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"Jodis Control Issues"
cyndin 12 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 11:48 AM (EST)
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"Jodis Control Issues" |
Does anyone feel like Jodi thinks she's a life coach. Everytime she talks to any of the other house guests she is condesending and tries to tell them how they should be and uses all this life coach wording. I like Jodi and I know she will probably graduate soon but I hope her next surprise leason will teach her she's not always right.
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snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 12:34 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Baxtera wrote: << I watched Cassie zoned out, Christie pouting and Nimabi looking like a deer in the headlights I took a different approach. Jodi seemed like this was something that was fun to her and she was determined to get into it and do it.>> ---------------------------------------------------------- I agree, Baxtera. And may I add to your list...Antonia napping and Sommer looking off in another world, perhaps contemplating another exercise that involved groping herself.Jodi may have control issues, but from today's exercise, I can see glimpses into the reason why Jodi is apparently the only one of these women functioning in the real world with a real J-O-B. IMO, Jodi taking control is less of an issue than the rest of these women sitting back passively waiting for everything to be handed to them.
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snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 12:46 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Baxtera wrote: <<Mabye the rest figure they'll never own a door so why know how to fix it?>> -------------------------------------------------
LOL Or how about this: Now that we are gonna be SUPERSTARS from appearing on SO, we can just PAY someone to do those little jobs for us...you know, once all the big Hollywood offers start rollin' in..."
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EMTBGRL 2513 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 02:10 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Jodi's Control Issues" |
I have mixed feelings today about Jodi's control issues. On the one hand, Jodi took over. Jodi WAS controlling. No doubt in my mind about it. Jodi started by grabbing the directions to read aloud, and assigning teams, before they even attempted any repairs. When Jodi's name appears on-screen underneath her name Jodi's goal reads, "Relinquishing Control" -- In the spirit of the goal of 'relinquishing control,' I wondered why Jodi dove in and started assigning tasks/ teams and ordering the other HG's around. That did not seem like an effective way to address being controlling jmho. Someone cannot be an effective leader if they cannot follow. When they started working on the three tasks? It was apparent to me that Jodi is not a good follower, at all. She interpreted what she THOUGHT everyone else meant (because it was what she was thinking/ working on) On the OTHER hand, I have to look at this from the point-of-view that sometimes "leadership" can be perceived as "controlling." I've found myself in that boat more than once. Sometimes the other participants LEAD the person to believe he or she HAS to "take over." That's possibly true with Jodi and the HG. There was a running clock. They had 45 minutes. From what I've seen from the ladies so far? There's a minimal sense of "urgency" in accomplishing a task. I can't help but wonder what would have happened if Jodi stood stock still and said nothing in the beginning. What if she had made a conscious CHOICE "not" to be the "leader" or the one in control? What would have happened if Jodi actually 'relinquished control?' I am not so sure I have confidence that 2/3 of the three tasks would have been completed. (How long would they have DISCUSSED the actions, instead of DOING them?) --But, they very well could have come up with an equally good plan--or, maybe even a better one. Maybe all 3 tasks would have been completed. I think the frustration with Jodi is that her fear of failure at tasks, her need for perfection, leads to appearing self-absorbed and controlling to others. Controlling. Not trusting of other people's abilities/ capabilities. It also might explain the seeming apathy of the other HG. The classic, "If you don't think I can do it, I feel no need to prove that I can." The problem is that there is no established leader in these exercises. Anyone who takes command will be perceived as "controlling." Leaders are controlling. Good leaders delegate, though. They allow others to shine. That's harder on a time clock. And, I just have to add this: GOOD GRAVY! Are these women COMPLETELY incompetent? They freak out with "install a doorhandle." I found this insulting. I found it MORE insulting that they were not given proper tools (literally) for this assignment. One of the HG was unscrewing something with what appeared to be a BUTTER KNIFE! A good leader would have said, "We are not doing this until we have the tools we need without hurting ourselves." Nobody seemed to think of that. Not even Jodi. So focused on their conflama..."Forest for the trees" time.
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Juliejo 477 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-08-06, 02:26 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Jodi's Control Issues" |
I felt like it was a set-up to get Jodi to take control of things and make the other women upset. Why I ask you didnt one of the women tell Jodi right there and then, hey, you are trying to take control. But no, they just complained to each other about it. I got the impression from the Mask being back on Jodi's bed that she was going to have failed the test Iylanda was talking to her about. I know Jodi loved fixing all the broken things but it was supposed to be a team effort. I got the impression that the other women were coached to back off and allow Jodi to hang herself. IMO only. But remember I am wrong as many times as I am right. PEACE.
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sillybear 84 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-08-06, 08:51 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Jodi's Control Issues" |
I was thinking the same thing as you Julie.I also wondered about Iyanla coming and asking Jodie how the exercise went.Hmmmm interesting I think.Or was Jodie the only one around?I think this may be the start of Jodie's big test.She was set up to fail if the others were just going to sit around and whine.I was listening to Christie and thinking "give me a break,get up of your butt and get in there"!Jodi was contro;;ing but they were letting her.So I think there is something for them all to learn.
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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05-08-06, 03:03 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Jodi's Control Issues" |
I've worked with a few Jodi's on projects and the key is you need to speak up and advocate for yourself and get involved. I missed the very beginning but nobody seemed to be doing anything but sitting back like they were all hung over from a day of partying. While Jodi is overly aggressive the others suffer from lack of effort to accomplish anything without someone holding their hands and telling them I'm OK your OK. I would definitly have walked up and asked one of the handy women for a job to complete and completely bypassed Jodi all together. Instead Cassie curled up on the couch with her glasses on, what was she afraid the springs in the couch my gouge out an eye?
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SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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05-08-06, 04:14 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Jodi reminds me of TJ in this regard. She took flack for the same type of behavior. Whenever Iyanla would present one of these weird assignments, TJ would start talking about a plan. I understood her point of view, and because I liked her, it was easier to define TJ's behavior as good management. I'm not as fond of Jodi, but, the truth is that she is displaying the same type of leadership qualities that TJ did.I don't know that those women had a better leader among them than Jodi. I don't think she was trying to crowd anyone or insult anyone. I think she wanted to get the jobs done as quickly as possible - and without the right tools and with a time constraint, it was important to move. A bigger issue for me was the attitude of the other women. They were resistant, prideful, and basically, they refused to get with the program. It was a silent (for a while anyway) protest of sorts. *******************************************
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snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 04:39 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Yes, I was reminded of some of the group assignments with TJ as well. What is so striking to me is that these women are so eager to start conflict about another HG's "control issues", yet none of them seem capable of piping up at the time and saying something like, "Hey, we need to be included, too", or "Wait. I think I have a better plan...". Errr, could that be because without the "controlling" HG, there would be...no plan at all?? Or is it that they cannot confront anyone until the HG in question has been disparaged behind her back among the whole "posse"?My question is this...how is Jodi supposed to determine when the other HG's suddenly decide they want to actively participate in an assignment? For example, Christie just totally blew off the "find the playing cards" exercise, but we are expected to believe that today Jodi deprived the whole group of Christie-the-2-@ssed sloth's valuable input, effort and leadership?
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Bentley 19 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 07:02 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Oh yeah, and isn't Jodi's goal to relinquish control? Iyanla knew what was going on in the house when she talked to Jodi after the handyman exercise, so obviously knew that Jodi had again taken over an exercise. How come she is ready to graduate? The lifecoaches sure pick and choose what has any relevance.
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MizJazmine 532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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05-08-06, 05:00 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Naw...I don't think Jodi thinks she's a life coach. I think Jodi gives what she has, and she tries. I think Jodi tries to show up for the other hg's and she tries to support them. Just the other day Christie was saying how Jodi was being so supportive of her regarding brainstorming the 5K, and then today it was totally opposite. If Jodi's trying to be a LC, when did Christie become a psychologist? Christie was playing the "passive" game, then she got in the camera talking about Jodi being controlling and that the "mask" was back. All those women had the same opportunity Jodi had with the guest handywomen. It was their choice to hang back and not participate. As far as the "tool exercise" went, sure Jodi could have stepped back and somebody else could have stepped up like Christie, but she didn't and why should Jodi step back? Everybody in the room was an adult, they could have spoken up and/or disagreed. Instead of DOING something, Christie got in the camera and started complaining. Also Christie and all of them sat in group and didn't say one word when Iyanla asked them how the task went. Cassie being the oldest hg in age and SO experience, where were her tools? I agree with the poster who said something to the effect that Christie was just being manipulative. To some degree I think Christie is truly envious of Jodi's confidence, aggressiveness, and her ability to just step up to the plate. When a man's aggressive it's considered a good thing, but not for a woman. I know Jodi can be controlling, and I have mixed feelings about that especially because in this case she was in a group of passive women. Antonia wasn't there, and to me she's not passive. I think Christie should just come clean about the fact that she probably wishes she had some of the qualities Jodi has. Jodi is a strong woman. I think Christie wishes she was. Christie can get there, but it's not by way of manipulating, gossip, and passivity...although I know that has worked for some, it's just not of integrity IMHO. But then again, maybe if the handywomen had handed Christie a hammer she mighta knocked Jodi upside the head...Lawd knows Christie said she had some experience with that....
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kristin830 23 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 05:30 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
The entire house is so wrapped up in not wanting to be in the controlling limelight, they shun away. Time mgt. is not one of their better skills. I think they tend to over analyze everything they do because 9/10 times a life coach will come back and say why didn't you just do it this way. They all over think their group assignments unless they are arts and crafts. Jodi is self sufficient. She does tend to dominate, but sometimes that is necessary. I would much rather have Jodi install a door knob then the errand angel. I know it is hard, but sometimes I think we all are a bit critical of Jodi. I think her intentions are good, she is just very confident and the others are a tad on the mousey side (w/ the exception of Antonia). They are all so fearful of failure! It's O.K. to feel overwhelmed and anxious. That is life. It is how you approach situations is what counts. I think the ladies need to be reminded of that and stop getting into snits.
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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05-08-06, 05:54 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
I would much rather see them using their "tools" then sitting and being manipulative and gossipy after the fact. Christie did nothing to change the situation not did Cassie. They could have gotten the handy women involved in showing them how to do stuff in asking for instructions. Niambia looked like she was high standing with the drill pointing it at people. Cassie was pouting on the couch. Gee folks how about being big people and going to the instructors and saying I'd like to try something. You remember words?
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mirage3033 100 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 07:05 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Yes Jodi took over and Christie pouted, Niambi had the headlight look, Cassie looked hungover. What else is new LOL. What bugged me about the whole deal was when Christie attempted to talk to her about it Jodi puffed up and started talking out of the side of her mouth. Every time she becomes hostile she ceases to open her mouth fully and snaps out her replies with her mouth half cocked. Plus she stood over Christie instead of sitting on the bed and trying to listen. she was all attitude. what a waste of time trying to talk to Jodi about anything
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moonoverxanadu 11 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-08-06, 09:07 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
I totally disagree. I'm not going to try to muscle out a 200 plus pound control freaking bull dyke in order to do a task. I don't know what's worse........her control obsession or her smarmy attempts to fondle the other women! I think she's a spoiled brat. The minute she doesn't get her way or is criticized, it's "wah, wah, I just want to leave."
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SeasonedRefinement 1248 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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05-09-06, 09:19 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
MizJasmine,If I could put neon lights and arrows around your post, I would. It is perfect. I am not a Jodi lover, but her personality is what it is. The world is full of people who like to micro-manage tasks. Under the right conditions, it's a marketable trait. In social situations, it can be overpowering. But if these women have learned how to talk to the universe and tell it what they need, they should at least be able to muster the courage to address their peers in the same way. Really, what is so tough about gently touching Jodi's hand (to disarm her) and saying as nicely as possible, "Jodi, I'm feeling dominated, and when that happens, I end up feeling incompetent. Please, give me a little room. I'm going to handle this part of the project". End it with a smile, a wink, a joke - and it's over. If any drama ensues after that, it truly is Jodi's pride that's the problem. A lot of interpersonal conflict could be avoided if people would just respectfully say what's on their mind. Most of us are not clairvoyant and we're not mind-readers. It is rather unfair for anyone to expect someone else to read their thoughts by facial or tone of voice interpretation. But lets face it, it's a lot more fun to join a gossip posse (good word, Snowflake!) on a dull day than to squelch a potential conflict that could lead to some clandestine bonding, lol. *******************************************
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JustBNMe 526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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05-08-06, 10:28 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Jodi has trouble telling her fantasies from reality. She thinks she's a life coach and she isn't; she thinks she's a size 14 and she isn't; she thinks she is sexy and she isn't; she thinks she's alluring when she fondles the other HG and she isn't; she thinks she's the man of the house and she isn't. Well I assume she is a female but who can be sure with that ugly manly puss of hers and her manly ways of behaving. If Jodi isn't in control of everything and the center of attention she starts crying and says she just wants to give up and go home or that she isn't going to change to make other epople happy. It's always her way or she gets pi$$y and tries to say things are the fault of everyone else or that they expect her to change for them. She has never heard of give and take or compromise. That's why she has the life she has. When she graduates I will be thinking "love ya mean it buh bye toadie"
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Juliejo 477 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-09-06, 03:08 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
Christie is a whinner but Jodi is a BULLY. I would have Bullied back and told her to back off and not pi$$ and moan about her after the exercise was over. She just took control and they all allowed her to like they were afraid of her. She is a bully until she is confronted and then she bawls, I want to leave. wah wah wah. I am not a Toadie Fan but I am not a Christie fan either. Toadie is either being the bully or trying to seduce someone.
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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05-09-06, 03:11 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Jodis Control Issues" |
My issue is the with Christie and her relationship with Jodi is one moment she's the victim and the next moment the lover in bed all friendly and curled up. Which is it? Is she afraid and intimidated or comfortable and loving?
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