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Howard Dean 707 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 03-09-04, 04:27 PM (EST) "There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" After watching three episodes of the show, I noticed that it is much harder to use the "under the radar" strategy on this show, because of all the twists and turns. Brooke, for example, was pretty much out of the spotlight the first two episodes, but she was definitely front and center this week, and could have been voted off. What do all of you think of this? I'm torn. Like P-Ho, this show seems to have so many twists that it's hard to become attached to any of the players or root for them, because they could be gone tomorrow. That's frustrating for me. But making the UTR strategy harder to use is a good thing, in my opinion. A lot of you who are Survivor fans may remember Colby pointing out on last week's Survivor that UTR is not a very honorable way of playing the game. At least I don't like it personally, even if three of the last four Survivors have been won by players using the UTR strategy. I prefer the old days of Rich, Tina, Ethan and Brian, who won with a more straightforward strategy. So I guess I'm paying FE a bit of a compliment. It may actually grow on me. And as much as I hated P-Ho, that's really saying something.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... volsfan 03-09-04 1    RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... Estee 03-09-04 2        RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... volsfan 03-09-04 3    RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... Howard Dean 03-10-04 4        RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... volsfan 03-10-04 5            RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... speedyforme 03-10-04 6                RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... Howard Dean 03-11-04 7  RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... managerr 03-12-04 8  RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... mmm_link 03-12-04 9  RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... Big Al 03-16-04 10  RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... mmm_link 03-16-04 11    RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... Estee 03-17-04 12        RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... Howard Dean 03-18-04 13            RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... mmm_link 03-18-04 14  RE: There's No Hiding Under The Rad... Agman2 03-11-15 15

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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-09-04, 05:54 PM (EST) 1. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" HD, I agree with you that Eden has sort of taken the UTR harder to play and I like that. I agreed with Colby last week when he told Shii Ann what he did. However, due to the plot twist it is hard for me to follow and really get to know what is going on. It is difficult to see it as a game because you don't get to concentrate on a strategy at all! I have also found the FOX reality shows to be this way. Oh well, I guess I am into until my summary is written! Director of Public Relations for GAWKUR!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 57044 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-09-04, 06:15 PM (EST) 2. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" It is difficult to see it as a game because you don't get to >concentrate on a strategy at all! Agreed. If there is a strategy that can work in Eden, three episodes haven't been enough to expose it. As HD said, it's harder to hide -- but at the same time, you can't feel you're in control of the game when you're not entirely certain what the game is. Eliminations on, for example, Survivor, are mostly a matter of perceived threat potential, strength of numbers, and who you've offended recently. Eliminations on Forever Eden seem to go something like this: KASSIE: 'Look, a kitty!' (EVERYONE crowds around to look at the KITTY.) MICHAEL: 'Where did it come from? I haven't seen any cats before now.' MATT: 'Hey, it's rubbing against my hand!' BROOKE: 'Well, it can't be a female.' (RUTH appears.) RUTH: 'Good afternoon, houseguests. I mean, PHo's. I mean, residents of Eden. I see you've found our cat. Now, as you all know, cats represent contact with the outside world.' WALLACE: 'I did not know that.' RUTH: 'Shut up, American pretty boy! This is a colony and I am your queen! Your vaunted revolution means nothing here! Do you understand me, peon?' (WALLACE shuts up.) RUTH: 'As I was saying, cats represent your contact with the outside world. As this is strictly forbidden, the first three of you who touched the cat are up for banishment from Eden. When we gather at the temple tonight, we will have this cat with us as our special guest. Whoever it walks up to and rubs against first will have to leave forever.' (MATT immediately picks up the KITTY and throws it into the pool.) NAVEEN: 'What did you do that for?' MATT: 'Bad memories. Now it'll never come near me again.' If you can construct a strategy that works against automatic writing, congratulations. Otherwise, the twist composers are going to continue pulling out the first three things hit on the Big Dartboard Of 'You Never Saw It Coming', and eventually, sheer randomness is going to put your head on the block. Survivor is surfing. Forever Eden is treading water in the middle of the ocean. There will be calm, rough seas, nightmare waves, and perhaps calm again -- but eventually, you're going to drown.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-09-04, 07:41 PM (EST) 3. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" This is too funny Estee...as you were this, I was posting on another thresd how these peeps can't control the game and that the strategies can't be seen! Two great minds! But, your right on with your description! YOUR GOOD! Director of Public Relations for GAWKUR!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Howard Dean 707 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 03-10-04, 01:39 AM (EST) 4. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" I agree with both of you. I root for the players on Survivor who have a good strategy, and as both of you said, it's hard to figure out how that works on Eden. Looking back at P-Ho, it was clear that the producers went to great lengths to foil the strategies of both the Barbies and the Originals. And that aleady appears to be happening on Eden. As you said, it tends to happen on most Fox reality shows. I think Fox wants kids today to grow up believing that they are powerless minions that should do whatever corporate bosses tell them to do, instead of taking control of their own lives.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-10-04, 07:29 AM (EST) 5. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" Can we blame FOX for all our troubles? hehehe! Just kidding! I can get into a deep discussion about comparing FOX and MB or SEEBS in their quest for reality TV but I will try to not to that! I think MB has a thought process that understands the game he is trying to get the survivors to play. I do think his contestants are sort of puppets on a string to a point. However, FOX has no clue how their game is going to play out and they play by the seat of their pants. IMHO! Director of Public Relations for GAWKUR!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

speedyforme 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-10-04, 07:45 AM (EST) 6. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" i would try to play the MOST popular guy on the island and NEVER to be picked for anything... work with the girls so they NEVER pick me for anything (good or bad)... as for the guys...try to work something out so I never get picked for anything either from them (good or bad)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Howard Dean 707 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 03-11-04, 11:12 PM (EST) 7. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" Problem is, if you are the most popular on the island, you *DO* get picked. >i would try to play the >MOST popular guy on the >island and NEVER to be >picked for anything...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 03-12-04, 11:12 AM (EST) 8. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" If everyone starts staying under the radar and being boring, then the Producers will just change the rules and switch things up. There is no strategy in this game, everything is just going to be totally random. The kitty example was hilarious and perfect.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 03-12-04, 11:57 AM (EST) 9. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" I would secretly tell everyone I am a Kennedy and that I will remember who are my friends...even if it's everyone. Works great for both male and female.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Big Al 293 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-16-04, 01:47 PM (EST) 10. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" The people running the show are making up the rules as they go along. they can get anyone they want tossed anytime they want to.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 03-16-04, 01:56 PM (EST) 11. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" What about this? Give all of my Gold Coins away (except 1). That will take away the incentive for being voted off because I have the most coins, though it didn't seem to matter last night.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 57044 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-17-04, 08:00 AM (EST) 12. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" If the only motivation for voting someone off was jealousy of their riches, that could work. Once. The producers would create a rule against it the next day. As-is, I'd guess there are already rules in place against transfer of chocolate anywhere outside of the 'games' and the disbursement after banishment. However, it wouldn't surprise me to see more coins changing hands within the game under the random direction of the writers. One idea that just popped in: a poker game between Edenists, using half their earnings for chips. The two highest winners are up for banishment, with the departing person determined by the first two people to go broke. So -- do you try to play the game to win, knowing your extra earnings could put you out of the resort? If you have very few coins, do you shrug and play to lose in order to gain the dismissal power? (Ever seen poker played misere'?) Or do you try to win just enough to be in the middle of the pack, and stay out of the process entirely? That feels vaguely interesting. So of course, they're not going to do it.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Howard Dean 707 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 03-18-04, 04:41 AM (EST) 13. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" LOL ... Since there really are no viable strategies to win, it becomes more fun to fantasize about the ways the producers can screw the contestants. Show me the exit door!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 03-18-04, 09:13 AM (EST) 14. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" There is one strategy and that is to convince everyone to "not" vote you off. I mentioned the Kennedy strategy earlier on another post. An alternate strategy would be to convince some others that my step brother was a producer on another TV reality series and that is why I made it here...i.e. I have connections (indirectly). Naturally I would need to be a good actor to pull it off. A third strategy would be to convince others that max. face time on camera is more important than actually winning...and let their ego's take over and be their downfall.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Agman2 841 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 03-11-15, 12:57 PM (EST) 15. "RE: There's No Hiding Under The Radar on Forever Eden" I just hid under the bed and made it to the end.....actually it hasn't ended and I'm still there   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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