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"Vanessa's Diary on Ebay"
BrenMo 22 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-06, 08:25 AM (EST)
 
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"Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
Vanessa Atler items are being hawked on Ebay by a mikebaseball. Would that have been her Michael? Has several things listed including her Starting Over diary. Don't know if they are for real or not.
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BrenMo 22 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-06, 08:30 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
lol every item you look at that he has already sold, has the same Vanessa gymnist pic on it, whether it is her item or a green cat picture or whatever. lol
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Incognito 0 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-06, 09:09 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
This will be a fun one to watch. ThankX for the heads up. The seller, mikebaseball, is her brother. The last time I checked her myspace, she was still with the loser boyfriend. She hasn't done much of anything since "graduating" from the Starting Over asylum. Well, unless you consider being diagnosed with fibromyalgia, having the family mortgage their home to send her to some clinic in Hawaii for "treatment" and being cured...
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sunshinedrop 31 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-06, 11:10 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
She's sick!!!!! She may have bills to pay! Plus, I have bought stuff on ebay for people I know who didn't have an account. Maybe her brother is helping her out-I don't see anything wrong with that.
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BrenMo 22 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-06, 02:55 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
Oh TRUST me, if she has FM, she can most likely not stand to work a 9-5 job. Because she is NOT like everyone else. I was diagnosed with it in 1978 when a lot of doctors even, hadn't heard of it. It hurts, and that's just putting it mildly. You don't even have the time, and this isn't the place, to hear all about it. You can be fine one minute and the next crash and burn and someone has to help you get to a bed, where I usually am for 3 days. This happens to me about once a week or so now. And my hubby was just diagnosed with it a couple of months ago, and he hasn't come to grips with it yet.So Vanessa's days of being on a balance beam are over with, and most likely there won't be any 9-5 jobs either unless she has a very very lenient boss. You other girls with FM, do you all visit a message board somewhere? Thanks,
Bren
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06-02-06, 03:55 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
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>You other girls with FM, do
>you all visit a message
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>Thanks,
>Bren
I was a gymnast as a kid. I fell bad hearing about Vanessa having Fibro and being so young.
You are right Bren, one day I am great but a great day could mean 3 bad days. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Fibro is but one small portion of whats been happening to me the past 3 years. I am 44. I was a very active person and then one day, BAM, in bed. Haven't been the same since. Last year I was accepted for SS. Not really want I invision for Vanessa. Hopefully, this treatment center will help her deal with the pain and mental aspect of it. I use to frequent a Fibro board on AOL but I guess at this point I found it more depressing than informative. More complaining than being in the solution kinda thing. I would love to find an online community about this that is informative. ok sorry so off topic (won't happen again). If you want Bren you can send me an Private Message and we can chat that way.
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DedeV 155 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-06, 05:32 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
I completely agree. I have had FM for 12 years and I have to take narcotic pain killers and soma (strong muscle relaxer) to work and I have a fairly easy job physically, but tough mentally. I'm a junior high teacher!
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06-02-06, 04:13 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
I think a book would be a good idea. Maybe one for teen girls. She'd make more money doing this than just selling her diary on EBAY.
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DedeV 155 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-06, 05:34 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
I agree, but I am amazed that there are 8 days left and it is already over $300!
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06-02-06, 06:29 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
"Mikebaseball" has changed his eBay user ID to "vanessaatler". Wow, they're making a killing off her stuff!
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings
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06-02-06, 07:19 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
I remember reading on her website (not a myspace one but one she has since dismantled) that she thought she had fibro after she left the SOH but it was later determined that it was an injury from an accident of some sort and not fibro at all. I have fibro and was watching her diary entries on her old site with great interest since she was talking about fibro and then found she didn't have it. She was trying to get people to send her monet for treatment on her old site as well. I can't believe that she and her the person selling things for her is so hard up that she has sold some of her medals on eBay as well in past auctions. It is sad. BTW she is selling a step down from her underwear she is selling a used leotard.
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26mitogo 493 desperate attention whore postings
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06-03-06, 00:30 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
Vanessa Atler still has a HUGE fan following in the gymnastics world. She will probably get many more bids from her gymnastics fans on anything she sells than she would from the few that followed her after her days on SO. She is, IMO, the most talented gymnast this country has ever seen. As I said on another thread, the only reason Vanessa didn't become an Olympic champion (and a houshold name) was because of what the ADULTs (coaches, media, etc.) did to her. It was painful seeing her struggle her last couple of years. She was like watching magic in motion - like no one I have ever seen before or since. As is common, the adults who have these childrens minds in their hands care only about what they can get from the kids. But I could write volumes on the subject. What Vanessa went thru & what Niambi was dealing with is the same as soooo many who were very athletic highly talented kids.Last I heard (early this year) someone had asked Vanessa to write a book about what she went through. I hope she is still planning to do it. It NEEDS to be written. If it is her brother selling stuff for her (I haven't gone to eBay to look at her items) he may now be helping her since she helped fund his college. I know her family was trying to help her since she never got the chance to begin working regularly & full time before she became ill. She had only been home from SO a short time before the accident. And the reason she went riding (wasn't it dirt bikes or something?) was because she finally began taking chances after SO. JustBNMe ~ when did Vanessa announce that she did not have Fibro? Last I heard anything was mid-Jan'06. Was it after that? As of Jan. she was still very ill and in pain. If not fibro (which is VERY commonly mis-diagnosed ... many with it get dx of something else, and many with something else get a dx of fibro) what did she say she had? By the way, selling her old leotards is VERY common in the gymnastics world. In fact, most gymnasts sell theirs as they outgrow them so they can buy more. The girls who do the higher levels spend 30-50 hrs/week in a gym so their leos are their "fashion" clothes. Also, when they win competitions, achieve certain levels, etc. they get free leos from meet sponsors, state & national orgs, etc. Vanessa would have gotten more than she could possibly have used. She also modeled for a gymnastics leotard catalog and would have been given MANY leotards from them and I'm sure dozens of other places. Someone who achieved what she did in the sport would have gotten hundreds! My daughter competed many years and never competed internationally, as did Vanessa -- she has leotards she's never worn. Many were given to her for specific competitions, worn once for only a short time ... with briefs & sport bra under. MUCH less wear than most used items on eBay or anywhere, for that matter. These girls usually have more leotards than everything else in their closets added together. I would love to hear that Vanessa is doing OK. She was soooo young to start struggling with FM. My illness is in the same family (but isn't specifically FM) and, like many of you upthread, I went from running marathons one day to being bed-ridden the next. It's been 7 yrs for me ... and MANY docs, clinics, tests, including Emory & Mayo (like other posters). I cried for Vanessa when I found out she was ill. I knew the struggle she had ahead of her. I pray she is OK now. 
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SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings
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06-03-06, 02:13 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
Thanks 26. Before hearing it from you, I hadn't comprehended the scope of Vanessa's success. She wasn't a bragger, but I do remember her saying that she came close to being an Olympian in 2000. From what you say, she got about as close as she possibly could. What a crushing disappointment the whole episode must have been for her. In any endeavor, there are always unsavory characters just waiting for the next "big thing" to appear so that they can latch on to that person and ride them into the limelight. So sad. I wish that SO would have played a video of Vanessa performing a routine on the day she gave her story. That might have told us a lot more about her -- same thing with Niambi. I recall it being said that she held several national athletic titles, but the LC's were much more interested in Situation Man or how Niambi was upsetting Christie. Anyway, compare Vanessa and Niambi to their SO counterparts; those HG's who are still engaging in relentless, self-promotion, as though their pre-SO mediocrity and one season on a "help me" reality show makes them celebs. Maybe one day Vanessa will put her story on paper. I'd buy it. I guess they'll be no SO chapter though...I think she's selling all her notes, lol. Let's hope her health improves.
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings
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06-03-06, 09:37 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
26mitogo I don't know exactly when she announced she didn't have the fibro I am not a huge fan of hers so it wasn't something I felt the need to remember in great detail. She put it in her diary log on her old website vanessascorner.com. (Which has since been taken down) It was determined that it was not fibro that was causing her issues but rather an injury from a dirt bike accident that was causing problems. I know I was somewhat surprised that she had asked for donations so she could go to Hawaii to get state of the art treatment for the fibro and other expenses and was using her stint on SO to get sympathy and money from viewers. It changed my opinion of her and then when she said it wasn't the fibro I was not surprised because her symptoms overall were not in line with fibro. It was talked about on another MB I was involved on last year and they talked about it being a scam ot get money and to get people to bid on her eBay items. Back to the topic at hand I personally would not to buy someone's used leotard. It's like wearing someone else's bathing suit, underwear or pantyhose. ICK! I can't feature the diary being that interesting to pay over $300 for. If it was truly about her as a person she wouldn't have listed SO in the title of her auction she would have simply used her name. They are hoping that the demise of SO will make it appear more appealing and like a collector's item of the show itself. LOL. What's next for these HG? Selling a wad of gum chewed while on camera or maybe a used tissue shown when they were crying on the show?
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SOfan0221 828 desperate attention whore postings
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06-03-06, 06:53 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
Vanessa had started selling items on ebay shortly after her stay on SO. Not sure if the timeline would have been when she diagnosed with Fibro. IMHO Vanessa is one of the very few SO guests who really needed the financial support her ebay items gives her. I read her blog on her website when she was discussing going through the fibro diagnosis as she had no insurance. It all came about shortly after she left so. Vanessa has had more than her share of heartache, with or without the loser boyfriend. I wish her only the best. I don't look at her auctions as capitalizing on so when I view the others such as Christie, Jodi, Christina, and Miss Jill and her doggie capes. Gawd!!!
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06-04-06, 07:16 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-04-06 AT 07:39 AM (EST)I liked Vanessa very much-- I thought she was very sweet and genuine. As soon as I saw her first come to SO, I was like, Is that Vanessa Atler?!?! And I am not even a gymnastics fanatic, I just remember her being HUGE in the sport, Reese's Peanut Butter cup commercials, etc., and the downfall was so extraordinary. I watched the Olympic Tryouts and when they announced the team members, I recall the commentators in shock saying, "Who would have ever thought Vanessa Atler would not have been a member of this team?" Not that this has anything to do with her having fibro or not. I just don't think it's a big deal that she's hawking items on Ebay-- the way any other athlete often does. Selling Superbowl rings and what not. I don't think it has anything to do with SO "fame." Her pain must have been tremendous-- fibro or not-- to have sidelined her for so long. From what I understand, she performed on injured limbs with regularity when she was in the sport-- and she said this was the worst pain she ever had. When Vanessa's Corner was up and running, she had-- pretty recently, I think-- posted pictures of herself coaching young gymnasts. So she has been working on accomplishing her goal. And she looked like she lost all the weight. Best of luck to her.
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BrenMo 22 desperate attention whore postings
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06-04-06, 09:14 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
Thanks, I didn't know how this worked either. The SO board emailed it to me, and I answered just now. Thanks.
I am one that sure didn't know how high up in the sports world Vanessa was either. How interesting. And I never thought about all the free leotards that might be given, as one of you explained. My mind was just thinking used leotards. I imagine especially with someone high up she was given a lot of sports type things from companies hoping she would be a sponsor for them.
I hope she is feeling better and can do something that makes her happy. She was a sweet girl, she does need to ditch her boyfriend though. So many women would be so much better off single than with jerk men in their lives (I have 2 daughters in that catagory) I don't know why they think they can't make it on their own. Off topic: I read Niambi's latest post, I am so glad she has gotten rid of situation man. What a loser. She sounds like she is doing great now! I'm so happy for her! Boy I sure hope they don't cancel SO permanently. I have so enjoyed that show. I didn't know about it first season and only found it in the middle of the night when I was up a few nights with FM pain. I watched a while and kept thinking what IS this, is it for real? Are they just acting? I got hooked and have watched every day since then. I think they should advertise the show, they'd get a lot more viewers. I have never once since a commercial for it, why not? Bren 
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26mitogo 493 desperate attention whore postings
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06-04-06, 04:56 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay" |
For those who didn't realize how exceptional Vanessa was in gymnastics, (which, by the way, has been reported by sports research institutes as one of the most difficult sports there is since you have to be extremely strong, perfectly balanced, move like a ballerina, precise within a mini-fraction of an inch ... all while looking as if you are putting no effort into it) Vanessa's scores actually DID qualify her for the 6 member 2000 Olympic team. She had an uncharacteristic fall on vault & other unusual wobbles the last day of trials but her scores were still high enough to qualify for the team ... and most believed she would have shaken off her doubts once she was actually on the team. Olympic trials has been reported by all past candidates as 1000 time more stressful than the actual Olympics ... it's a L-O-N-G drawn out process that actually lasts MONTHS where every move at every workout & competition EVERY DAY is watched, calculated, judged, & evaluated. In 2000 gymnastics adopted a new Olympic selection process ... which was scrapped after the fiasco that year. Vanessa had the scores that would have put her on the Olympic team but the agreement was that the committee had final say regardless of scores. They gave themselves an hr or 2 after the last of US Nationals, Olympic Trial Semi-finals, then Finals to decided. Bela Karolyi was made head of the committee shortly before trials. Vanessa was the choice by many on the committee in spite of her stumbles. They were within MINUTES of their deadline without a final decision about Vanessa, as many still wanted her on the team since she had always been one of the US's best gymnasts ever. She had been FAR better than any of the others over the previous several years. She'd been plastered over every known worldwide publication in the sport for 3 - 4 yrs & was admired by the best in the sport throughout the world. But that was part of her difficulty. Too much was expected and everyone in the sport put the future success of the US on her shoulders for 4 solid years ... beginning when she won Jr.Ntls at age 14 just before the '96 Olympics! With only a couple minutes left for the team selection Karolyi had final say. Vanessa was out. Ironically, in recent interviews Bela Karolyi says Vanessa, along with Mary Lou Retton and Carly Patterson, are the best US gymnasts he has ever seen!! The sports world and gymnastics in particular puts so much pressure on these CHILDREN. Vanessa had to be perfect for far too many years. Mary Lou Retton wasn't very well known before her Olympic performance and Carly Patterson was among the largest mix ever of stars in the sport before her outstanding performance. In fact, Carly placed 3rd at the end of her Olympic trials. Vanessa was a stand-out hopeful in this country after the team surprised the world with their gold in Atlanta in '96. The others were good but not spectacular like Vanessa. That much pressure for 4 years ... I don't know many adults who could handle that. OK, I admit, I have far too much info & far too much interest in the sport. But we ate, slept, and breathed it in this house for over 10 years. Sorry. I just don't think many outside the sport realize what an amazing athlete Vanessa is. And she is also very shy and unassuming. She is usually embarrased when recognized and feels she let down a lot of people when she faltered. She has never felt like a star and struggled with being well-known. She usually has to be talked into appearing, speaking, interviews, etc. I am planning to send her a message soon and if I hear back from her I will post an update if anyone is interested. I did check on some of the medals & awards Vanessa has placed for sale. The medals I saw are the ones from the US governing federation used in most sanctioned meets of any size. I saw a trophy from a meet I'd never heard of ... not one from her biggest wins. And yes, Vanessa would have gotten boat-loads of "stuff" during her 4 most successful years ... especially from companies speculating on her future success in the Olympics. She would have gotten another "boat-laod of stuff" from competitions, US gymnastics federation, etc. She also toured with the Olympic champions right after the Olympics. I'd be surprised if she DIDN'T want to rid herself of much of it. And since she still has many who admire her abilities and accomplishments, there would be a lot of interest in her autograph alone. One family I saw who bid on her diary has bought many of her things in the past. They have also bought a lot of other gymnastics stuff from eBay. My guess: a family with a young girl coming up through the ranks. Just a guess
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06-05-06, 01:25 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Vanessa's Diary on Ebay(here are some videos)" |
Thank you talker67 for posting that link. I just spent 40 minutes watching and rewatching an absolute powerhouse! I feel inspired to get in shape! You're right 67, the Rock 'n Roll floor routine was incredible. Not only was Vanessa incredibly skilled, but she looked like she was having a blast. One of the commentators made an interesting observation: Vanessa does not have the typical waif-like (my word, can't remember her word) body that gymnasts usually have -- she's got shorter muscle length and a chunkier build, but she is just as agile. There is no doubt there were plenty of people betting on this girl's talent and skill. 26, your explanation of the 2000 judgment is incredibly tragic. How can something like that ever be righted - it was a moment in time, it's gone. How absolutely awful for Vanessa. There is a book in that girl, and I hope she writes it, I really do. I would love to know what was going on behind that steely exterior.If you guys were impressed with Vanessa's dancing audition on SO, prepare yourselves for something far more impressive. This young lady belongs behind an ABC Sports microphone commentating at the competitions of the up and coming gymnasts. To the other SO HG celeb wannabees: Vanessa was one of your number who has magnetism and talent. As she performed, I could not take my eyes off of her. The rest of you, take a look at it. You need to know what the REAL deal looks like. Then, please, all of you -- take your junk and your double-talk and just go away and stop pretending.
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