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"Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract"
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"Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
Does anyone know if Jill is still on the Jenny Craig diet (was that the diet plan she was using on the show?) and if so is she endorsing it? I remember her talking about how she was going to cash in once she lost all the weight...so is she hearing the sounds of cha-$ching, cha-$ching yet, or did that gig fall by the wayside?
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GoddessOfWisdom 13 desperate attention whore postings
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08-04-06, 02:18 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
It's really sad that she supposedly was handed a golden opportunity thanks to S.O. and Jenny Craig and couldn't pull it off. I think that would have been her ticket to earning a few bucks or at least one would think.
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magnoliaz 11 desperate attention whore postings
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08-04-06, 02:42 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-06 AT 05:55 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 08-04-06 AT 02:48 PM (EST) Don't count it out yet as when Jenny wears out making those tasteless commercials with Kristi Alley maybe they will call Jill. Not saying this is correct but from a business perspective they could capitalize on it and go after the minority niche also. I agree that it could have been away for her to gain a temporary form of success. I think that the SO let her down in not seeing her weight issues as an addiction and only going after it as a diet. Then again we know what happen they saw her tumors as more important not because of the health issue but cause of gaining more viewers attention, etc. Then they switch to the story line of her father for the same reasons. I do not believe that she was ready to tackle her weight. In the words of Rosie.. one fatty to another she has to be ready and deal with not food issues but the issues that make food a problem. If you notice she was doing well for a while then when she had to dig deep and deal with her father, etc the diet went to the side. This is when not a nutritionist or Jenny could help but were a 12 step program such as Overeaters Anonymous or therapist who specialist in eating disorders would have been not only helpful to Jill at the time it would plant a seed for her to fall back on once she left the house. See it so typical when a issue comes up to loose the focus of a diet and use food to cover feelings, hurt and childhood pain. It has taken me a LONG time to realize this and even though I have realize my past patterns, breaking them are a daily struggle to keep it in check. I give Jill credit for everything she has done to increase her awarness and pulled up all past baggage and may I say do it in front of public audidence. I believe she at least attempts to work on her stuff and is healing her wounds. She will be able to see patterns and break them. The time of the show and even the time since the show is not long enough to correct years of neglect and unhealed wounds.
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petmama 494 desperate attention whore postings
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08-04-06, 05:46 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
I've always disagreed with Jill being put on the Jenny Craig program. Having to buy their food, rather than learn how to prepare ones own healthy meals and make sound, informed choices when dining out, isn't, IMO, the best way to promote, and maintain, weight loss. I feel the same way about NutriSystem, the Zone, any program that sells their own food. That Jenny Craig sponsored SO this past season is, IMO, no excuse. Maybe they supplied Jill's meals for the publicity. But, once she's out of the SOH, would they continue doing this? Especially after SO won't be returning for another season. Or, will Jill, who isn't loaded with money, now have to pay?
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08-05-06, 01:27 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
>I've always disagreed with Jill being
>put on the Jenny Craig
>program. Having to buy their
>food, rather than learn how
>to prepare ones own healthy
>meals and make sound, informed
>choices when dining out, isn't,
>IMO, the best way to
>promote, and maintain, weight loss. Jill also was never shown counting calories (part of the Jenny Craig plan) or counting points (the Weight Watchers plan) or doing anything other than simply the Eyeball and Guess plan. But, Jenny Craig specifically tends to start people on caloric intake that is FAR too low! I didn't see someone Jill's size having an easy time following a plan that insisted on starting with starvation mode. That's what Jenny Craig does to start. (When I asked a representative in a JC office once how she determined the beginning caloric intake for the plan. she responded with, "It is much too complicated for me to explain to you. The answer is in all these books (pointed to books on a shelf) and you just need to trust the process. I knew enough already to know 1) the calories were TOO LOW for someone my size and 2) I was smart enough to not pay someone to be insulted. I was there because I was overweight, and NOT because I was stupid! Jill isn't dumb, either. I am guessing that she might've had a similar conversation. Maybe there are peeps out there who had a smarter or more sensitive JC rep and this works for them. I didn't see this system working for Jill, not over the long haul.
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petmama 494 desperate attention whore postings
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08-05-06, 04:00 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
Starvation mode isn't the way for anyone, ten pounds to 200+ pounds overweight, to lose weight safely. All it does is promote an initially rapid weight loss that peters out as the body goes into starvation mode, actually a lowering of the metabolism, thus maintaining, rather than losing, weight. JC can brag that their clients lost at least 25 pounds the first month. But, what about the ensuing months, when starvation mode has set in and weight loss has come to a screeching halt.
Your JC rep sounds like she had a superiority complex. I saw a JC ad on a recent SO rerun. They claim to be so flexible. But Jill's program seemed awfully inflexible. Especially when she had to eat their boxed crap while her HM's were eating pizza. Then, being accused, by Iyanla, of resisting the process because she'd asked for a little more flexibility in her food choices. And, what's this? She can't do any cooking? There's no better way to be sure of what she's eating. I'll bet those JC "meals" are full of preservatives. And, high in sodium.
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08-06-06, 01:22 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
>Starvation mode isn't the way for
>anyone, ten pounds to 200+
>pounds overweight, to lose weight
>safely. All it does is
>promote an initially rapid weight
>loss that peters out as
>the body goes into starvation
>mode, actually a lowering of
>the metabolism, thus maintaining, rather
>than losing, weight. Very true! We are on the same page there. You just explained it better. I'll bet those JC
>"meals" are full of preservatives.
>And, high in sodium. They are. I also agree that it is ridiculous to expect Jill, or anyone else, to eat NOTHING but the Jenny Craig food. That's exploitation, if you ask me. NOBODY (in their right mind) is going to eat all Jenny, all the time. Maybe if they said, "Here, eat this for x # days, to get a sense of a sensible meal and what a "portion" looks like" or something, that would be meaningful to Jill and other women like her. But, that's not what they do. Their food is EXPENSIVE, too. JC claims that their food is no different than what it would cost to eat out. Then agian, if you are already a careful shopper and cook at home? It's more, not less. Eating out is expensive! The inflexibility would sink almost anyone. The people it didn't sink? That enjoyed having all their meals dictated to them by Jenny Craig? probably need help OTHER THAN "weight loss" counseling. Jill also needed someone with more sense in their head than Iyanla to guide them. Iyanla doesn't look like SHE's been deprived of many meals lately!
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08-07-06, 12:31 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
If I remember correctly, Jenny Craig was dropped as a sponsor midway through the 3rd season. I'm not sure what happened (Maybe they were losing customers when people saw that Jill was gaining weight instead of losing) but I seem to remember that Weight Watchers was all of a sudden showing commercials during the SO time slot. Then Curves jumped on the band wagon and all of three of those sponsors together couldn't make Jill or Jody lose an ounce.
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Toushay 50 desperate attention whore postings
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08-07-06, 03:16 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
I have found that good food costs more than cheap fat producing foods. Which might explain why poorer people may be more likely to be overweight. A possible better choice might be to try to go mostly vegetarian, but even those are getting mighty expensive. With higher gas prices and bad weather, all food is going to cost more.
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08-07-06, 04:20 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
When Jill spoke of being a Jenny spokesperson - I took it as another failed pipedream. Just as her prediction of making 75k a year for having very little job skills. Jill was never going to replace Kirsty Ally. On the one hand, the latter has a celebrity name and reputation and illustrates weight loss. Jill, on the other hand, demonstrates how to shovel as much Mexican food as your large mouth can hold.
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GoddessOfWisdom 13 desperate attention whore postings
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08-08-06, 11:49 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-08-06 AT 11:54 AM (EST)>I have found that good food
>costs more than cheap fat
>producing foods. Which might
>explain why poorer people may
>be more likely to be
>overweight. A possible better
>choice might be to try
>to go mostly vegetarian, but
>even those are getting mighty
>expensive. With higher
>gas prices and bad weather,
>all food is going to
>cost more.
First of all thanks everyone for responding!
Toushay, what if I might ask, in your opinion, are 'fat producing foods" and how are they less expensive than "good food" when a greasy whopper, coke and fries (bad food) can run almost $5.00 just for lunch. Are you saying that poor people can't afford vegetables and fruits and whole grains? Any nutritionist would label these "good foods" (celery and carrot sticks at my local market are under two dollars), whole grain pasta in the box (79 cents to $1.50 for a whole pound), brown rice (a dollar can feed a family of four), lettuce($1-$2 for a whole head), a dozen egg whites($1.50), ...etc..etc.. Unless of course your idea of good food is filet mignon and lobster tails which are more expensive than a triple cheese burger, but IMO are just as loaded with calories and are not considered "good food". IMO, some (not all) poor people aren't educated on nutrition, caloric content and intake and some don't know how to plan out meals or are not interested in cooking so therefore it's easier for them to pull into Burger King and order some greasy fries and a burger at five bucks a pop. And others are just plain not interested in the taste of vegetables and fruits and prefer or are addicted to the taste of fatty foods such as: cookies, cakes, chips etc..which by the way are NOT cheap. Have you priced an Entenmann's cake lately? Therefore I have to say I don't agree with your theory.
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NicNac 131 desperate attention whore postings
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08-08-06, 01:00 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
I would have to agree that in some cases, fat producing, unhealthy food is cheaper in the long run, especially if you are feeding a family. When you can get 10 boxes of Mac and Cheese for $2 rather than buy all of the fixins for a healty meal (meat, vegetables, etc) most limited income people would pick the mac and cheese for their kids. Or frozen pizzas that you can buy 5 for $10.
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08-08-06, 01:54 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
What great points being made here about good and bad foods and what they cost. I have to say that unhealthy food can be cheaper as Toushay wrote but it all depends on what you're buying. Mac and cheese might feed the kids for less than a pot-roast dinner would cost, but then I have to agree with Goddess that if a Mom knows anything about nutrition and is willing to take the time to cook a real dinner and not something out of a box then she can make a veggie omelette for the kids, baked potate and a salad and that won't break the bank. Does she want to do this night after night, probably not because it takes time, budgeting, creativity, to name of few things to pull off a healthy meal on a budget. A couple of teabags can make a big old pitcher of ice tea, but I think someone might prefer Coke or Pepsi instead. You can't get fat on Mac and Cheese alone, those Moms and kids are eating there share of other junk food to pack on the pounds. Just my opinion 
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petmama 494 desperate attention whore postings
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08-08-06, 07:39 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-08-06 AT 07:40 PM (EST)And, all kinds of junk, sodas, candy, cookies, even decorated cakes can be bought with food stamps. Winn Dixie even had a sign on their cake counter telling customers so. So many people buy stuff already prepared. Or, expensive cuts of meat.
Dr Phil, on one of his shows, exploded the fallacy that healthy food costs more. His guest had been feeding her daughter almost nothing but fast food. Claiming it was cheaper. And, she'd ballooned to at leasat 200 pounds.
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08-12-06, 10:05 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-12-06 AT 10:10 AM (EST)>LAST EDITED ON 08-08-06
>AT 07:40 PM (EST)
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>And, all kinds of junk, sodas,
>candy, cookies, even decorated cakes
>can be bought with food
>stamps. Winn Dixie even had
>a sign on their cake
>counter telling customers so. So
>many people buy stuff already
>prepared. Or, expensive cuts of
>meat.
>Dr Phil, on one of his
>shows, exploded the fallacy that
>healthy food costs more. His
>guest had been feeding her
>daughter almost nothing but fast
>food. Claiming it was cheaper.
>And, she'd ballooned to at
>leasat 200 pounds.
That's exactly true--it's a myth and a cop out that many poor (especially minorities) use as an excuse for being overweight.
There's a fast food burger joint a few blocks away from where I work and like clockwork at around 3PM, there are dozens of kids in there eating fries, shakes and burgers (an early dinner) and when they're done hanging out there they ride their bikes back to the "projects" where they live. Clearly these families have enough money to give these kids the cash for fattening, unhealthy junk food yet they are the first to cry poverty and whine that they can't afford healthy food and that's why they're fat. Ignorance and laziness is more like it.
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08-12-06, 01:16 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
I won't go through the whole story again (you can do a search and find posts from me and EMTBGRL and others on this very subject).But I guess when it comes to making broad generalizationss about people I always try to be careful. Having lived in the "projects" (very scary place) and on food stamps and welfare for a brief period of time (3 years) I know that the above statement is not true in a broad sense. One could remove the "poverty" factor and name any class of citizens and be right about any number of people in our society. But-- to bring it back on topic - all of the overweight ladies in the SO house were done a great disservice in the area of weight loss. They never told us whether they did tests on Jill to see if there was a medical factor to being overweight (and there can be a number of medical contributors). They were regularly provided with expensive, fattening foods (Omaha steaks and other goodies). We didn't see follow through on food logs, accountability partners, exercise, etc. Someone has stated that the picture of Jill looks like a glamour shot (and this is not intended to open that whole can of worms) and that the photo on her website is just her standing around with some friends. First - that photo is waaaay too small to determine true weight loss. She still looks very large next to the men she is standing with. She is dressed very nicely and the dress she is wearing is flattering - but we also saw some of those same things during her stay at SO. There are numerous threads about Jill's appearance and how "Jill's outfit made her look really good today," or "Wow! did Jill look phattt in that outfit, or WHAT!" Bottom line - I have it from a very reliable source that Jill has lost 60 lbs. and is still on the Jenny Craig diet. Being a rather large woman myself, I know that 60 lbs. is an accomplishment but it is also a drop in the bucket. She has a very long way to go. She had to have been well over 350 lbs. to start with. So at 60 lbs. weight loss, she still weighs near 300 lbs. I'm thinking that Jill is about 5 ft. 9 or 10 inches. A large framed woman at that height should weigh somewhere between 152-173. That leaves Jill with about another 120-130 lbs. to go. My concern with something like Jenny Craig is that at the end Jill will have had no practical training and practice at preparing and eating healthy foods for herself. WeightWatchers would have been a much better and healthier option for her. But they weren't sponsors at the time Jill started so - go figure. 
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08-12-06, 07:55 PM (EST)
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29. "WARNING: Cuntessa" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-12-06 AT 08:26 PM (EST)Please don't look to pick fights with other posters. No one singled you out, but, since you ask, you are making broad, steriotypical, statements, and you're not discussing the show. Stop the former, and concentrate on the latter, please.  
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08-14-06, 09:51 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: WARNING: Cuntessa" |
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Mysticwolf.
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08-12-06, 09:23 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
>I won't go through the whole
>story again (you can do
>a search and find posts
>from me and EMTBGRL and
>others on this very subject). Thanks Sharnina, I wasn't touching this one---again. Jill's problem was low impulse control and inability to make a serious committment to weight loss, and all that goes with it. That has nothing to do with education, poverty or nutrition education. Jill simply did not have it in her to make better choices about what she put in her mouth. Bluntly? She doesn't CARE enough! The SOH gives the women grocery shopping money, so poverty is not an issue for Jill the *choices* are. Nobody was going to let Jill starve on National TV. And, since we can see what she did and did not eat? There are times she succeeds (not participating in the chocolate fountain dessert exercise) and times where she fails (most other times we see her eating.) Not caring about her health is demonstrated repeatedly in ways other than her eating. For example, Yes, she is carting around a tumor, and still smoking, too. Often. We see her out on the porch smoking a cigarette a lot. If I was given the "Cancer" verdict? Out would go the ciggies. So would the processed foods. I'd be on an uberwoman exercise plan like you wouldn't believe, either. Jill sits around, smokes and stuffs her face. This has nothing to do with the trials and tribulations of other people. This has to do--strictly--with Jill. The only reason I agreed with Jenny Craig for Jill? (and I have no love for the JC plan) It did force Jill to follow their lead, and not leave wiggle room for, "I wonder if I can eat this." The answer was, clearly, "No." If I were Jenny Craig, I would have dropped Jill as a client for my product. She clearly didn't follow the Jenny Craig plan to the letter. Any success she had couldn't have been attributed to them, either. Not a good choice for a "success story" for a sponsor. Maybe JC dropped Jill for that reason. Seems logical to me.
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18. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
Was it that picture of her leaning on a rock??? BIG rock?? Cause how could you tell whether she's lost weight or not by hiding behind a great big old boulder of a rock?
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08-08-06, 09:04 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
That looked like just a glamour head shot. She put a full figure photo from a wedding this summer on her website on the Good Friends page. She looks like an average big woman with her friends.
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08-12-06, 05:28 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
Jill is out of shape. She ate like a cow however - always chewing with her mouth open. She was an eater - and I imagine the cupcakes added all those pounds - the smoking didn't help.Allison actually looked OK body-wise her graduation day - not in the Soothsayer ensemble but her black pants and (must reveal my scar) lace top. Her double chin simply made her look awful. She didn't have a neck. Jodi - wore the wrong clothes. Too tight which made her look frumpy. Christy looked like she could only afford her gastric bypass on her top half and now lower. That teenager hairstyle made her look like a billboard for trailer trash (that she is). If they show the Jill part two - where she returns in season 3 you will see how huge she became. If she fixed her teeth and continued with a diet and exercise plan she might be presentable.
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31. "RE: Jill and her Jenny Craig Contract" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-13-06 AT 10:12 PM (EST)I think the Jenny Craig contract fell by the wayside. Now maybe contractually they agreed to supply her with the meals but I don't think Jill is reporting to them. Remember this is Jill we're talking about and if she and Jenny Craig were still together it would have been all over her site. I was the one who heard her very distinctive voice on the radio giving a testimony on how good Medisystem (some weight loss product) was/is. The announcer is describing Medisytem and Jill comes in later toward the end to endorse it. She gives a ficticious name but I know that voice. So if she was still on JC I wouldn't think they would allow her to endorse another weight loss program. This ad was on a AM station here in NY. If she lost weight then maybe it's due to Medisystem and if the endorsement is true she states she lost a total of 30 pounds. When I first saw the pic of her behind the boulder I thought she lost weight but after really looking at it her face looks about the size it was as when she entered the SO house. The pic on her website with the 2 friends albeit hard to tell but she also looks to be about the size she was when she first entered. Jill could be Star Jones' long lost twin in that they have an ego out of this world and everyone would see if Jill lost a substantial amount of weight to want to make people be in awe of her by putting the new and improved Jill pics all over her site. My 2 cents on eating properly while on a low budget. Since I'm on SSDI I had to learn to shop inexpensively. I used to buy a lot of junk because I was used to seeing my mother buy those things when I was growing up. Yes she cooked healthy meals with 1 starch, a green vegetable and meat but we also had our sweets. My mother had a thyroid condition and now so do I, only my mother had hyper and I have hypothyroidism (life is so unfair lol) so she could afford extra calories. I wasn't diagnosed until much later after being told mine was normal when it really wasn't. I'm just saying all this because I gained weight and couldn't lose no matter how hard I tried, maybe a few pounds but that's it. It wasn't until I got really strict and stop buying the processed foods. I also have a degenerative disc and can't stand for long so cooking isn't tops on my list to do. Anything easy I would fix things like Hamburger Helper was a friend to me. But I learned through my mother, who takes her health very seriously, that it doesn't take a whole lot of money or time to eat properly. I buy fresh vegetables (although they recommend organic I can't afford to buy it), never buy can vegetables (bacteria -- according to expert on NBC). I steam my vegetables which doesn't take long. I bake my meats which takes next to no time to season and put in oven vs. standing over a hot stove frying something. If you take into account how much things like potato chips ($1-2 a bag), ice cream ($5-6 for a gallon), cakes cost ($5.49 for Entenman's) you can very easily buy fruits and vegetables which are more filling and doesn't drop your energy level from a zillion to 0 in less than an hour. I still have my sweet tooth but now I go for frozen grapes and make a banana, strawberry, or any type of fruit frozen smoothie. I'm not perfect and I still occasionally have my chocolate but after having it I see how sweet those things are and won't desire it much anymore and how it drops my sugar level so suddenly. Just saying all this that maybe it can be of help to someone else who struggles or may go for the instant gratification with food. And being that Jill is a big woman and lugging all that weight around I think she looks for the instant gratification. *Sorry for the long post. I didn't mean to go off on a tangent. (Edit to apologize.)
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