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"Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
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Joe_Schmo_Is_Poor 1 desperate attention whore postings
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10-13-03, 09:44 PM (EST)
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"Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
Since the show is rigged, then why does everyone think he wins? They will just let him and Hutch be the final two "survivors" and then everyone will vote for Hutch to win. His reaction would be so damn funny. Plus Spike can save $100,000.

Any comments? Everyone agree?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... erikman 10-13-03 1
   RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... OceansAngel16 10-14-03 2
       RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... erikman 10-14-03 3
           RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... OceansAngel16 10-14-03 4
               RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... erikman 10-14-03 5
                   RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... OceansAngel16 10-14-03 6
                       RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... erikman 10-14-03 7
                           RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... OceansAngel16 10-14-03 8
                       RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... Jpod5 10-14-03 9
                           RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... erikman 10-14-03 10
                               RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... OceansAngel16 10-14-03 12
                                   RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... erikman 10-14-03 13
                   RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... ryanpaige 10-14-03 11
               RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... Guppin1234 10-14-03 14
                   RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... ryanpaige 10-14-03 15
                       Case for fraud Guppin1234 10-14-03 16
                           RE: Case for fraud erikman 10-14-03 17
                               RE: Case for fraud kris6336 10-14-03 20
                           RE: Case for fraud ryanpaige 10-14-03 18
                               RE: Case for fraud erikman 10-14-03 19
                               RE: Case for fraud Guppin1234 10-15-03 21
                                   RE: Case for fraud Rabies 10-15-03 22
                                       RE: Case for fraud erikman 10-15-03 23
                                           RE: Case for fraud Soft_Myst 10-16-03 24
                                               He's too much of a softee for law Guppin1234 10-16-03 25
                                                   RE: He's too much of a softee for l... Soft_Myst 10-16-03 26
                                               RE: Case for fraud LynneAndReef 10-16-03 27
 RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,... Acawap 10-17-03 28
 Discussed before AyaK 10-21-03 29

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erikman 324 desperate attention whore postings
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10-13-03, 10:27 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
i have been sayng the 100,000 is as fake as the show for a long time but the prize is alot more closer to a mill. yea i think they vote for hutch. then they tell him it is fake then they give him betwean 500,000 and 1,000,000
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10-14-03, 01:21 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
why do you get your info from that he gets closer to a mil?
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erikman 324 desperate attention whore postings
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10-14-03, 01:35 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
>why do you get your info
>from that he gets closer
>to a mil?
stone stanley does not want the bad publicidy they have shows on pax if they try to go cheap they get shows cancled and boycoted then theres the lawsuits not worth the trouble.

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10-14-03, 05:53 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
But if Matt signed a contact that said "You do not necissarily win any money" he cannot sue them for not getting any money, unless he finds someone who is incredibly cleaver and can find a loophole in that..

And because he doesn't pay a guy a lot of money for this doesn't mean people will boycot Stone Stanleys other shows, nor does it mean they will be cancled on pax..

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10-14-03, 06:01 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
yea the rigged game show loophole stonestanley has at least 2 more gameshows they could lose there linceses.
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10-14-03, 06:04 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
No, thats not a loophole if the contract said:

"There is no guarantee that you will win any money"

Yes, they rigged the game show, but, since it says that there is no guarantee he will win any money, it would take more than "the show was rigged" to pull off that loophole

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10-14-03, 06:12 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
he is guearntead atleast 10,000 if you look at the link about how they recruted him in it said 10,000 with a chance at 100,000 in that fake show so if they don't pay him atleast that they are in real trouble did you miss that
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10-14-03, 06:19 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
So then, it probably said "There is no guarantee that you will win more money than the said $10,000"
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10-14-03, 06:20 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
While the producers haven't spoiled the ending, they've said more than once that 'Matt had the time of his life.' For some reason I tend to think this doesn't refer just to the days he was being duped and that he gets compensated in the end. I doubt 10 days of 'fun competition' followed by humiliation and no prize money would meet anyone's standard for the time of their life!

To clarify, I don't think he will (and technically can't) actually 'win' the prize money. The only money he'll get is what they decide to give him. Even if they let him 'win', is he really beating the competition? No, it's the decision of the puppetmasters.

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10-14-03, 06:34 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
LAST EDITED ON 10-14-03 AT 06:36 PM (EST)

>While the producers haven't spoiled the
>ending, they've said more than
>once that 'Matt had the
>time of his life.' For
>some reason I tend to
>think this doesn't refer just
>to the days he was
>being duped and that he
>gets compensated in the end.
>I doubt 10 days of
>'fun competition' followed by humiliation
>and no prize money would
>meet anyone's standard for the
>time of their life!
>
>To clarify, I don't think he
>will (and technically can't) actually
>'win' the prize money. The
>only money he'll get is
>what they decide to give
>him. Even if they let
>him 'win', is he really
>beating the competition? No, it's
>the decision of the puppetmasters.
>
>
>jimbo

yea and if they humilate and leave him no money they will be finished in the tv bussness,besides tv guide says he gets a 6
figure paycheck plus prizes and i think one of the prizes will be a contract on one of there other tv shows.

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10-14-03, 06:38 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
No, they wont be finished, the show has gotten a lot of ratings..

You are forgetting we live in a society that tends to become sadistic, yes people will feel bad for Matt if he doesn't get anything. You did say the link said he DOES get 10K, thats still a lot of money. And its not 6 figure, its 5 figure, someone had pointed that out in a previous board.

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10-14-03, 06:56 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
they are getting ratings of less then 2.0 there not even getting top 15 in weekly cable ratings thats not good for all the publicity spike is giveng it. i mean the ratings are ok. i beleave tv guide over one time poster i think they gave him 10,000 after they told him and they will give him the rest on the 28
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10-14-03, 06:37 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
I doubt Stone Stanley has a FCC license for anything. They aren't a broadcaster. They're a content provider.

Of course, it's all academic anyway since the Quiz Show laws are there to protect the public, not the participants. if the viewers are made aware that the show is rigged, they are perfectly in compliance with the law. If this had been presented as a real game show and we were to later find out that all the particpants but one were actors, it would be a pretty clear violation.

But law, as written and signed into law by President Eisenhower, states that it is illegal to broadcast any game with intent to deceive the audience.

Deceiving a participant of the show would not apply. The best that could be done would be a private suit for fraud (Matt was offered a chance to win $100,000, but the contest was rigged, so if he doesn't win, that chance never really existed) if Matt does not end up leaving with the money (if he gets the $100,000, he has no damages).

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10-14-03, 08:02 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
So what happens when the profusely convoluted contract verbage completely contradicts the verbal actions and the physical actions of the cast and crew?

Stone Stanley needs to save his ass and the collective asses of his associates, so it's in his best interest to give Matt at least $100k.

By and large, I believe that the viewers want Matt to win money at the very least, and if he doesn't, they risk a lot more than just alienating the audience. IMHO.

"Ream them up the assetts Matt" - Guppin

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10-14-03, 08:15 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Joe Schmo Doesn't Win the $100,000"
For all we know, the contract expressly stated that the show was rigged. You can't make judgments on the contract without knowing what's in the contract. It's pure guesswork.

But even if it were in the contract that the show was rigged, he'd still have a good case for fraud because they offered a chance to win $100,000. If there never really was a chance, it was potentially a fraudulent inducement telling him so.

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10-14-03, 09:21 PM (EST)
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16. "Case for fraud"
Even if the contract expressly stated that the show was rigged, I'm quite certain, amidst all this speculation, that Matt wouldn't have agreed to participate just to be humiliated and leave empty handed just for the sake of "having the time of his life on the show."

Granted, Matt is perceived as gullible, but I don't thinks he's THAT stupid.

So if you wrote the contract, and you wanted to phrase it in such a way so as to deceive Matt into participating, how would you put: The show is rigged and you're not going to win 100k no matter what, and you are here merely as a bogus participant but you don't know that yet. - so as to cover your ass as a producer/network yet still pull one over on Matt in the process.

If you're going to be that vague or general in the contract, you are also going to be that vague and generalized in court, and the courts want specific facts leading up to the way that some of these reality shows are raping their contestants.

"I see Matt doing something on Court TV" - Guppin

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