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"Part 2 & 3 - There"
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"Part 2 & 3 - There" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-27-08 AT 10:31 AM (EST)Got a little excited and had some premature enteration. Not sure if the mods can fix this or not. I can't wait until Thursday. It's on at 6:00 if I watch the Atlantic Canada feed. Yippee!!! So this is speculation, I have avoided all spoilers. Do you think that Locke is going to have a Hermione saves Buckbeak with the Time Twister moment? Will he be able to time shift and beat Keamey at his own game?
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2. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
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84. There's No Place Like Home (2)
First aired: 5/29/2008 Production Code: 413
The face-off between the survivors and the freighter people continues, and the Oceanic Six find themselves closer to rescue.
Writer: Damon Lindelof, Carlton Cuse
Director: Jack Bender
Guest star: Kevin Durand (Keamy), Anthony Azizi (Omar), Francois Chau (Dr. Marvin Candle), Alan Dale (Charles Widmore), John Terry (Christian Shephard), Sonya Walger (Penny Widmore), Jeff Fahey (Frank Lapidus), Nestor Carbonell (Richard Alpert), L. Scott Caldwell (Rose Henderson Nadler), Malcolm David Kelley (Walter "Walt" Lloyd) , Alex Petrovitch (Henrik), Starletta DuPois (Michael's Mom) Interesting guest stars yet again
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05-29-08, 11:14 PM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 05-29-08 AT 11:45 PM (EST)wow, whoa. I got a text message from a friend during the show because she knew I wouldn't answer the phone  Am I supposed to be able to go to sleep now? Damn! ETA what's up with this: http://www.octagonglobalrecruiting.com Entered an email address and it says a recruiting officer will contact me shortly
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05-30-08, 09:39 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Whoa" |
San Diego Comicon. S'where they debuted the rough-cut form of the Orchid video last year.
Proudly making Jack look stupid
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05-29-08, 11:16 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
That! was an awesome 2 hours. I am speechless...Moving the island... LOL Don't want to give away any spoilers to anyone who hasn't seen the whole episode yet. The person in the casket at Drawlers? Um... I don't get it. 
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14. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
"moving the island"
Remember that weird sound and bright light from way back? Could the island have been moved before? Maybe to keep Widmore from finding it ?
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05-30-08, 08:26 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
1. I thought for sure that Desmond was a goner. I was expecting the other shoe to drop when he reached Penny. 2. Will they be able to convince Sun to go back? She has a daughter that she would not see again? 3. I loved how they just continued with last years flash forward. 4. Sayid made me nervous with Hurley last night. 5. I wish I could sit on a beach and have Sawyer swim up to me like that. *kicks Juliet* 6. Christian appearing to Micheal was really creepy. So was Hurley talking to Mr. Ecko. 7. I jumped too when Ben talked to Jack at the funeral parlor. Good makeup job on Locke in the box. He did look like a corpse! 8. I had no idea who was in it until they said Bentham said it was horrible after they left. What could have happened that was worse? 9. Are Sawyer and Juliet with Locke post-move? That was really cool too with the move. 10. Where were Rose and Bernard? Where they still on the island or in the Zodiac? What happened to the Zodiac. I still haven't absorbed this all. Time shifting bunnies indeed. Now I can start reading Lostpedia again and all the spoilers. Was it completely spoiled again?
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05-30-08, 08:27 AM (EST)
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16. "Questions" |
If the Island will not let you die, how is John in the coffin?Why can't Aaron go back? Christian telling Micheal he can go now? Hmmmmm. What's going to happen to Daniel and the boat people?   bouncey by Ice
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05-30-08, 08:33 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Questions" |
alternate endings:
Sawyer in coffin.
Desmond in coffin.
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05-30-08, 09:54 AM (EST)
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21. "Zackly!" |
How was John able to die?! When I saw him in the coffin all I felt was aggravated by the inconsistency.I think Faraday already knew something was going to happen to the island because he sort of muttered when Juliet said she'd see him when he got back after dropping off the next boatload of people. I am hoping those people don't just float around until they die-I really like him. Who is Charlotte? Based on her interaction with Ghost Buster guy (whose name I can never remember, lol) she's been to the island before. When and why? I am disturbed by Sun contacting Widmore. I do think she would align with him if she found that Ben was responsible for Jin's death. And WAH he must really be dead. I was hoping not but it sure seems to be the case 
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05-30-08, 10:05 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Zackly!" |
My take on Locke in the coffin is they said he moved the island again. So he was unable to go back to the island...they must have a new leader. So the island did not need Locke anymore.
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05-30-08, 11:44 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: Charlotte" |
she said she was looking for the place where she was born? the island?Miles is very quirky-funny I feel bad for Daniel- it's like he knew something bad was going to happen but he was trying to help the survivors anyway What will Frank do now? just disappear?
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22. "RE: HELP!" |
Due to a fuzzy tv I totally missed what Sawyer said to Kate before he jumped out of the helicopter.WHAT DID HE SAY??? Its driving me crazy! Any help would be greatly apprecitated. Thanks!
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25. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
1. Where are Rose and Bernard? On the boat? The Island? I never saw them except for Rose telling Miles he needed to ask before eating the peanuts.2.What happened to the people on the little boat with Farraday? Did Farraday know that the island was moving or did he think something else was going to happen? Whatever he thought, he was scared for anybody left on the island. 3. I thought for sure that Locke was going to try to strap the dead man switch to his own pulse. 4. I'm not sure I really believe that Ben would do anything that would prevent him from setting foot on the island ever again. 5. Furthermore, why was anybody surprised that Ben didn't care about the people on the freighter?? 6. Richard is able to travel on and off the island, so it didn't surprise me that Locke was able to. My question is how did he finally die? Maybe the island can only keep you from dying when you're on the island, but if you're somewhere else and something happens, you're screwed? 7. What happened after the island moved that was so terrible, and how could everybody coming back make it any better? 8. There's no way Jack will be able to convince Kate she and Aaron have to go back to the island. Especially after the dream with Claire. 9. I thought this whole tome that it was Oceanic/Widmore forcing the Oceanic Six to lie. But it was Jack that somehow convinced everybody to lie. I didn't buy his reasoning for a second. And I don't believe he did it because Locke told him to, I don't think he comes around to Locke's thinking until later in life. So what exactly is going on there? 10. Charlotte - 'I'm still looking for the place I was born.' Interesting. 11. The saltines ('You know those are over 15 years old.) and the Orientation video ('Is he talking about what I think he's talking about?' 'If you mean time traveling bunnies, yes, he is.') scenes me laugh out loud. 12. How did Ben know how to move the island? 
Sig by Tribe- the real 'Jacob' of the island.
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26. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
1. Anyone find Sun telling Micheal she was pregnant weird? I don't know why that sounded strange to me.2. In Aaron's room there is a picture of a bicycle in it. It looks like a still from the clip of the Orchid video where the guy was riding a bike but the shot was upside down. 3.Was Ben referring to Locke's whole life when he said he was sorry for making it so miserable? Or just his life on the island? Cause I thought his life on the island was pretty good for him. If he means his whole life then that means he was keeping tabs on him. Maybe he created all the drama in his life. 4. I wonder if next season will be mostly off island. Or in island time it is the present and the flashbacks will be mostly of them from immediate post-move. 5. I think Sun has it in for Ben big time.
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31. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-30-08 AT 12:06 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 05-30-08 AT 11:52 AM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 05-30-08 AT 11:06 AM (EST) OH MY HECK!! Last night had me on the edge of my couch the entire time muttering WTH several times!! The guy who plays Ben just cracks me up!!! He is truly amazing in this role. Locke in the coffin, didn't see that one coming. Man, Walt has grown. Liked the interaction with Hurley. Is Clair freakin' dead or not? Glad that Desmond isn't. I wonder about Daniel and the boat people too! I commented at the time that only random "red shirt" people got on it and no one important to the story. Sun's reaction in the helicopter when Jin got left behind and then presumably blown up broke my heart. STILL.TOO.MANY.QUESTIONS.
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05-31-08, 00:47 AM (EST)
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53. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
>Man, Walt
>has grown. When did we see Walt in this last episode? Did I miss something? DirecTV did a weird thing about 30 minutes into the show and showed the same 3-5 minutes twice in a row--complete with the commercials! So, I'm thinking that I had better go on abc.com and look at the real version... EXCELLENT finale!! Realitycoholic 
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06-03-08, 01:26 AM (EST)
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61. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
Coming out of a commercial break, Walt's grandmother brought him to visit Hurley in the asylum for about a two-minute scene. She asked Hurley not to be dangerous, he promised he wouldn' bet. He commented that Walt was getting big. Walt asked why none of the Oceanic 6 had come to see him, why they were lying, mentioned that "Bentham" had visited him. Hurley said the lies were to protect those left behind. That transitioned to a scene with Ben, John and Jack aboveground at Orchid Station where John told Jack if they were rescued they would have to lie, and if Jack could do it as good as he lied to himself they could pull it off.
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05-30-08, 12:07 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
Okay. I've started a comment here three times now and I just really don't know what to say.I think I finally felt a sense of satisfaction in this season finale - they gave us just enough answers and moving forward and cliffhanger elements. It was well done. So the Oceanic6 have referred to eight people surviving the initial crash. Do you think they're referring to Desmond and Frank being the other two (who escaped on Penny's boat) or Jin and Michael (who went boom on the freighter) or two random people? If it was two random people, don't you think the press would eventually ask who the other two were? Loved the exchange between Jack and Desmond. See ya in another life, indeed. Did Ben put all of that metal into the time travel chamber in order to activate the island moving device, or to break the chamber? LOVED Richard telling Locke "welcome home." Considering how Locke has always been searching for a "home" or a "family" or a place to belong, and how Ben plays into what people most deeply need or desire, I did wonder briefly if Ben is just playing with Locke, still. Ben. Who knew when he first fell out of his balloon that he'd become such an integral and fascinating character? Amazing, and someone needs to give Michael Emerson some awards. He's brilliant. So piecing things together, Ben turned the big wheel, cut his arm, and then. . . landed in the desert? Wasn't that when he found Sayid (at Nadia's funeral) and recruited him? So did Ben leap forward in space and time to that moment in the future? Keamy showing up in the Orchid elevator reminded me of the creepy one-eyed Russian guy and his nine lives. What does Mr. Paik have to do with all of this?
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05-30-08, 12:50 PM (EST)
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43. "My guess" |
I think they chose these 3 because they were pretty certain that they were dead. That would not be a lie that these 3 died. As far as they know there would be no chance of them showing up again.
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47. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
In the extended version of the Pt. 1 episode, which aired before parts 2/3, Jack stated that 8 of them were left. He stated Boone Carlyle, who died of internal injuries; Libby who died from head injuries and Charlie Pace who drowned a few weeks before being rescued. Why did they pick those three to mention out of everyone that survived? What was significant about those 3? Jack said that that there was only eight of them left 6 Kate,
5 Jack
4 Sayid
3 Sun
2 Hurley
1 Aaron Now when he mentioned only 8.
Wouldn't Aaron be involved in the Oceanic 6, so there was only 8 suvivors.
Or does Aarron not count
and
Libby
Charlie
Boone
be the other 3. Which would make it 9 suvivors. I know that Aaron was born on the Island. But that still doesn't make since. Oh well. ![]() 
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05-30-08, 03:34 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-30-08 AT 03:37 PM (EST)For what it's worth, I think- Daniel knew the Orchid could allow time/space travel of the Island. He had the Orchid drawing in his notebook and he turned to it as soon as it was mentioned. That's why he wanted so much to get away from the island after that. Jin jumped into the water and was picked up by Daniel in the raft. The raft could still get back to the island because it was still "connected" to the island even though the island moved by that time. The other man that Sun blames for Jin's death is Widmore, as he was the one who hired the mercenaries. Sun is working with Ben to double-cross Widmore in some way. Sawyer and Juliet, along with the other Losties, will end up teaming up with the Others. After all, they don't really have a beef with each other any more. Jack claimed 8 people got off the plane and three (B, L, C) died. Then Aaron was born. He would not be included in the 8 initially because he was not yet born. Will there ever be any more food drops at this point? Will food once again become an issue? Maybe the Ohters know how to farm, etc, well enough so they will be OK. Will the Others be able to move to and from the island the way they used to? What ever happend to Desmond's sailboat. As far as I know, that was still around somewhere.
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05-30-08, 04:48 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
I think Sun believes pretty strongly that Jin is deadthe 2 people she blames for his death are her father, Mr. Paik, and Jack I believe her motives are to get back at her father and Jack
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54. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
>Daniel knew the Orchid could allow
>time/space travel of the Island.
>He had the Orchid drawing
>in his notebook and he
>turned to it as soon
>as it was mentioned.
>That's why he wanted so
>much to get away from
>the island after that. I definitely think Daniel is reliving these events. He must have conducted his time experiments on himself, causing him to travel into the future. For whatever reason, I don't think that Daniel fully realizes this, but I do believe he has a vague recollection of it. This might explain why he was so upset when he first saw the tv news report about the wreckage of flight 815. He must be having memories (re: flashes) of the future.
>Jin jumped into the water and
>was picked up by Daniel
>in the raft. The raft
>could still get back to
>the island because it was
>still "connected" to the island
>even though the island moved
>by that time.
I definitely hope that this is the case. Getting blown up on the freighter would be a rather lame end for Jin.
>The other man that Sun blames
>for Jin's death is Widmore,
>as he was the one
>who hired the mercenaries.
>Sun is working with Ben
>to double-cross Widmore in some
>way.
Interesting idea, though I have a feeling she is really on Widmore's side. It seems to me that the losties will wind up being divided by which side they choose. It's quite possible they may have to face off in the future. This could very well be what leads them all to go back, so that we can get the final revelation about what is really going on, on the island. Is it just me, or did anyone else have the feeling that things are setting up in a way that parallels the first season. Once again, we have a group of outsiders on the beach and the Others off in the jungle. And with the interaction between Daniel and Juliet last night, there even seems to be the possibility for a new love triangle. This time, instead of 2 men and 1 woman (Sawyer, Jack, Kate), we have 2 women and 1 man (Charlotte, Juliet, Daniel). Juliet might even fill Jack's role as the leader, especially considering that she too has a medical background. If I had to make a wild guess about things, I'd say that Charlotte is the daughter of Richard Alpert, that he conceived during one of his off-island excursions. Now that would be mind-blowing. 
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56. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
Daniel knew the Orchid could allow time/space travel of the Island. He had the Orchid drawing in his notebook and he
turned to it as soon as it was mentioned. That's why he wanted so much to get away from the island after that.Jin jumped into the water and was picked up by Daniel in the raft. The raft could still get back to the island because it was still "connected" to the island even though the island moved by that time. I agree that Daniel knew and I think Jin may very well be alive but I'm not sure what happens to them...how are they "connected to island" the helicopter would be "connected" too then...wouldn't it? The other man that Sun blames for Jin's death is Widmore,
as he was the one who hired the mercenaries. Sun is working with Ben to double-cross Widmore in some way. I disagree.. I think Locke *Jeremy Bentham,* told Sun about Ben killing the mercenary causing the explosion on the freighter. She's going after Ben..the other person "who got off the island"
Sawyer and Juliet, along with the other Losties, will end up
teaming up with the Others. After all, they don't reallyhave a beef with each other any more.
I agree and Juliet and Locke will hook up What ever happend to Desmond's sailboat. As far as I know,
that was still around somewhere. Didn't Ben tell someone (Sayid?)he used it to get off the island? My thoughts and questions Is Walt using an alias? (btw he looked so good and he can be on the show again because its 3 years in future) He was on the plane's manifest and now is living with his grandmother...It seems that if you were a survivor of the plane "they" are looking for you because Sayid took Hurley to some place safe.
I think Frank Desmond and Penny will just live on boat and go to faraway islands for supplies, etc. They need to find an island girl for Frank  But they will be found sometime....
That scene with Desmond and Penny was great I love them, they're my favorite Lost couple. Sun's reaction to Jin's "death" was the best most authentic reaction to spouse being killed i've seen on tv/movie. I never really liked or disliked her but now she is one of the most interesting characters on the show for me Ben is so evil...his "So" line was great. He should win an Emmy I have this nagging question about Richard and Locke...is he his real father? He was in the hospital when the grandmother gave Locke up for adoption and then he showed up again with the sand and knife, etc. That last scene with Locke in the coffin blew me away....I think I had figured it out by then but it was still great to finally see him there. This is the best show on tv by far
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06-02-08, 07:51 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
Emydi, I agree with you regarding Sun: Amazing reaction scene and she must be after Ben. As far as the people in the ocean being "connected" to the island while those in the helicopter weren't, maybe this could explain it: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4266329.html?series=6 That explanation seems to correspond to what we know of Dharma. The connection would depend on whether or not those in the water were inside the wormhole's boundary, the event horizon if you will. 
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65. "RE: Part 2 & 3 - There" |
I just rewatched Lost and have some time to post my thoughts. Emy – I could just ditto everything you said! Ben’s reaction to everyone getting blown up on the boat was chilling, but not unexpected. He is a great actor, so is Sun. She was amazingly realistic after the boat blew up and her dejected demeanor on Penny’s boat was spot on. I still wonder how much more Daniel knows about the island than he lets on or if he’s been there before. His character is a nervous-nellie, but he seemed really agitated to be there. Ever the optimist, my guess is that both Daniel and the boat and Jin got sucked into the island’s orbit and will end up back on the island. Seeing Penny and Desmond reunite gave me the chills. I hope we see the same with Sun and Jin at the end of the series.Here are some other things I noticed – some themes for next season: Kate things Bentham is crazy but Jack now believes him (the whole Man of Faith versus Man of Science theme between the two of them). Locke kept talking about destiny (it was their destiny to come to the island) – Why do they need to be there? He also talked about miracles (Kate also said Aaron surviving the helicopter crash was a miracle). Another theme that we’ll see in the next two seasons. Rose busting on Miles for eating the peanuts: “I’m going to keep my eye on you Shorty.” Are Rose (and Bernard) going to have a bigger role next year on the island now that the Oceanic 6 is off? I wasn’t sure about Frank, Daniel, Miles and Charlotte early on in the season, but now I think their stories will be interesting additions. Miles ghost-busting talents are fun and I want to know how Charlotte fits in on the island (she definitely recognized the Dharma logo on the polar bear fossil). One thing that bothers me is the shear number of people that Sayid has assassinated. Who are these people – are they all associated with Widmore? This little war between the Losties and the Others has gone global between Widmore and Ben. Several episodes ago I wasn’t crazy about all the off island shenanigans, but the way the finale brought all the pieces together was awesome. I can’t wait to see how Sun works with Widmore against Ben . How freaky was Claire appearing to Kate: "Don’t bring him back." And Ben is always lying! He said whoever moves the island can never go back, but in the funeral parlor he tells Jack, “We’re going to have to bring him too. Even though Ben is working with the Oceanic 6, I don’t expect him to ever fully be the good guy! I thought the finale was great. It answered some questions and laid out a whole bunch of great stories for next year. *moan* Eight months to wait!!!
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06-03-08, 04:13 PM (EST)
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I'm still wondering why the helicopter did not get pulled in with the island if it did pull in Faraday. I guess water is the connection there. Because the helicopter was closer to the island than the Zodiac.Jin may be alive I agree. The biggest clue as to him being alive would be getting Sun to go back to the island. Maybe Locke told her he was? Who knows. I say his chances are 50/50 and would not be surpised either way. Sun definately blames either Ben or Widemore. I don't think it is Jack. I still think the biggest mystery is what went bad on the island in the time they left. I love the contrast of Juliet as a leader and as Jack. Or anyone really. It is extremely cool to me to see them take a "noble hero" and turn him around the other way by not even making him evil. Very hard to do and very subtle. I think Matthew Fox might even be outshining Locke and Ben in the acting department. He is bringing it without the bells and whistles of a scene chewing character. WOuldn't it be funny if Penny's "I have a tracking station" that she told Desmond on the boat meant that they were heading back to the island to another hatch? I'm still not sure about Penny. I think "move the island" should be incorprated into internet slang everywhere like "jump the shark". Anytime something weird happens you can reply "maybe they moved the island". I also don't buy now that Ben is telling the truth. Why should we believe him when he says the person who moves the island can't come back? I call shennanagins!
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06-05-08, 10:19 AM (EST)
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Me, too. Her dad, yes. Jack, though?
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06-23-08, 11:04 PM (EST)
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Internet had been down for quite a while and I have been dying to read this thread... finally!My only comment is about Kate. So a guy throws himself off a helicopter for you and you shack up with another guy... A great episode! Can't wait until next year!! 
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