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"AVERAGE JOE"
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Does anyone know anything about average joe on NBC. Man the girl in the add is hot - I feel sorry that she has to date those guys. Although the guys in the add look pretty fun. About time a reality show with real people was on the air.
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6. "LETTER OF PROTEST TO NBC FOR "AVERAGE JOE"" |
LETTER OF COMPLAINTOctober 30, 2003 Dear Robert C Wright, President of NBC: I am writing to express my concern about the negative portrayal of Asians on your new TV reality show Average Joe in which physically unattractive men compete for the hand of a beautiful woman. Two of the twelve are of Asian heritage: Tareq and Dennis S. While no prime time reality show to date has featured Asian men at all, it seems particularly negligent on your network's part to feature Asian men finally--but to propagate the destructive stereotype of Asian men as being somehow sexually undesirable. According to the most recent Census, Asian Americans are the fastest growing ethnic minority group in the United States, yet there still isn't a single prominent Asian character on prime time. The ones that do show up from time-to-time are usually fresh-off-the-boat, brainiac nerd characters whose actions invoke pitiful laughter rather than empathy. Certainly, your network's ER has attempted to include Asians, but as female doctors, these characters are neither original nor groundbreaking. Your network must feel this is what remains most palatable to the American public, and this must be the explanation for why the only ethnic minority group you chose to portray as unattractive in Average Joe is Asian. I am deeply offended by the venue in which you have selected to show Asian males on TV. By broadcasting Average Joe you turn a blind eye to the multi-culturalism that is America today. Sincerely yours, Place your name here Send an the letter to Robert C Wright, NBC President, and
Average Joe Producers Stuart Kranow and Andrew Glassman to AverageJoe@nbc.com or fax letter to Robert C Wright at (212) 664-5830.
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10-30-03, 05:30 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: LETTER OF PROTEST TO NBC FOR "AVERAGE JOE"" |
<<While no prime time reality show to date has featured Asian men at all,>>Not that I am at all disagreeing with what youre saying or trying to argue with you, but I wanted to let you know that there has indeed been an Asian on a reality show. I don't remember his name, but there was an Asian contestant on the oh-so-wonderful Mr. Personality on Fox. Although this show was terrible, it does falsify your statement that there has never been an Asian on a reality show. Indeed, if you are talking all reality shows, there is also Billy, an Asian bachelor on The Bachelorette. I looked at his profile and he doesn't seem like such a bad guy. Again, I am not trying to say you are wrong in what you write, as you are probably right, but I just wanted to let you know that the statement I quoted above is actually not true.
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8. "RE: LETTER OF PROTEST TO NBC FOR "AVERAGE JOE"" |
LETTER OF COMPLAINT
October 30, 2003Dear Robert C Wright, President of NBC: I am writing to express my concern about the negative portrayal of White Men on your new TV reality show Average Joe in which physically unattractive men compete for the hand of a beautiful woman. Fourteen of the sixteen men appear to be of White heritage, with only Tareq and Dennis S looking to be of a non-white race. While no prime time reality show to date has featured White Men exclusively, it seems particularly negligent on your network's part to feature White Men prominently in this show, propagating the destructive stereotype of White Men as being somehow sexually undesirable and most likely to be nerdy, geeky and awkward. Your network must feel this is what remains most palatable to the American public, and this must be the explanation for why you chose to portray mostly WHITE MEN as unattractive in Average Joe. I am mildly offended by the venue in which you have selected to show White Males on TV. By broadcasting Average Joe you turn a blind eye to the ugly, geeky, nerdy side of multi-culturalism in America today.
Sincerely yours,
Place your name here Send an the letter to Robert C Wright, NBC President, and
Average Joe Producers Stuart Kranow and Andrew Glassman to AverageJoe@nbc.com
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10-31-03, 01:45 PM (EST)
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13. "Don't get me wrong...." |
I'm among the first to complain about how I think these shows potentially use people to line their pockets. I complained about it in Joe Schmo and in FLOM.On the other hand, these shows do have the potential to break-down stereotypes, and I'll betcha five bucks (I'm in between pay checks) that each one of these guys gets a following. I believe there is somebody for everybody, and the odds are in your favor of finding someone if you are geeky or nerdy. Let us not forget some of the greatest geeks of all time:
Bill Gates (white)
Steven Spielberg (jewish)
George Lucas (japanese)
Creators of Nintendo/Playstation etc. (plethora) Fact is, most of the television network executives would fit nicely on this show. Have you ever seen that top guy from NBC, what's his name Zucker? Anyway, he's quite nerdy, but very much in demand, very successful and among the best in the biz at what he does. I'm sure he's much more interesting to talk to than say a Chippendale's dancer, and the fastest way to a girl's booty is through her head. I do believe in Karma, and if these shows don't have good intentions right from the start, fate will come back in a BIG way to bite each and every one of them in their respective royal a$$ess, and I hope Spike TV is there to make a reality TV show out of it when it happens.
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10-30-03, 11:04 PM (EST)
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9. "Nerdy, Geeky, Ethnic and too, too White!" |
One thing I will say in defense of these shows is that the end result is it gets people talking and thinking about sterotypes and what it is exactly that people find unattractive about these people.By now, the general public knows that if they sign up for one of these shows, they are gonna get a major critique from just about everyone who sees it, and if they are not strong enough to endure, they need to think about that before they sign up. It's like a verbal make-over. If I was one of the geeks on this show, and then found this forum afterward, I could look at the discussions as a menu of possibilities.... possibilities on how to change for the better or even just to satisfy my curiosity as to "why do people think I'm a geek/nerd/whatever." It can be very interesting to hear what people have to say even if it is hurtful. You can take it with a grain of salt, as most of them will end up doing. You have to be pretty secure with yourself to even consider applying let alone perform on one of these shows, so I trust that they are strong enough to sift through the garbage and have fun with it. Remember, the vast majority of us in this world are geeks/nerds AND ethnic in one way, shape or form and otherwise size 9 impaired. We are usually the ones happily running to the bank while the cheerleaders and football heros get drunk in college.... then, when we are ALL older and wiser, the geeks/nerds get to hook up with people like Melana!
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10-31-03, 01:36 PM (EST)
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12. "High School...." |
I took a psychology class in High School, and one day the teacher asked everyone in the class to write down an anonymous note asking anything. My note read: Why do cheerleaders feel that they are better than everyone else? The teacher read it with exposed nerves, and rightly so.Oh man, you should have seen this one cheerleader go off on my note. She was oh so mortally wounded stating that it was merely the stigma of being in the popular crowd. Had she known who wrote it, no doubt she would have used everything in her power to further ostracize me from that sh!tty school. Thing is, she really wasn't pretty, she was quite average. Her claim to fame was her b!tchy demeanor and dykey take on life. No - don't miss it, not one little bit! Geek 101 pick-up lines: "Want some fries with that shake baby!"
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28. "RE: LETTER OF PROTEST TO NBC FOR "AVERAGE JOE"" |
Female babies in china are still regularly killed because male children are more desirable. Thousands of children go to bed hungry every night, there are a million children in the foster care system in the united states awaiting adoption, up to one third of our population does not have adequate medical care, ten percent of children that graduate from high school are illiterate, one in four black men will be incarcerated before they are twenty five years old, we are waging wars in other countries that are killing innocent children, 3,000 people died on september 11th because we can't find a way to coexist peacefully with each other.And you are worried about how asians are portrayed on a television show, on FOX? That is about as assinine as me being upset because shows like Joe millionaire make woman look like bimbo's. People like you who run around writing protests demanding equal treatment in areas that don't matter only contribute to the division in this society. When every child in the world has a roof over their head and food in the stomachs then maybe i'll worry about whether or not all races are getting equal coverage on insignificant stupid television shows. For now I'd rather spend my efforts on causes that matter. Before you lash back with a comment about how I am a racist, that is certainly not my intent. I abhor discrimination on all levels, but this kind of petty squabbling is not the way to solve the problem. Until we fix the problems in society that exist at the most basic levels we are never going to fix the grand problems like how to all get along. I learned in kindergarten life isn't fair, sometimes the kid in the chair next to me got to eat all the paste before I had my turn, but you learn to suck it up and move on and deal with the issues that matter. >LETTER OF COMPLAINT
>
>October 30, 2003
>
>Dear Robert C Wright, President of
>NBC:
>
>I am writing to express my
>concern about the negative portrayal
>of Asians on your new
>TV reality show Average Joe
>in which physically unattractive men
>compete for the hand of
>a beautiful woman. Two
>of the twelve are of
>Asian heritage: Tareq and Dennis
>S.
>
>While no prime time reality show
>to date has featured Asian
>men at all, it seems
>particularly negligent on your network's
>part to feature Asian men
>finally--but to propagate the destructive
>stereotype of Asian men as
>being somehow sexually undesirable.
>
>According to the most recent Census,
>Asian Americans are the fastest
>growing ethnic minority group in
>the United States, yet there
>still isn't a single prominent
>Asian character on prime time.
> The ones that do
>show up from time-to-time are
>usually fresh-off-the-boat, brainiac nerd characters
>whose actions invoke pitiful laughter
>rather than empathy.
>
>Certainly, your network's ER has attempted
>to include Asians, but as
>female doctors, these characters are
>neither original nor groundbreaking.
>Your network must feel this
>is what remains most palatable
>to the American public, and
>this must be the explanation
>for why the only ethnic
>minority group you chose to
>portray as unattractive in Average
>Joe is Asian.
>
>I am deeply offended by the
>venue in which you have
>selected to show Asian males
>on TV. By broadcasting
>Average Joe you turn a
>blind eye to the multi-culturalism
>that is America today.
>
>
>
>Sincerely yours,
>
>Place your name here
>
>Send an the letter to Robert
>C Wright, NBC President, and
>
>Average Joe Producers Stuart Kranow and
>Andrew Glassman to AverageJoe@nbc.com
>
>or fax letter to Robert C
>Wright at (212) 664-5830.
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01-20-04, 07:03 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: AVERAGE JOE" |
During the whole show I could feel myself making this gesture of disgust, even my face hurt at the end . But what hurt the most is seeing the producer's cruelty by putting these poor trolls against models. Larissa whatever her name is, after seeing her complete lack of personality will probably go for one of the jocks. I don't think there's enough therapy to scrape off the floor what's left of these poor souls' self-esteem when they get to go back home as those dumb jocks heckle them goodbye.
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10-29-03, 02:05 PM (EST)
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3. "No need to feel bad for her..." |
I don't feel too bad for her, at least not where it concerns one of the "Joe's." I have posted this on another thread, but I know one of the Joe's and he actually looks much more attractive in person than they show him. He is the one with the glasses-- John. I worked with him for a summer and not once did I see him wear the very unattractive glasses that he wears on the show. In reality, he actually is attractive. I know, I would date him. He really is very funny, intelligent, and really caring. So don't feel too bad for the ex-cheerleader (that's what she is, right?) cause the guys probably really are good guys, just like John. I have a feeling that the producers of this show did everything in their power to make every one of those guys look three times more dorky than they usually do.
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11-04-03, 02:43 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: No need to feel bad for her..." |
I know John too!! He's such a sweetie and give the most awesome hugs!!! And have you ever seen him play capoeira before? That guy has some awesome tricks up his sleeve! I just can't believe he's on "Average Joe." John is way more than average!! And if the public is thinking that these guys are "geeky", then why are kids dressing to be geeky? Look at all those emo kids! They're all dressed like people we beat up in school! So Rock on John!!! 
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11-04-03, 07:44 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: No need to feel bad for her..." |
Yeah I have seen him play that. The more I think about the time I worked with him, yeah, the more tricks I remember him being able to pull. He always knew the most random facts. It was like, how does one person know so much about so many different things? anyway, i thought he did pretty well last night. he shouldve gone and talked to the girl more. been more forward, but thats ok. at least i know he sings to her in german by the campfire and that makes me happy. sorry to give away that little part but its on the commercial.i didnt think all of those guys were geeks at all. a few were good looking. then again, there were those that acted like 2 year olds-- namely the egg cracking guy-- and my all time favorite was the broccoli boy. "Women are like snowflakes. Be careful with them or they will melt." Uhhh, what? "I'm not much into green vegetables." Wow, thats a conversation starter right there. I realize he was "scoping out" the other guys strategies, but when he got some alone time, whether he wanted it at the point or not, say something that shows that you have a PHD at 21. Don't talk about vegetables like my 4 year old nephew.
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11-04-03, 04:09 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: AVERAGE JOE" |
Something must be wrong with my eyes too. I thought some were cute but sense of humor and personality really makes a guy cute. How many of you ever met a really cute guy and then as soon as he opens his mouth his looks change??
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11-04-03, 07:49 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: AVERAGE JOE" |
Yeah, Im pretty sure she must have. If you notice at the end of the show, on the last screen, it says, "These scenes may have been editted." May have been? Oh really? I wouldn't have guessed.
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25. "RE: AVERAGE JOE" |
those guys did not look so bad...the odd thing what that she actually got rid for 3 of the better looking guys all by herself? and Wally the fourth guy seem like a good guy! Too bad. Yes she is hot...very hot...but so down to earth and ready to give it a shot...good for her!
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