is going to be a good one! What happens...I.CAN'T.WAIT!   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:04 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Yeah ....whoa, first five minutes and Paul tells Zach pretty much that he killed his mom (guessing), and gabriella is going to get pregnant. they're starting out strong tonight   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:09 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" WOW! I didn't even think of the woman being his mom! Color me slow tonight!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:25 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Yeah it came to me when he was talking about how someone was trying to strip him from the only family he's known.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:30 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Mrs. Huber's sister is laying it on thick. She tells Zach that his mother was a loving mother and that his original name was Dana! WOW!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:15 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" lol at lynette convincing bree to watch the kids cause she's wearing pantyhose. Susan's mom left her husband over his job.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:17 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" and he threw a book at her. Bree just paddled Lynette's son! OH NO!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:27 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" oh man, it's getting ugly. I dont know where to draw the line on spanking. My parents spanked me and it worked for me. There's a difference between spanking and abouse. But the lines blurred a lot in the last few decades so I can understand where lynette's coming from too.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

bacon 2824 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 04-11-05, 09:35 AM (EST) 37. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" I love the actual Elephant in the room that everyone ignored during this episode. Bree spanking the little punk actually worked! The kid stopped misbehaving and then as soon as Lynette gets the kids again they act like monsters. But spanking is wrong people, remember that!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 09:30 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" GAH!!!!!!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:30 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" uh oh, Ms. Hubers sister is talking to Zach and telling him about his mother and that she knew them in Utah. Holy Sh1t , Zachs original name was Dana. OMG, do you think he was born a girl or hermaphrodite or something like that? This is wild.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 09:41 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" The interesting part is that Zach remembers being called Dana. Has Mrs. Huber's sister ever said that Angela was Z/D's mom?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

iatovttotx78 2645 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 04-10-05, 10:13 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" LAST EDITED ON 04-10-05 AT 10:15 PM (EST) Dana can be a boy's name too. I've known several. ~Tim~ ETR: edited to remove sig pic.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 10:16 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" True. So what would Paul and/or Angela/Mary Alice have had to have done to make Dana change his/her name? Maybe Paul isn't his name either?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 09:32 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Speculation: Angela had a twin. Paul kills one and marries the other. ??? Wow I'm going crazy now!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

buckeyegirl 5449 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:39 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" LAST EDITED ON 04-10-05 AT 09:42 PM (EST) Ok, I missed the part when the police were talking to Paul and Zach overheard...was it just about the box? edited to take out my sig   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:40 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Yeah that was all it was about.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:41 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" The bones in the box were those of a woman not a man. I think zach was led to believe the body was that of a man. Carlos physicaly assaulted Gabriella and forced her to sign the post-nupt.I bet this comes to bite him in the ##### when she finds out she's pregnant and threatens to leave him and take the child with her. Any opinions on this one?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 09:42 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Especially since he said he may be in jail for 8 months. The child will still be with her, and he couldn't take that away.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

buckeyegirl 5449 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:42 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" LAST EDITED ON 04-10-05 AT 09:43 PM (EST) Thanks Vols and CSTL! edited to take out my sig   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

newsomewayne 9065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-11-05, 10:00 AM (EST) 38. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Wouldn't something like that have to be signed in front of a notary to be valid? Especially since she can claim she signed under duress.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 09:40 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" | <-the line .................................................... where gabriela's hubby went -> | "I know, baby, it hurts to lose."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:48 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Now that's the funniest thing I've heard. Lynette threatend to take her kids to Bree's if they're bad. Funny stuff. Bree looks disgusted at they way a lot of the mothers are at the rehab center. She goes off on andrew and tells him that she's a good mother. Andrew just dropped the gay bomb. Bree freaks out and goes back to the car. Gabriella looks like she's going back to John. This is really goin to make the whole baby thing interesting. They're gonna get it on, and she's gonna get pregnant and no ones gonna know whose baby it is.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 09:50 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Wow, hadn't thought about that with John!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 09:50 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Bree absolutely made me LOL when Andrew thought his dad could handle it better and Bree said he was right and she would be in the car! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 09:59 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Mrs. Huber's sister has baby pics of Z/D!!!! Why doesn't his/her dad remember Mrs. Huber's sister? Maybe he's not really Z/D's dad? Mary Alice sounds like Gabriela gets preggers from John...is that the case?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 10:03 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" I thought the first half of the show was far better than the last half. Much more info reavealed early. The Gabby preggers thing would be unwanted for Gabby no matter who the father. So, it may not be by John.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 10:04 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" I'm just speculating tonight, but maybe there are two Danas in the story?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 10:08 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Could be. Do you think there are two dead peeps? A child that Zach killed and then this other lady? Or do you think there is only one dead body?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 10:10 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" I dunno. I've missed a few episodes, so I don't know all the details. There's a body buried in the back yard, right? Or did Paul take it out and throw it in the river. Also, Zach said he busted the chest, but he was wrong. How did Zach not know that he didn't break it? Or maybe Paul fixed it?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

iatovttotx78 2645 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 04-10-05, 10:19 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" I think Zach was lying through his teeth I that one. He knows that he didn't break the box. He was just making up the story to expalin the box's absence and to protect "the only family he has ever known." ~Tim~ fighting for peace is like fvcking for virginity.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 10:26 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Question: Who did Paul say was in the box?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 10:36 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Well, the person in the box is the person that tried to take Zach away from the only family he has ever known?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-10-05, 10:41 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Literally or figuratively? (I mean, I don't know how it would be figuratively as I'm pooped, but maybe something will come to me.) (Ok, something just came to me. Maybe who he (Paul) killed knew the truth about the family and was going to tell Zach (Dana), not necessarily that the woman was going to physically take Zach away. But Paul wanted Zach/Dana to continue thinking that he was his dad?)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-10-05, 10:44 PM (EST) 32. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" I don't know how it could be figuratively either. But the point you make is a good one.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

DontGetMeStarted 880 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 04-11-05, 08:08 AM (EST) 34. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" yes, I like that!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

djandy 1711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 04-10-05, 11:48 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" The lady in the box was a Private Eye that according to Paul was going to take Zach away from the only family he has ever known. The impression that I got was that Paul (or whatever his name used to be) and Angela kidnapped Dana when he was a baby, and then moved away and changed their names to Paul and Mary Alice and Zachary. The Private Eye was searching for the baby Dana, so Paul killed her to keep Zach and the secret. Would the dead Private Eye be the lady Mike is looking for? His ex-girlfriend? Mrs. Huber, using information gained from her sister who used to work with Angela, wrote Mary Alice the note "I know what you did", meaning when she kidnapped Zach. This theory would explain a lot of things. djandy S8 ABC Red Ink Champ, S7 ABPABC Red Ink Champ, CMY FOMO Red Ink Champ   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-11-05, 09:06 AM (EST) 36. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" I wonder why Paul originally told Zach that the body in the box was a man? Zach was very confident that Paul told him it was a man. BTW: I have the same ideas as you do as to how this could play out. I like it!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17076 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-12-05, 09:12 AM (EST) 41. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" I got the impression that Paul never said it was a man or woman, but it was an investigator, and Zach just assumed it was a man. Not sure. Crowned by Pooh. Decorated by Syren   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-11-05, 10:49 AM (EST) 39. "Yup" That's what I got out of the whole episode last night.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

janisella 698 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 04-11-05, 08:11 AM (EST) 35. "Zach and the police" I think Zach covered so he'll have leverage if Paul wants to send him away again.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

clemsonbeav 4203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-11-05, 12:39 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" Been thinking about why Mrs. Huber's sister had baby pictures of Dana/Zach. Any chance Mrs. Huber's sister is Zach's actual grandmother? As in Mrs. Huber's daughter was the real mother that may or may not be the one in the chest?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

samboohoo 17076 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-12-05, 09:21 AM (EST) 42. "RE: Episode 4/10 Discussion" My Thoughts: Perhaps Paul and Mary Alice legally adopted Zach or were in the process -- back then Mary Alice was Angela, Zach was Dana and Paul used another name. Then the birth mother changed her mind and wanted the baby back. They fled and changed their names. The PI came looking for him. She found them and was killed, possibly by Zach depending on how old he was at the time. That could explain the "only family he's ever known" comments. I agree with Beav about why Mrs. Huber's sister would have pictures of Zach as a baby. It didn't appear that Mrs. Huber had any children though. Also got the impression that Gabby will be pregnant with John's baby. Gabby seems pretty determined not to have a child. If Carlos is locked away, I could see her terminating the pregnancy without telling him. Crowned by Pooh. Decorated by Syren   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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