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"3/21 Episode"
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03-22-07, 07:59 AM (EST)
 
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I guess I'll get us started this week! This was another good episode. I like the week-to-week continuity. The big question –
So who else thinks Locke’s dad killed Sawyer’s parents? As soon as Anthony Cooper said, “I’m a con man, not a murderer” I thought of Sawyer.Even though I always suspected the Locke’s dad helped cause his injury and I saw that push out the window coming, it was still a shock. Cooper is an evil, evil person and now he’s on the island! I always thought Locke wanted to stay on the island because he was cured. I never considered that he was running away from his dad, but you just knew that Anthony Cooper was going to be behind that door. Locke’s “communion” with the island is going to cause future showdowns between The Others and him. I liked Ben’s character again. Ben as a sadistic leader got old fast. But we you lock him in the hatch or confine him crippled to his home and he can only manipulate through mind games, he’s pretty interesting (and creepy). Sayid placed the seeds for Alex to rebel even more against The Others when she finds out they lied about her mother. And Danielle finally got to see her daughter. How many weeks are the going to tease us before they finally meet?
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03-22-07, 12:45 PM (EST)
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Nice possible catch. I seem to remember there being another building in the background of Hurley's shot though, as if he was in a downtown office block. But I could be wrong. Someone check!!!
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03-22-07, 12:37 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: 3/21 Episode" |
Here's the transcript ...My Serious, Logical Thoughts on The Man from Tallahassee
Welcome to the LOST report coming to you live from LAS VEGAS, NV. TITLE
The Man from Tallahassee refers to a reference made to the father of Locke. It is unclear if this is just a code or he really is from Tallahassee. JACK AND THE OTHERS
So we learn that Jack has not actually joined the others but instead has made a deal with them, but thanks to Locke, Jack and Juliet cannot leave the island. Notice that Juliet is ok after having been put on trial. DO NOT LOCKE ME OUT
We finally learn the cause of Locke being in a wheelchair, and this episode did not disappoint. Notice the tease at the beginning when Locke is sitting down asking for benefits. Chalk up another reason for Locke to hate his father who pushed him out of an 8 story window. We are led to believe that the man from Tallahassee did have something to do with the death of Peter because he had no qualms about killing his own son. Nice guy we got here. The coincidence of him now turning up on the island just defies explanation. It is about as likely as a chicken joint being hit by a meteor. Oh wait yeah. What will Locke do now? I think next weeks episode should start like this: LOCKE: Ben, may I borrow a gun please? Thank you. Then the episode could be over in less than one minute. Notice that the father of Locke is bleeding with fresh wounds. He probably objected to being tied up. The man who unlocked the door, Alpert, is the same man who helped recruit Juliet with Ethan. He also was on the TV show Suddenly Susan. This episode also puts to death other ideas about the paralyzation of Locke such as it was all in his mind. Nice idea but did not pan out. BOX
The magical box spoken of by Ben cannot help but remind me of the box of Pandorra. Anybody else think that? His description of the box is remarkable and explains a great deal. Kate saw a horse, Hugo saw Dave, Jack saw his father and so forth. Not to mention the things people have heard in those whispering voices. I am also reminded of Walt seeing the polar bears in the comic book. This box has nothing to do with the magnetic anomaly since it is now destroyed, and what does this have to do with the monster? What does Ben mean when he says that the man from Tallahassee came out of the box? Did they wish for him? Could this box explain how a small plane from Africa ended up in the south pacific? Not to mention that it was carrying people known to Eko. Another improbable coincidence. I am reminded of the hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy which had an improbability drive. When you use it, the most unlikely thing that could happen, happens.
The box may also have some kind of psychic link to the user and be able to read thoughts. We saw many things from the past of Eko in the monster cloud. The monster was reading his thoughts and displaying them. Since we have seen this and we have the description of Ben of the box, I make the connection that the box links to the thoughts of the person to produce what they want. Why do they not wish for another submarine as Locke asks? Because Jack and Juliet would escape. And who is most suited to work the box than a man who worked at a box company! The monster cloud may also determine if someone is good or bad. Or as the others put it: on the list or off the list. IS COOPER THE REAL SAWYER?
James carries a piece of paper around with him which tells of a con man named Sawyer who conned his parents which led to their deaths. EVIDENCE: Cooper is a con man. His age would make him old enough to do this con when James was a boy. Cooper has been known to change his name. Also due to the alarming number of coincidences on the island, this one would be no more unreasonable to any of the others. Now, James can finally have his revenge. That would make a nice flashback episode too. THE RETURN OF THE SEASON ONE LOCKE
Finally, we got a small glimpse of the season one Locke. The mysterious guy with the connection to the island. Ben refers to this connection in his conversation with him. Season one Locke is so much better than the season two pushing the button Locke. Season three Locke is ok. Why does Locke have a connection to the island? It could be something in his DNA or what if one of his ancestors had been on that island? Since we have seen the coincidences of people showing up on the island who are linked to other people on the island, it is not too far a stretch to guess that a Locke ancestor could have been on the island before. It may have been even Cooper himself. Cooper may have come to the island to hide from authorities. But he would have to know how to get there. THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMM
The drink that Cooper pours when Locke confronts him. Is that Mccutheon brand? It is a very rare brand. It was used by Mr. Widmore who we know has a connection to the island.
Great to see Danielle finally see Alex. Now let us have a reunion! How can Ben be the father of Alex? If Danielle crashed on the island and she is the mother and Ben was born on the island then how? Also Did not Danielle say she shot her husband? Ben must consider himself the father only.
Ben says that the others are willing to defend the island. Defend what? The box? The DHARMA brand stuff in the refrigerator of Ben. Mikail said they went to war with DHARMA and they are not DHARMA. Are they then just mooching their stuff? Locke fell 8 stories. 8 is a Hurley number.
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03-22-07, 12:30 PM (EST)
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5. "6 Degrees of Lost" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-07 AT 07:14 PM (EST)Another great show! How pathetic for poor John Locke -- his own father tried to kill him! It's a good thing he has nine lives!! I want some answers! How on earth would Ben know all about Locke's life history? I found it interesting that one (Ben) was born on the island and is now in the wheelchair and John has a special "communion" with the island and is out of the wheelchair. Are Ben and John counterparts? Two halves of a whole? I also want to know how long John's father has been held captive by the Others -- he is to Locke what those @#$%^&*( numbers are to Hurley. Terrible things happen when ever he is around!! Question is, what will become of him? What more damage will he wreak while on the island? Will Locke or the Others kill him? I kind of doubt it. Will it be more torture and torment now for Kate, Sayeed, Jack & Locke, or will Danielle come to their rescue? How long will we have to wait for Danielle and Alex to meet each other, face to face? Can't wait to see the fireworks when that happens. Meanwhile, it looks like trouble ahead for the Lostees on the beach next week.
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03-22-07, 04:10 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: 3/21 Episode" |
I thought it was a great episode!!! We finally saw how Locke got in a wheelchair (and didn't we just know it was gonna involve his dad?) Even though I knew it was coming, I was shocked when his dad pushed him out the window. And what the #$%^ is he doing on the island? Who got there first? Does Ben really not know how it happened like he claimed, or is he the great event orchestrator of the island? And when they put Locke in the wheelchair and he started to cry....woah. The other thing that really grabbed my attention was how anytime Ben refered to the other's they were 'My People'. He must've said it a dozen times last night! I can't help it, I'm back in love with this show. 
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03-22-07, 04:49 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: 3/21 Episode" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-23-07 AT 09:29 AM (EST)Great episode. I like how Lost gets back to its roots when it stops focusing on Jack, Kate & Sawyer and the Others as in the first episodes before the hiatus. It's been nice to finally see the other Losties, especially Locke. I figured that Locke's father was going to push him out of the window but I was still shocked when it happened. It was the first "gasp" moment in a long time. It's official. Locke's father is the most evil man on television! I just reviewed the episode "Numbers" in Season 1. I looked carefully but I don't think it was Locke who fell past the window. At the beginning of the scene, Hurley is looking out the office window. The building seems to be located in the business section of the city as there are other highrises around. Hurley is also looking down onto a busy street and sidewalk. When Locke fell, the area around the building was more open and he fell onto grass and there were palm trees around. It was a very good theory and that's the beauty of Lost - things that make you go hmmmm. I do think that there is the possibility that Locke's father could be the man who conned Sawyer's parents. That would be cool. 
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03-24-07, 02:13 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: 3/21 Episode" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-24-07 AT 02:15 PM (EST)With Survivor on the same night, I didn't have time to think much of that episode. I liked it. Jack enjoying himself with the Others wasn't so difficult to explain afterall. I prefer "creepy Ben" to "tyrant Ben". His mind games are very interesting. I wasn't expecting Locke's father behind the door. Hats off to those who guessed. For me it was a nice surprise. The episode left me with one big question regarding the story: If Locke wants to stay on the island, why antagonize the Others instead of trying to join them? He'd be right at home with them.
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03-26-07, 01:50 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: 3/21 Episode" |
This show is picking up some serious steam. The last 3 episodes have been great. "The Man from Tallahassee" was amazing. The chess match dialogue between Locke and Ben was at an all-time high.1) The submarine - Count me among those who think Locke didn't blow it up. A) They didn't show him ACTUALLY blowing it up for a reason, and B) He was soaking wet for a reason. We see him descend into the submarine and head to the navigation area. The next time we see him, he's soaking wet and walking down the dock. I think he figured out how to operate it (maybe at The Flame), moved it, swam back, and blew up the dock. Also, a closer frame-by-frame inspection of the confrontation between Locke and the Others on the dock shows no sub behind him. It's possible it's farther down the dock, but we don't actually see what blows up (other than the dock, of course). Locke has a plan, I believe, and maybe using the submarine as a bargaining chip is part of it. 2) "The Man from Tallahassee" - I'm assuming that Ben was referring to Cooper when he sent Alpert for him. (BTW, I loved the exchange between Ben and Locke afterward...Locke: "'The man from Tallahassee'? What is that, some kind of code?" Ben: "No John, unfortunately we don't have a code for 'there's a man in the closet holding a gun to my daughter's head'. Alhough, we obviously should." Too funny.) So, is he real or a smoke monster apparition? I think it's pretty clear it's the former. Thus far, the smoke monster's projections have all been outside. But more importantly, if Cooper was sent for, then he really, truly is on the island. Then how did he get there? The most obvious answer, and the one I believe, is that he was ON Oceanic 815. I believe he was one of the tail section survivors taken by the Others. Too coincidental? For THIS show? Hell, if you buy that somehow Eko wound up on the same island as the drug plane carrying his brother's bullet-riddled body, then this isn't any more of a stretch. 3) The "magic box" - There's some very serious Garden of Eden/Pandora's Box stuff going on here. Like the numbers, the box, as Hurley would say, is Bad, with a capital B. And speaking of the numbers, remember Hurley's friend Leonard telling Hurley he "opened the box" when he played the numbers? 4) "Born on the island" - Ben tells Locke he was born on the island and that NOT MANY of his people can say that. If we take him at his word, for the sake of argument, it means that he's not the only one of the Others native to the island. In their podcast, Lindelof and Cuse said we should believe everything Mikhail said, except for his claim to be part of Dharma. This means the Others are not the remnants of Dharma. 5) Recruits - Ben also said that most of the Others were recruited--probably very much like how Juliet was recruited. Why do they need to recruit people? And, is there a different status for those born there vs. those brought there? Meaning, are the recruits brought in to serve the natives?
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03-27-07, 12:20 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: 3/21 Episode" |
Thanks. I have my share of "crazy" thoughts, I guess I just keep those to myself.  As for Ben, the Others, and Alex; I believe Danielle that Alex was taken from her by the Others. Ben was probably put in charge of her care (by Jacob?), kind of like how HRG was put in charge of Claire's care on Heroes. A father/daughter relationship naturally developed, but with Ben having lots of responsibilities, once Alex became a teenager, the relationship strained. Speaking of Danielle, there's a theory going around that the "sickness" relates to the weird time/space nature of the island. Perhaps there was another anomaly, or that Danielle's crew just couldn't adapt to how time "works" on the island and went crazy. Perhaps they discovered this "box" and looked into it? Being scientists, they were probably curious. And we know what curiosity did to the cat... I'm not sure I buy into it, but it's certainly an intriguing idea.
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03-27-07, 12:01 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: 3/21 Episode" |
Am I the only one who thinks Cooper may be Jacob?
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