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cqvenus 9764 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-15-04, 07:56 PM (EST) "Trading Spouses 11.15.04" please tell me someone else is out there watching this right now, because it is truly and completely hilarious. already. and it's only been like 3 nanoseconds. someone else has to be out there watching this right now so we can talk about this... please... omg... we can't let this slide you guys! ~ cq the bible thumpers have me ready to LMAO   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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tempo 61 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 11-15-04, 08:22 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" The Christian woman is a nut case. I am embarassed to be Christian right now. I beg all non-Christians to believe me when I say we are not all like that.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

buffett_girl 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 11-15-04, 08:37 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" i cannot believe that you say you are embarassed to be a christian because of this woman. i am not a christian and i see her positive outlook and willingness to try new things as a refreshing change from the people you meet in the everyday world. the jewish woman is such an incredible close-minded ##### that if i were jewish i would be embarassed to admit i shared her beliefs. 'putting on a happy face?' wtf is that? while we say how stupid an activity is or refuse to compromise and see how another religion practices? that is the smallest person i believe i've ever seen on tv. and that's saying a lot. since we all know the crap they put on tv.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cqvenus 9764 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-15-04, 08:51 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" i can't believe you think that woman's "positive outlook" was refreshing. she is a looney tune. exhibit A: the candy bar talk. OMFG. dirty grunged up candy bar = this is what you give your husband if you're promiscuous. where the hell do these people come from? psycho. ~ cq   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

nopaw7 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 11-15-04, 08:46 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" that Jewish lady is heartless and cold. that is reflected in her children. talk about a bunch o bitches!!! I'm not a fan of the christian lady (nutjob), but the Jewish "lady" is soooo stereotypical. I've known Jews and most of them are like that. they are out for themselves and if you dont conform, then your not good enough. typical Jew...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

tempo 61 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 11-15-04, 08:50 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Alright I see we are getting into a very touchy subject here....I hope no one looks at these people as representative of their respective religions. FoX is really asking for it by putting these extreme types up there. This is a very controversial episode. I think both sides behaved badly. I am most disappointed in the kids that didn't bother to get up and say goodbye to the lady. That was plain rude and I hope it was a misunderstanding and they weren't raised that way. I really think this show should not have been aired. Its just going to cause a lot of anger and hurt feelings.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

buffett_girl 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 11-15-04, 09:03 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" i am in no way saying that the woman was not a "nutjob". however she was willing to join in the families activities and not throw degrating barbs at them. if anyone truly believes that these two are in any way reprsentitve of their entire religious body, then they only prove themselves to be small minded and ignorant. just as it is to say all jews are "out for themselves" is a biggoted archie bunker-like comment. grow up and open your mind. otherwise don't venture out of the box that you have made for yourself.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Bebo 20880 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-15-04, 09:15 PM (EST) 7. "WARNINGS" nopaw and buffett_girl, please take a moment to read the Community Guidelines. There's a link at the top of this page. nopaw, that sort of hate speech is not tolerated here. Please remember that in future postings if you wish to continue posting here. buffett_girl, bashing other posters is not permitted here. When another poster violates the guidelines, you should hit the Alert button that you'll find in the bottom left-hand corner pf every post and let the moderators handle it. Two wrongs don't make a right.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Gina99 76 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 11-15-04, 11:32 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" LAST EDITED ON 11-15-04 AT 11:33 PM (EST) 'I've known Jews and most of them are like that. they are out for themselves and if you dont conform, then your not good enough. typical Jew... ' No one in my family nor my Jewish friends nor myself are as you describe. Please be careful with your posts. Thank you   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RangeRover 262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-16-04, 00:20 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Well I think the real problem is arrogance. Each week on both this and Wife Swap we have people who believe THEIR way is the right/best/superior way. They enroll on this show to SHOW OFF not to learn or to share. Then when they get there find out that its not going to be quite like a box of chocolate - and not in a sexual way. Honestly the ignorance that continues to be displayed is what is disappointing. Its as if they have never met anyone or been anywhere outside of their four walls or within 50 feet of those who are "different." The Fegly woman was fugly in my mind. Very angry, controlling and closed minded. The Christian Cheerleader mom seemed out of touch and out of her mind but willing to try. But if either of them learned anything of value I would be suprised.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

tempo 61 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 11-16-04, 00:23 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Does anyone know if this show is going to be re-played? I can't believe what I saw and I want to see it again.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Nanook 189 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-16-04, 01:18 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" I noticed everything happened in tonight's episode. Is it no longer a two-parter show? Not that I care, because it's not really necessary to have two parts. Anyway, I admit at first I thought the California family was going to be rude and arrogant, because that's the sort of personality I've been seeing from many Californians on this show. They turned out to be quite nice though. They seemed a bit fruity when it came to religion, but I liked the mom a lot. She seemed really sweet. I thought the Jewish woman had an attitude. I don't understand why she kept saying she put on a happy face when all she ever showed was a stone cold expression. I thought her kids were rude. I felt bad when they were inside making fun of her, while Christian mom was sitting outside crying. I don't think she could hear them, but still. That one girl actually had the nerve to call her a coldheared b*tch?! Also, it was rude that the kids didn't get up to say goodbye to her when she left. Not even the dad got up, so I was disappointed in him for that. The Christian kids got up to say goodbye to the Jewish mom, even though she probably didn't deserve it. I'm looking forward to next week. Looks like another treehugging family.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

celinedion1 102 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-16-04, 03:42 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Yeah I watched tonight show and I could not believe how cold hearted the jewish mom was. She had this stone cold expression on her face the whole time and she wasnt up for trying anything that the cristian family did. The only thing she did was went to the bible study and all she did there was sit there, look bored, and the whole time she was there she had this really cold expression on her face. Then she left before the thing even ended I thught that was rude of her. I also thought that it was rude of the kids to stay in bed and husband stay in bed when the cristian woman left. I thought that they could of at least got up to tell her bye. Even the christian family did that for the stone cold jewish woman, even though they probably didn have to. Also did you see the preview for next weeks episode? When the one woman who was the animal rights activist told the kid to apologize to the tree that he hurt it, I almost fell off of the couch laughing I thought that was soo funny. Also I thought that it was funny when the on mom asked the animal rights family do you think its safe, when the kids were gonna go into a lake or be around crocadiles. When did trading spouces become a single hour long show and not two parts. Tonight was the first night i've watched it since i watched the premire and i notived that it was an hour long show without it being broken into two parts. Is that just for this episode or did the discontenue with the two part thingy?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

thndrkttn 3216 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 11-16-04, 08:51 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" I watched it CQ. I was irritated with the candy bar discussion. I found it to be wholly innappropriate and rather naive to be quite honest. But what really bothered me was the Christian mother running around saying that she was going to "bless" this and "bless" that and "bless" the family. While I can appreciate her upbeat and optomistic attitude, who is she to be blessing people that are not asking to be blessed? Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it the job of ministers/reverends/people of the church to be blessing others? Those are certainly the only people I would want to be doing that sort of thing. Case in point--the minister who married my husband and myself wouldn't even "bless us". She felt it was God's job and asked Him to bless us. -is not even remotely religious, ftr.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

tempo 61 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 11-16-04, 09:01 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Both of the mothers had really extreme qualities and that's why they chose them for the show, because it makes good TV. But I think FOX has done a disservice to both born-again Christians and liberal Jewish people by choosing them. There are plenty of Christians who are not that flaky, just as there are many secular Jews who are plenty warm and friendly, but it looks like Fox was just chosing stereotypes in order to make the show interesting. I'm particularly upset with the choice of the Jewish family for this reason. TV generally pretends that Jewish people don't exist..for example name one sitcom where there is a Jewish family? People in middle-America in totally Christian communities have no frame of reference for Judaism and this portrayal places Jews in a very bad light. Especially from looking at some of the posts on this topic it has made me think that some people's limited views are only going to be reinforced after watching this program. Just my thoughts.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RangeRover 262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-16-04, 09:35 AM (EST) 16. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" I have to agree that we are lacking imagery about Judasim or in fact any other religion on TV except "Christianity" and even that is vague in denomination and faith.. other than 7th Heaven or Joan of Arcadia, which is new age secular with some mention now of Catholicism.. we aren't really clear who practices what and how. Where are the Hindu's, Buddhists, or Muslim. The only time we see anyone practice anything outside of mainstream Christian doctrine they are usually nuts. I think what is sad is that again with the approach of this show the idea to learn and to teach, the concept of learning has gone right out the window. And the idea of "teaching" seems to be ramming one's view down their throat. There is no exchange of ideas... Christian dad was willing and wanted to go to Synagogue.. and Jewish mom refused. Why? Because she wanted to keep this "outsider" status, she liked the whole idea of being a martyr. That had nothing to do I believe with solely her religion but with her PERSONALITY. She was rude the second she arrived, trashing the neighborhood, their home, everything. This was such a hardship on her... that is her whole being.. "oh woe is me" Frankly she mocked their strange family outing but at least it was historical in tone, they enjoyed it and she apparently thinks that no one else can share in understanding the Revolution or Civil war other than those who live on the East Coast. There was that whole "stereotype" as well.. in fact it was even mentioned by the kids... east vs west. All reality shows play to stereotypes - I really believe Mark Burnett is to blame...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PagongRatEater 12973 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-16-04, 09:56 AM (EST) 17. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Dead on, Range Rover! Welcome to the boards.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PagongRatEater 12973 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-16-04, 09:28 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Actually, being a Blessing to someone is just acting as God's vessel for that Blessing - anyone can do it. While I think the Christian lady was extreme and a tad niave, she was very positive the whole time, tried to help in the way that she knew how and never (that we saw) tried to convert ot proselytize to these people. When the show started, I was prepared to be really angry at her for giving Christians a bad name, but at the end of it she and her family came across as rather Pollyannish rather than just mean. Mrs. Fegly on the other hand, as well as her poorly mannered, bickering brats, should be embarassed. She was obviously doing the show for one reason and one reason only, the money. She was not open to any new experiences, had a GIANT chip on her shoulder about her faith and expended ZERO effort in being a part of her temporary family. Her only attempt at helping was to teach about her kind of food, which I took more as self-promotion than honest "try something new, learn about my culture" intent. She went to the Bible study but showed up over an hour late. I don't care what religion you are that is rude. The Christians were quirky, chipper and a bit overzealous, but the Fegly's were just mean, rude and angry. I'll take odd any day over rude. It's no suprise they cut this one down to one episode, it was an ugly display of how this experiment can go very, VERY wrong.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cqvenus 9764 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-16-04, 11:18 AM (EST) 18. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" i like the jewish mom. she made me laugh. a lot. because she was real. to me, anyway. in real life, people walk around and make fun of stuff. at least, in *my* real life, that's what we do. if i were on that revolutionary crap with my family, we would've been making fun of it the whole time. but that's *our* idea of FUN. so your saying she was not into it is ignorant to the fact that some people have fun in different ways, believe it or not. you don't have to be super chipper and what i consider to be annoying in order to be funny and fun. ~ cq   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PagongRatEater 12973 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-16-04, 11:54 AM (EST) 19. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" She wasn't into ANY of it though. She carped and criticized and complained from the moment she walked in the door. Making fun of stuff is one thing, being rude to your hosts and making fun of THEM is not an acceptable practice where I come from. When you are a guest in someone's house, you are gracious and polite - and she was neither. Was the Revolutionary stuff goofy? Maybe - the whole family was goofy. Her issue was as much with doing the thing as her whole regional bias against it's location. I went into this show fully expecting to feel empathy for that woman and came out angry and disgusted. I'd never invite a person like that into my house and bear them with such grace as that poor California family that had to deal with her horrible attitude.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cqvenus 9764 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-16-04, 06:31 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" one might elect to argue that your preconceived notions caused your disappointment in this woman's behavior whereas if you had not preformed opinions you might've been able to just have a good time. you know, like the "poor california family" did. ~ cq   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-16-04, 12:19 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Boy did they pick a couple opposites for this show. The perky Anne Marie would have driven me crazy. The wake-up song was a bit much. And it's great that she is so upbeat and wants to bless people. But not everyone likes to be hugged and blessed all the time. So she should have considered their feelings too, not just what she wanted to do. And I wonder what her children's oppinions of chocolate are now. But the Jewish mother also needed to try a little harder to go along with the other family. Sure the trip was a little quirky. But she was making fun of something the family enjoyed doing which translates into the fact she was making fun of them. Not the polite thing to do.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

yourstruly 64 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 11-16-04, 02:00 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" I thought this show was kind of sad. I agree with PRE in that I was really prepared to be angry at the Christian family. However I was most upset with the Jewish family. One of my best friends is Jewish. She was almost in tears after this show. As I told her. The actions here were all about their personalities not their religions. The Christian woman struck me as very nervous. Most likely she felt unwanted from the first. She seemed to be majorly overcompensating. It disturbed me how important it was to her to be liked. She seemed to have a true desire for service to others yes. But it almost seemed to extend into a personal need. Personally, I did not have a problem with the blessing. It is something all Christians strive for- to be a blessing to others. To let Christ work through you and not hinder his message. Few people are so verbal about it. I think even nonChristians probably have a similiar wish. To be a help to others. To make thier lives better for coming in contact with you rather than worse. The other woman made no effort. She was bitter and selfcentered. This had nothing to do with her being Jewish just as the Christian woman's insecurities had nothing to do with her Christian faith.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RangeRover 262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-16-04, 05:20 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" LAST EDITED ON 11-16-04 AT 06:02 PM (EST) I think we keep thinking what WE consider fun or interesting other people don't and that is fine. However it is NOT fine to mock other people when you are in their company when they have invited you into their home and life to exchange ideas/families or whatever. When you are with family and friends riffing on something privately amongst yourselves is perfectly acceptable but to invite someone along - an aquaintance or friend and then to have them diss you or mock your ideas of fun is rude. Not only was the Cher-lookalike mom rude she was condescending. She outright lied to the woman to her face, apparently unconcerned with the fact that she would see the show, she was judgmental, arrogant and unpleasant to everyone around her. That is not acceptable. As for the Christian Cheerleader, everytime she said "blessed" I thought, "who sneezed?" but I got used to it and anyone else would have to. We are talking a week here not a lifetime. But the Jewish family would have none of her.. for each of her blessings they kept reminding us that they were "Jewish and Democrats" and somehow that made them superior to her. Again, rude and not respectful. Of course the Christian Cheerleader was a little offput by the fact that they had a "party" in her home and that it "smelled" and that inference was one I percieved as nasty. Most of it I believe resulting from the fact that Cher refused to allocate the funds for college as she did for the other family. Again, assuming everyone shares your values - from money, religion, politics and education is naieve. But I understood her and again respected her but to each his or her own. And that concept is lost very much on most of these participants it seems.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

thndrkttn 3216 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 11-17-04, 09:58 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" As for the Christian Cheerleader, every time she said "blessed" I thought, "who sneezed?" but I got used to it and anyone else would have to. Speak for yourself. This/she would have annoyed me to the point where I would have from removed myself from her presence every single chance I got.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RangeRover 262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-17-04, 06:05 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" Oh I agree it was annoying. But I never understand the theatrics associated with volunteering to join this show. They get 50G's and frankly its a few days. I have spent time with family for no money who were a lot worse than this so I cannot understand the constant whining and whinging. THEY NEED TO GET OVER IT!! The purpose of this show seems twofold: A sociological/cultural anthropological study. Allowing people a quick view of how others live. Putting very different people with very different values together and seeing what results. Keeping your head together for a few days and trying to make the best of it for 50Gs seems a lot easier than eating bugs on Fear Factor. And how many hours are you all really spending together.. kids in school or away, dad at work. What is the big deal. The second purpose is: The Grass is Always Greener. You always think it may be better elsewhere. In this case so far most of the families have proven that they believe their lives are far superior to the others. And they can't wait to go home and back to them. The one difference between TS and WS is the fact that WS has no money and has a rule guidelines for 2 weeks to really try and push the experiment further as a learning tool. And we have seen people actually learn - kicking and screaming but some positive change has occurred. TS participants think apparently they are going to thier equivalent somewhere else and its an easy 50G's but when is it something for nothing?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cqvenus 9764 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-16-04, 06:39 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Trading Spouses 11.15.04" She was bitter and selfcentered. the christian cheerleader *lol* was self-centered as well. she effin' tried to get the dad to have that horrible candy bar talk with his kids! oh, wait. did you notice that she only wanted him to have it with the *girls*? she specifically said GIRLS. now, i'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that the BOY was simply too young for this inspiring candy bar talk, because i truly shudder to think she actually feels this conversation is only appropriate to girls. it is truly none of her business the sexual activities or lack thereof of the children. she's there for a few flippin' days. i think it's slightly beyond encroaching on someone's space to try to get through to their kids about sex. and that woman was a crybaby galore. things didn't go here way... e.g. the kids didn't bounce up all perky and love the day and hug her and smile at god or whatever so she cried. well, she needs to stop taking everything so personally. and her "i really want her to like me" crap was a bunch of poo. if she's so into helping people, she should feel good knowing she tried her best and god loves her (or whatever), and not be so self-centered that she has to shake like a leaf that the woman might not like her and cry cuz the kids didn't like her. cher? *lol* again. needs an attitude adjustment. but the christian cheerleader needs therapy because she has issues of self-loathing that her religion are not helping her get over. the one thing missing from this show that -truly- disappointed me was that i really wanted the christians to try to give the jews jesus. now *that* would've been funny. ~ cq Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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