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"Trading Spouses; Dec. 6"
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1. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
The CA family is out there! They don't wear shoes. How strange...and they all sleep in the same room (family bedroom).
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12-06-04, 08:18 PM (EST)
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2. "BWAHAHAHAHA!" |
The Nashville mom doing yoga was priceless and then she ran out of the room screaming...I gotta fart!
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12-06-04, 08:49 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Agree" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-04 AT 08:51 PM (EST)Both TN kids were rude to the CA mom! However, the TN mom is cracking me up and I find it interesting that she has pegged the CA family head on! ETA: I feel so sorry for those CA kids because they are not "allowed" to think for themselves! How sad. 
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12-06-04, 09:00 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: She sure did" |
Wow, once you recover from how loud she is the TN mom is very astute. That was a great quote about the old man letting the kids find themselves. I loved it when the father/son combo started talking at the same time like twins. Those kids scare the heck out of me. Sort of like watching what kind of a dad Charles Manson would have made.....
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12-07-04, 06:14 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: She sure did" |
Nashville family are
>plainly rude. Do they
>ever not talk? Perhaps
>someone should put a cosmic
>cup on her saucer to
>shut her up for one
>minute.
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>Cult family is nuts but no
>more so than most of
>the people living in Santa
>CruzMy friends, family and I in NYC don't find them rude or loud at all. I think it depends a lot on where you are from, what you consider to be rude, loud, or disrespectful behavior. Many NATIVE New Yorkers here act just the way the N'Ville family do, and they are just considered to be fun people, who will put the life in any party. I have never been to Santa Cruz, but I will take your word for it that those people are no more nuts than most people there, and in that case, it's one place I will never visit. I am allergic to hippy cult type environmentalist space cadets -- Again, probably due to where I am from, and my background.
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12-07-04, 06:02 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Agree" |
You say the N'Ville daughter "needs to be slapped"??? Breezy, is your name Barbara Gates? LOL!!!
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12-07-04, 05:58 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: WTF?" |
I agree about Poppa -- He reminds me of a cult leader type guy. I agree with the N'Ville mother -- I think the kids (and the mother too) are brainwashed! Those poor barefoot boys -- How are they ever gonna meet any girls! Shoeless, dressed like homeless kids, and being home-schooled and doing everything "with the family" -- they are destined to be virgins till eternity! As I watched, at one point, I thought, if those three are so dependent on Poppas "leadership", what are they gonna do when the old man croaks? They are one VERY WEIRD FAMILY. On the other hand, I LOVE the N'Ville family! The wife is a HOOT, and I love everything about her. She is one FUNNY LADY. And I adore her husband, and I LOVE her kids. They have their mothers great sense of fun and humor. I DO NOT think that the N'Ville daughter was "super rude." I thought she was wonderful. I thought the cult mother was super rude to drag that N'Ville daughter out of bed and force her to do yoga at the crack of dawn at 8:30 am. The way the cult mother behaved during the yoga segment reminded me of Barbara Gates. And WHO WOULD NOT laugh at how serious the cult mother was when she was singing? I like Bluegrass, but really...I was HYSTERICAL when she was singing, particularly when she was outside, singing and then bursting into tears because she missed "the family." I think the N'Ville family is right up there with my favorite Biggins family. And what a GORGEOUS HOUSE they have! I wonder what the parents do for work, to afford such a show place!!!! I can't wait till next week, when the N'Ville mother will no doubt knock Poppa down a few notches! I would love to have the N'Ville mother as a friend -- I think she would keep me laughing so hard, I would be in tears! She is so funny and intelligent.
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12-07-04, 00:14 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
Santa Cruz is home of the most famous Survior ever! Lex and that should answer your question about the type of people who live there.I was not impressed with Nashville mom's observations. Any rational normal individual would see there are problems in a family so isolated and co-dependant on each other. Sleeping in one room, no shoes, only knowing one way of living. doesn't take Dr. Phil to analyze that there is a problem. Cult family are complete control freaks, humorless, paranoid, self involved. An 18 year old boy sitting with his father, practically on his lap with no intellectual or emotional curiousity outside the family boundries. And Pop Pop claiming to not "coerce" his family into compliance. Maybe not overtly but certainly covertly. The mother was on track with music but her emotionless, humorless personality inhibits her from having any connection with anyone. Given that this family has OCD times 10, perhaps it would have been better to compromise. A word not part of the Cult "secret language". However, cannot wait to see the party next week.
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12-07-04, 09:22 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-07-04 AT 09:22 AM (EST)Nanook, a few weeks back we had a huge discussion on home schooling children. I had always thought home schooled children missed alot of growing up things other kids experienced. However, after a lengthy discussion on the forum with others that have/are home schooling their children...I am not so sure. There is a growing number of families going down this road and they make up their own little communities in every city in America. I think they carry sandals with them to enter buildings that don't allow bare feet. I noticed the CA mother was wearing sandals while she traveled. I am sort of looking forward to see if the CA boys have friends their own age. We will hopefully find out at the party. Can't wait till next week! 
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12-07-04, 10:22 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
Sorry for missing the online fun last night, vols! My Early American Seminar met for the last time this semester and we went out for dinner and drinks afterward.But I did remember to set the VCR to catch all the craziness! Wow! I just had to agree with the mother who said that those teenage boys were being brainwashed. I thought that she said it best: "Papa had a chance to find himself. Now those boys need a chance to find themselves." The boys may decide that they wish to live that way, but it would be nice if they had a little more exposure so they could make an informed decision. I was also a little surprised by the other family. If I were to take a tour of their home without them being there, I would have guessed that they act a lot more reserved - but they didn't seem shy or uptight at all! 
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12-08-04, 11:45 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
How fortuitous that you would mention an Early American seminar just when I needed an authoritative opinion on whether 8:30 a.m. is the crack of dawn down there, as a previous poster claimed. If it is, this night owl might consider relocating south.Kidding aside, I agree with the general assessment of the cult family, but I don't see TN mom as the fun-loving person she thinks she is. Every activity is accompanied by her grumbling and snarky comments. I too would balk at some of the more extreme practices, but she complained during fairly innocuous activities such as yoga and going for a hike in the woods. While Papa did try to impose his religion on her, and was patronizing (insisting that she really look at the tree), there were accomodations made for her - she didn't have to adopt the barefoot standard or snuggle up with Papa and the boys at night. Taken out of her comfort zone, her true character is revealed. Definitely not a when-you-get-lemons-make-lemonade kind of person, in my view.
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12-07-04, 12:46 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
I watched the show last night and I just can't believe the way those teen-age boys have been brainwashed! I have a teen-age boy, and it is not natural for those boys to be that way,they are so controlled with no mind of their own. they didn't mention anything about their extended family or any friends. because if they were exposed to the outside world they would want to experience some of it. but, what i am wondering, is how did this family get picked to be on this show? you have to register your family yourself, and since this family doesn't watch tv, how did they even know the show exists? and if they are so opposed to the conventional way of living, then how could they allow someone else into their home, more so, how could he let his wife leave his house and be in the outside world. is anyone out there wondering the same thing, and does anybody know the answer. i am really curious!
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12-07-04, 02:05 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
I think the short answer here is: $50,000. They do beg for a living in the "outside" world and they don't have any qualms about using cashola. Especially if somebody else earned it by working for the man....
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12-07-04, 06:55 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Shoes and health issues" |
If i
>walked barefoot out side right
>now in the middle of
>December I would...
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>1. get very cold feet, possibly
>catch pneumonia or the flu
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>2. step on a piece of
>glass, metal, nail, tack and
>cut my foot
>3. get some kind of disease
>on my foot from all
>the crap that is on
>the ground
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>And if they don't want material
>possesions tying them down why
>the ##### are they driving
>a car??? I don't know about getting a cold from having cold feet -- Normally people get colds or flu from other people who are sick, and pass it along through a cough or from touching their face, and not washing their hands properly. Flu germs, getting passed to others. But I agree that when I saw them walking around, all I could think of was stepping on sharp objects, germs from dog waste and vomit, etc -- and going barefoot, even on hotel room carpeting and bathtubs, gym dressingroom floors, etc, one can EASILY catch toe nail fungus, warts, etc. I have known people who contracted those things at TOP four and five star hotels, and very expensive, elite health clubs and spas around America. I wondered about the car myself! It seemed so out of character. I thought maybe the producers of the show supplied the car, and made it a part of the contract that they drive, because how else would they get the family from place to place with the very smart and funny N'Ville mother. I mean, I don't think she would be anymore likely to ride a bike than I would, at half her weight.
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12-07-04, 06:41 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
but, what i
>am wondering, is how did
>this family get picked to
>be on this show? you
>have to register your family
>yourself, and since this family
>doesn't watch tv, how did
>they even know the show
>exists? You don't have to contact the show to be on it. If you read the article about the Cajun family that has Zam's Swamp Tour, they never contacted the show. They are well known around the French Quarter, and when producers went to New Orleans to interview families who contacted them, they kept hearing about the Loupe family. So they went out to Zam's and after meeting Dianna, Diego, and ZZ, they asked them to be on the show. I would GUESS maybe a similar thing happened with the Abbotts. Maybe people in the town told the producers about them, or maybe producers saw them busking in the square and approached them on their own. Rest assured, it had to be Poppas SOLE decision to be on the show, because maybe he wanted to "educate and enlighten" the world, hoping that more people would shed their shoes and learn Cantonese -- or maybe he just figured it would take many days of playing Bluegrass on the street to earn a cool $50,000.00.
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12-07-04, 08:01 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
The cult family live in Santa Cruz and as I live approximately an hour away I have probably seen them and many more like them in the area.They aren't that odd given the city. And there is a whole group of people in the Bay Area that advocate barefoot walking... I wish I could recall their name and web address... but anyway they are no wierder than any of the people I meet here on a daily basis. Santa Cruz is a college town and the town has had issues about the homeless and begging and tried to pass an anti panhandling issue last year to mixed success. And despite the state legislation about being barefoot in restaurants and stores... try enforcing it. What cop is coming to arrest/ticket said offender. Hey we have nearly 10,000 homeless in San Francisco alone. I suspect the Taoist "church" they run generates some income we will be seeing their "members" I am sure next week! And to frank despite their alternative lifestyle you need a car here to get out to nature... how ironic. I don't know how many ex-hippies here forsake their environmental values for a Volvo. I also found it odd that they did speak Chinese. I wonder how Grandpa learned the language. He must have been in China although his logic behind why they needed to learn the language was well PARANOID but at least there was something there that may help these kis escape...oops I mean leave. But has anyone tried to figure out the ages of Grandpa? He looks to be hitting 60 and Mama Hippie about 40... although the lifestyle could age you.. another irony. But I wonder how those two hooked up.. Did he kidnap her for his wierd religion and is it his brother currently on trial in Utah for Elizabeth Smart's kidnapping?
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12-08-04, 08:09 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
"I suspect the Taoist "church" they run generates some income we will be seeing ..."I agree RangeRover. "Did he kidnap her for his wierd religion and is it his brother currently on trial in Utah for Elizabeth Smart's kidnapping? " LOL, that one was pretty good. I keep expecting to find out he has 6 other "wives" and 27 more children stashed around somewhere. I think his wife mentioned meeting him through a letter he either sent out to 100 people or posted in the press or something. Maybe Lex introduced them.
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35. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-08-04 AT 12:24 PM (EST)Well we will know if Lex was the matchmaker next week!! Wait, he likes punk or rock? Could you see his band and Cult family in concert? That I would pay absolutely nothing to see. And don't have to because most likely they are all busking on the streets in SC. Edited to add the following... There is a webpage that the Abbotts discuss their experience..www.playingbyear.com and one other message board regarding Taoists that discuss the episode...www.centertao.org Read these and you will get a deeper impression of Grandpa...
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40. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-13-04 AT 03:20 PM (EST)The thing that ticked me off, was the fact that the Yoga hippies were forcing their beliefs on the other family. The mom waking the family to "do her yoga thing". Then the other mom had to do what Poppy wanted. The whackos weren't open to anything from the TN family. Ole Poppy is the root of all evil in the family. Not only are the boys brainwashed but so is the wife. And how do they earn a living? You gotta know they can't smell particularly nice either. And how did they know of this show to be a contestant if they don't believe in TV? Can we assume the boys have been homeschooled? They certainly wouldn't mainstream too well in today's public schools.
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42. "RE: Trading Spouses; Dec. 6" |
The thing that ticked me off, was the fact that the Yoga hippies were forcing their beliefs on the other family. The mom waking the family to "do her yoga thing". Then the other mom had to do what Poppy wanted. The whackos weren't open to anything from the TN family.>>I AGREE. BUT I LIKED THE JAM SEGMENT -- WHEN I TRIED TO THINK OF THE MUSIC VICKI WOULD PLAY, I PREDICTED SHE WOULD PLAY ARETHA FRANKLIN'S "RESPECT"! AND I REALLY LIKED VICKIS' SINGING THE BLUES, AND THE BLUEGRASS GANG SEEMED TO BE HAVING FUN TOO! <<Ole Poppy is the root of all evil in the family. Not only are the boys brainwashed but so is the wife.>> I AGREE. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN VICKI WAS ABLE TO GET THE TRUTH OUT OF POPPA ABOUT THE ROOT OF HIS FEAR, AND FIND OUT WHY HE HAD TO KEEP EVERYONE SO CLOSE TO HIM. AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SHOW, HE HAD SAID HE NEVER CRIES, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN TEARS, BECAUSE HE THINKS YOU ARE JUST CRYING FOR YOURSELF WHEN YOU SHED TEARS. BUT HE CRIED WHEN HE SPOKE OF THE LOSS OF HIS BROTHER, AND THE ROOT OF HIS CONTROL ISSUES. I WAS IMPRESSED BY THAT. HOWEVER, I DOUBT IF THE CHANGES VICKI STARTED TO MAKE WILL CONTINUE -- JUDGING FROM WHAT POPPA SAID AT THE END, ABOUT HOW SHE WANTED LUKE TO DRIVE AND GO TO COLLEGE, AND HOW POPPA STILL THINKS "NO GOOD COMES FROM ANY OF THAT."
<<And how do they earn a living? You gotta know they can't smell particularly nice either.>> I AGREE -- THEY DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THEY WOULD SMELL TOO GOOD. THEY EARN A LIVING WITH THE RENTAL UNITS, AND THEY ALSO HAVE WEBSITES -- SOMETHING ABOUT TEACHING MUSIC I THINK. AND OFCOURSE THEY PLAY MUSIC ON STREETCORNERS, BEGGING FOR MONEY. IF POPPA WAS NOT LEFT THAT REAL ESTATE IN HIS RELATIVES WILL, I FIGURE THEY MIGHT ALL BE LIVING IN THE PARK THOUGH. <<And how did they know of this show to be a contestant if they don't believe in TV?>> ON THEIR WEBSITE IT SAYS THAT THE FOX SHOW SAW THEIR WEBSITE AND CONTACTED THEM TO BE ON THE SHOW. <<Can we assume the boys have been homeschooled? They certainly wouldn't mainstream too well in today's public schools.>>
IN THE FIRST EPISODE, IT SHOWED HOW POPPA TEACHES THE BOYS AT HOME. HE WAS TRYING TO SHOW ONE OF THE BOYS HOW TO MAKE MAGNETS OUT OF PAPERCLIPS, THOUGH OFCOURSE THAT DIDN'T WORK.
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