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"Thank god it was only three weeks..."
LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-16-01, 10:38 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
I totally agree Webby. To see the person lose who played the best game coupled that the fact that Gina was brought back totally sucks GOD BLESS AMERICA
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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10-16-01, 10:42 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
You don't think Melissa played the best game?!?! Just because she wasn't as openly manipulative as Michael, doesn't make her a worse game player. She was hands down the best player there and deserved to win.
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deebo 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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10-17-01, 11:22 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
I think Melissa played a very good game.-you can see that Mike invited her into the chi-town alliance. She was perfectly willing to ride along with that, as long as it was beneficial to her. If you watch her body language closely, it looks like she isn't really into the alliance. (I did't think Ralph was either, by the way. Just a means to an end for both of them. As any alliance should be I guess...) I say that she wasn't totally into the alliance because I noticed during the time when she and mike were partnered up, talking about the alliance on their bed, she seemed to show a hint of annoyance. It was also obvious when she "called mike out". I am referring to the time Lisa was making her case to Mike in his room, before she was voted off. Melissa asked Mike something like "I didn't think it was all good. Why don't you want to talk about it now?". That forced Mike's feelings into the open, and he had to say "It's time to vote. There is nothing to talk about now." Or something like that. -while riding that alliance, she had Darin wrapped up. Remember the "I don't know who to trust" speech in Darin's room? -She also had a good relationship with Tomiko. I noticed after the salsa dance, she and darin were very excited for her, and were the first one's to congratulate her. I remember Lisa telling Melissa early on that Tomiko was being voted off, and I remember being surprised at Melissa's reaction. She seemed shocked, and almost angry. That baffled me then, but it made sense later, when she told Ralph that she would save tomiko because she really liked or bonded with her. I also remember a gender jury where it seemed like it was tomiko and melissa vs. toni and andrea. You didn't really hear any verbal exchanges, but it was more body language. Toni and andrea on one side, melissa and tomiko on the other, with a sizeable enough gap between the two groups. -After the infamous and highly anticipated Eye Bugging scene on the beach, Melissa was at least acting like she was on Jeanette's side. She was asking if Jeanette was able to see how Toni was playing her, making her seem sincere and concerned for Jeanette while also taking away from Toni's credibility. I really think that helped influence Jeanette's vote at the end. Now, you had to watch really closely to see that stuff, and make a few deductions or interpolations. It's not like we ever say much bonding between melissa and darin or tomiko or jeanette... but that is why I think she played well. She stayed true enough to herself to seem faily sincere, while working the angles enought to keep herself in the running.
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true 9681 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-16-01, 11:21 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
Well, the only person that actually admitted to playing the game was Michael. I've got nothing against Melissa and Darin, but I don't think the show portrayed them as the couple to "root for". Like SB said, Darin was hardly featured, and Melissa was never actually shown playing the game. It just wasn't at all satisfying to watch, and not because of the cast, but the way the game was set up. There was no "love" on the Love Cruise, and giving the final jury instructions to determine the best real couple, was a joke. Adding a third couple to the finals completely ruined the show. Gina was booted on the first episode, and almost won! All that did, was show how pathetic, bitter, jealous, hateful, and vindictive, Anthony, Toni, Andrea, and Ralph were. ( I didn't add Lisa to this list because I believe she actually had a reason to vote for Gina.) Darin and Melissa won! Whopee! (not) Viewers like to care about the winners, but the way they were edited, whats to care about?
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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10-16-01, 10:48 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
Melissa was able to wield a lot of influence without being so open about it. It was *she* that was able to save Michael, and Tomiko said on her website that Melissa saved her as well. They didn't show her openly plotting, but it was clear she had influence over Darin, Mike, Jeanette, and Tomiko. She and Mike were definitely co-leaders of the post Chicago-4 alliance.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-16-01, 10:56 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
managerr -- that's just my whole point on why this show sucked. If she REALLY did all that stuff, and she REALLY was leader, it would have been nice for the EDITING to give the audience some clue what was going on rather than this lame feeling that someone who flew completely under the radar won. And DARIN received what, maybe 15 minutes of air time in 7 episodes??? ...it's impossible for the viewer to feel much for two people we saw so little about. I'm very sorry about her family situation and all (I was wondering when the patented BMP Tragic Past was going to appear,) and once I saw that I KNEW she was winning, but I can't see how any viewer ended their viewing being satisfied. -SB
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Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-17-01, 03:42 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
Amen to all of the above complaints! The stupid rules and editing ruined this show, which did have potential, and Mike and Jeannette should have been neck and neck with Darin and Melissa and NO Third Couple!!! Arghhh! *Ebug, this show has made me an over-punctuator too!!!!!*
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ItzLisa 3350 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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10-17-01, 09:36 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-17-01 AT 09:40 AM (EST)>Michael was the only reason to watch. He played the best game and got screwed GOD BLESS AMERICA *** Exactly!!! What the hell was up with bringing back Adrian and For Chrissakes GINA????? WTF??? I will very respectfully disagree with our awesome SuperShirll, though - I didn't see Anthony's vote so much as for Adrian as against Melissa. I just felt like every vote placed for Adrian and Gina was a "spite vote" against Darin/Melissa or Michael/Jeanette, ya know? THAT many votes for those two??? I couldn't believe it! Just HOW did Gina and Adrian get that close to winning when they were both barely there? Adrian lasted a few more episodes, but come on!!! And idiot Gina was barely a blip on the radar! Hell, Bob got more face time when he asked if anyone was truly going to change their votes ! I, like most people here, am extremely proud of our Shakes for how he played the game and for his "Fifteen Minutes", LOL!!! But as many of us have stated, he was the ONLY reason we watched! What a horrible piece of crap that show was! The rules kept changing every week, and if they hadn't pulled that ridiculous third couple routine, Michael and Jeanette wouldn't have been left totally and completely holding the bag! Worst frickin' show ever - BUT I LOVE THAT CLOWN!!!!! Edit to add: Let's see a show of hands - how many people here were DYIN' to punch out Toni and Anthony at several given moments in the show???? (*raises BOTH hands!*) ****************************************
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Loree 8182 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-17-01, 02:06 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
Good point! And a secret ballot may have given some of these losers the courage to vote the way they wanted instead of the way they thought the others wanted them to vote. Whatever.... the train wreck is over and we can go back to watching the better reality shows.
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JulieMc 23 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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10-17-01, 07:06 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
i felt so bad for Jeanette and Micheal not getting even one vote I think Ralph should have at least stuck by the clown. And hello, could Gina be any more annoying!! Even Adrian was getting sick of her "We're gonna win, We're gonna win!" chant after a while.
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George Tirebiter 2982 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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10-17-01, 03:42 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
. . . except that three weeks in LC time equalled about fourteen YEARS in actual human misery! I tried to reply to this thread last night, but couldn't articulate what anger and disgust I was feeling. . . Honestly, shakes--WHY did you work so hard to promote this mess?!! Everything about it was horrible--the people, the photography, the editing, the "challenges," even the goddamned prize sucked, given what they had to go through to get it! (And--ahem. . . NO actual cruise? WTF?) You promised that it was so far above what the Survivor whores had done--this was supposed to involve class and beautiful people and worthwhile. . . EVERYTHING. Sorry, Clown--it failed on all counts. Even Mikey came out smelling less like a rose and more like that Christmas tree Charlie Brown took home (BEFORE they camouflaged it)--totally pathetic and not worth a second look. I have felt sorry for him before, but now I can't describe how I feel--it goes far beyond pity. . . This was actually something he was PROUD of! If not for shakes, I would never have paused to watch the first episode--and now I feel the same kind of anger I have when I sit through a movie that's been touted as "the greatest thing ever"--after squirming in my seat for the duration, expecting that they'll pull SOMETHING out of their ass at the last minute to make it all come together and be worthwhile, they completely miss the boat. I HAVE wasted seven hours of my life! And the damned bananas SHOULD have won!!!! ACK! GT
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NightScribe 761 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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10-17-01, 05:12 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Thank god it was only three weeks..." |
<NS stands at her pulpit listening to GT's outraged diatribe> except that three weeks in LC time equalled about fourteen YEARS in actual human misery!
AMEN GT Everything about it was horrible--the people, the photography, the editing, the "challenges," even the goddamned prize sucked. YOU SAID IT SISTER! DON'T HOLD BACK -- TELL US! If not for shakes, I would never have paused to watch the first episode--and now I feel the same kind of anger I have when I sit through a movie that's been touted as "the greatest thing ever"--after squirming in my seat for the duration, expecting that they'll pull SOMETHING out of their ass at the last minute to make it all come together and be worthwhile, they completely miss the boat. I KNOW, I KNOW -- I FEEL SULLIED, ABSOLUTELY TAINTED FOR HAVING WATCHED IT AT ALL. ICK.
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Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-17-01, 06:01 PM (EST)
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26. "Above and beyond the call" |
Not only did GT spend all that time watching it and trying to figure out a rational vote, she was cool enough to MAIL me 2 tapes when I missed the first and penultimate episodes. She even sat and dubbed the first one, bought a mailer, braved the PO. Thanks GT, if not for your Herculean efforts (I hate to go wait in line at the PO, don't most people?), I would have thought I had missed something major! *Happy birthday, GT, Happy birthday GT*
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