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"Jill's comments about those of us on the Board"
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05-08-06, 07:30 PM (EST)
 
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"Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
I hope this is an okay place to post this. If not, I'm sure the powers that be will let me know! I recently visited Jill's website to find that she has a blog about us "posters". Interesting reading....Jill says: "Which of course brings me to all the MISERABLE people on the message boards. Ok, yes the FIRST thing all of the coaches told us was to STAY OFF THE MESSAGE BOARDS, and what's the first thing we all (well most) of us did? Run the the boards. I mean really. People all over the world are talking about you, ya wanna know what they are saying. Andy Paige gave us the best piece of advice about the boards one day when she told us that "1/3 of the people will love you, 1/3 will hate you and the other 1/3 just won't give a s---". Man is that ever true.!......But back to the boards. So it's always interesting to see what people think of the show, the coaches, our process,the assignment, if people are getting as much out of it as we did, stuff like that. I mean really, why else would you watch a show like this if you weren't invested in the process of trying to improve your life? Right? Ok so imagine my surprise to hit the boards and read people just rippin' us to shreds for sport! I mean the nastiest sh-- you could say about someone just for the hell of it. People just trashing us mainly about things that don't have sh-- to do with why we (I) was on the show. My hair, the way I speak, the way I walk, and then coming up with all these far fetched conversations about my motives at any given moment. Let me tell ALL of you something. NOONE comes on a show like Starting Over to Get Famous. and if they do, they are delusional. Hello! The whole premise of the show is my life is Fu--up please help me!!! "
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MelJ 25 desperate attention whore postings
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05-08-06, 08:40 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-08-06 AT 08:48 PM (EST)
Jill was very well known before she came to SO a lot of people know about her old radio show and liked her.
I like Jill and I still do. I have always loved her for speaking her mind and being poised about it.
She is right we do rip these people to shreds BUT they should not have come to TV if they didn’t want that kind of attention. Famous people are in magazines all the time getting torn apart. Do SO women think their invincible, there on TV and putting themselves out there for us to see and be judged if they like it or not.
As far as Jill using SO to promote her life I think everyone one of us would do it as well.
I think people have been very far about who they trash. Like I said some are easy. The people who don't deserve it are not on the broads as much as others.
Can you tell I’m a JILL fan!!!!!
To be frank some of them are very easy targets.
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05-08-06, 08:51 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Jill's comments are a bunch of conflama! Did she ever birth the tumor? Was it a boy or a girl?
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05-08-06, 09:13 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
I can understand someone being offended by what can go on on these boards... but, the show is not about help. Anybody that goes on the show and thinks it changes their life is sadly mistaken. I'm sure as the years go by, the women will look back and say that while it may have been a good experience, their lives ultimately came down to themselves and how they handled them. The advice on the show can be good, sounds good anyway, so it gives you something to consider, but there is a reason that the houseguests get paid a stipend, that there is such a high turnout for CASTING calls, the word is CASTING... and a reason why particular women get chosen to be on the show - there needs to be a mix when being presented to a viewing audience. How is this going to PLAY is the first question likely being asked by the casting agents. Anyway - these boards reflect that reality, I think. It's about us keeping the "reality" of it at arm's length... because, there are no shortcuts in life. I do like some of the IDEAS expressed on the show, but I can assure you that when I'm trying to sort myself out, I'm not asking "what would Lisa do?, what would Jill do?" It's more like - 'well I know for sure I'm not that messed up'. Really - I think that's why I watch!! Okay - end of rant. (Oh - for the record, I was a fan of Jill... and I think good things were also said about her here... which she's probably taken to heart and used to believe in herself, perhaps. Besides, the first lesson in growth is seeing yourself as others see you.) Oh, also though, how can someone be truly offended by what is said here, because they must know that we don't really know them, or don't they know that? I don't think I would buy into what people would say about me here. Would you? Interesting topic.
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05-08-06, 11:15 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
> Anybody that goes on
>the show and thinks it
>changes their life is sadly
>mistaken. Yep. This women are thinking about publicity, money and being on television. I have no more illusions about SO or it's purpose. I'm glad this season is ending soon and the travesty will be over. >I'm sure as the years go
>by, the women will look
>back and say that while
>it may have been a
>good experience, their lives ultimately
>came down to themselves and
>how they handled them. Yep. Reality - these women are on the SO gravy train for about 2 months before the producers/writers get them off (does anyone really believe that LisaOne or LisaTwo were ready for graduation?). Yet that changes habits of a lifetime? Unlikely. It might spark a person to make personal changes in their life, but all we have to do is look at the SO track record and see that 90 percent of the "graduates" barely achieve anything.
>How is this
>going to PLAY is the
>first question likely being asked
>by the casting agents. And we know they script the graduation speeches and the confessionals. Known fact discussed many times on this board. We also know former SO HG's who complained about how they were portrayed - why? because they were being typecasted into a character the fits a SHOW WRITTEN BY SOAP WRITERS! >I
>don't think I would buy
>into what people would say
>about me here. Would
>you? Interesting topic. If I was a publicity hound yes I would care. It's public opinion, as portrayed on this board (somewhat) which is going to launch or not launch someone's television fame in the future. I think we can safely say that Allisham is not in the running for stardom on television.
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05-08-06, 08:55 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
I say Jill should build a bridge and get over it.If you are putting yourself out there deal with it or don't read it!It seems simple to me.Everyone just speaks their minds.
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05-08-06, 09:07 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
This is Jill's words. It gives her a little more Justice which I think she deserves.... Ok so as I was saying in the last post (HERE I AM) There are really hundreds, maybe thousands of people who post and write emails in reference to the show that really care about the process and are watching Starting Over to learn more about us and how in doing that they can learn more about themselves. 'Cause really, at the end of the day, we all want the same things. Love and Respect. To those who really have lifted us with your prayers and words of love and concern, thank you. You know how hard it is to tell the truth to yourself, let alone doing it in frontof 4 million plus people everyday!! To the rest, who use us as punching bags for your own misery, I say a prayer for you. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya! Now there are some things I've found on the boards that are DOWN RIGHT hilarious! Like the Be A HouseGuest thread on Realitytvworld.com. Ok, I have been laughing ALL DAY at that. Sent the link to Everyone 'cause that's some funny sh--. It's a parody of all things Starting Over. Laugh out loud funny! I even thought of logging on as the 40 pound tumor, or Miss Mable, but I think they're taken. It's a riot. Written, taken and received in pure jest. Totally cool. So trust that we (I) have a sense of humor. It's almost like the Saturday Night Live version of Starting Over. Too funny! It's that other foolishness that we've all stopped reading 'cause it's innuendo and speculation taken as fact. Someone else's filters on why the hell we're on the show. Waste of time. Talk to a houseguest if you really want to know what they truly meant or felt. That's a good practice in life as well. Go straight to the source.
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05-09-06, 05:31 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
See ya, wouldn't want
>to be ya!
>The above are her actual words? Lordy sakes alive if so...just heard a 13year old neighbor say that the other day. chuckling
If she doesn't mind being made a fool of on national tv (Della Reese and the court case) then why would she care about what mere *mortals* have to say?
I liked Jill but after seeing her blog comments that have been recopied here I wonder if she learned anything from the show?
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annie828 0 desperate attention whore postings
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05-08-06, 09:23 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Kelly had a friend who posted on Jokers and gave an update about meeting Kelly and Jill, and this is what he said about putting together a 3 min "reel" for them."They are doing some speeches/tours soon and they want a reel that captures their time in the house. Jill also wants it as an audition type of thing when she's looking for other Hollywood type work. And she also wants to put it up on her website." So don't go and be a hypocrit Jill, because the cat is out of the bag...."Jill also wants it as an audition type
of thing when she's looking for other Hollywood type work. Give me a break!
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05-09-06, 00:34 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
annie828 wrote:
>Kelly had a friend who posted
>on Jokers and gave an
>update about meeting Kelly and
>Jill, and this is what
>he said about putting together
>a 3 min "reel" for
>them.
>
>"They are doing some speeches/tours
>soon and they want a reel
>that captures their time in
>the house. Jill also wants
>it as an audition type
>of thing when she's looking
>for other Hollywood type work.
>And she also wants to
>put it up on her
>website."
>
>So don't go and be a
>hypocrit Jill, because the cat
>is out of the bag...."Jill
>also wants it as an
>audition type
>of thing when she's looking for
>other Hollywood type work.
>
>Give me a break! annie,
Please don't take offense to what I am going to say. Phil met with Jill and warbling Christie. He knows and is a friend of Kelly. I lump Kelly with the likes of Teresa, Karen1, Hannah, Susan, Sinae, Jennifer2, Candy, and Megg. (There are probably one or two I am missing, but, I'm in a rush right now.) In and out, got the lesson and m.o.v.e.d on with their lives. That's what I thought this show was 'posed to be about. It lost that focus and has become a parody of itself...
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05-08-06, 09:33 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
>I hope this is an okay
>place to post this.
>If not, I'm sure the
>powers that be will let
>me know! I recently
>visited Jill's website to find
>that she has a blog
>about us "posters". Interesting reading....
>
>
>Jill says: "Which of
>course brings me to all
>the MISERABLE people on the
>message boards. Ok, yes
>the FIRST thing all of
>the coaches told us was
>to STAY OFF THE MESSAGE
>BOARDS, and what's the first
>thing we all (well most)
>of us did? Run
>the the boards. I
>mean really. People all
>over the world are talking
>about you, ya wanna know
>what they are saying.
>
>Andy Paige gave us the best
>piece of advice about the
>boards one day when she
>told us that "1/3 of
>the people will love you,
>1/3 will hate you and
>the other 1/3 just won't
>give a s---". Man
>is that ever true.!......But back
>to the boards. So it's
>always interesting to see what
>people think of the show,
>the coaches, our process,the assignment,
>if people are getting as
>much out of it as
>we did, stuff like that.
>I mean really, why else
>would you watch a show
>like this if you weren't
>invested in the process of
>trying to improve your life?
> Right? Ok so imagine
>my surprise to hit the
>boards and read people just
>rippin' us to shreds for
>sport! I mean the nastiest
>sh-- you could say about
>someone just for the hell
>of it.
>
>People just trashing us mainly about
>things that don't have sh--
>to do with why we
>(I) was on the show.
>My hair, the way I
>speak, the way I walk,
> and then coming up
>with all these far fetched
>conversations about my motives at
>any given moment. Let
>me tell ALL of you
>something. NOONE comes on
>a show like Starting Over
>to Get Famous. and if
>they do, they are delusional.
> Hello! The whole
>premise of the show is
>my life is Fu--up please
>help me!!! "
Simply put - THE TRUTH HURTS............ and that's why they think "WE" are the miserable ones. They just can't stand reading people's honest perceptions of them (which we can only perceive based on what they, themselves, show us.) Too bad, Jill, Andy and the others - GET OVER IT!
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05-08-06, 09:40 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
How do you guys find the SO womens websites? Do they all just set one up? Can I google and find them? It would seem hard since we dont know last names. Please help!
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05-08-06, 10:27 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
If you check the SO Links thread in General Discussion many, if not most, of the houseguest myspace account links have been listed.And, may I offer a mods thanks to those of you who have participated in this discussion so far. This is a topic that has been discussed before, but that thread is probably long in the archives, so this one has been left open. I appreciate that you've kept it on topic and no one has used it to jump onto Jill's bandwagon to bash each other about your varied opinions. Those who go onto television to air their issues and personalities open themselves willingly to public opinion and criticism. Posters expressing their opinions, supportive or not, are simply providing the commentary they have chosen to invite. That's why we allow criticism of shows and people appearing on them, but require civility among posters. It keeps the focus on the show you're here to discuss, and off of each other. (BTW: If Jill, or any other HG does decide to sign up and post here the same rules apply. You'll still be able to criticize the person, and actions of the person, on the show, but not the comments/opinions of the poster - even if they are one and the same.)  
An Arkie curious cub blogging's scary
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05-08-06, 11:38 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Annie828,You hit the nail on the head. The proof is in the pudding. According to Jill, NO woman goes on SO to get famous, and if they do, then they are "delusional". I think we should consider what Jill, who now calls herself a "radio & television personality" (where did the television credit come from???), has been doing since she left SO. She moved to LA, got her SO footage, found someone who was willing to put a "reel" together gratis, and she has met with at least one network executive (yes, that is what she says...). That "reel" Jill plans to use as proof of her screen magnetism, wit, and "it" factor, would be dramatically different if she omitted the reality show footage, and only included the balance of her body of work. Ooops! The reality show IS her body of work, so I guess the reel would be.....um, blank. Reels are, by their nature, self-serving - but this one is in a class by itself. The speeches from Jill's graduation that praise her to the heavens, her "audition" at a radio station courtesy of SO, the mock radio show in the SO living room in which she laughs about her thievery, Iyanla's now infamous "Dismantling the Myth" homage, Jill laughing in the kitchen, crying in the study, the story of the cupcake...it's all there and it's all Starting Over (and nothing else). Are we are expected to believe that this disgraced former DJ (who admitted that she wants to be a star) never thought that playing out her story on a national, Emmy-winning television program would garner her anything more than a gold-plated statuette, a graduation gift that would be at home on the stage of "The Price is Right", and a membership in the SO sisterhood? It sure is a good thing that Jill didn't plan any of this stuff before she went to the SO audition -- I mean House -- because if she was judged by her own standard, she would be labeled "delusional". If Jill can overcome the tremendous odds and get herself on the red carpet, television, or the silver screen - then kudos to her. I mean that - it's tough. But at least be honest about it. It would be more palatable if Jill didn't address the subject if she wasn't willing to admit that somewhere in her mind, she was hoping to be cast on SO to breathe life into her career. She had to get back in the public eye, and she had to make connections with people in the industry if she was going to have a shot at her dream to "enlighten, educate, and entertain". So Miss Jill doesn't have much use for us and our miserable attitudes. That's OK.
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05-09-06, 00:34 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
SR, that network exec. was the one she met on SO, remember she went to his office. I bet all those DAW's read this board.
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05-09-06, 10:00 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
I don't believe much of what Jill says....I personaly don't think Jill met and executive at all....she is just flashing around the title to make it sound like things are happening for her.Jill also states on her myspace that she is DOING voice over work....if she was doing "proffesional" voiceover work, she would have an agent, and her demo she has on her site wouldn't be just her doing different readings....on that one page she advertises on for talent....she has the same demo....a real demo for an actual job would have all the other "special effects" like background music...etc. (you can tell the difference) which also proves she has NEVER done a proffesional VO. How can this woman even be making rent with a 1 day 3 hour job? She knows that we know that. Jill needs to get off her fat a$$ and get her medical issues taken care of and lose some weight and buy a car....she lives in Long Beach...who is driving her to these voiceover "auditions"
She also doen't list an agent on her "resume" on her talent site....and to get any "real" job auditions, she needs one. I just don't take much stalk into what Jill speaks. JMO
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05-09-06, 02:41 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
She said she was a DJ in Miami on an AM radio station, so that may explain it.
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05-08-06, 10:19 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
I have always thought Jill was a few fries short of a happy meal and that she was an obnoxious hog both for food and attention. Face it she was not "well known" in radio (only in her own mind) or she would have been heard coast to coast like Ryan Seacrest or Casey Kasum. She was fired from her job for mouthing off, she stole stuff and got caught and she went on SO because she wanted the exposure to try to chase her dream of being famous and living in LA to appease her low self esteem. Sorry Jill they aren't making any more Free Willy whale movies so go back in the hole you came out of have some more in depth conversations with your cupcakes and move on. Or should I say moooooooove on ya cow. She is too lazy to ever make anything of herself because it takes effort and heaven knows it wears her out just to breathe. If she was so popular and so busy she wouldn't have time to read the various MB's.
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05-09-06, 00:40 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Oh dear...I just knew that you SO girls would see all this stuff!
Jill...I loved you, dear! You were my fave!
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05-09-06, 01:49 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Oh Jill honey,
Look, I know you want to enlighten, teach and entertain, but honey -- up until SO paid for you come to CA, you were livin' with your mama, no job and pitiful. Come on now. How are you gonna enlighten us? Entertain? Your cute-isms were just that - cute for about 5 seconds. My three year old comes up with some good'uns, maybe I should get him an agent? Teach? Hmmm - what? How to shoplift? Nah. You are't fooling us silly. Not all of us have our 'filters' on! You are trying to use that psycho babble to make yourself feel better, but you are just riding the SO publicity tour as long as your 15 minutes will last...and then it will dry up and guess what? Honey, you are going to have to live real life like the rest of us. Pay check to pay check, without anyone telling you how cute you are.Sigh. I really adored you too. Why, why must they all be STARS! What's in the water in CA? I'm 'es-cared'!
Wink!~
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05-09-06, 10:32 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Well for the love of Christmas, is this the pot calling the kettle black or what? I dont' luv ya either and never did and Ditto to everything SOfan has said. Buh bye now Jill and dont let the door hit you in the Arse on the way out.
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05-09-06, 02:59 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
I agree - have no problem with her bashing the posters... but... the whole thing about defending why she went on the reality show - I don't buy it.It's obvious that the siren call of being on television is an intrinsic part of why people go on SO. If it was to get real help they would be seeing a counselor AT HOME! (Earth to Kim? Earth to TJ? Earth to Christie?) Self-Display is a huge factor for these women, hence the continue presence in the media with websites and myspace websites. There is a deep seated need to jerk themselves off in public and have us all ooh and aah about it. Personally, I have not chosen to go on television and that keeps me a private person - by journalist definition Jill and the rest of the SO exhibitionists are now PUBLIC people who can have photos taken of them in public places, have their private life writ up in the rags and have their own motives be questioned in editorials. That's legal because they have chosen to become public people. Personally, I've decided to start doing my pole dancing and boa work at home, in private, with my own handyman. I don't need SO or the SO' HG's to tell me how to fix myself up. Oh Brother.
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05-09-06, 05:20 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
>Damn Labyrinth, you are sooo good.
> I love your posts! Thanks! I don't post very often anymore. >I believe
>that is the gateway to
>all healing...look to the pole
>and boa! HEY!! Look to the Pole, Luke! ~ Obi-wan >I think the life coaches should
>have address their, uh, "deep
>seated need to jerk themselves
>off in public", don't you? Don't hold your breath - both Rhonda and IV love exhibitionism on television too. Although IV is good about calling out everyone else about their fat issues then herself. > Seriously, I have friends
>that have web sites for
>family updates and stuff, but
>who goes around on 'myspace'
>and writes to strangers with
>all these blogs about themselves
>if they don't have this
>need for publicity and approval.
> Ugh. Bleck. Well I've been a webmaster for 12 years. I've had websites that received over 50,000 monthly visitors. I know more about the "seamy underbelly of the Internet" then I really want to know. These women, including Jill, are incredibly naive. Once SO goes off this season, all this publicity will be as one dim memory. I like Jill and was her fan. Now I'm not so sure. Why? Because of some evidence that she thinks she is above her fans. That's one sure way to get into trouble and she may want to talk to some real Hollywood stars about trashing the fans and how far that gets you.
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05-10-06, 11:36 AM (EST)
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64. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
>
>Self-Display is a huge factor for
>these women, hence the continue
>presence in the media with
>websites and myspace websites. There
>is a deep seated need
>to jerk themselves off in
>public and have us all
>ooh and aah about it.
>
This is just poetic. The biggest jerk-off in my book to date is Jessica, who couldn't grieve in private but could cry and snot it up profusely while on camera. Apparently, she and the other women can't validate their feelings themselves, they need millions of other people to do it for them.Christie is another professional attention hog. Both she and Jessica can't speak normally in the confessional but can do so when talking to others. Why sit in the confessional and speak to the public in your worst, made-up, 'gravelly' voice? Looking for pity and sympathy? I am tired. Also these women who want to bash message board posters should remember that if there was no one watching the show there would be a forum for their whiny behinds. >Personally, I've decided to start doing
>my pole dancing and boa
>work at home, in private,
>with my own handyman. I
>don't need SO or the
>SO' HG's to tell me
>how to fix myself up.
>Oh Brother. You go girl.
>
Or we could all set-up live cams in our homes and broadcast our daily dramas to the world and each other. Would that be fun or what? We could all ham it up for each other.  See who could be the biggest drama queen!
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Cleverone 759 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-06, 00:22 AM (EST)
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53. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Did we not judge her and bad mouth her first??? Sooo, she's striking back and if her take of this board is that we're "miserable" then that's her opinion .... which is what brought me to the first admendment rights issue....because she's allowed to have a voice...noone posted that...it was strickly my initiative to convey that fact . Jill's just doing what most people do when they've been judged and criticized...they retaliate. Jill's capitilizing on her fifteen minutes of fame just as the others do...and why shouldn't she???...especially while she can and particularly since she's dissing her proteges. I know we expect them to be "perfect" when they leave SO, but they're not...they're a "work in progress" and sometimes they'll get it wrong, afterall, they're just human like the rest of us. ...On a lighter note...it helps me to remember that opinions are like a$$holes...everybody's got one. ****************************
"I walk in my own shoes..."
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05-10-06, 09:15 AM (EST)
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60. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Clever1 I agree with everything you wrote - and I have no problem with Jill kvetching about message boards etc... but here's a word of advice from me - and yes I've done PR work and I've been in the media mostly print ---Jill needs to really keep her mouth shut. Even if personally she is mad or upset it does her no good to say anything nasty about the online community. All it will do in the long run is hurt her. Internet rumors and gossip fly fast. They are easily copied and emailed to a dozen friends - who email a dozen friends - who email a dozen friends. Your reputation can be damaged beyond repair while you are drinking your morning coffee. IF Jill wants to be a celebrity - and heck I don't care WTF she does after leaving SO - then she needs to really think what that means - It means a.) listening and reading and viewing a lot of crap about yourself written by people who don't even know you; b.) it means taking the high road and ignoring it (as long as it is not illegal such as National Enquirer level crap); and c.) it means fame is FLEETING. Jill may have some talent but there are a lot of people who have a personality that appeals to a tv audience and there are tons of talented radio personalities out there. What she had with SO, I have no problem with her capitalizing on however, I've had some private information and experience that makes me very wary of Jill and what she thinks can be accomplished at this point.
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05-10-06, 03:07 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Lab - that was THE definitive post on this subject.Factually, you are so on target that I'm convinced that you know what you're talking about (not that I've ever doubted your credentials). Fighting cyber-wars on message boards is NOT, NOT, NOT a positive move for someone who is trying to break into "the business". She needs to be professional, thick-skinned, and busy. Any credible manager or agent would drive that principle into Jill's head. "Your reputation can be damaged beyond repair while you are drinking morning coffee" - the only thing I would add (which wouldn't change a thing) is "before you get your second cup". Type this up and send it to her, Lab. You'll be doing her a huge favor. *******************************************
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05-10-06, 03:58 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
>Lab - that was THE definitive
>post on this subject.
>
>Factually, you are so on target
>that I'm convinced that you
>know what you're talking about
>(not that I've ever doubted
>your credentials). LOL! Love ya, mean it!  I think of all the old times with Snowflake and SR posting meaningful thoughts...
>Type this up and send it
>to her, Lab. You'll
>be doing her a huge
>favor.
Just a personal aside, last year was a year of trying to tell my students some meaningful things and it came up and bit me on the a** so nowadays I've decided that each individual can sink or swim on their own. You know that drowning people usually drag down and kill the rescuer? The information is out there in the Universe for anyone who can ground themselves with the Earth. I think Jill is savvy enough that she will get something out of SO for herself; unfortunately she will learn some hard knocks along the way - and this is one.
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05-10-06, 05:55 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
>
>
>I know we expect them to
>be "perfect" when they
>leave SO, but they're not...they're
>a "work in progress"
> and sometimes they'll get
>it wrong, afterall, they're just
>human like the rest of
>us.
>
Umm....speaking only for myself....I have never expected them to be perfect.
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05-11-06, 06:23 AM (EST)
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74. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
>Come on now....turn about is fair
>play..."posters" who trashed Jill complain
>because she's doing the same
>thing to them????....What's good for
>the goose is just as
>good for the gander...and yes
>I liked Jill and still
>do, especially because she tells
>it like it is. I
>have no problem with her
>first amendment rights as well
>as ours to post opinions
>on this board or anywhere
>else. Peace!
>
>****************************
>"I walk in my own shoes..."
>
>**************************** I liked (liked=past tense)Jill also and agree she has the right to trash posters... BUT ...When she lumps all into one category I take offense to that.
Also, even though she has the first amendment right on her side why stoop to these *miserable* (her word not mine)posters level?
And her comment: see ya, wouldn't want to be ya is real mature, NOT. If nothing else, any perspective employer could see the real Jill by looking at her myspace and watching her on tv. She has shaved some eyars from what she said it was on tv to what she states it is on her myspace. Wasn't one of her goals (within her main goals) to be confortable with her self, her image etc...would think if she is lying about ehr age then she did not achieve all her steps.
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05-09-06, 01:35 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Jill, by self-admission, doesn't know where she is gonna get her next rent payment. She is so overweight and out-of-shape that she can barely breathe or move. She has health problems. Getting p!ssed that SO viewers on a message board discuss her acting the fool on TV should be pretty low on her "worry" list right now.Jill wants to be an inspiration to women, yet she won't even get a job? Personally, I'm much more "inspired" by those women who do any kind of job in order to be productive, non-stealing members of society and support themselves and/or their families, rather than a fat, delusional, middle-aged baby looking for others to support her fantasies of fame and stardom. 
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05-09-06, 05:56 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
If that's really how she feels, how come they ALL show up for ANY CAMERA TIME they can get??? Take Jessica, for example. Was it necessary for her to show up at every single thing SO puts on up to and including Antonia's Poetry Slam? I notice old big-butt JILL was there,too - trying to extend their 15 minutes of fame??? Or to show "support" blah, blah, blah.
And why would Jill think she could do a talk show like Oprah if she hadn't had her face on television for what, months???
And how come she had a demo made of all her "appearnces" on television, if all she was after was "help"...
The only ones who actually came to SOH for "help" are the ones who keep their mugs off the screen after graduation and DON"T MOVE TO LOS ANGELES, for cryin' out loud. What a doofus!
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05-10-06, 01:23 AM (EST)
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54. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Labrynth says "...by journalist definition Jill and the rest of the SO exhibitionists are now PUBLIC people who can have photos taken of them in public places, have their private life writ up in the rags and have their own motives be questioned in editorials. That's legal because they have chosen to become public people."And what I find really disturbing is that they've given up their anonymity without the huge financial compensation that usually goes with fame... and that's just dumb. Creepyoldwoman says " except for Andy, no one hears about anyone from Seasons 1". Yeah I find that interesting too... I still think season 1 was the most real. I keep remembering that Rain from season 1 actually had a job while she was in the Starting Over house. And Josie really was having that baby... and she really wanted to leave the SO house... I don't think she gave a damn about fame.
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05-10-06, 04:03 AM (EST)
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56. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Jill has a right to retaliate, and she's well aware of that. Every celebrity of significance has been the subject of "We Hate _____________" websites. They print rumors, horrible or hurtful opinions, ugly pictures, etc. Of course for every negative site, legitimate celebs have 10 positive fan sites. Jill may consider herself a "personality", but she is no celebrity, and statistics indicate that she probably never will be. The type of support Jill enjoys is not enough to launch her into the Hollywood stratosphere, but, at the very least, she has a sizeable group of on-line friends and supporters because of her participation in SO. The fact that there are people on this thread who are telling us that they were Jill fans, and are now pulling away from her should give Jill pause. These are not the same people who concluded that her behavior, attitude, and personality on the show were offensive or unappealing. These are people who believed she was credible and talented. IMO, Jill is lucky to have a single fan who is not a personal friend or family member. She should not be giving any fan the impression that she is above them. For whatever reason, she's done that - not to everyone, but to some. The pattern of her life (as depicted on SO) is that she learns the hard way. She has a huge sense of entitlement, whether it is taking what she wants but can't afford or lashing out at people she doesn't like. I am not convinced that 8 weeks with Iyanla and Dr. Stan have changed her significantly. I believe she will end up in the same regret a second time. For her own benefit, Jill would do well to remember that the fans who love you when you are at the crawling stage of your public career are the most precious - not the ones who may be cheering you on if you ever cross the finish line and pick up the trophy. So let Jill hammer away. Feeling vindicated may prove to be a hollow victory after all. *******************************************
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Redbud 573 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-06, 05:46 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-06 AT 05:52 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 05-10-06 AT 05:49 PM (EST) >Jill has a right to retaliate,
>and she's well aware of
>that.
>
>Every celebrity of significance has been
>the subject of "We Hate
>_____________" websites. They print
>rumors, horrible or hurtful opinions,
>ugly pictures, etc. Of
>course for every negative site,
>legitimate celebs have 10 positive
>fan sites. Jill may
>consider herself a "personality", but
>she is no celebrity, and
>statistics indicate that she probably
>never will be. The
>type of support Jill enjoys
>is not enough to launch
>her into the Hollywood stratosphere,
>but, at the very least,
>she has a sizeable group
>of on-line friends and supporters
>because of her participation in
>SO.
>
>The fact that there are people
>on this thread who are
>telling us that they were
>Jill fans, and are now
>pulling away from her should
>give Jill pause. These
>are not the same people
>who concluded that her behavior,
>attitude, and personality on the
>show were offensive or unappealing.
> These are people who
>believed she was credible and
>talented.
>
>IMO, Jill is lucky to have
>a single fan who is
>not a personal friend or
>family member. She should
>not be giving any fan
>the impression that she is
>above them. For whatever
>reason, she's done that -
>not to everyone, but to
>some.
....>For her own benefit, Jill would
>do well to remember that
>the fans who love you
>when you are at the
>crawling stage of your public
>career are the most precious
>- not the ones who
>may be cheering you on
>if you ever cross the
>finish line and pick up
>the trophy.
>
>So let Jill hammer away.
>Feeling vindicated may prove to
>be a hollow victory after
>all.
>
>******************************************* Great post! There have been a few posters who claim that Jill has the right to post whatever opinion she wants. They are right, she sure does, but that wasn't the point, and I've not read one single post saying she had no right to her opinion. It's that after all her many months at SOH and claims for such self revelation, that she turns around and does to the board members EXACTLY what she is name-calling us for. So if we are "miserable" for our opinions - than what is she for name calling and writing her comments?? One big difference is that we have seen her live, breath, cry, laugh and work through therapy after therapy on tv. So we know far more about her than she knows about us. We have significantly more to "judge" her on than she does us. I respect everyone's opinion here - I only point out that some people who defend her here have also been singled out by name in her column as posters she likes. I guess it's obvious why and there is NOTHING wrong with that, I just say Free speech for ALL! Jill came to SOH with a history of getting fired for shooting off her mouth and saying inappropriate things...maybe she hasn't learned her lesson after all.
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05-10-06, 03:07 AM (EST)
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55. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
I totally agree with Jill. I'm looking forward to becoming a life coach so I really looked forward to all I would get out of the show so when I first starting reading the message boards I was also shocked by some of the harsh comments. I would have thought that people would have wanted to go on the life changing road with these women but instead they wanted to pick them apart . I can't say that nasty comments don't come into my head but then I start to think what is my real motive and am I just being ugly for ugly's sake. People tend to have a good ole time ripping people to shreds while they sit behind they're computer but if they were face to face they wouldn't dare say the things they freely type because that would be considered rude. I think the reasons people go on SO is different than other reality shows. These people really want to fix their lives but just don't mind doing it on national tv. These woman have to work really hard to graduate. It's not like they can just walk in the door and pretend to complete assignments. And the fact that Jill and some of the other women have taken advantage of the opportunities that have come with SO doesn't mean they're hypocrites. Just because you may want to get ahead in life doesn't mean they wouldn't have hurt feelings if they read something nasty some random person had written about them. Message boards are a great avenue but sometimes people could play nicer and consider how they would feel if the shoe was on the other foot. >I hope this is an okay
>place to post this.
>If not, I'm sure the
>powers that be will let
>me know! I recently
>visited Jill's website to find
>that she has a blog
>about us "posters". Interesting reading....
>
>
>Jill says: "Which of
>course brings me to all
>the MISERABLE people on the
>message boards. Ok, yes
>the FIRST thing all of
>the coaches told us was
>to STAY OFF THE MESSAGE
>BOARDS, and what's the first
>thing we all (well most)
>of us did? Run
>the the boards. I
>mean really. People all
>over the world are talking
>about you, ya wanna know
>what they are saying.
>
>Andy Paige gave us the best
>piece of advice about the
>boards one day when she
>told us that "1/3 of
>the people will love you,
>1/3 will hate you and
>the other 1/3 just won't
>give a s---". Man
>is that ever true.!......But back
>to the boards. So it's
>always interesting to see what
>people think of the show,
>the coaches, our process,the assignment,
>if people are getting as
>much out of it as
>we did, stuff like that.
>I mean really, why else
>would you watch a show
>like this if you weren't
>invested in the process of
>trying to improve your life?
> Right? Ok so imagine
>my surprise to hit the
>boards and read people just
>rippin' us to shreds for
>sport! I mean the nastiest
>sh-- you could say about
>someone just for the hell
>of it.
>
>People just trashing us mainly about
>things that don't have sh--
>to do with why we
>(I) was on the show.
>My hair, the way I
>speak, the way I walk,
> and then coming up
>with all these far fetched
>conversations about my motives at
>any given moment. Let
>me tell ALL of you
>something. NOONE comes on
>a show like Starting Over
>to Get Famous. and if
>they do, they are delusional.
> Hello! The whole
>premise of the show is
>my life is Fu--up please
>help me!!! "
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-06, 06:06 AM (EST)
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58. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Yep she was a gossip show radio host who said ever so proudly that she used to dig through people's trash to get dirt to use about them on her show. My oh my how famous and well known she was! Yes the famous and chic must be digging through people's trash to get dirt to use to criticise others <rolling eyes>. She can dish it out but heaven forbid someone treat her the same way by saying thigns about her. The rules of engagement are always different for her. BTW what famous people live in Miami that she could find enough gossip to fill a radio show? What famous people would not live in a gated community precisely to keep riff raff like her from digging through trash? That being said I can very easily picture Jill up to her waist in trash with a banana peel and rotten food hanging off her curly lokcs but it isn't because she is diggin up gossip-she's looking for cupcake wrappers to lick LOL
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05-26-06, 04:54 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Hey LAshon009, good luck to you on your road to being a life coach. There are so many people out there that need help sorting through the issues life deals. I got to admire you as I would not want to wade through other peoples stuff. As for message boards and negative/positive feedback that is on them, I am very thankful to this message board. I can say exactly how a HG, an episode, a lifecoach assignment, etc. affected me without recourse or rebuttal. As for Ms Jill, and she WAS one of my favorite houseguests until she got too big for her already big breeches, my comments good or bad were based on what I saw her do on SO. And while I know the SO producers edit the shows to a certain extent there were several things Jill brought up that had nothing to do with production. She shoplifted because she wanted to be somebody she wasn't, that makes her a thief. She went on a tirade to a former boss and the radio light was on and she f'd this and f'd that on the airwaves, while I didn't hear it she did admit to it. Jill always talked about others causing conflama when she was right in the thick of it most of the time. If Ms Jill wants to be fawned over, there are plenty of message boards out there where you cannot express an displeasure with a HG. Nary a bad word can be said, she should contain herself to them and not worry about us 'miserables' on here. When you agree to go on SO, you open a whole bag of worms that you otherwise would not have in your life. People discussing and dissing your stuff is one of the prices you pay. Hopefully Jill has gotten from SO what she wanted. I find it hard to beleive she has however or she would have not have had to make a revisit just to deal with meeting daddy face to face and telling mom that it was not a nice thing she did by ignoring her at Christmas. But hey, what-eva. I wish Jill the best, like I said she WAS one of my favorites. Hopefully she will haul her butt off the couch, put down the cookies, doughnuts and any other pastry cousin and get on with her life. Time will tell.
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61. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
SeasonedRefinement wrote:
"The fact that there are people on this thread who are telling us that they were Jill fans, and are now pulling away from her should give Jill pause. These are not the same people who concluded that her behavior, attitude, and personality on the show were offensive or unappealing. These are people who believed she was credible and talented.
IMO, Jill is lucky to have a single fan who is not a personal friend or family member. She should not be giving any fan the impression that she is above them. For whatever reason, she's done that - not to everyone, but to some."I too WAS a fan of Jill. When she came into the house, she was the most REAL and HUMBLE....she didn't get involved in the gossip and drama in the house. I liked that about her. But when she jumped in that gossip sess pool of drama...she (LEAPED) in full force. Yes, Jill is a HYPOCRITE She isn't just trying to get into radio again...she is now trying to get into the whole Hollywood genre. She stated it herself on her blogs and myspace sites. She moved to California and is having acting demo's made and is posted on "Talent" sites...which is too bad she doesn't know that....THAT ISN'T HOW YOU GET ACTING JOBS! The problem with Jill, is that her head got way too big for her body....and we all know that is A LOT! Haha. She is not a celebrity...she never will be....Hey look at the statistics of this season 3 SO....CHristie wants to be a "super model" and actor....Christina now states she wants to be a model and actor...well and we all know what Summer wants.....They ALL brought on this themselves.....I feel NO sympathy for ANY of them! None...zilch. Maybe they should have kept their mouths SHUT.... JMO
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62. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
annie828: >>"I too WAS a fan of Jill. When she came into the house, she was the most REAL and HUMBLE....she didn't get involved in the gossip and drama in the house. I liked that about her."<<I too WAS a Jill fan at the beginning of her SO days. But she quickly lost my support and respect when she began showing the Jill she only talked about at the beginning. She did seem to come on to "fix" some things. But it didn't seem to take long for the previously-only-talked-about-Jill to return when she declaired herself fixed. Then the entitled-Jill showed up loud & strong, just using a few SO psyco-babble words & phrases to justify her superiority, entitlement, and self-declaired suppa-stah status. And it appeared as if Iyanla played right into Jill's vision of herself. Initially Iyanla talked to Jill about her entitlement issues, then later handed them right back to her, seeming to give her permission to "run with it". The territory is so familiar to Jill she felt right at home. Iyanla & SO gave Jill exactly what she longed for ... and IMO, that has done her more harm than good. Sure, it fed her already overly fed ego ... which does nothing but leave the self-esteem withering away in the background. Jill's ego had been fed enough. Sure, when you've fed that ego for a long time and begin to actually believe you are more than you ever can be, the ego SCREAMS for more. It doesn't go away quietly. The longer and more you feed it, the harder it is to put it in it's place. And who wouldn't want to believe they are great and so valuable to the world. But what good is it when you've left your inner self unfed while you run around looking for praise, pats on the back, fame, stardom. When you finally come to realize, no matter how great you think you are, regardless of who among the "who's who" knows your name, or how often you appear on television, you are and always will be only a bit player in the true scheme of things, that's when you can get down to being who you were meant to be and know that making an impact on even a very few is far more valuable than seeking your name in lights. IMO, SO is doing a real disservice this year to many who already have dilusional visions of their greatness. How they can comfortably aid & abet these "nobodies" who cannot possibly become "great" according to the world's definition, is beyond me. They are setting these people up for HUGE falls that could do serious damage in the long run. Is Jill thinking she is superior really helping her in her career, in her personal life, or with her health? Is Christie looking for someone to say she is beautiful and running from one reality show to another making her life or that of her brother's any better? Is Cassie's inability to face reality, her lack of direction, and not using her persistance for getting a job making her a better person? Did graduating SpitUpLisa and allowing her fake persona give her anything to help her find her way so that she might accomplish something she could be proud of in the second half of her life? Did Christina learn to be the mother her son could grow up proud of and give him stability in his life? Is Jessica someone accomplishing a life her mother could look down on and have a mother's pride in? Was this the vision the original creators of SO had in mind .... a show where dillusionals come on to get validation for that which is impossible ... only to fall harder than what they would have without the help of SO??? Sadly, if Jill doesn't truly change, take care of her self-esteem, not her ego, and her health, not her physical desires, she will fall. And the higher she puts herself up there, the further the fall. In the end, what we say doesn't matter. But rather than declair those who post against her or some of the things she does "miserable" she would do well to examine why she lost so many who initially jumped on her side ready to support and encourage her and now just wish she'd just go away.
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snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings
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05-11-06, 09:15 PM (EST)
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77. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Cleverone wrote: <<when you tear people down and they are thin skinned...it wears on them.>>
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I guess this is precisely what I don't understand...what makes a "thin skinned" person take themselves on TV? What makes a "thin skinned" person sit or lie around, fantasizing about stardom? If someone cannot bear any negative comments, yet still desperately wants to be a celebrity, it leads me to think they must either be phenomenally stupid to not know exposing yourself to public scrutiny (even on a small scale like Jill) means taking the bad with the good, or they are so phenomenally conceited that it's never even occurred to them that they could provoke any reaction other than gushing praise or adoration.Did Jill really think no one would ever mention her shoplifting past? She's massively obese...did she think no one would notice? Did she think everyone would find her gossiping/bullying "cute"? Did she think no one would make the comment that she went on SO in hopes of finding fame & fortune...especially since she is actively trying to use her appearance as a means to EXACTLY that??? I mean, if someone is "delusional" to think the HGs try to use SO to get Hollywood gigs, then someone who gets a 'reel" together of her SO appearance in order to try to get those Hollywood gigs must be...well, beyond delusional. What she says doesn't even make sense. And I'm really sick of these women thinking they should be exempt from the slightest hint of a negative comment because they try to hide behind the claim they went on this "sacred" show as a spiritual favor to all of humanity. It makes me want to say, "You went on a REALITY TV SHOW, now GET OVER YOURSELF!!!"
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Sumrsno 125 desperate attention whore postings
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05-12-06, 06:13 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Love all the posters comments about Jill.
Snowflake you hit the nail on the head when you said,"they went on this "sacred" show as a spiritual favor to all of humanity. It makes me want to say, "You went on a REALITY TV SHOW, now GET OVER YOURSELF!!!"
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annie828 0 desperate attention whore postings
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05-12-06, 01:38 PM (EST)
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81. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Well here is a "bit" form her newest blog:Since I have created such a wonderful network
of sista-friends (AND fellow-friends!) through
my life-changing adventure on NBC's Emmy award
winning show Starting Over, I hope to keep in
touch and to share the rest of the journey as I
pursue my goals of becoming a TV personality,
connecting with both sides of my family and losing
this 100 pounds!!!! What kind of TV Personality does she think she is going to be?
Jill....you will never be a TV personality "anything"
You will always and only get Radio status. Jill is so full of herself, she lost her ability to be "HUMBLE" Jill go out and get a real job....how is working 6 hours a week paying all your bills? Did you take care of your medical needs?
Get real Jill!
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moonoverxanadu 11 desperate attention whore postings
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05-12-06, 08:08 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Great point SR. Can someone please tell me what her website is?
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SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings
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05-12-06, 09:11 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-12-06 AT 09:16 PM (EST)Moon- The location of her site? If you go to the General Discussion Forum, read down the list of threads and you'll find a thread for SO web addresses and links. Click on that. If you go down that thread, you'll see a post that lists Jill's site, click on that. Once you're in, just point at the address and click. They've made it so easy for us! You'll be in wonderland before you know it! ETA: I just bumped the thread for you. It should be near the top depending on when you look ******************************************
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moonoverxanadu 11 desperate attention whore postings
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05-15-06, 05:13 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Thanks so much, Seasoned. I really appreciate it.
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Redbud 573 desperate attention whore postings
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05-12-06, 07:24 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Thanks Annie for including that little tidbit. Jill is believing her own crap...a big mistake. Seems her desires have changed and now all she wants it to become a pseudo-personality. Just another loser who doesn't want to get a real job and pay their way. Better to cash in on superficial crap. I say SOH should charge every guest that uses their name to try and get some coverage, a management or agent fee. I didn't really think Jill would turn out to be Allison or Sommer...just wanting a get rich quick scheme via SOH. UGH....they are a waste of time on that show.
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annie828 0 desperate attention whore postings
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05-25-06, 11:33 PM (EST)
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89. "Newer post about REALITY TV WORLD..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06 AT 11:35 PM (EST)Message Boards...My own personal porn! This is a small part of it......for those who haven't read it yet This entry was posted on 5/13/2006 8:29 PM and is filed under Hollywood Stories. Whew! What a day! There's been lots happening on Starting Over and much more to come in the next few weeks so I thought I would head on over to the message boards and see what was going on. Lo and behold I go to Reality TV World and there's a flaming thread about a blog I wrote back in March and a whole new string of discussions about it. Many thanks to those who tried their best to explain that I have the right to voice my opinion too and for those who identified themselves as the "miserable" people I mentioned on the boards, well god speed to you. Cause you're right. I willingly put myself in the public forum, I'd been there on a small scale in Miami for most of my career so it wasn't terribly unfamiliar territory. All of my positives and my faults on full display for the world to see. After all, My trophy reads "Here I Am". Out of hiding and ready to live my life out loud.
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Zoey 326 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-06, 03:10 PM (EST)
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90. "RE: Newer post about REALITY TV WORLD..." |
Well, take your most famous of celebreties - they are being talked about both positively and also really negatively.I'm sure before they became famous, they weren't prepared for the transision or the gossip mill to run wild on them. I think the only difference is that really famous people have PR people who tell them how to act and they aren't allowed to be as openly bitter since they make money for what they do. Humans are humans and no one is immune to being hurt. But unlike when you talk behind your friends back in high school, being on a reality show or any fame comes back to you. In regards to SO it's by both your house mates when you see the show and by the public. I think most people have negative or petty comments made about them. But most of us are "lucky?" enough to have it kept behind our backs. It would be nice if it didn't happen at all but that's not realistic.
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dasboot 223 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-06, 03:32 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: Newer post about REALITY TV WORLD..." |
>LAST EDITED ON 05-25-06
>AT 11:35 PM (EST)
>
>Message Boards...My own personal porn!
>
>This is a small part of
>it......for those who haven't read
>it yet ......and for
>those who identified themselves as
>the "miserable" people I mentioned
>on the boards, well god
>speed to you. Cause
>you're right. I willingly
>put myself in the public
>forum, I'd been there on
>a small scale in Miami
>for most of my career
>so it wasn't terribly unfamiliar
>territory. She sounds so smug and stuck up. You ain't all that and never will be. >All of my
>positives and my faults on
>full display for the world
>to see. After all, My
>trophy reads "Here I Am".
> Out of hiding and
>ready to live my life
>out loud. Well, YOU GO GIRL! You go right ahead and live your life out loud. But you won't be doing it at my house. That's right, you have been banned! BANNED! . Banned I tell ya! Just like Pharoah banned Moses from Egypt you, Jill Tracey, are being banned from my household. From this day forth let the name or evil  image of Jill Tracey never appear on my computer screen, my television, or any other medium she wishes to prostitute herself upon. So let it be written so let it be done. Banned!
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SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings
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05-26-06, 06:16 PM (EST)
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93. "RE: Newer post about REALITY TV WORLD..." |
dasboot,NOW you've found the silver bullet, the secret weapon, the answer! If Jill's message board searches yielded nothing -- no mention of Jill's treatment of her mother, no mention of Jill's weight, no mention of Jill's life of crime, no mention of flaming Jill threads -- well, her blogs might look a lot different. I think she'd suddenly find herself with a very limited selection of topics to address. Besides the message boards, there isn't much "Jill talk" going on anywhere else on the planet. Instead of playing the part of the controversial celeb, she might be forced to give her group of supporters some real information and updates. For example:
_________________________________ MY HOLLYWOOD CAREER - AN UPDATE: Well, I sent out xeroxed copies of my headshots and my resume to all the talent agencies within a 100 mile radius of my apartment. I included a cover letter that said I have a "reel" (that's industry lingo) I could send if they're interested in seeing Jill Tracey "on camera". I wish I could afford to put one CD in with every resume, but I had to borrow the money for the postage. Ya'll have to believe me when I say that being a starving artist is hard work. But you know me...I'm a purist in the sense that I won't waste even one calorie of energy prostituting this body at a job that doesn't include me being in front of a camera or behind a microphone. My cyber-manager and cyber-staff said that there is a phone number to call if people want to save Starting Over. That's great - I know that one more appearance on SO would put me over the top! So please, flood the lines with your support. Me? Um, my cyber-accountant told me that my operating account can't cover the installation of a phone line at my house right now, and those cell phones are just too expensive. I'd go to the corner pay phone and make a few calls to that number, but I need whatever quarters I have left to do my laundry. So I'm counting on ya'll to carry a sistah when she's down. I won't forget ya'll when I hit the big time. That should happen in about three weeks or so. I've tried calling Iyanla. Does anyone know if she's still out of the country? I mean, they've been telling me that for 5 months now. I only call her office because she changed her personal phone number. That @&$!%@ assistant of her's won't give me the new number - some BS about me not being "on the list". I'm trying to tell the girl to watch the shows from last year that feature me, but I can tell that she doesn't realize who she's talking to. If she could just see Iyanla and I together on film, if she could hear Iyanla saying that she's my coach "for life", I know she'd realize what happened here. Iyanla just assumes that everyone knows how tight we are -- it's like Iyanla was just assuming that her staff would know that I don't need clearance. I mean Iyanla's kids and boo-boo don't need clearance either, so what's the difference? I'm in the same category as them. So, it's all just a confusion, an oversight. I'm gonna have Iyanla fire that @$$%@ when she gets back in the USA.
________________________________ Jill LIKES to be the topic of discussion. Sure, she would love it if the feedback was overwhelmingly positive, with a few negatives thrown in for spice -- but, she'll take whatever she can get to prove that people are interested in her. I'm with you...Jill's banned! 
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maryellennaco 1084 desperate attention whore postings
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05-27-06, 00:35 AM (EST)
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96. "RE: Newer post about REALITY TV WORLD..." |
Annie, dasboot, & Seasoned: I'm with you!! BANNED!!! The name Jill Tracey will not be uttered from me, EVER AGAIN!!! I really liked the Big Mo referral, too!!
Seasoned, you are one hell of a writer... Too bad B-M Productions didn't hire YOU to write scripts for this show! At least there would have been some humor in amongst all that bulldookey that we call "season 3"
Good on all you girls!
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05-27-06, 08:57 AM (EST)
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97. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
>I hope this is an okay
>place to post this.
>If not, I'm sure the
>powers that be will let
>me know! I recently
>visited Jill's website to find
>that she has a blog
>about us "posters". Interesting reading....
>
>
>Jill says: "Which of
>course brings me to all
>the MISERABLE people on the
>message boards. Ok, yes
>the FIRST thing all of
>the coaches told us was
>to STAY OFF THE MESSAGE
>BOARDS, and what's the first
>thing we all (well most)
>of us did? Run
>the the boards. I
>mean really. People all
>over the world are talking
>about you, ya wanna know
>what they are saying.
>
>Andy Paige gave us the best
>piece of advice about the
>boards one day when she
>told us that "1/3 of
>the people will love you,
>1/3 will hate you and
>the other 1/3 just won't
>give a s---". Man
>is that ever true.!......But back
>to the boards. So it's
>always interesting to see what
>people think of the show,
>the coaches, our process,the assignment,
>if people are getting as
>much out of it as
>we did, stuff like that.
>I mean really, why else
>would you watch a show
>like this if you weren't
>invested in the process of
>trying to improve your life?
> Right? Ok so imagine
>my surprise to hit the
>boards and read people just
>rippin' us to shreds for
>sport! I mean the nastiest
>sh-- you could say about
>someone just for the hell
>of it.
>
>People just trashing us mainly about
>things that don't have sh--
>to do with why we
>(I) was on the show.
>My hair, the way I
>speak, the way I walk,
> and then coming up
>with all these far fetched
>conversations about my motives at
>any given moment. Let
>me tell ALL of you
>something. NOONE comes on
>a show like Starting Over
>to Get Famous. and if
>they do, they are delusional.
> Hello! The whole
>premise of the show is
>my life is Fu--up please
>help me!!! "
As the saying goes, Jill can eat sh!+ and die!
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05-28-06, 10:04 PM (EST)
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98. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
Why does she even care what some people on a message board think. If she's confident enough to go on a reality t.v. show and put her life on display then she must know that there will be people who disagree. She set herself up for ridicule. But really to write about it on her website??? She's in the wrong business and had better get some thicker skin than that. Who really gives a sh*t. I've got better things to do than follow some girls every move with e-bay or whatever. Get a life, you ain't that important
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Woo 87 desperate attention whore postings
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05-31-06, 03:32 PM (EST)
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99. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
OMG...I'm speechless. I seriously don't understand her need to respond to this thread. It's not that serious.
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100. "RE: Jill's comments about those of us on the Board" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-23-06 AT 01:24 PM (EST)Wow, I'm surprised at all I've read. It seems like Jill and the posters here who don't like Jill are more alike then un-alike. You all call Jill names and don't agree with her and she doesn't agree with you and calls you all names. Jill stands up for herself because as you all say lack of thick-skin but you all stick up for yourself too so you must have a lack of thick-skin. Maybe I'm old-fashion and I'll stay that way but it's not nice to put people down, there has been personal attacks here. Voice your opinions but some go too far. It's easy to talk bad about someone on a computer but half of us wouldn't do it in anyone's face. I think the Internet made a lot of cowards out of people. When you point a finger at someone else, there's always one pointing back at you. It's not about being thick-skinned, tough or words not hurting, words do hurt, words have gotten people killed, words have started wars, words starts fights. Words are powerful. Just treat people the way you want to be treated in real life or on the net. I think some put down others, especially stars, to make themselves feel good like their holy righteous or better. Don't try to act like you don't care about Jill or the other Houseguests because if you didn't you wouldn't tune in to watch them to make fun of them and you wouldn't post thousands of messages on here about them. If you just watch them to put them down you need SO more then them. It's sad some of you think stars are public property and you love to discuss their screw-ups. Their not public property their careers may be. Everyone is public property when we go out of the house someone can choose to talk about us or not. Going on SO bring a little fame as long as you all talk about them. SO is a TV show and if you can get gigs from it. Go for it. They deserve some reward for airing all their hurt, pains and dirt. Besides I think SO is part reality/part TV. Don't act like you all wouldn't love people's attention, getting tv/movie jobs, etc. Don't act as though you would turn down fame or a tv job if you were offered one. You all may not like Jill but there's many in the world who do. Whether negative or positive when you talk about Jill that's fame and you think she's important.
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