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"Wife Swap"
Who is watching? Tonight's episode had me cracking up! Anyone agree?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Wife Swap HuskiesFan 09-27-04 1
   RE: Wife Swap guynike 09-27-04 2
       RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-27-04 5
           RE: Wife Swap guynike 09-27-04 6
               RE: Wife Swap Magpie1950 09-27-04 7
                   RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-27-04 8
           RE: Wife Swap Magpie1950 09-27-04 16
   RE: Wife Swap San 10-01-04 56
   RE: Wife Swap czaring 01-10-05 67
 MIssed It samboohoo 09-27-04 3
   RE: MIssed It volsfan 09-27-04 4
       Extreme Makeover weltek 09-27-04 12
           Off Topic but... volsfan 09-27-04 14
 RE: Wife Swap Swami 09-27-04 9
   RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-27-04 10
   RE: Wife Swap ARnutz 09-29-04 35
       RE: Wife Swap realityshowgeek 10-01-04 53
 RE: Wife Swap MTW1961 09-27-04 11
   RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-27-04 13
       RE: Wife Swap bdemoney 09-27-04 15
           RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-27-04 17
               RE: Wife Swap Mr Canuck 09-28-04 31
           RE: Wife Swap ARnutz 09-29-04 36
       RE: Wife Swap HuskiesFan 09-27-04 18
 RE: Wife Swap StarryLuna 09-27-04 19
   RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-27-04 20
       RE: Wife Swap bdemoney 09-27-04 21
 RE: Wife Swap Nanook 09-27-04 22
   RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-27-04 23
       RE: Wife Swap Nanook 09-27-04 24
           RE: Wife Swap IslandFever 09-28-04 25
               RE: Wife Swap bdemoney 09-28-04 26
 RE: Wife Swap Loree 09-28-04 27
   RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-28-04 28
 RE: Wife Swap Femme 09-28-04 29
   RE: Wife Swap HuskiesFan 09-28-04 30
       RE: Wife Swap Swami 09-28-04 32
   RE: Wife Swap volsfan 09-28-04 33
       RE: Wife Swap Femme 09-28-04 34
 Wife Swap Episode 2 volsfan 09-29-04 37
   RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 ARnutz 09-29-04 38
       RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 Swami 09-29-04 39
           RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 volsfan 09-29-04 40
   RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 volsfan 09-29-04 41
       RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 volsfan 09-29-04 42
           RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 Mysterious Jedi 09-30-04 43
               RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 Tamena 09-30-04 44
                   RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 volsfan 09-30-04 45
                   RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 oliveoil 09-30-04 46
                       RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 volsfan 09-30-04 51
   Vols, next time start a new thread ... Swami 09-30-04 47
       RE: Vols, next time start a new thr... volsfan 09-30-04 52
   RE: Wife Swap Episode 2 Tahj 09-30-04 49
 RE: Wife Swap Nanook 09-30-04 48
   RE: Wife Swap Swami 09-30-04 50
   RE: Wife Swap Loree 10-01-04 54
       RE: Wife Swap ARnutz 10-01-04 57
   RE: Wife Swap HistoryDetective 10-01-04 55
       RE: Wife Swap ARnutz 10-01-04 58
           RE: Wife Swap Katiepops 10-07-04 59
 RE: Wife Swap Magpie1950 10-07-04 60
   RE: Wife Swap RealityRyan 10-07-04 61
   RE: Wife Swap amea_gari 10-07-04 62
       RE: Wife Swap Singsing 10-07-04 63
       RE: Wife Swap Tamena 10-07-04 64
           RE: Wife Swap Magpie1950 10-07-04 65
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1. "RE: Wife Swap"
Vols..

Was that TOO funny or what!!I happen to know the family from CT and they were exactly as shown on the show! What you saw, was what it is....Personally, not exactly my kind of lifestyle! Either of them!

There were 2 things in the show that stood out most for me.

The first was when they showed the PA family home on the hill with "Psycho" music playing in the background. I nearly fell off my chair!

The second was when they were talking to the oldest boy from the PA family and he said "right now I'm not missing my mom much...." Sweetie..I understand WHY! I hope things changed for you since the show!

From what I understand, this show will be aired again sometime in late October, so if anyone missed it, they can catch it again. It is definately worth coming back for!

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2. "RE: Wife Swap"
Ok... I'm not sure what episode I watched last night, all I know is the family with all the animals needs to be turned into child services for letting those children live in that disgusting house. How could anyone live like that and think it's okay? That family NEEDED to be insulted! I'm not a neat freak by any means, but to walk around the house, stepping over dog crap and cat urine... how appauling!
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5. "RE: Wife Swap"
Well, I don't agree with all the animals running around. I have a dog and when she was a pup, she had a couple of accidents but she is completely trained and hasn't had an accident in forever!

Also, was that a baby kangaroo running around? If so, what kind of laws control this kind of stuff? Did the couple have to get a special permit to have it?


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6. "RE: Wife Swap"
Yes, it was a kangaroo, on top of all the other types of animals in that house. I have no idea how you can acquire a kangaroo or a ferret or any of those other types of animals. LOL

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an animal hater but at some point you have to draw a line - that or get a bigger house. There didn't seem to be any discipline at all, I mean, if you never train an animal to go outside, how will it learn?

I guess it's just not for me, I couldn't stand it. I was getting sick to my stomach watching it.

And I don't think the other family had it any better either. I mean, sweeping the road for goodness sake. I'm all for a cleaner environment, but seriously? LOL

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7. "RE: Wife Swap"
25 pets is a tad to many. OMG can you imagine the stench? I give the tidy wife a thumbs up for cleaning that house....she had to be gagging the whole time.

What a sterile inviroment the messy mom was thrown into. I mean 5 hours a day cleaning your house???? I am lucky if I spend that much time a week.

I loved the outcome...Tidy wife accepting the kitten, and easing up on being so rigid.

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8. "RE: Wife Swap"
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I feel sorry for the tidy kids. Can you imagine what kind of life they have lead? NO NOISE! That is absolutely the dumbest thing I have ever heard!

ETA: I have a friend that had two ferrets...he is a neat freak and I have to admit, his house had a smell to it because of those animals! I can't imagine how you even start to get used to something like that. I don't know that I could even go to sleep at night. Could you?

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16. "RE: Wife Swap"
>Well, I don't agree with all
>the animals running around. I
>have a dog and when
>she was a pup, she
>had a couple of accidents
>but she is completely trained
>and hasn't had an accident
>in forever!
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>Also, was that a baby kangaroo
>running around? If so, what
>kind of laws control this
>kind of stuff? Did the
>couple have to get a
>special permit to have it?
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I was thinking the same thing. I didn't even think you could purchase such a thing....hummmmm

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56. "RE: Wife Swap"
Does anyone know if they get paid to do this show? At least on Trading Spouses, they get $50,000. Basically the same kind of show.
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67. "RE: Wife Swap"
Just watched a taped version of this show on a tape I'd made in December.

Does Bambi have a job? I wondered during the show - I don't think they ever said.

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3. "MIssed It"
I fell asleep watching Extreme Makeover, so I missed the end of that too.


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4. "RE: MIssed It"
I boo hooed at Extreme Makeover...GREAT STORY!

However, you missed a great show!

When that boy said he wasn't missing his mother, I was like...no wonder!

Try and catch the re-run if you can!


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12. "Extreme Makeover"
I bawled my eyes out at Extreme Makeover Home Ed. last night. What an incredibly deserving family. How moving that the whole community turned out & that the GC did such an awesome, timely job. My hubby wasn't home so I curled up on the couch with some Kleenex & sobbed.


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14. "Off Topic but..."
I don't think anyone in the gym at the end had a dry eye! The dad really choked me up and you could tell that he was/is totally crushed by the loss of his wife! The family seems to really support each other though and that is good to see!


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9. "RE: Wife Swap"
I thought the show was hilarious, Vols!

Messy Mom seems like a nice person, but clueless. Having all the pets running loose & (evidently) defecating indoors regularly is just plain stupid. I can't imagine her youngest as a baby, crawling around on that floor and putting things in her mouth!

Anal Mom was over the top too, cleaning her family into emotional sterility. But she did get a clue from her experience. She even enjoys the new cat! Her whole family benefitted from her experience. I'm sure her house is still scrupiously clean but no longer just a shrine to cleanliness.

My DH kept waiting for the part where the husbands got to sleep with their new wives...


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10. "RE: Wife Swap"
I am still giggling! You just knew when the anal mom was talking that she was going to be in a house that wasn't clean! But, the 25 animals were a bit much!

I too can not imagine that poor little girl crawling around like that. I think the messy mom is just plain lazy! There is no reason for any family to have a house that messy. I felt sorry for the husband of the messy mom.

I am so glad the anal let the kids keep the cat and seemed like she did learn somethings from the show!

I had a friend ask me if they slept in the same bed! HEHEHE!


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35. "RE: Wife Swap"
My DH kept waiting for the part where the husbands got to sleep with their new wives...

Now that might make the show more interesting...

Where did they find these people?? If I were like the messy mom. I'd be embarrassed to let my house be on TV

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53. "RE: Wife Swap"
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>Where did they find these people??
>If I were like the
>messy mom. I'd be embarrassed
>to let my house be
>on TV


These families were on Oprah this week (I think Monday's show) and messy mom refused to appear on the show. Anal mom said she thinks it was because she was afraid of being embarrassed. Can't say that I blame her. That was a "House of Squalor".

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11. "RE: Wife Swap"
I pretty much agree with what everyone is saying - both moms were over the top - 25 animals is far too many, and anal mom needs to chill.

BUT - I need to give anal mom major props. What she did - adding MUCH NEEDED discipline and some semblance of order was much tougher than what the other mom did - adding fun and a relaxed attitude. Anal mom was forced to play the bad guy role, while the other got to be the buddy. Plus, she's right. Those kids need parents, not friends!

Also, it seems like she learned her lesson way better than the other mom did. I think messy mom proved that she is extremely immature and lazy.



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13. "RE: Wife Swap"
I agree with everything you say. I am so happy to see the anal mom learn a lesson.

When lazy mom came out and told the anal mom that she HATED her...I was like...no, you just don't like someone doing a better job than you! Those children (the messy mom) really did need structure and more support of a parent...not a friend! I thought I would lose it when the older boy told his dad the he didn't confer with him on the decision...WTF? The dad should be making the decisions!


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15. "RE: Wife Swap"
I loved the show last night! What an interesting example of extremes. One mom a total clean freak with lists and schedules out the wazoo.......the other a slob with almost too many animals to count! Too funny!

Gosh, I have three animals.....two dogs and a cat.....and I feel like my house is constantly having dirt dragged in the house by one of them (we have a dog door) but after last night's show I now feel my house is a lovely example of neatness and order (of course nothing on the same scale as "perfect" woman's house)

How sad for the kids who lived in the totally spot-free, noise free house. I would be so sad and lonely if I was them. Never allowed to make any noise, create any clutter or have any friends over.

ABC did an excellent job of showing two families on completely different wave lengths. They were both definitely at two ends of the spectrum, to say the least.

It made for an interesting show. Also, does anyone know if Trading Spouses was stolen from ABC's idea (Wife Swap) and if so, how does Fox get away with stealing ideas from other channels. (such as the Contender or what ever boxing show they ripped off from Mark Burnett)? Thanks!


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17. "RE: Wife Swap"
Yes, FOX has ripped off the boxing show and this show. Also, I know the boxing show was being held up because FOX was sued over copying the idea. Now, I have no idea how they get away with it but they have been stealing ideas and rushing to get their show on the airwaves first!


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31. "RE: Wife Swap"
I guess they're a bit like the lazy mom...creating new ides is sooo much work... mind you after we've seen the crap that comes out of FOX... I don't really blame them for trying to copy

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36. "RE: Wife Swap"
What an interesting example of extremes. One mom a total clean freak with lists and schedules out the wazoo.......the other a slob with almost too many animals to count!

Yes, very extreme examples! Could these 2 have been further apart in their homemaking/ parenting styles?

ABC did an excellent job of showing two families on completely different wave lengths. They were both definitely at two ends of the spectrum, to say the least.

Wonder if this will be the theme, two ends of the spectrum? How will they top it in the next episode? It will be interesting to see.

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18. "RE: Wife Swap"
>When lazy mom came out and
>told the anal mom that
>she HATED her...I was like...no,
>you just don't like someone
>doing a better job than
>you! Those children (the messy
>mom) really did need structure
>and more support of a
>parent...not a friend! I thought
>I would lose it when
>the older boy told his
>dad the he didn't confer
>with him on the decision...WTF?
>The dad should be making
>the decisions!


OMG Vols you hit it right on the head!!!! My Husband called it "Camp Run-A-Muck".


Older son needed to be put in his place. Kudos to dad for stepping us as he did and letting #1 son know he was wrong. Someonw I don't think it happens often!


What I am dying to know is how badly fireman dad was tormented by his co-workers when he went back to work! Can you imagine the ridicule! Not only the mess, but he came across as being a little whipped too!

I would also expect the same for anal dad. My guess with him is that he is the same way at work as he is at home. Perhaps the torment was not as bad for him because they knew what to expect.

Oh well...it all comes with being a DAW!

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19. "RE: Wife Swap"
I LOVED the show! I wasn't even planning to watch, I got sucked in after Extreme Makeover. DH even watched it with me! I was really happy to see anal dad loosen up and play guitar at the end, that was cool. I'm glad anal mom loosened up too - she needed to have some fun. Animal mom didn't seem to get much out of the experience besides getting her family back to her idea of "normal" as fast as possible.

And Extreme Makeover Home killed me too - I was sobbing during the entire episode.


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20. "RE: Wife Swap"
Luna...I agree the animal mom was just wanting to get her animals back. In fact, I think she cares more for those animals than her own children!

BTW..I was right there with you during Extreme Makeover!


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21. "RE: Wife Swap"
Extreme Makeover almost always makes me cry. (yep, I'm a big sap) In fact I wish more reality shows were about helping and/or extending kindness to others.....yet I must say I love the backstabbing, lying, and crazy side of reality tv shows as well. (Survivor and Big Brother come to mind).

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22. "RE: Wife Swap"
I'm a little confused. Isn't this the exact same thing as "Trading Spouses" minus the $50,000 twist? ABC says "Wife Swap" is an original series. I don't think so!
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23. "RE: Wife Swap"
Actually, it is an original series. FOX stole the idea and rushed to get the show on the air before Wife Swap...FOX is good for stealin ideas!


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24. "RE: Wife Swap"
Oh, I'm surprised there's no lawsuit taking place.
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I thought it was cruel for anal mom to take the majority of the pets out of their environment without asking permissive dad first. She also took out furniture without asking. She way overstepped her bounds. All that drama and no $50,000. They were polar opposites. The animal farm zoo house was about enough to send anal mom right over the edge.
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26. "RE: Wife Swap"
Speaking of the 50K from Trading Spouses, does anyone know what the compensation for appearing on Wife Swap is? I am sure the families must get money for enduring this type of torture for two weeks........anyone know how much they receive?

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27. "RE: Wife Swap"
OK I am a huge animal lover. But over 20 pets in your house? And they aren't even house trained? That is just nasty.

We just got a new puppy and I am dealing with house training until he is old enough to navigate the doggie doors like the older dog. But I clean it up the minute I catch him messing. And then I go crazy with disinfecting the area. I hate walking into a house that smells like animals. And it is extra work when your dogs have doggie doors. They do drag in mud and leaves, etc. But to just have a variety of animals doing their duty all over your house. Ewww!

Anal mom was too much to the extreme also. But at least she was willing to change a little. The filthy mom just got defensive. And we know when someone gets too defensive it is because they know they are guilty. I partly blame her hubby for letting the situation get so out of control.

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28. "RE: Wife Swap"
I can't imagine how filthy that animal mom's carpet was. Can you imagine? I bet she had not cleaned the carpet in years! She was too lazy to clean them! EEEEEWWW!

Yeah, I said the same about my pup. I trained her and I can't tell you the last time she had an accident! Like you...I cleaned it immediately. Think about just letting it lay there all day.

The stench would have to be in their clothes! URGH!


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29. "RE: Wife Swap"
I wasn't going to get suckered into another show, but alas, what is done is done...

I think it's interesting that so many people are saying that 'at least the clean/tidy/anal mom learned something,' but I don't think it's a very fair statement.

First, Bambi (the dirty mom) was certainly the misguided, lax, and criminally dirty mom, to be sure, but she certainly had other strengths as a mother. I credit HER with introducing positive change into Caprice's home (the clean, cold mother). She didn't fill their house with cute pets and dirt, she didn't force the family to engage in alien activities, and she didn't stop caring for the home or meeting the everyday needs of her host family.

The difference between the two mothers, I think, lies in the 'lessons' they passed onto the families they stayed with, and Bambi was far superior to Caprice in that manner. Bambi got the father doing something that he already loved, she got the children a cat that was older (and clearly was already trained for a litter box). She opted for plants and color as a way to infuse life into their home without resorting to filling it with all sorts of exotic animals. She found and implemented changes that would be positive, productive, and a generally good fit for her host family. The changes she made meshed so well with the personalities living in that house that they were able to relate to them, able to maintain them, and able to feel good about them.

Caprice, on the other hand, only offered the father a way to be a bit more of a disciplinarian, but really nothing more, and not really an effective way for him to be even a little bit of a disciplinarian. More effective, I think, would have been to have found solutions that really fit her host family, rather than the method she chose: turning them into clones of her family. She could have encouraged the children and husband to work on a home-made (or even a contracted-out) small kennel out back. She could have installed a doggy door, or hired a pet trainer to educate the family on how to teach their pets the right way to relieve themselves inside the home.

Caprice also might have considered that spending her week cleaning her hosts' home was not going to be effective. She should have been holding the boys accountable for household chores, teaching them, driving responsibility into their heads. As it is, she cleaned their home, but gave them no ability to maintain it in her absence. And taking things (and pets) out of a home isn't a solution for a family like Bambi's. Getting all the pets and things to work together in bliss (and cleanliness) is the real challenge and the real 'ideal.' She made no efforts to that end at all.

The dining table was a very important addition, though, as was at least showing the husband how clean the place could be. (Perhaps he will motivate his wife to maintain that standard, but somehow, I think the lesson was lost on them since they - the husband and children - were not a part of the initial clean-up.)

Anyway, I was generally impressed with Bambi's ability to adjust her style to meet the needs of her host family and Caprice's bending to allow for more 'life' in her life.

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I do have to say that I appreciate my childhood home and my upbringing so much more after watching this episode.

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30. "RE: Wife Swap"
It has been very interesting to be in the same part of CT as Bambi's family. There have been newspaper reports on the story as well as radio time. The same thing has been preached....This was all mistruths.

Bambi is saying that she only has 7 animals, but did she not brag to the other family that she has 25 or so? She is also saying that the "mess" that was on the wall behind the furniture was Old Chocolate pudding. Well..if it was old chocolate pudding why did she not clean it up? Another thing said on the radio was that the Wallabee ( kangaroo) was staged by the show, in the newspaper Cody (her son) said it was a friend's.

After the show was finished filming, Bambi had told people that this woman went out and bought all new furniture for the family while she was away. Now in the newspaper article she is saying that the dining room set was only rented and went back after the filming was over.

It looks like the family is trying to do damage control but they all need to get their story straight!

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32. "RE: Wife Swap"
"It looks like the family is trying to do damage control but they all need to get their story straight!"

And it looks like Bambi is as casual with her truths as she is with her housekeeping.

For what it's worth, I thought she said 25 "pets". When they showed her house, they also showed a hermit crab (I think), birds and some other small critters that would live in cages rather than roam free. This would not have the impact on a household that, say, 25 dogs and/or cats would.

I remember 3 dogs, two of them large? And 3 cats, and the Wallaby. Which is still a lot, and would really add to her cleaning chores. This I know.

The most pets my household has ever had at the same time, when my kids were small:
2 dogs, large ones
3 cats, indoor/outdoor types
2 cockatiels, caged
3 gerbils,caged
1 rabbit, caged-outside only
2 anoles (2=3" lizards), caged
2 turtles, caged
1 hermit crab, caged
This is 16 "animals" altho only 5 were housepets. The dogs were not allowed upstairs and were properly house-trained. The cats used a litter box, cleaned frequently, and also "went" outside a lot. Did my house smell? It smelled of dog, I'm pretty sure, and occasionally eau de litter box. But never feces or urine just laying around!

When you have pets you have to accept that it is your responsibility to keep the house clean, and that your work load is increased. Bambi screwed up. When you gotta clean, you gotta clean.


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33. "RE: Wife Swap"
WOW! Femme, I could not agree with you more! I take back all the things I have said above!

Femme, great job on getting your points across and you are so right!


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34. "RE: Wife Swap"
Aww, shucks...

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Here's your payoff... You want that in large or small bills?

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37. "Wife Swap Episode 2"
Remember it is on tonight!

They send a rich mother from the city to a remote location in upstate NY. The rich mother ends up having to chop wood for 6 hours a day!

So...yep...they are going for extremes!


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38. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
Sounds like fun! I'm watching. I wish I could live the life of someone with 3 nannies & have to try hard to spend 1 hour a day with my children!!
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39. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
Why does it have to be on after CSI: NY? I still haven't decided if Gary Sinese makes another CSI than the original worth watching!


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40. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
I don't watch any of the CSI's. Thank goodness, I don't need another show to follow!


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41. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
Ok...The rich mother is already on my nerves! I can't stand people like her!
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42. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
WOW! I liked this episode better than the first one! Both families learned lessons and the rich mom really had a great experience! I hope she doesn't take her life for granite any more!
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43. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
Maybe it was just me, but the two husbands really really irked me. It did seem like a good experience for everybody in the end, but that was kinda hard for me to watch.

Definitely an eye-opener, that's for sure.

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44. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
this was the first one of this show I've watched...
interesting idea and it's nice to see no "twist" like Trading Spouses" Drama for Drama's sake hehehe.
I thought it was really crappy of Steve not to follow the rules like Brad had to do. I'd like to see the producers be able to do something about a situation like that, but my bet is they tried to talk to Steve and he told em to pound salt anyway.

One week wouldn't have killed him and I agree with MJ, it was a hard episode to watch. I am glad to see what seems to be major changes in Kim and Brad tho, both learned a lot from the swap and seemed to be trying really hard to change for the better.

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45. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
Why do you guys think the show was hard to watch? Editing or the people?

Also, the rich woman did nothing she was suppose to do either! That frustrated me because that is the purpose of the show...she has to live the other person's life!


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46. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
I saw both episodes of wifeswap and I have to say, this is now one of my favorite reality shows!

Anyway, I signed on to this site just so I can vent about some characters on the show:

1. BLONDE ANIMAL LADY from Episode 1

Blonde Animal Lady from Episode 1 sucks! She angrily and irrationally told Neatfreak Mom that she hated her for doing exactly what she was supposed to do on the show- impose her "mom ways in the second week!" Animal lady clearly had more animals than she could take care of in the house (there was doodoo on the floor! yuck!) and Neatfreak Mom was well within her limits in leaving only 3 pets.

Blonde Animal Lady has a filthy home and makes the excuse that life isn't about cleaning but having fun- as if the two things are mutually exclusive. The fact is, she is just lazy. Lucky for her, her husband doesn't mind a disgustingly dirty house and a lazy wife. (I can only imagine how putrid the house must smell, and I feel sorry for any stayover guest at their home, especially Neatfreak Mom who must have been ultrasensitive given her tendencies!)

Although Blonde Animal Lady really irks me, I have to say that I really appreciated how she got Neatfreak dad to share his instrument-playing and effectively encouraged the Neat household to loosen up a little. Ultimately though, I don't think it was very nice of her to blow up at Neatfreak Mom the way she did in the end. (I think that reaction may have been the result of her defensiveness to Neatfreak Mom's appropriate criticism of the filth of the house, but that does not justify it.)

2. RICH MANHATTAN HUSBAND in Episode 2

This guy sucks even more than Blonde Animal Lady! Gosh what a PRICK this guy is! He is the typical, self-centered NY arsewhole who thinks that a person's value is defined by his bank account and background. I am disgusted at how he callously and constantly insulted Hardworker lady- clearly he believes that she is beneath him. I hope this guy realizes what a creep he is, now that he can see himself through another lens, but since he is an arsewhole of a PRICK, I bet he would just blame it all on editing. This guy SUCKS!

It scares me to think that guys like him bring kids into the world. Thank goodness for the nannies- they must be god's way of improving the situation- this way, the kids have a decent shot at becoming decent human beings.

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51. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
I can't disagree with anything you have said...however, more importantly:

WELCOME

Hope you stay with us!


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47. "Vols, next time start a new thread for each Ep"
It's just neater that way and comments are easier to find. I may have had too many animals at one time in my life, but I am still a neat & orderly person, lol!

That said, I have decided to watch this instead of CSI:NY which will be in reruns eventually if it's any good.

So NY dad really irked me. He made a deal with the producer's when he agreed to do the show, but I think he really just wanted changes for his wife. It never occured to him that he might have imperfections which could be noted by and improved by an interaction with a "lower class" person. And he was deliberately insulting however benignly he tried to characterize it.

And I give NY mom credit. She crashed & burned, she figured out work is hard, but she stayed emotionally involved and created an overall positive experience for herself. I like that she was consciously trying to improve the lot for NJ mom when she returned.

NJ mom, while treated badly, could not assert her influence in any way. She should not have dismissed all the staff because that idea would never fly in the NY situation. Better if she had looked for ways to insert the parents back into their kids lives with nanny support, rather than deligating virtually all parenting to the nannies. That would have been a useful contribution. Instead, like neat mom from last week, she just tried to recreate the family situation she was used to.



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52. "RE: Vols, next time start a new thread for each Ep"
I will start a new thread. I didn't know how much interest there would be!

Glad to see you skip CSI:NY!


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49. "RE: Wife Swap Episode 2"
I loved this show! I ended up liking everyone except the rich dad. He was a major JERK! It seems like everyone ended up learning a lot.
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48. "RE: Wife Swap"
I don't know why people like the Manhattan couple even have kids if they're just going to hire someone else to be the parents. Jodi doesn't work, so there is no excuse to not be there for her kids. She is just lazy and selfish. I don't think she needs "me time" ALL the time. Going out for dinner 6 nights a week without your kids is just pathetic. What a pompous @ss Steven is! That was awful when he called the NJ wife to say he was working late and wouldn't be home for dinner, and then we see him down at the gym making fun of her and saying it's not necessary for him to rush home. Yeah, how about your children who are waiting to have dinner with you?! Shmuck. I'm glad Steven and Jodi at least got a clue by the end of the episode and started spending time with their kids. I hope it lasts. I wonder if they rehired the nannies, or if they are finally playing their roles as parents.
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50. "RE: Wife Swap"
The nannies weren't fired. They said something about a "vacation" as they headed out the door. I bet Steven called them back to duty as soon as NJ mom closed the door when she walked out.

Jodi has learned that she needs to be more a part of their life but I doubt she is going to pick up after them. Steven - who knows?


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54. "RE: Wife Swap"
NY dad was the worst. He lied so he didn't have to spend time with his children. And why did they bother having children if they did not want to spend time with them? I thought everyone got something out of this swap except the NY dad. And I cringe even calling him a dad.
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57. "RE: Wife Swap"
He was such an arse!! Why did he even agree to be on the show?? He didn't even TRY to get involved in the 2nd week (or however long it was) and he blatantly mocked the whole thing while he was late coming home & at the gym... I hope they get better people in the future!


OTOH: I thought his wife was great, but I only saw the 2nd half of this episode. She was good for the other husband.

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55. "RE: Wife Swap"
I just wish that I had NYC mom's clothing "allowance" for about three months. I'd use it to pay off my student loans and buy a new outfit at that French boutique, Tar-jay...

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58. "RE: Wife Swap"
I'm with you HD!! If I could even have a tiny portion of their $$$, I could pay off all of my bills, student loan and more!
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59. "RE: Wife Swap"

While I completely agree that Fox steals alot of ideas. They were not the only ones that did. Wife Swap came from the UK where it has been there for awhile. So CBS and Fox did not come up with the concept.
Either way. I love them both!!
Carry on! ;)


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60. "RE: Wife Swap"
I am...and I can't believe these people...Is Amy for real?????
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61. "RE: Wife Swap"
was Amy the "blonde" hippy psycho? Holy crap... there was seriously something wrong with that woman.
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62. "RE: Wife Swap"
If she's not for real we need to find out who made her and put a stop to that! Har!

Among the NUMEROUS things that bothered me about this episode (the only one I have seen btw) is the flag controversey. SC mom was ragging on dred-dad about how he needs to show some support for the USA and blah blah blah he needs an American flag. While the flag outside her own house, while not a symbol for slavery as so many people seem to think, IS a symbol for the division of the United States. Where's HER American flag?

Blonde-Hippie-wife's comment as she drove up to the house also bothered me, though. While I wouldn't fly a confederate flag myself, because of it's connotations, I don't know when it became a symbol for mass murder, as she so dramatically put it. Statements like that are just plain emotional and ignorant.

Finally, Dred-Dad's comments that flying the US flag goes against everything he believes in, and his attitude while putting it up, illustrates a great deal of what is wrong with a certain sector of the American public. the flag does not represent the wars we fight, the political struggles, the many negative aspects of the nation. It represents our intent, as a nation, what our forefathers fought for, liberty and equality. Freedom. It represents the ideals that the nation is built on. A nation goes through ups and downs, to reject the flag itself is to reject the ideals.
Tacky, is it? Then why do you live here? If it is a dreadful country, why not leave it? NOBODY will stop you! people who rant against America because they want to make it better are one thing. People who reject the flag... simply dislike the country.

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63. "RE: Wife Swap"
It's just a flag. Land of the free (choices), remember?
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64. "RE: Wife Swap"
Only caught the end of the show last night and I'm glad that's all I saw. Blondie would have had me growling at the tv all night from what I saw LOL.
Dred dad...omg. I couldn't even look at him without thinking "take a shower already" OK maybe a bit judgemental on my part *mental being the key part of that word* but still...*shudder*
The rednecks? I know too many people like that to be unnerved by them. Dad reminded me of a guy we call Bubba. I didn't get to see much of Mom, as they weren't really dealing with her by the time I got home.

Watching this show for me is kinda like seeing a bad car wreck...it's not something I really WANT to see, but almost have to turn and look.

I shall lable myself a Wife-Swap-Rubber-Necker!

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65. "RE: Wife Swap"
The 'child' hippie was kind of funny, calling the new mom, the 'devil woman' hahahaha.

I felt bad for hippie dad, he was really hurt when he attempted to be nice by bringing flowers to new wife, and the only thing she could say was how dirty the vase was....I could see his point, but crying about it????

It is no wonder the hippie family live in isolation, who could stand to be around them for any length of time.

SC mom is a tad anal if you ask me. Making her kids say yes ma'am, no ma'am. Also, I believe there is more to it then his snoring that keeps her in another bedroom....she avoided kissing hubby twice on the show that I noticed.

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66. "RE: Wife Swap"
There is a thread already discussing last night's episode...please take conversation over there! It is so confusing to have two discussions going on about the same show!

Here is the link:

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID17/1040.shtml


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