The Amazing Race   American Idol   The Apprentice   The Bachelor   The Bachelorette   Big Brother   The Biggest Loser
Dancing with the Stars   So You Think You Can Dance   Survivor   Top Model   The Voice   The X Factor       Reality TV World
   
Reality TV World Message Board Forums
PLEASE NOTE: The Reality TV World Message Boards are filled with desperate attention-seekers pretending to be one big happy PG/PG13-rated family. Don't be fooled. Trying to get everyone to agree with you is like herding cats, but intolerance for other viewpoints is NOT welcome and respect for other posters IS required at all times. Jump in and play, and you'll soon find out how easy it is to fit in, but save your drama for your mama. All members are encouraged to read the complete guidelines. As entertainment critic Roger Ebert once said, "If you disagree with something I write, tell me so, argue with me, correct me--but don't tell me to shut up. That's not the American way."
"Episode 13: Grapes of wrath"
Email this topic to a friend
Printer-friendly version of this topic
Bookmark this topic (Registered users only)
 
Previous Topic | Next Topic 
Conferences Top Chef Forum (Protected)
Original message

mtb002 200 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"

12-03-09, 11:02 AM (EST)
Click to EMail mtb002 Click to send private message to mtb002 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
"Episode 13: Grapes of wrath"
**contains spoilers, don't look if you don't want to know.

The contestants are back, and looking very refreshed. Mike's his usual ornery self, Bryan talks about what a relief it was to see his son, Jennifer's excited to have the gang back together. The most interesting to me is Kevin, who acknowledges that Mikey has been doing some smack talking, and admits he wants to show him up to prove his style.

They meet on a train station platform and correctly surmise that they will be taking a train. Padma (looking radiant I must say) steps off a train with Top Chef Master and Napa guru Michael Chiarello. Quickfire Challenge, pick a grape and make a dish for padma and Michael, have to cook it on the train. Oh, and no pressure, but the winner of the quickfire gets a Prius. The contestants scramble to pick their prep spots and grapes. Kevin's getting nauseous from the motion, Jen wants that car so bad she can taste it, bryan wants to finally win a quickfire, but it's Mikey who pulls it out by using just about every part of the grape.

Elimination challenge, prepare 2 dishes, 1 protein 1 vegetarian 150 portions each made Locovore style from a local farmers market. Kevin and Bryan are excited, as this is what they do in their own restaurants. No seafood for Jen, but she settles on Duck. Mikey likes the fresh eggs. It's obvious Jen is having trouble focusing, but she's pulling some great ideas with they beautiful produce. Kevin is taking a huge risk by braising grass fed beef brisket in only 4 hours. Bryan is is usual solid self.

Judges table, very nitpicky. Jen had too much salt, otherwise great. Mikey's egg was underdone (ewwww) and vegetables were cut too fine. Bryans first dish was a tad undersalted, but overall great. Kevins beef was stringy (duh) but vegetable dish was fantastic. Tonight, the judges decide that too much salt was a greater sin than an undercooked egg, and Jen get the PPYKAG. Bryan wins and looks very relieved. And just for completeness, this means the finale will be Bryan, Mikey and Kevin.

Everyone seemed sad to see Jen go, and I think this is a testament to how strong this season really was. I can't believe how talented these final four were.

Can I ask a question of the more cooking savvy posters? If Kevin had tried to use a pressure cooker to get the beef less stringy, would it have ruined the flavor? It's totally a hypothetical, because I don't think he had access to one, but I'm just wondering what he possibly could have done in that time frame to make grass fed beef less stringy (or toothsome whichever you prefer!)

  Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

  Table of Contents

  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath mindy23 12-03-09 1
   RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath weltek 12-08-09 4
       RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath udg 12-08-09 5
 RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath jbug 12-03-09 2
 RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath anotherkim 12-03-09 3

Lobby | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

Messages in this topic

mindy23 1319 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"

12-03-09, 12:07 PM (EST)
Click to EMail mindy23 Click to send private message to mindy23 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
1. "RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath"
LAST EDITED ON 12-03-09 AT 12:09 PM (EST)

Gosh, I've only cooked in a pressure cooker a few times, so I'm not expert. But on many other cheftestant type shows, a lot of the chefs utilize it, so there must be a very good reason. I would think time constraint would be a BIG one. As far as losing flavor, I don't see how it really would. You're basically cooking with all your spices, etc, just quicker, with a little more steam? Am I right about that? I'm sure someone more adept than I can answer this.

I prefer to cook a lot of my proteins in a crock pot. Which is the opposite, takes way more time. But because it DOES allow the meat to simmer in the juices longer and grab more of the flavors. Plus, it's such an easy, leave-alone-and-go option! Especially for beef or pork, if you are going to BBQ and pull it. It's nice and juicy and not stringy at all.

Sorry I couldn't answer that better.

Anyway, I think Jen was the obvious choice to leave tonight. Overall, she has been the weakest link of the 4. And I'm so glad they figured all that into tonight's finale, part 1.

And I do agree-after some of the childish pranks, and silly escapades we've seen on other episodes, this episode has been very up and up, with the exception of a few incidents with Robin, which were small in comparison to Marcel's almost hair-shaving! These people ARE professional, know their stuff and I, too, would be very pleased to eat in any of their restaurants. I just would never go to Micheal's, because I think he's a big cry-baby!


ETA: I am talking about the final 4, not the group as a whole, when I say I would love to eat their food.

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

weltek 16933 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

12-08-09, 12:18 PM (EST)
Click to EMail weltek Click to send private message to weltek Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
4. "RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath"
I love when we can turn Top Chef into general cooking chatter. So here are my thoughts on your pressure cooker suggestion...

Pressure cookers require a fair amount of liquid, and a person might not want any liquid in what they are cooking. I could see why Kevin wasn't using it for his brisket. With pressure cookers, you are basically quickly boiling the item. Boiling doesn't always make certain meats tender.

And I've found the opposite from you with slow cookers. Some spices and flavorings dissipate when cooked for a long period of time in a slow cooker. I think the meat still has meaty flavor (and it's so useful for cheap, tough cuts of meat) and things like acids help give flavor to meat, but many seasonings (herbs particularly) simply go bland.



-A Tribetastic Creation

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

udg 3038 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"

12-08-09, 09:35 PM (EST)
Click to EMail udg Click to send private message to udg Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
5. "RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath"
I was taught to add spices at the beginning and herbs at the end of cooking in the slow cooker.


Slice n' Dice's Sigpic Chop Shop 2004

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jbug 16685 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

12-03-09, 12:31 PM (EST)
Click to EMail jbug Click to send private message to jbug Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
2. "RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath"
Nice coverage mtb.

Kevin has consistently cooked simply but with detail and perfection. & Michael has constantly talked about Kevin's cooking as being less than his. Then when Colechio (sp?) mentioned that, I laughed. I had wondered how much of the film tapes the judges were seeing before judging; now it's pretty evident they're watching.

Yes, Jen was the one to go; tho I wish it had been Michael. I really didn't want to see both brothers in the finale.

I hope Kevin wins.


  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

anotherkim 14419 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"

12-03-09, 03:09 PM (EST)
Click to EMail anotherkim Click to send private message to anotherkim Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
3. "RE: Episode 13: Grapes of wrath"

I am sooooooooo bored with this season. I don't like any of them like I have past players (Stephanie, Sam, Richard, Italian guy whose name I have forgotten, etc.). They are just BLAND.

That said, I thought it was a good challenge and I really like the quick fire.


Kimmah Says
--if I knew the finale was going to be in Napa, you can bet I'd have come loaded with grape and wine recipes.

  Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top


Lock | Archive | Remove

Lobby | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e - p l a c e h o l d e r t e x t g o e s h e r e -
about this site   •   advertise on this site  •   contact us  •   privacy policy   •