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Jenoc99 102 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-17-06, 11:04 PM (EST) "march 17th Zandi/Frazier" Well, well, well!! I thought Mrs. Frazier was so right on about Mr. Zandi- what an insightful lady! Gosh you wouldn't guess that in a million years but the lady who grows nuts for a living is really good at "sniffing" out manipulating 'nuts' too! How gross was it that Mr. Zandi couldn't even think of any true downfalls about himself, and that they were all just round-about compliments for himself anyway! That guy rubbed me the wrong way, he was so controlling and manipulative, and the way he treated his younger son was terrible. I know that the shows are edited and twisted around, but twisted that much? I'm willing to bet that is an accurate representation. I thought it was gross how when the first episode ended, you heard Mrs. Zandi sigh, "oh, ray.." or whatever her husband's name is.. like he is God and she was going to be lost without him because he wasn't there to tell her what to do and how good to do it! He just thinks he is God's gift, doesn't he?! I'm curious to know what everyone thought of how Mrs. Frazier put the conditions on the Zandi's money- pretty tricky, eh? I think it was a fair thing to do- obviously they have plenty of money, they need to build character badly, and volunteer work is a good way to do it. Again, Mrs. Frazier is a wise and insightful woman to know that the key to building character is in volunteer work... not being yelled at and belitted by your father. Ugh just thinking about his manipulative smile makes my skin crawl!   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier allenjo 03-18-06 1    RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier Jenoc99 03-18-06 2  RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier rracheldb 03-19-06 3    RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier nazpink 03-19-06 4        RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier atzd 03-20-06 5            RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier stuffandnonsense 03-24-06 6

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allenjo 39 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-18-06, 02:52 AM (EST) 1. "RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier" Well... I figure it's very hard for Ray to change the way he is. People like him think they are always right and very confident about what they do and they hate when they are judged or told what to do. He will be the same person he's always been! What do you think about the toe ceremony??? Hmmmm.... The MO mom is a bit strange but that's OK. She's totally harmless! I didn't know that she worked as a paralegal in one of the top law firms in Vegas (source from the official TS site). It was nice for Traci to take Zeb to get a new pair of shoes and take him to the skateboard park. I like Zeb.- He's a good kid! And I also like Devin. NO comments on the money! Like Ray saying," We are NOT talking about the money!!!!"   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Jenoc99 102 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-06, 10:36 PM (EST) 2. "RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier" During the introductions, they said that the MO mom worked in Vegas, etc., and they showed pictures of her dressed in proffessional clothes and different poses, totaly different looking! I am always in awe of people who leave the material world behind and choose to live life simple and clean. Yeah the toe ceremony was.. kinda odd... and how about the bear slippers? i didn't quite get where that was going?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

rracheldb 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 03-19-06, 01:14 PM (EST) 3. "RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier" I thought Mrs. Frazier was much wiser and lead a much more fulfilled life with her family than the Zandi family. I also thought that Penny had a connection with Traci when the two moms met. Traci knew Penny was right on target but I don't hold much hope for her in staying strong and going up against arrogant Ray. He really dominates the Zandi home. Traci loves her boys, you see that. However, did you see how Rylin is falling in dad's footsteps? He's just as arrogant and sarcastic in his mannerisms. Poor Devin has a hard time measuring up to Dad's standards. Ray's life and subsequently the boys and Traci measure success on money and what they can show for it. The Frazier home was full of love and warmth that you could feel. You didn't feel that in the Zandi home. It was, "let me show you what I have". I felt sorry for Ray. He is self centered and I am going to say it again, sarcastic. He is masking or fearing something very big. Traci can love him all she wants but get a backbone girl. Penny, I am sorry Ray hurt your feelings. All he saw was the $50,000 at the end of the show. You were wonderful to add the volunteer work in before getting his hands on the money. Bravo Penny. You inspire me. Penny if you ever read this, you have the values and morals I strive to instill in my children and myself. Thank you. God Bless you and your family   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

nazpink 1058 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 03-19-06, 03:06 PM (EST) 4. "RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier" At first I thought that Mrs. Zandi would get nothing out of this experience, after all the first part of the show was her mopping around all lost without the instructions of her husband but then she changed. I was happy to see Mrs. Zandi actually get involved with the Frazier family and have actual interaction with them. She proved to herself that she has value and qualities that can help others and the Frazier family was very appreciative of the things she did for them which is the kind of reaction she needed. Mr. Zandi did come off as arrogant and very sarcastic. Yes, it can be difficult to have to face one's own faults and tell them to another person but who is this guy kidding?!!!! Confidence doesn't mean having no faults (no one is perfect) confidence is having the ability to accept and realize faults and work on while still realizing that you are a person of value. As for how the money went, I was pleased that Mrs. Zandi got it right for the Frazier family and I think Mrs. Frazier knew that the Zandi family wasn't desperate for the money so she decided to use it as a lesson. The Zandi family needs to do more things other than hockey and piano lessons as I am not convinced that the youngest was really into it. I also thought that the charity work was another way for the youngest boy to be involved in something that he enjoys (which he expressed an interest in nature) and for his abilities to shine so he is not always walking in his brother's shadow.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

atzd 83 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-20-06, 01:00 PM (EST) 5. "RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier" Sometimes I wonder how certain people can raise such good kids. Both Zandi kids behaved nicely, but especially Devin. He is such a thoughtfull kid, and was so nice to Mrs. Frazier. I have an eight year old who I've put my heart and soul into raising, yet he's much more of a wiseguy than either of the Zandi kids. As far as Mrs. Frazier, I understand the concept of living without too many material things, but to some extent you have to join the rest of society. You can limit the material things that your child has, but you can't make him/her feel completely different than other kids. It can be damaging to grow up and never fit in with your peers. Where I would definitely draw the line is when a kids shoes don't fit. I'd head over to McDonalds to flip a few burgers if that's what I had to do.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

stuffandnonsense 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 03-24-06, 09:12 PM (EST) 6. "RE: march 17th Zandi/Frazier" I think Penny came up with an ingenius solution. As she was on a Devin rescue mission, she chose the only solution that made sense. Force the family to spend time with Devin doing what HE likes to do. Unfortunately, the money carrot had to be employed to make this happen. Ray had a classic line in the finale that left me shaking my head; "I'm worried because Penny doesn't understand how important material things are". What a goob.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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