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Lumster 179 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-09-03, 00:50 AM (EST) "How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" I'm thinking every actor there has a purpose to further the show's dramatic element. However, how do they really decide which actors to vote out? Do they vote off the ones who screw up the most? Or the ones most boring to watch? Or the ones Matt doesn't really have a "connection" with. Or ones that don't make interesting TV? Just curious.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... dolly19 09-09-03 1  RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Bebo 09-09-03 2  RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... pnoeric 09-10-03 3    RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Lumster 09-10-03 4        RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Zume 09-10-03 5            RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... CantStandToLook 09-10-03 6                RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Guppin1234 09-11-03 11                RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Lumster 09-12-03 13                Right there with you CSTL RebelYell 09-12-03 15            RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... AZ_Leo 09-10-03 7                RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... pnoeric 09-10-03 8                    RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Zume 09-10-03 9                    RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Guppin1234 09-11-03 12        RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Bebo 09-10-03 10            RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... Lumster 09-12-03 14            RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... AZ_Leo 09-12-03 16                RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors... pnoeric 09-12-03 17

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dolly19 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-09-03, 02:20 PM (EST) 1. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" I don't think that the actors decide who gets voted off, though I'm sure it does come as a surprise to them when they are.....that's way too much info for producers to give them....It seems as though the producers know who the good ones are and who are "working" and keep those till the end.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Bebo 20880 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-09-03, 02:25 PM (EST) 2. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" The writers script out who goes and when. It's just like the games, where they decide who will be the winners and losers (except when Matt doesn't do what's expected, in which case they have to improvise a bit). But even that game had the planned outcome - the writers had chosen Hutch to win the immunity. Life is a game where we make up the rules as we go along.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

pnoeric 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-10-03, 00:48 AM (EST) 3. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" LAST EDITED ON 09-10-03 AT 00:57 AM (EST) folks, this show is 100% SCRIPTED-- except for when Matt throws a wrench in things, and they have to quickly scramble to fix it, the overall story points are going to be hit AS PLANNED. I promise you, when they hired the actress that plays Gina, they told her: "you are going to be the first person voted out, and here is the speech you're going to give when it happens." etc. really. there's a script. the whole thing is planned, beginning to end. it's just designed around Matt so he stays in play the whole time. so to answer about which characters go: it's up to the writing team, who are working off an overall outline for the show's run that was probably worked out even before casting began... -- http://ericmueller.org   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lumster 179 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-10-03, 02:52 AM (EST) 4. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" I'm not quite sure I agree with that. It's relatively easy to write a script for a fictional show but this is a reality show with only one real person. I don't think the writers have this all written from beginning to end, including who stays and who goes. I agree with the person that said they wait and see where the characters go with Matt. If they seem to bond with him or create "good TV moments", I'm inclined to say they keep them on longer. The actors serve to advance the producers cruel joke. I think the actors don't know when their turn is to go but in the event they do, have a speech or act planned - in order to keep things more realistic.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Zume 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-10-03, 09:55 AM (EST) 5. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" yep, I would say that its all planned... but they are ready to make changes on the fly. I'd be certain that "the sceamer" knew that she was going out first. I'd bet that they keep "the buddy" on till about 4th from the end. "Hutch" can't last too long cos it just won't be beleivable if he wins immunity every time.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-10-03, 11:10 AM (EST) 6. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" I think it would have given the show a very interesting turn if they simply booted whoever Matt voted for each week. He might not catch on the first week or two but by week three he would have to see a pattern and maybe start to think that people were seeing him as some sort of leader and following him. It would be intersting to see how his attitude and thoughts changed as he came to believe that he was the big dogg. I mean the show is twisted already right?? How funny would it have been for him to think Gina was going cause everyone hated her and then Molly get the boot maybe even by the narrowest of margins with his vote being the deciding vote. Maybe I've been thinking about this too much   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Guppin1234 909 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 09-11-03, 00:08 AM (EST) 11. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" It may be that whomever Matt forms an alliance with gets the boot thus making him like the kiss of death on the show which in turn would also give him a royal mind F**K!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lumster 179 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-12-03, 02:19 AM (EST) 13. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" >I think it would have given >the show a very interesting >turn if they simply booted >whoever Matt voted for each >week. He might not catch >on the first week or >two but by week three >he would have to see >a pattern and maybe start >to think that people were >seeing him as some sort >of leader and following him. >It would be intersting to >see how his attitude and >thoughts changed as he came >to believe that he was >the big dogg. I mean >the show is twisted already >right?? How funny would it >have been for him to >think Gina was going cause >everyone hated her and then >Molly get the boot maybe >even by the narrowest of >margins with his vote being >the deciding vote. > >Maybe I've been thinking about this >too much I actually thought that was how they were going to do it. Problem is, no one really knew he was going to vote for Molly first for example. This would be unbelievable through the eyes of everyone else because they had no reason to vote for her. They planned for Gina to go that episode and hence, had to place that list under her bed to make everyone hate her and want to vote for her. Matt didn't because he thought they were alliances.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RebelYell 152 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-12-03, 02:31 AM (EST) 15. "Right there with you CSTL" I've thought the same thing about basing the elimination on who Matt wants off the show or maybe who he is allied with ... but it takes away from some of the plot possibilities if they do that. What if Matt's indicator pointed to Hutch this week and they have big plans for Hatch, er, Hutch to take the game all the way to the end? In that case, they really can't do that. But I sure like the idea. Just don't think these writers are really all that talented. And isn't it obvious to everyone that Gina was gone and knew she was going? As badly as she did on her going-away speech, it was hardly extemporaneous. Exhausting, maybe.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AZ_Leo 3526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 09-10-03, 12:10 PM (EST) 7. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" Hutch should last longer then you may expect. A standard plot point in most of these shows is when the total jerk you think will be voted out the minute everyone has a chance is saved because someone else becomes even more of a jerk for that week. I don't know if they've discussed working in the whole jury idea where the booted decide who stays. That's also fairly standard so that should come up at some point. That allows for the jerk to be carried along even further on the assumption that no one will vote for him. There are many ways to keep the drama provided by Hutch without him winning immunity.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

pnoeric 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-10-03, 12:59 PM (EST) 8. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" FWIW the episode previews on SpikeTV (posted about in a diff thread) talk about characters doing certain things each week, so they'd have to keep those characters on the show to hit the plot points... it's completely scripted -- Eric, former reality TV crewmember http://ericmueller.org   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Zume 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-10-03, 02:33 PM (EST) 9. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" Right, because its being filmed live each week and they don't have the whole series in the can already.... yep, just like the NFL.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Guppin1234 909 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 09-11-03, 00:12 AM (EST) 12. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" Not scripted but partially set up. They can only set the players in up situations, but they can't tell them right at that moment how to react or what to say but only to keep in character. They can't even remember their own pseudo-bios let alone scripted lines. Even if lines were fed to them via an ear piece, every reply would be too delayed and even Matt would catch on then.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Bebo 20880 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-10-03, 05:26 PM (EST) 10. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" >I'm not quite sure I agree with that. Agree or not, per an article in "Variety", there is a staff of writers who put together story boards for the entire show. While they can't predict entirely what Matt will or won't do, they can control the outcome of the games and the "voting". Look back at the first episode. Matt was the only one who really voted. The others wrote things like "The Hutch has only one testicle", "Reality show my ass", and "He thinks it's real". Life is a game where we make up the rules as we go along.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Lumster 179 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-12-03, 02:24 AM (EST) 14. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" >>I'm not quite sure I agree with that. > >Agree or not, per an article >in "Variety", there is a >staff of writers who put >together story boards for the >entire show. While they >can't predict entirely what Matt >will or won't do, they >can control the outcome of >the games and the "voting". > > >Look back at the first episode. > Matt was the only >one who really voted. >The others wrote things like >"The Hutch has only one >testicle", "Reality show my ass", >and "He thinks it's real". I know that the actors don't vote. In fact, they do know who will be voted out by the end of the show because that's what the script calls for. The part I didn't agree with was the person who said that they have each and every episode written already with who they want voted out on each of these episodes.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AZ_Leo 3526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 09-12-03, 10:43 AM (EST) 16. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" I do hope they allowed for changes in the script as the dynamics in the house developed. Matt may have bonded with one of the other characters in a way they hadn't forseen but that could have provided an interesting storyline.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

pnoeric 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-12-03, 01:25 PM (EST) 17. "RE: How Do They Decide Which Actors To Vote Out?" absolutely. when I asserted the show is "scripted," it's probalby more accurate to say that the scripts have the major beats for the script, but I would hope the actor's lines aren't scripted, that would just seem too fake, I'm sure. clearly they're giving the actors some leeway to help create their characters, which is lovely. it's really a bunch of improving, sort of, within bounds that are set by the writers. I just wish the improving was a little better-- and who's to say they can't do rewrites on the fly? but I am certain they have a plan right now for who will be booted on each episode. it's sort of like writing a soap opera, with one person that never gets a copy of the scripts! E -- Eric, former reality TV crewmember http://ericmueller.org   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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