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"Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week"
vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-27-08, 09:48 PM (EST)
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"Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
With Josh and Sharon as the HoH couple leading into the "big surprise" for the evicted couple, which will probably involve the final breaking of this stupid "soulmates" twist and the gameplay getting back to the individual game that they originally thought they were gonna play, we're in for a looong week, especially if you care at all about Allison.......
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-27-08, 11:58 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
I'm thinking the reason that it got removed is because it was pure opinion, and no live feed information............
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02-28-08, 00:40 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
Oh, gotcha. Okay. Sometimes I confuse the "live feed updates" with the "discussion" forum which is a lot of chatting about the LFU's.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-27-08, 11:28 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
HoH room is now open, and the thrill seems to have gone out of the ceremony already.........
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-28-08, 03:40 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
*sigh*Allison tried to bait Josh a little earlier, but he didn't take the bait. Allison/Ryan's partnership has hit rock bottom. In fact, Allison has said if Ryan doesn't start appreciating her, she'll throw all the comps that they're in........... (If they actually do break everyone up next week, it wouldn't be too soon for Ryan.... (although it might be too late, depending on the boomerang twist to set up the house of 9.....)) They're gonna have a heck of a time editing this week, I imagine........(either excess good footage, or excessive swearing in the stuff that they want to air......)
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-28-08, 03:50 AM (EST)
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16. "Dear Allison" |
If you don't need the money from BB, can't stand Josh's antcs or Ryan's lack of support, and really don't want to be in the house anymore, please leave now, so that they can pick someone to take your place and give that person and Ryan a fair chance of surviving the week. (Especially if it turns out to be Jen.....)Just a reminder, these people haven't been seen since entering and then exiting the house......: Jacob Jen Parker Alex Amanda (Neil is non-compus mentis, or something like that..... He won't return and has been removed from the opening credits, like they actually started with 15........)
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-28-08, 10:03 AM (EST)
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17. "Are we having fun yet?" |
The worst part? As far as BB goes with past history and the type of people who've walked out last, you could argue that Joshuah's going for a winner's edit...I'm not sure how well invoking the no-violence rule works if you publicly announce you're going to try and push someone into a violent reaction. The producers probably don't know how to determine 'egregerious provocation' (or spell it), but they just might declare it anyway for the sake of keeping Joshuah's drama in the cage. And as far as that mini-restraining order goes, I'm really tempted to say Allison's gotten her very own Absolute Terror Field... However, none of that changes one very important thing: Joshuah's still a megajerk. Don't try to recast with the hamsters. Just don't.
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02-28-08, 11:13 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
Does anyone know what the cause of the actual argument was? What did Allison do that made Josh go so mental on her?
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Colonel Zoidberg 3645 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-29-08, 11:06 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-29-08 AT 11:06 AM (EST)This season actually makes me miss Boogie. This season actually makes me miss Amber, Jameka, Howie, Marjealous, and the Nerd Herd. Put them in a house over this bunch of no-game hacks. Pass the hydrochloric acid. Please.
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nanrabbit 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-01-08, 10:25 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
I actually caught a commercial that I did not fast forward thru. They were talking about how Ryan's real g/f is gone but he and Allison are getting along. It even has Ryan make a comment about how Allison is his type. If BB is mentioning this I can see them hoping these two will remain so they can exploit this.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-08, 10:43 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
I think the partnership of Ryan/Allison has been damaged beyond repair.......
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nanrabbit 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-01-08, 02:29 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
Remember the famous saying..."Expect the unexpected!"
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03-01-08, 05:24 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
Vince - could you clarify? Do you mean that the antics of Allison are going to get them evicted, or her antics would prevent any relationship developing between them?
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-08, 06:55 PM (EST)
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34. "There's a setup in place." |
We interrupt Joshuah's week-long power trip to bring you the following:The hamsters have been told that sometime soon, they will hear an alarm go off in the house. When this happens -- regardless of when it happens -- they are to get down to the living room and follow the instructions they find there. Oh, and they're supposed to remember that they have to expect the unexpected. Which by definition is impossible, but it's the hamster cage and good luck watching them realize that. In other news, the ever-loyal Matt is now trying to make out with Sharon as a means of power securing. Sharon is aware of his intentions and finds them funny. Natalie has no idea what's going on. Matt is now calling himself America's Playa. Matt believes he now controls Sharon. Matt is extremely stupid. Oh, and speaking of extremely stupid, here's a lightly-transcribed entry from last night's backyard conversation, cleaned up from Jokers: 'Natalie is complaining about Matt. Adam tells her straight up that she's too emotional about him already: Matt doesn't want to deal with it, and neither would he. Natalie claims that she isn't, to which Adam replies "Look how emotional you get when he won't cuddle. Think about how emotional you would be if he gave you some (term for male genitalia)."' Such a great casting tool job. We now return you to Joshuah's reign of error, still in progress.
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03-02-08, 06:27 AM (EST)
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37. "How to spend a Saturday night in THIS BB house" |
Well, you get yourself a Bible, then a stooge to help you carry it and you go around the house exorcising the evil that dwells within it. Then, you and said stooge create magical tin foil hats to wear on your head. Ya know, for the evil.
When you get all tuckered out by all this, someone will be along to distract you. Naked. Oh, except for the sock. Guess the exorcism didn't take. They're all STILL THERE!!
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03-02-08, 12:58 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: How to spend a Saturday night in THIS BB house" |
So anyone going to tackle Big Brother in the Story Competition forum?
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-03-08, 09:19 AM (EST)
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45. "RE: Taking that semi-seriously for no real reason." |
In a way, that over-the-top quality is the central freedom of a fictional BB season. You can go completely into the lunatic fringe and stay there because anything you could come up with is probably something the show's considered, starting with stupid twists, ranging through insane contestants, and wrapping it all up in a theme no reasonable person would have ever considered putting it on the air. No matter how far beyond the borders you think you're venturing, you're still in show territory: you just got there first.Of course, it might help to (unlike this season) have at least one person the viewers/readers could remotely stand. My first thought for a storyline would be 'one or more sane people struggling against the occupants of a madhouse, an uncaring show, an inattentive host, and a sadistic viewership mostly comprised of VFTW posters on their day off.' Imagine a first-person BB from the viewpoint of a puppeteered America's Player Part II, with the show, the other players, and especially America all working to make hir life as hard as possible -- then watching that player make it all work for hir. (Probably to lose at the end at the kicking feet of a jury that wants revenge. The show's funny like that.) But BB does have problems if you translate it to fiction. For starters, the setting is -- limited. Very, very limited. (One of the central themes for a season is likely claustrophobia -- but it can be overplayed.) You have a house and a backyard. Better dress them up well, because you'll be seeing a lot of them. The duration is arguably the biggest problem. Take a season all the way to the end, and you're covering ninety days of action. That's practically an order of magnitude over what's been attempted or accomplished so far: Survivor is thirty-nine days, the Race course typically takes about a month to run and the Mole contestants will likely work around that scale. Ninety days is a lot of material to work with. How much do you show? You can't just base it around the most typical show events: competitions, nominations and votes, the occasional interview and contestant feature segment. Do you use a DAW Chorus of sorts to cover some of the live feed events? How much is seen through the insider viewpoint? No one can manage every hour of every day -- but even if the contestant is in the relative dark, there are times when the readers have to have a more complete idea of house events. And the writer can't go to the guinea pigs feed. The host is her own minor hell. There are going to be competitions which get miscalled, questions that make no sense, interviews somehow attempting to remove insight, and the occasional outright forgetting of which player she's talking to. None of which even remotely stretches the character as she's already established herself. Whee! Oh, and then there's the contestant pool. If you're doing a typical season, you probably have fourteen of them, and there ain't no such thing as tribes: pretty much everyone can be around at any given time, and typically, all of them are talking. Or more likely, screaming. That's a lot of people to track at any given time, especially in group scenes -- some of which will inevitably degrade into shoutfests. As a fictional season, Big Brother has a lot of problems to overcome. As a real series, it arguably has even more.
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03-03-08, 11:45 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: Taking that semi-seriously for no real reason." |
LAST EDITED ON 03-03-08 AT 03:28 PM (EST)First - Complete admiration for the work you and Zoid put in, I don't think I could attempt it and function at work, and the dreams must be maddening. But what you do is so nice and smart that I promise, I will catch up. I love it so far. And I appreciate the insight to what it might take to think thru the doing of a BB series, it's actually kinda intriguing the way you lay it out. Now, what pops into my mind is to do it totally from the vantage point of one hamster, and lay it out as a mystery. Which wouldn't have foreordained conclusion. One would have to get away from the viewpoint of being in the audience watching the show, or reading the book, or even the idea that it was a fictional BB series (which it actually would be), but that it is more of a personal experience. It wouldn't be a mystery in the sense that there is a central crime to solve, but in the sense that one is involved as the crime is being committed around you. Or a series of mini-crimes. Not putting yourself into the mind of each character could make it a more manageable project. Perhaps less entertaining as well. An actual crime (a murder? murders? A subtly serial killer cast in the show?) wrapped in the guise of a BB TV show?....Nah, too Jessica Fletcher. I'm going to come back to this later and see if I made any sense. ETA: I think I just repeated Estee (roughly at least) - Beg pardon. Also for thread jack
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Colonel Zoidberg 3645 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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03-05-08, 07:12 AM (EST)
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78. "RE: Taking that semi-seriously for no real reason." |
I've thought about BB as my next project. However, I've also thought about the fact that there's so much that would go into it, at least the way I write. I could release an episode of All-Stars II every week. TARX takes about two weeks an episode, including the episode itself, the blogs, the news feeds, Elimination Station, and the post-boot interviews. And at the rate I'm writing, the finale is going to take months to write and will have to be released in segments. I can't promise it will be done by Christmas.Then picture what it would take for me to tackle BB. I have a concept for a season of BB (I'll give one spoiler: if it happens, the Chenbot is history and one of those from TARX fills in) but the sheer amount of work involved would be enough to drive me insane. Plus, there's the little PG-13 requirement. I've been able to stay on the PG-13 side of things thanks in part to the magic of bleeps, blurs, and bloggers cleaning up their potty mouths (trust me, there's a good reason bloggers say "hell" and "damn" a lot...it's better than some of the alternatives.) A season of BB takes probably 10-12 weeks, runs at three hours of air time a week compared to one hour, airs nightly on Showtime Too, and has 24/7 live feeds. There's no way in hell one lobster can cover all of that and get it all done before the next President leaves office, especially considering I have a job, a wife, and a dog. It might work as a collaborative project, but then that would probably take longer just to coordinate what happens in the house, and God knows we'd step on each other's toes. I picture it this way - some excerpts from the Live Feeds would be released to RTVW along with the episodes, blogs, and usual rigamarole I give with a season. The After Dark segments would probably be on a three-tiered system - the tame stuff that's pertinent to the story, which would probably be released, then the wild stuff, which would be released via PM, and then the really outrageous stuff that doesn't even begin to touch PG-13, which may have to be sent via e-mail or something but would be written upon request. Even so, with all that going on, it would take fricking forever to write. Survivor was downright doable. TAR is tricky and would help if I could make myself have ADD like Ron (hey, he said it about himself.) BB would be a little like building a model of the Statue of Liberty out of toothpicks and Jell-O. It's doable, but it takes forever, it falls apart at every turn, and it doesn't accomplish anything. Except maybe showing what BB would be like with a real host.
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nanrabbit 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-03-08, 12:00 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Chel & James" |
It would be smart for them to get rid of Sheila and Adumb. Everyone in the house dislikes Josh and Allison so they would be good to go up against in the final.
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nanrabbit 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-03-08, 01:39 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Chel & James" |
Very true Estee!! What was I thinking?? I would love Ryan to stay though since he looks so much like my husband! I am nothing like Allison or Jen (thank goodness!!)
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-03-08, 03:36 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
If that's the case, it'll have to come soon for the current nominees, who are running seriously short on clock -- and given that the next episode typically covers everything through the Veto ceremony, with Wednesday for the eviction, it brings up the question of when they'd show it. If it touches the nominations at all, then it just about has to happen in the middle of the live episode. Otherwise, we're either looking at a very weird Wednesday airing or a total disruption of the normal show schedule.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-03-08, 05:55 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
Post #34. I didn't know it was a siren sound at the time.
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03-03-08, 07:35 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Figures." |
None of them have any idea what the outside world thinks of them. I guess I'm in the minority, but, I don't think Joshuah is nearly as terrible as Allison or Matt. I just don't. At least he's apologized numerous times to & about Amanda. The rest just keep blaming her for things that are happening since she's been out of the house.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-03-08, 07:49 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Figures." |
LAST EDITED ON 03-03-08 AT 07:51 PM (EST)At least he's apologized numerous times to & about Amanda. He continued to get his share of dead father/noose jokes in after the apology (just out of her earshot), and still pulls out the theme every once in a while even with Amanda gone. How we each see the contestants as relating to each other on the Absolute Scum Scale is going to be a matter of personal opinion. I hate Matt for having no visible morals, his complete lack of caring about what he's doing to Natalie, and his arrogance/pride in the prior two. I hate Allison because she never factors in what her little games might do to everyone around her, treats her partner as a chew toy, and feels she's perpetually in the right regardless of the evidence. But as for how much I hate them expressed as absolute rankings... ...well, there's a reason we haven't had any Love Lists this season. There's no one to love. Loathe Lists, while serving the same purpose, just never caught on.
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03-03-08, 09:01 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: Figures." |
For all his douchiness, James has at least had a few redeeming moments on the show, particularly the way he handled the situation with Amanda.
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frisky 11684 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-04-08, 10:34 AM (EST)
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73. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
In case anyone still cares what's happening in the cage:Sharon told Joshuah that Matt is coming on to her as a means of saving himself. They agreed that she should lead him on so that he continues to think he is safe with them. (Don't these idiots know they are only in power for ONE WEEK, and in fact they have NO power once they make their nominations?) Gnat is running around the house "studying." She said she has to start preparing early for HoH comp since it takes her a long time to study. Well, I suppose that's fine. HOWEVER, she's going around telling everyone the things she's noticing that are weird about the house (ie she's discovered lots of things come in eights). She reports her findings to people, and when she leaves the room, they laugh. Sharon and Josh spent a lot of time with Gnat in the HoH room last night and then bashed her incessantly after she left. Joshuah still hates Allison. He is dictating how the votes should go and the hampsters don't like it. He wants it to be a tie so that he can have the satisfaction of evicting Allison himself.
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03-04-08, 12:08 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: Big Brother Live Feeds Week 3: Hell Week" |
I would love it if Adam and Sheila go home instead. No on ehas to listen to Josh. And because he has no shot at HoH then he could very likely go home if he doesn't change very soon.
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03-05-08, 01:51 AM (EST)
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77. "Freak out" |
HGs (Josh, James, Sharron, and Chelsia) freaking out thinking the siren will go off tonight and ruin the chance of getting Ali out of the house.
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