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"Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
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"Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
When we last left the hamsters on TV, they were on surfboards competing for the HoH. Monet had walked the plank 7-2, and we already know that there won't be a Have/Have Not competition this week: Rachel as outgoing HoH, and the first 5 to fall from the Hoh competition will be the Haves. Out of the last 5, only the HoH will avoid the Have Not room and consequences...

Can things get any better? Probably not.

Can things get any worse? Practically guaranteed...

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Attack Of The Reordered Confessiona... Estee 07-25-10 1
 RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... Estee 07-25-10 2
 Meet Kathy Ripley. Estee 07-25-10 3
   RE: Meet Kathy Ripley. michel 07-25-10 9
       RE: Meet Kathy Ripley. Loree 07-26-10 12
 Matt settles into Perma-Smirk. Estee 07-25-10 4
 The rain in Spain Estee 07-25-10 5
   RE: The rain in Spain michel 07-25-10 10
 Matt begins to outsmart himself. Estee 07-25-10 6
   RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself... michel 07-25-10 11
   RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself... kingfish 07-26-10 13
       RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself... jbug 07-26-10 14
           RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself... suzzee 07-27-10 15
               RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself... jbug 07-27-10 17
 Nominated: Andrew & Kathy. Estee 07-25-10 7
   RE: Nominated: Andrew & Kathy. LFJ 07-25-10 8
       RE: Nominated: Andrew & Kathy. suzzee 07-27-10 16
           RE: Nominated: Andrew & Kathy. LFJ 07-27-10 18
 Veto Night. Estee 07-28-10 19
 Convictions. Estee 07-28-10 20
 Oh, Lane. Estee 07-28-10 21
 All together now... Estee 07-28-10 22
 Lane owns a machine gun. Estee 07-28-10 23
   RE: Lane owns a machine gun. Snidget 07-28-10 25
 Veto competition. Estee 07-28-10 24
   RE: Veto competition. michel 07-28-10 29
 RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... Estee 07-28-10 26
 RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... Loree 07-28-10 27
   RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... michel 07-28-10 30
       Oh... Estee 07-29-10 32
           RE: Oh... michel 07-29-10 33
               RE: Oh... Estee 07-29-10 35
 The Hail Esther play. Estee 07-28-10 28
   RE: The Hail Esther play. michel 07-28-10 31
   RE: The Hail Esther play. jbug 07-29-10 34
 Andrew's familiar block strategy. Estee 07-29-10 36
   RE: Andrew's familiar block strateg... vince3 07-29-10 37
   RE: Andrew's familiar block strateg... Estee 07-29-10 55
 Recap. Estee 07-29-10 38
   In case you missed it: Estee 07-29-10 39
 Hey, LeBron! Estee 07-29-10 40
 They generally call it 'a mess'. Estee 07-29-10 41
 Matt's spouse speaks on The Lie. Estee 07-29-10 42
 Da votes: vince3 07-29-10 43
   RE: Da votes: vince3 07-29-10 46
 Andrew's block speech. Estee 07-29-10 44
 About Matt's HoHterview. Estee 07-29-10 45
 RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... vince3 07-29-10 47
   RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... Estee 07-29-10 49
       RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... michel 07-29-10 53
 Julie asks a good question. Estee 07-29-10 48
 HoH Competition vince3 07-29-10 50
   RE: HoH Competition Estee 07-29-10 52
       RE: HoH Competition michel 07-29-10 54
           RE: HoH Competition Estee 07-29-10 57
 RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... Estee 07-29-10 51
   RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... michel 07-29-10 56
       RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... Estee 07-29-10 58
           RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: En... michel 07-29-10 59
 Aftermath starts early. Estee 07-29-10 60
   RE: Aftermath starts early. michel 07-29-10 61
       RE: Aftermath starts early. Estee 07-29-10 62
           RE: Aftermath starts early. vince3 07-29-10 63
               RE: Aftermath starts early. michel 07-29-10 64
                   RE: Aftermath starts early. vince3 07-29-10 65
                       RE: Aftermath starts early. Estee 07-29-10 66
                       RE: Aftermath starts early. Wacko Jacko 07-29-10 67

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07-25-10, 08:17 PM (EST)
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1. "Attack Of The Reordered Confessionals."
Credibility: Destroyed.

(Again.)

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07-25-10, 08:23 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
Lane on Matt's victory: 'I want to punch you in the face, but in a good way!'
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07-25-10, 08:24 PM (EST)
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3. "Meet Kathy Ripley."
She claims to have been throwing competitions.

Believe it -- or not.

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07-25-10, 09:21 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Meet Kathy Ripley."
She also claims that she is playing this game hard.
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07-26-10, 00:29 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Meet Kathy Ripley."
Well Kathy has spent more time in the HOH room than any of the HOHs.
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07-25-10, 08:26 PM (EST)
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4. "Matt settles into Perma-Smirk."
And it's not as if he had more than one facial expression before this.
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07-25-10, 08:37 PM (EST)
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5. "The rain in Spain"
falls mainly on Enzo's brain.

With some splashback to Matt. The Genius is going into DR revenge mode. Sure, everyone wants Rachel & Brendon out -- but Kathy voted to evict him! Kathy must pay! And she must do so before her awesome challenge forceness manifests!

Yes, he claims he's watched the show.

Meanwhile, the HoH letter received makes everyone feel really sorry about Matt's wife and her illness. Especially the foundation researching a cure for the very real disease she doesn't have, because they can only ride this train for another month.

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07-25-10, 09:23 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: The rain in Spain"
Yes, even Andrew, the doctor who had me thinking the illness was invented, now believes Matt. Has no one seen Pearl Islands?
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07-25-10, 08:49 PM (EST)
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6. "Matt begins to outsmart himself."
Because he's so intelligent, he can't even work out what he's doing.

And meanwhile, who's figured out how the show thinks? Enzo. 'Octopus and Oreo cookies'... Well, he's close. It's not as if Endemol would ever pay for a branded product.

Lane attempts to roleplay with his horses. Roll a d20 to see where the first kick lands.

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11. "RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself."
Lame did get more airtime on this show than in the first 2 weeks but it didn't necessarily make him look better! I wonder if his horses and cows also do role play and try to figure what he's thinking. It must not be too hard.
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13. "RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself."
Yeah, that had me rolling. Roll playing with cows?

There's only about three thoughts that a cow has (eat, poop, and sex), and one of those is pretty much autonomic.

I guess that fits Lane pretty well, though, and why he's my pick to win this thing. As long as his plops don't land on the rug.

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14. "RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself."
Lane is hoping for a FARM HoH challenge.
Maybe cow chip throwing?
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15. "RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself."
Cow tipping?

Barnyard Romances?


Always listen to the puppet

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17. "RE: Matt begins to outsmart himself."
Being that they're in CA, (right?)
I doubt the PETA people would let them tip cows....
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7. "Nominated: Andrew & Kathy."
And now: can Matt use all the power of his mighty brain to find a back door? Because if this backfires on him, he'll need something he can escape through...
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8. "RE: Nominated: Andrew & Kathy."
LAST EDITED ON 07-25-10 AT 09:16 PM (EST)

I hope Andrew finds a way to blow Matt's ego into atomic sized particles. It would be great to watch a narcicist decompensate. With an ego that size, there could be a mushroom cloud over the house, and vapor in L.A. for weeks to come.

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16. "RE: Nominated: Andrew & Kathy."
It's LA who'd notice.


Always listen to the puppet


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18. "RE: Nominated: Andrew & Kathy."
What was up on BB After Dark last night - about 1:00am, when Kathy was lying on top of Kristen ?? is that her name? The one with Hayden? They were on a bed, and whispering. Kathy was literally lying on top of Kristen and kissing her. I could not make out what they were saying, but it looked like a segment from The Real L Word. It was outre, even for BB, to say the least.
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07-28-10, 07:24 PM (EST)
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19. "Veto Night."
Fans of Matt and his Genius should know he's already planned a way around the veto. He's going to hammer it out until it looks like a peace sign, and then everyone will be too afraid to touch it.

It's a Plan.

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20. "Convictions."
Matt is convinced that Kathy voted for him as a means of announcing her targeting. Also that he's a Genius.

Andrew is convinced that Rachel knows the kosher dietary laws by heart and breaks them only to make sure he can't have iced tea.

The Meow2 is convinced this is an opportunity to backdoor the showmance, everything goes their way, and nothing could possibly go wrong.

The smirk thread is convinced it'll be seeing some traffic tomorrow.

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21. "Oh, Lane."
'Gimme some Pop Rocks!'

'You have to clone yourself and ally with yourself.' (Worked really well for the twins.)

'I didn't know Jewish guys wore ninja outfits when they prayed.'

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22. "All together now..."
'So much for that plan.'

Both Brendon and Rachel are drawn to play for Veto. (Final player: Lane.) The Meow2 go into a moaning fit about how nothing ever works out for them. Andrew is convinced God hates him. Amber drops by just to agree with Andrew. Kathy feels she actually has to win, which might mean -- effort! And Andrew is so upset, he cleans the entire cage, including parts which people were using at the time.

But gosh, it's not as if the showmance is going to win Veto or anything, right? They can't win. Because they're up against a Genius.

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07-28-10, 08:39 PM (EST)
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23. "Lane owns a machine gun."
Because turtles have armor.
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07-28-10, 08:42 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Lane owns a machine gun."
Jose was called a wise tortoise. Can Lane's gun be used on another network?
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07-28-10, 08:41 PM (EST)
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24. "Veto competition."
The return of the estimate stay/fold game, only with a mystic theme for the items being counted and Enzo in a genie outfit, which might have been remotely tolerable if he'd never talked.

First move: Lane goes out.
Second move: Matt (who as a Genius, is not allowed to count) goes out.

Meow2 doing well.

So Kathy goes out, some staying, some folding, Brendon and Andrew with two points of the required three apiece -- well, who do you think is going to win? After all, counting is Science!

Oh, poor Genius. His smirk may need a whole two minutes to recover.

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07-28-10, 09:29 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Veto competition."
Matt got smacked in the smirk.
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26. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
Andrew on Matt: 'Dude, stop trying to help me! Every time you help, I lose another pint of blood!'

Brendon on power: 'Brenchel forever! We rock! We rule! We look good in these outfits!'

Matt on Matt: 'It's Acme's fault!'

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27. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
Matt might think he is the brains of this Brigade. But he is losing their confidence in his brains.
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30. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
You have to admit that the 1 brain did a lot of work having to think for 4 jerks.
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32. "Oh..."
...so that's one mind thinking as one!
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33. "RE: Oh..."
or one thinking as none...

I remember that Survivor quote but who said it again? Galu's Eric?

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35. "RE: Oh..."
My first instinct said it was Charlie from Gabon, but it would be very easy to be wrong.
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07-28-10, 08:59 PM (EST)
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28. "The Hail Esther play."
Andrew uses Veto to throw this bomb: openly blame Brenchel for his situation, declare he's after them, and ask for the Veto to be used on him. He succeeds in three things: confusing Britney, angering Rachel (but not Brendon, who was in on it), and convincing the rest of the house that he's so deep in Brenchel's pocket, he's sprinkling lint in his slop.

Kathy may want to start unpacking now.

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31. "RE: The Hail Esther play."
Why didn't he say something like: "If you want a challenge, you'll use the veto on me but I think you're too afraid to do it." At least it would have made sense.
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34. "RE: The Hail Esther play."
That speech was about as confusing as the toast given by Frank's dad on the Bach
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36. "Andrew's familiar block strategy."
'Dig a hole, dig a hole, dig a hole...'

Just watch. Any minute now, he'll be ramming his face into the dirt.

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37. "RE: Andrew's familiar block strategy."
He's already got the 'random shouting of phrases' down pat....
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55. "RE: Andrew's familiar block strategy."
In retrospect, this may have been the understatement of the year.
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38. "Recap."
Originally, Lane wanted to punch Matt in the face in a good way.

Currently, Lane wants to punch Matt in the face in a Monet way.

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39. "In case you missed it:"
Veto Speech Of The Stupid.
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40. "Hey, LeBron!"
Andrew's taking his talents to South Beach!
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41. "They generally call it 'a mess'."
Rachel, who wasn't in on the plan, reacts to Andrew's speech honestly: with shock. The Smirk, who feels she was in on it thanks to his Genius, decides it was a set play because her reaction was too fake.

Kathy decides to one-up Matt. 'His wife has something? I'm going to get something!' Namely, leukemia, a potential side effect of her chemotherapy. (This may be possible. I don't know enough about her procedure to say.)

Andrew is told his speech didn't work. He's surprised. Wasn't he the Best Actor Ever?

Kristen talks to Kathy. Kathy talks to Kristen. Andrew gets mad about this. Screaming fight follows. Andrew wants to know why no one talks to him. Kristen feels it's because he talks to no one. More screaming follows, which does not qualify as 'talking'.

The Meow2 wonder if it would be more fun to keep Andrew just to see if this happens again.

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42. "Matt's spouse speaks on The Lie."
She's worried, but she feels she has to support him in her letters or risk his stay in the cage. Beyond that, it was just a substandard Back Home segment.

Julie gives Enzo a little speech test, pronounces him Hungarian, and gives the hamsters a special reward: no slop this week.

And coming up: the return of Stabo! (The pantry will be locked! The food will be worse than slop! Grodner will make this work if she has to destroy the entire season to do it! Again!)

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43. "Da votes:"
Andrew's last chance speech outs the Hayden/Kristen showmance, among other things...

Kristen VTE Andrew
Rachel VTE Andrew
Britney VTE Andrew

Everyone is still recovering from the bombs Andrew dropped at his last plea...

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46. "RE: Da votes:"
Enzo VTE Andrew
Brendon VTE Andrew (I think that's his second kill shot...)
Lane VTE Andrew
Hayden VTE Andrew
Ragan VTE (and institutionalize...) Andrew

Break out the broom! Andrew gets swept out 8-0.

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44. "Andrew's block speech."
...what the bloody hell was that?

Other than 'game suicide'. I think we all figured that part out. Except for Andrew. Given his speech history, he may have launched into that little spiel thinking it was going to save him. Leave no truth untold, rumor unreported, or bridge unburned...

The Britney/Rachel meeting in the DR hallway said it all.

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45. "About Matt's HoHterview."
'I am so intelligent, you cannot possibly understand how my seeming mistakes this week set me up to win the game. Give me the money now. Thank you and good night. *smirk*'
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47. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
I think we can rule Andrew out for Revive-A-Hamster, since Chenbot told Andrew that the disease that Matt claims his wife has is real but she doesn't really have it.... That info could be used as blackmail material... just like the 'secret' showmance could've been....
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49. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
Very classy farewell from Hayden, BTW -- both in recording and live. After that speech, I was surprised to see Andrew get as many handshakes as he did. (No idea what he passed to Rachel on the way out.)
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53. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
I was impressed by Hayden myself.

What meltdown for Andrew! At least, he forced Kristen out of her shell. Maybe we'll see some life from her now but it may be too litlle too late if Rachel nominates her.

Haven't they learned yet that, this season, everyone votes on the one that doesn't handle being on the block too well. Strange, for me, those people would be good to keep around and wait until they meltdown under the end-game pressure.

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48. "Julie asks a good question."
It had to happen eventually... The question: why didn't Andrew use his knowledge of the Hayden/Kristen connection to blackmail them for votes? Answer: he didn't think of it.

Very weird goodbye message from Rachel. So now Andrew is coming between her and her man? Did anyone in this house pass the psych test?

And Andrew now has information which will keep him out of the cage: Julie told him the truth about Matt's Disease Of The Week. So while he may enter sequester with the other two, I doubt we'll see him return.

He's arguably better off that way.

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50. "HoH Competition"
Big Brother Knockout

Facts about the competitions so far, buzz-in to answer. Get it right to KO your opponent and then pick the next two players

Hayden/Britney: Stay/Fold. Hayden picks POV and is right
Brendon/Rachel: Crawl through caramel pool: Rachel correctly picks H/HN
Kristen/Hayden: BB Mustard. HoH is right for Kristen
Kathy/Rachel: Wall and tape. Kathy picks POV and is wrong.
Kristen/Enzo: Drop briefcase. Kristen is right with the POV.
Rachel/Ragan: Majority. Rachel is still alive with HoH
Kristen/Lane: Spell longest word. Lane is right with the POV.
Lane/Rachel: Flying above giant grill. HoH is right, Rachel is our first repeat HoH!

Pandora's Box returns, and a new Saboteur could be released via America's Choice. New Saboteur offer: Survive 2 weeks for $20k.

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52. "RE: HoH Competition"
Other than 'can this show get any cheaper?', the question becomes '20k -- and then what?' Remember, the original Stabo wasn't allowed to win the half-million -- fate after completing their term unknown, but the jackpot was off the table. Would anyone here trade their chance for twenty thousand at this stage of the game?

And if it's Pandora's Box, what's the choice? Revive-A-Hamster or get a brand new Stabo?

Too many questions -- and with this show, any answer at all is too much to hope for.

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54. "RE: HoH Competition"
Jacob has the answers!
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57. "RE: HoH Competition"
Like he ever told anyone what they were.
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51. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
You had to know that Brendon & Rachel would be faced off against each other as soon as possible, with the survivor put back up until they dropped. There's just one problem with this strategy: sometimes the target doesn't fall down on cue...

Welcome to Week Four: Things That Get Between Rachel And Her Man. (Better hope that doesn't mean you.)

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56. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
Rachel had a good strategy in the POV where she covered Monet's bid. She knew that she had to do the opposite of Brendon in the "Stay/Fold" game and now she had all the answers. Not bad for a bimbo. Janelle v2.0?
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58. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
Rachel is not a bimbo. She's emotionally unbalanced, socially inept, potential stalker material, and frequently clueless enough to challenge Alicia Silverstone. But she's not a bimbo.

At this point, you might actually get a few bets on 'nerd'.

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59. "RE: Big Brother 12 ECST Week 3: Endure Surf for HoH"
Bimbo was probably the first impression she made on the house though.
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60. "Aftermath starts early."
It sounds like Rachel just went off on Kristen in a major way -- but at a time when no one could hear it. (During the post-Andrew argument? The pause between HoH and feeds coming back?) Hayden & Kristen are now convinced they're screwed. From the sound of things, Kristen openly told Rachel she was going after the original showmance. (I think we can consider that F4 dead.)

Rachel and Hayden are currently talking, with Rachel telling Hayden that Kristen made a point of putting her up over and over again in the HoH. She also seems to be trying to get Hayden away from Kristen, presumably because he's not coming between her and her man.

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61. "RE: Aftermath starts early."
Didn't Brendon and Rachel know about Hayden and Kristen?
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62. "RE: Aftermath starts early."
They did. Rachel originally loved the idea.
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63. "RE: Aftermath starts early."
...and almost practically put them together herself during her first HoH reign...
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64. "RE: Aftermath starts early."
So what brought this on then? Did Kristen propose a threesome to Brendon?!!!
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65. "RE: Aftermath starts early."
Every time Kristen got to choose who played in the elimination HoH: Rachel and someone else, the first of which was Brendon...
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66. "RE: Aftermath starts early."
People were also convinced that Andrew was with Brendon and Rachel (mostly by Andrew), so some may have seen his mass outing and bulk grenade tosses as something those two wanted to happen -- and a lot of those explosions landed in Kristen's bunker.
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67. "RE: Aftermath starts early."
Kristen just cost her and probably Hayden the game. To deny the relationship. There is no way now that they can hide it and it will come out and Kristen will be exposed as a liar. Plus you know Hayden will come clean with the Brigade. Kristen is history. Hayden may have to vote her out now...to stay with the brigade.
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