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"T Minus ..."
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"T Minus ..." |
...less than 18 hours!
Are we all READY?!!I know I am! Doc is our resident "Live-Feed Host"!
I would love to serve as the "Pre-Show Hostess"! What we know so far - 1.) "Rutherford" is a very pertinent name. Not only to Boone and Shannon, but to Jack as well.
2.) Hurley's "numbers" are getting more relevant.
3.) Jack's past seems to not only be interesting, but very crucial!
4.) Walt is not on the island... but IS!
5.) Locke is getting creepier!
6.) Sayid seems to be fading into the background.
(THIS one really kept me up at night...)
7.) There's a hatch. Why the HELL did only THREE people go to it?!! I mean, CARP!!! If there was this monumental find on an island I was stranded on, you wouldn't be able to KEEP me from it!!! I'd be there in a heartbeat, regardless of what Dr. Jack said! Wow!
I love this show soooo much!
If you all like this, I would LOVE to do it every week!
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09-28-05, 09:02 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: T Minus ..." |
I can't believe Michael told Sawyer to "Get off my raft."
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7. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Sawyer pulls bullet out of his own shoulder and says "you got a bandaid" LOL
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13. "The Question" |
I'd like to know this too. It sounded like the set up to a really corny joke: "What did one soldier say to another one?" (The real question probably isn't even close to this, but that's what it sounded like).
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09-28-05, 09:37 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: The Question" |
I am taping it and will rewind to see if I can figure it out right after the show goes off.
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29. "RE: The Question" |
What did one silhouette say to another silhouette
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30. "RE: The Question" |
"What did one snowman say to the other snowman?" is what he asked. .......... Must be a password phrase thingy..
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33. "RE: The Question" |
Thanks batts for the correction. It was very hard to hear the exact word.
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9. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Sawyer tells Michael that the boat that was used wasn't built for the ocean and that it came from somewhere close by like the island. Sawyer says they were after Walt all along. They are arguing over what happened and why and Sawyer's little raft falls apart and he has to swim over and get on the one with Michael.
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11. "Holy Carp!" |
The "closet" that Locke pushed Kate into is loaded with food and has an air conditioning duct. Kate steals a handful of candy bars and goes thru the duct.
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14. "RE: T Minus ..." |
At first I thought it was an alarm to indicate that either Kate had escaped or Jack had broken in, but now I'm not too sure. The number display connected to the display has five digits connected to it, right? Three in white, and then two in red? I know that it previously had another number on it, but the computer did turn to 108 00 after Locke put the numbers in and pressed execute.
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20. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Kate may end up regretting giving in to temptation and eating that candy bar. Hmmmm . . .
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09-28-05, 09:46 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: T Minus ..." |
LOL the closed captioning for Jin running up was Udders Udders Udders then switched to Others.
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26. "RE: T Minus ..." |
For a second there, I thought he was gonna say "Starboard"
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36. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Why did Desmound make John Lock type in the numbers? Is there a plane flying by? Also why did Lock take off his shoes when entering the main room? Also what is the symbol on everything in the Hatch?
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60. "RE: T Minus ..." |
LAST EDITED ON 09-29-05 AT 04:26 AM (EST)Edited to say that I can see a snake, as well, but believe it to be a swan for now. As to the clock...
We get three shots of the "clock" display, which is the old "flip-numbers" style.
First, in successive seconds...
 
Then, after Locke types the numbers and hits execute, the numbers roll... 
And finally stop here: 
To me, this indicates 108 minutes and zero seconds remaining. And I'm theorizing that Desmond has been in the hold for quite some time, never getting more than 105 minutes of sleep before that alarm wakes him. Sleep deprivation has made him more than a little edgy. I've looked on the Internet for Apollo chocolate bars, to no avail. Did anyone recognize the packaging? Or do you think it was created by the production team to provide another anacronism from the 1968-75 era? 
 
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69. "RE: T Minus ... Apollo candy" |
Maybe Desmond is from the Japan army and that he has been sent there to veiw the Island cause its near Figi.
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63. "RE: T Minus ..." |
The Logo is a take off on the Bagua
We use it in Tai Chi (the 8 symbols around the edge corrospond to 8 movements known as the 8 gates. There is another internal Art Baguazhang which uses that symbol even more heavily). The eight trigrams are combined together to form the 64 symbols of the I Ching. 108 is a magical number in China (and India I find) http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com/articledt.php?art_id=107 has info about this number.. Boone had Chinese numbers on his t-shirt (eight four if I recall correctly) Somehow I do not think this is all an accident
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68. "RE: T Minus ... Bagua/Island" |
Well it is a basis of explaining all that exists in chinese cosmology (From Wuji (nothingness, stillness) comes Taiji (intent, movement, distinction). Taiji creats Yin and Yang (dark, cold, receptive, soft and bright, warm, expansive, hard) and from yin and yang all else comes into being. The Bagua is one of the steps from two things to everything (traditional 10,000 things). You have that 8 the 8 combine in all possible ways to make the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching. Most of this is about how one thing will always change into another and you can't stop the process and how everything inter-relates with other things. So in one sense all things on the island must relate to the Bagua as all things in existance do. All the people on the island have inter-relations they don't know about. They are all going through changes. But it is such a general underlying concept of all of creation you could do the Bagua of any show. It may just be used because it is a cool symbol and be a red herring.
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41. "RE: T Minus ..." |
My thoughts exactly. I think every episode gives us more riddles than answers.... the further we go into this show, the more riddled it is. We still don't know what the 'monster' is other than some kind of 'security device'.......
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35. "RE: T Minus ..." |
LAST EDITED ON 09-28-05 AT 10:17 PM (EST)When Desmond's alarm sounded we saw a digital clock clicking down, by seconds ... 2:38... 2:37... 2:36... and it reset to 108:00 when Locke typed in the sequence. Apparently, something would happen at 0:00 that might displease Desmond.
If our man Desmond has been on the island for a long period of time, then it seems he has been entrusted with typing in the sequence before 108 minutes elapses. Which means the guy hasn't had more than 90 minutes of sleep in a very long time. And that might explain his mental state. I don't know why Desmond is there, but he certainly doesn't seem too happy. His "are you him?" question sounded to me like the man has spent a serious tour of duty waiting for his replacement. And in the meantime has been convinced the rest of the world was consumed by a plague of some sort.
At the end, Michael and Sawyer are met by Jin, who is struggling to get away from people he called The Others. But Jin has a serious language barrier. I think those people are the other passengers from Flight 815, who cannot communicate with Jin. They suspect Jin is an enemy, and by extension Michael and Sawyer are enemies. The tail-end survivors subdue and imprison our raft passengers without learning that both groups were passengers on the plane.
During this sequence, we glimpse Mysterious Island Man, who punches Sawyer, and is also seen closing the lid on the underground prison. My guess is that he was on the island before the plane crash, and has aligned with the tail end passengers. He also warned them of Others, and thus the suspicion when three other people turned up.
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37. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Do you think the days Desmond has been counting has been sixteen years? Was he one of the people that came with Danielle? Does he ask Lock if he is him means the person that received the numbers as call for help?
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42. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Do you think Desmonde knows if someone has received the message? Why was he so opened to Lock after he locked Katie up? If he knew there was a sickness maybe he knows that Danielle was on the island ( just a theory).
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47. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Why do you think Desmond plays 70s music cause he has been down there for more than ten years? Also we don't know how much supplies are down there maybe thats not the only supply closet.
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50. "RE: T Minus ..." |
On one of those Hollywood news show, Insider i think, they said the woman's face in the 108 mural was Danielle.
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38. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Ok so I am wondering if Desmonde is some sort of gatekeeper or sentry of making sure that whatever happens when that doomsday clock counts down does not happen. Was he thinking Locke was maybe the one to relieve him? Did Desmonde relieve someone else? Maybe the guy Hurley was friendly with in the asylum? Could explain why that guy kept repeating those numbers. Good catch all on the shark...I did not see it all. Loved Sawyer's line "What are you gonna do? Splash me?" Excellent episode. It is so strange I feel like the answer is right there and just out of my train of thought. Very frustrating but at the same time so exciting. I hope they can maintain this excitement and suspense for the rest of the run. How far away until next Wednesday?  
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40. "RE: T Minus ..." |
I think you are right that Desmond is there as a sentry, entrusted with resetting he clock.Did you see in the last shot of the preview that Locke is on his knees in Desmond's computer room. And did you notice that the computer is in shambles at Locke's feet and the monitor is dangling off the desk? I believe the clock is ticking, and the reset computer is no longer operational. Also, we saw Hurley in the hatch/apartment, Desmond in the jungle, and Kate with a gun. I don't want to wait!!
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49. "RE: T Minus ..." |
Yes, I had forgotten about that, I think there is a connection. I had the impression that Desmond was a highly trained scientist type, and it would seem that would be necessary for such an operation. Somehow I got the impression from the woman that Harley met, that the other guy was kind of a blue collar grunt. But I am confident there is a connection. An issue I am having difficulty accepting is that the hole is being run by Australians (presumably the prior guy was an Aussie). Excuse me, but Austrailians are not exactly known for high tech research.
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53. "White bear" |
Did anyone notice that the present that Michael had for Walt (when they met on the street) was a white polar bear?
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A Prayer for Help against the Foe
Ps. 57.7 · 12.7
A Song or Psalm of David.
1 O God, my heart is fixed;
I will sing and give praise,
even with my glory.
2 Awake, psaltery and harp:
I myself will awake early.
3 I will praise thee, O LORD, among the people:
and I will sing praises unto thee among the nations.
4 For thy mercy is great above the heavens:
and thy truth reacheth unto the clouds.
5 Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens:
and thy glory above all the earth;
6 that thy beloved may be delivered:
save with thy right hand, and answer me.
7 God hath spoken in his holiness;
I will rejoice, I will divide Shechem,
and mete out the valley of Succoth.
8 Gil'e-ad is mine; Manas'seh is mine;
E'phra-im also is the strength of mine head;
Judah is my lawgiver;
9 Moab is my washpot;
over Edom will I cast out my shoe;
over Philis'ti-a will I triumph.
10 Who will bring me into the strong city?
Who will lead me into Edom?
11 Wilt not thou, O God, who hast cast us off?
And wilt not thou, O God, go forth with our hosts?
12 Give us help from trouble:
for vain is the help of man.
13 Through God we shall do valiantly:
for he it is that shall tread down our enemies
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56. " Also---" |
Something that made me mad at the show AGAIN. At the end of last weeks show, they give a preview for the following week etc. It said something like-- everyones fate will be exposed or something like it. CAN NOT remember the exact wording but I know this, BS, nothing even similar was explained. Ken
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58. "RE: Also---" |
I think all that was meant by that preview was that we would get to see what happened to Sawyer, Mike, and Jin, who were conspicuously absent in the second season opener. Whereas the first episode concentrated on the people on the island, the second episode updated us on everyone's condition. Your interpretation of the preview also is legitimate (my mom interpreted it the same way you did), but you usually need to have the most narrow possible reading of the teasers. After all, they always have to save something for the show next week. 
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71. "RE: Also---" |
I feel the same way. The story progressed less in this week's episode than in any other episode. The 15 minutes of flashbacks for Michael and Jack added nothing to the plot. The producers spent 20 minutes of the show essentially replaying the entry to the hatch. The highlight of the show was Michael shooting a Shark (btw, wouldn't that just attract more sharks?).
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57. "RE: White bear" |
I also noticed that when Michael was meeting with the lawyer for the first time there was a shot of the World Trade Center towers out the window.
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72. "RE: White bear" |
I noticed also. One of the writers must have a thing for polar bears.
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78. "RE: Anyone watch Invasion?" |
I tried watching 30 minutes, but could not get my mind off the question: "how does a dorky looking chief of police for a Mayberry size town score a hot looking Doctor twenty years his junior for a wife".
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