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"Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-13-14 at 11:13 AM
Where's the meat?
What's your meat?
How's the meat?
Up the meat!
To meat or to more meat, that is the question.
You can't beat meat!
American meat!
Meat ball!
Meat patty!
Meat market!
Mince meat!
Pulled meat!
Hung meat!
Hockey pucks!

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/food/2014/03/united_steaks_of_america_map_if_each_state_could_have_only_one_meat_what.html


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"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by starshine on 03-13-14 at 11:51 AM
When I was in the US state of Luxembourg t'was the winter season and their meat seemed to be Boar and Venison. I managed to get food poisoning from some frogs legs

I will put British food up against any other country with the sole exception of our Hamburger steaks which are dry lumps of yuck. Just by Jamaica Court on International Drive in Orlando is (or possibly was) a Friday's Sports Bar where I had the revelatory burger, cooked medium with perfect salad, that it must be ten years since I ate it must just emphasises how good it was.

Like that pizza in Naples or Wood Green, the Coq au Vin in France, or the Borek and Turkish pizza in Rotterdamn

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-13-14 at 08:45 PM
Sorry you got sick. Frog has nothing on turtle.
"Bacon"
Posted by newsomewayne on 03-13-14 at 12:07 PM
We win.

Choke on it, Other 49.

"RE: Bacon"
Posted by Estee on 03-13-14 at 12:33 PM
Nah, we'll just wait the three months it'll take for you to die.
"RE: Bacon"
Posted by newsomewayne on 03-13-14 at 01:33 PM
Admit it, you've been waiting longer than three months.
"RE: Bacon"
Posted by jbug on 03-13-14 at 04:07 PM
nuttin better


"RE: Bacon"
Posted by dabo on 03-13-14 at 08:33 PM
But did you read about the 'Bama Meatloaf? Gonna have to try that one sometime.
"NO WAY"
Posted by Agman2 on 03-13-14 at 04:20 PM
Tofu?.....Californian's don't eat meat? Are you kidding me? Looks like it's time to move!



Alarmingly masterful tribal creation
*I can just see it now: I'd like to order a 2 inch tofu steak

"RE: NO WAY"
Posted by dabo on 03-13-14 at 08:37 PM
LOL. Yeah, California and Hawaii kinda got shafted there.


"RE: NO WAY"
Posted by Agman2 on 03-14-14 at 05:00 PM
*sigh*

*books flight to Texas for steak dinner!

"RE: NO WAY"
Posted by dabo on 03-14-14 at 06:46 PM
Just get a resolution on the next ballot to make shark the official state steak.
"RE: NO WAY"
Posted by Agman2 on 03-14-14 at 07:46 PM
*snort*
"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by kingfish on 03-14-14 at 08:59 AM
This lady knows her meats. I did not know there were that many choices to sort out.

Andouille for Louisiana is a great choice, even though crawfish, shrimp, redfish, alligator, oysters, frog legs, Boudin, and a few others would have also been very apropos, the selection of Andouille shows that this author knows her meats, did excellent field work, and has excellent taste. Andouille may just be the grandest taste delight Louisiana offers. Great state for food and meat in particular, though.

Except for Meatloaf as Alabama's meat? Oh well. She dropped the ball there, Alabama could lay claim to so much more, and better meats. But the BBQ's (even the burnt ends) were taken as was Chicken, the seafoods, most of the other beefs and porks, and chicken fried steak, so Alabama got the leftovers. Actually, leftovers would have been more apropos. I guess Alabamans should be happy that they weren't assigned testicles. I think I would have to write a letter if I lived in one of those states.

Overall, I'd say this lady knows her meats.

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-14-14 at 01:41 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-14 AT 08:52 PM (EST)

What I find hard to believe is that no one, especially down south, got biscuits and sausage gravy. Crazy! If gelatin is technically a meat then gravy is definitely a meat.

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by kingfish on 03-14-14 at 04:22 PM
Good point.

And I gotta say, Gelatin? Gross.

I'm going to assume that when she assigned Meatloaf to Alabama (and seriously, I don't know anyone here that is especially proud of any Alabama's Meatloaf) I'm going to assume she meant Sausage gravy.

There. Fixed that.

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-15-14 at 01:12 PM
We'd probably be allocated Canadian bacon, although I definitely prefer the Tennessee version of bacon as shown. Alberta would be given bison burgers, although there is a Testicle Festival every year where "prairie oysters" (which would be known as Rocky Mountain oysters south of the border) are served up.
"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-15-14 at 09:45 PM
You Canadians are just so secretive about your tourtières.
"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-16-14 at 00:58 AM
That's for Quebec... most of the country wouldn't know what a tourtière is.

Plus, of course, I did kinda introduce tourtière to most of OT a couple of years ago:
http://community.realitytvworld.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/rtvw2/community/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=37290&forum=DCForumID6&archive=yes#2

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-16-14 at 03:21 PM
Okay, let's fill in the map. Quebec is taken care of, and I'll leave Ontario to you.

Alberta -- Ginger Beef
Nova Scotia -- Donair
Manitoba -- Back Bacon (to give the proper name)
Prince Edward Island -- Cowcumber Boats (at least it has cow in the name)
New Brunswick -- Oysters
Newfoundland and Labrador -- Flipper Pie (sorry 'bout that, Flipper)
Saskatchewan -- Rack of Lamb
British Columbia -- Japadogs

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-16-14 at 06:30 PM
Hard to say about Ontario as there are a number of rather distinct regions, but if I had to pin down one particular food, I'd go with roast beef with Yorkshire pudding as it's been around for a couple of centuries dating back to the old British days in southern Ontario and along the St. Lawrence shores.

For the others, going from east to west...

Newfoundland - Moose. 80% of Newfoundland food is fish-based, but you'd find moose burgers or steaks all over. Not sure if cod tongue would qualify as a meat as it's the quintessential Newfie food.

Nova Scotia - absolutely, the donair. It was omnipresent in downtown Halifax in particular during the heyday of the 70s and 80s, but it's still found in most of the city today even as the type of people and tastebuds have changed. More popular along the sparsely-populated Acadian regions of Nova Scotia: the rappie pie.

Prince Edward Island - if we're accepting oysters for New Brunswick, then let's go with P.E.I. mussels for here. PEI really isn't known for any meat in particular as it's almost all fish here for local cuisine.

New Brunswick - sure, oysters work for me.

Quebec - both tourtière and Montreal smoked meat could lay legit claims to being the top Quebecois meat. I'd go for the tourtière, but you'd probably get a sizeable number that would go for the smoked meat as well.

Manitoba - I'd go with bison; it was the primary food hunted by the Métis first nations people before Manitoba became a part of Canada.

Saskatchewan - sausage is the answer here; there's a sausage festival every year where only locally-grown sausages are accepted.

Alberta - Alberta beef.

British Columbia - interesting, never heard of japadogs. I'd move lamb from Saskatchewan to B.C., although more people would say smoked salmon steaks if fish would be accepted for this list.

Nunavut - smoked Arctic char.

Northwest Territories - walrus meat. Beaver and muskrat meats are also popular as well as caribou.

Yukon - caribou roast.

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-17-14 at 11:14 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-17-14 AT 02:21 PM (EST)

I defer to your greater knowledge of your homeland. Rack of Lamb moving to B.C.! The Cat will be happy, I hope.

Japadog was something I came upon during searches, and if you take a look some of their concoctions seem perfectly wretched. Still, how could I not give a nod to people with the audacity to have "Love Meat" on their menu.

Glad you kept the nod to oysters. Finding "meats" for your eastern fisheries was pretty much an exercise in futility (and, yeah, flipper pie has probably gone as extinct as sea turtle soup down in the Keys). Growing up in the midwest I thought oysters were virtually inedible (except in the hands of a cook who really knew how to dress them up). Turned out what is true of the preserved wretched aged things they sent us was absolutely not true of the good fresh stuff they kept for themselves. When I'm an antique retired critter I may have to relocate somewhere I can get ahold of the good fresh stuff.

"Blek!"
Posted by moonbaby on 03-15-14 at 09:55 PM
Hot dogs? Really? I demand a do-over! I thought for sure it would be meatballs with tomato sauce.
"RE: Blek!"
Posted by dabo on 03-15-14 at 10:18 PM
A-okay! Atsa one vote for Meatsaball, no vote for New York Strip.
"RE: Blek!"
Posted by Brownroach on 03-16-14 at 08:04 AM
Seriously. Or prosciutto. No one got prosciutto as their state meat.
"RE: Blek!"
Posted by kidflash212 on 03-16-14 at 09:09 AM
Or at least pastrami. Hot Dogs? No Way.
"NoBleK!"
Posted by foonermints on 03-16-14 at 12:25 PM
Nathan's hot dogs!


Handcrafted by RollDdice
..followed by Hebrew National..
Other dogs are inferior, unless homemade. I don't know about the raccoon meat in Alabama though. Or was that 'Gator?

"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by dabo on 03-16-14 at 03:15 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but the coney dog was born in Detroit.
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by foonermints on 03-16-14 at 03:35 PM
Where is Hobbs when he's needed?
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by Brownroach on 03-16-14 at 11:38 PM
Nathan's hot dogs are kind of a Brooklyn thing. As a Brooklynite, I will consume one or two when I visit Coney Island, but I can attest that there's really nothing stupendous about how they taste. There are better choices for the state as a whole, including moonbaby's and kidflash's choices.
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-17-14 at 05:00 AM
Yeah, I didn't see the big fuss over Nathan's when I had one while visiting NYC - I'd take a grilled dog from a Toronto street vendor over a boiled/steamed Nathan's any time. It's good, but perhaps over-hyped.
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by kidflash212 on 03-17-14 at 12:45 PM
Most Nathan's are grilled. At least the ones in Coney Island. Steamed/boiled dogs are the ones from carts in the city - manufacturer unknown.


Tribe!

"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-17-14 at 04:43 PM
Ah. The one I had wasn't grilled, or didn't seem to be - looked like this:

"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by Brownroach on 03-18-14 at 00:49 AM
They are cooked on a grill but they do almost taste like they're boiled.
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by kingfish on 03-18-14 at 08:35 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-18-14 AT 08:36 AM (EST)

At some point in time I am going to take the Roach up on his offer to buy me a Coney Island Dog (OK, he only suggested that I have one, but obviously the offer to buy was implied, right? Right?). I think I am going to thoroughly enjoy it too, because of the atmosphere I imagine there to be at Coney Island.

Until then, until I can do that comparison, I will be convinced that the best dogs are at a baseball game. Any baseball game. The atmosphere is what makes hot dogs taste good to me.

"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by kidflash212 on 03-18-14 at 08:45 AM
Then obviously, the best place in the world to have a hot dog is at a Brooklyn Cyclones game. On Coney Island, right down the block from the original Nathans. And for a bonus, you can ride the Cyclone.
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by jbug on 03-18-14 at 10:17 AM
I agree and since I have tickets to the Battle of the Birds game on March 28th, I plan to have one then!
That's Cardinals vs Redbirds - yea!
I can't wait! Bring on baseball; bring on spring!


"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by kingfish on 03-18-14 at 10:33 AM
Bring on the dogs!

Have fun, Bug.

"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by Molaholic on 03-19-14 at 01:00 AM
I've enjoyed many a ballpark dog, and I must say that there is no other like a genuine Farmer John Dodger Dog. Lightly slathered with brown mustard, along with a generous helping of relish and onions, it is the perfect meal.

Mucho lurve to tribe 2012

"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by kingfish on 03-19-14 at 08:23 AM
Is that a before or an after picture?
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by Brownroach on 03-18-14 at 10:35 AM
I will happily buy you a Coney Island dog. As kidflash points out, a baseball game can easily be worked into the equation.
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by kingfish on 03-19-14 at 08:18 AM
Bookmarking.
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by foonermints on 03-18-14 at 08:41 AM
Probably "Mystery Wieners" from Louie's Discount Bait and 'Possum Shop.
..and the vendor got the box out of a close-by dumpster? I hope he didn't get stuck with all those dirty used needles!


It's always good to make a good "first impression".

"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by kingfish on 03-18-14 at 10:37 AM
I think West Texas should have its own meat. Fried road-kill armadillo. Served on a bed of fried road-kill possum bits.
"moo"
Posted by dabo on 03-18-14 at 11:27 AM

aka the texas chili dog
"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by Agman2 on 03-18-14 at 11:53 AM
yum
"Boiled street dogs"
Posted by moonbaby on 03-18-14 at 01:28 PM
AKA the Dirty Water Dog-would never NEVER eat one of those. Because that water....EW.
"RE: Boiled street dogs"
Posted by kingfish on 03-19-14 at 08:20 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-19-14 AT 08:24 AM (EST)

Not gonna bite on that one.

Nope.

Holding my tongue.

Not gonna do it.

"RE: NoBleK!"
Posted by Estee on 03-18-14 at 01:18 PM
Two basic Nathan's rules.

1. If the skin doesn't snap on first bite, you've been ripped off.

2. Get the large fries.

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by Estee on 03-18-14 at 01:20 PM
Okay, I finally checked out NJ's assigned meat and have one word for it:

No.

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-18-14 at 01:28 PM
http://www.marianofoods.com/the-deli-1/meats/capicola/italian-hot-capicola.html
Not even with the "natural juices"?
"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by kingfish on 03-19-14 at 08:29 AM
I think there should be another rule:

"If an out of stater has to Wikipedia it, it doesn't count.

Gabagool!

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-19-14 at 07:27 PM
Wikipedia it?
"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by kingfish on 03-20-14 at 09:22 AM
Unintended pun.

(Pretty good one though. I would have intended it if I had been alert).

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by Brownroach on 03-19-14 at 05:25 PM
If you'd prefer hot dogs I'd happily swap meats. (tiny pun intended)
"For the state of OT I suggest..."
Posted by byoffer2 on 03-18-14 at 05:50 PM
...a peep meet! From my experience, the finest of the meets!!

"RE: For the state of OT I suggest..."
Posted by kingfish on 03-19-14 at 08:31 AM
A very deli-cut meet indeed.

(Sorry. Just a giddy moment, I'm better now.)

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by coldbrewer on 03-18-14 at 11:44 PM
Tofu in California?!?! Maybe in SoCal! I think I may have to move to Texas for the brisket. Mmmm...brisket.



thanks Agman!

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 03-19-14 at 07:14 PM
I know, saying tofu is a bit like saying fish. Could she be less specific?

But it does kinda seem like her definition of "meat" has some loopholes. Butter is probably a meat. Butter pie is still available, unless London comes back and claims it first.

"wikipedia-it"
Posted by dabo on 03-22-14 at 05:04 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri-tip
"UK"
Posted by starshine on 03-20-14 at 11:15 AM

England - Rosbif

Scotland - Haggis (although they do have the best beef on the planet.

Wales - Lamb (not as good as New Zealand, but OK)

N.Ireland - The potato (only joking) As Cabbage and Bacon uses a bacon joint I think we can get away with it.


"RE: UK"
Posted by foonermints on 03-21-14 at 08:54 PM
I thought Argentina had the best beef on the planet, but I've never been to Scotland. How could it get better?


Handcrafted by RollDdice
Never been a big fan of McEwans Ale either, but those rummies must have something decent in a keg in the back room.

Northern Ireland? Back in the past I thought their main meat was a 9mm or 7.62x39mm round.
/Smartypants


"RE: UK"
Posted by dabo on 03-22-14 at 08:32 PM
Would you like the Red Angus or the Black Angus?
"Indiana and the US 30 line"
Posted by suzzee on 03-25-14 at 10:20 AM
Pork Tenderloin-->oh not this region rat...

Region Rat (as defined by the 80% of Indiana that lies south of US 30): Anyone that lives North of US 30, alien life form, suspiciously mild interest in the Colts, suspiciously votes Democratic, land mass should be annexed to Chicago.

I am a Region Rat. We more closely identify with Chicago. Same time zone, give me a great steak any day of the week, go Bears and it's a shorter drive to Chicago then Indy. Although Indy's race track is far superior to Chicago's. I'll give them that.

They can keep the pork tenderloin though. I've had them and while those that swear by them (as they slobber their way through eating the meat that traditionally hangs 3 to 5 inches out of the bun) I don't see the attraction.


I should be watched....closely.

"RE: Indiana and the US 30 line"
Posted by dabo on 03-25-14 at 11:27 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-14 AT 11:28 AM (EST)

Ya'll got something agin pounding the pork?

But Chicago is the Hog Butcher of the World!

"Them Hogs"
Posted by foonermints on 03-25-14 at 05:03 PM
Got squinty eyes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nadiaarumugam/2013/06/06/shaunghui-smithfield-deal-means-china-wants-american-pork-surely-this-is-a-good-thing/

You want Ractopamine with that?

"RE: Indiana and the US 30 line"
Posted by dabo on 03-30-14 at 07:27 PM
So, DW and I headed out Friday afternoon for a weekend of meeting up with relatives and others for various to-do's. Yesterday afternoon a bunch of us were in Potatoe-ville so naturally we had to stop in at birthplace of the pork tenderloin sandwich for lunch.

Actually, I was driving and could have put my foot down and gone to the recommended pizza place instead, but folks had been talking about trying the 110 year-old sandwich since the previous day, it really didn't matter to me. Finding the bowling alley -- why they wanted to do some bowling I do not know -- was the real challenge.

So, we get there and get settled in, nice little place, clean and homey, and glancing at the menu I was pleased to find very reasonably priced. So I ordered, of course, the pulled pork. WHAT?! you scream? Hey, I figured there would be plenty of pts's ordered and there were, so I ordered the pulled pork because it was what I felt like having. DD ordered a turkey something, which when it came she wondered was it really what she ordered, but she tasted it and allowed despite that it looked like not-turkey it was turkey and it was good.

I had my pulled pork and it was good and satisfying as well. Everyone else had their pork tenderloins and, nature of the beast, there were some that couldn't finish and I could get a couple of sample bites, which I figured would happen. And, yes, it was good and tasted pretty much like every other pork tenderloin sandwich I'd ever had.

And that's the beauty of it. Start with the right cut of quality meat and know what you are doing, everything else about the sandwich is pretty insignificant. Variations on how the meat is tenderized, what is in the breading, what sort of oil is used, what breeds of mayo or mustard or dill pickles or so on are available, even the bun itself, you can quibble over such things but in the end those are just preferences. Start with the right cut of quality meat and know what you are doing, you would really have to work hard at it and go out of your way to make a bad pork tenderloin sandwich.

That's the trooth!

"Yanks and their old meat. "
Posted by kingfish on 03-31-14 at 08:32 AM
"...,but folks had been talking about trying the 110 year-old sandwich..."

Hmmm, I don't know. I can live with the 5 second rule, but 110 years?

"RE: Meat BoinK!"
Posted by foonermints on 03-31-14 at 10:16 AM
That is all..


Handcrafted by RollDdice

"Meat Swoop Block"
Posted by jbug on 03-31-14 at 10:32 AM
the end


"RE: Meat Swoop Block"
Posted by foonermints on 03-31-14 at 10:49 AM

I'm not going in to work today! neener

"RE: Meat Beat"
Posted by dabo on 07-04-14 at 07:07 PM
adding to the meats of the world ..

http://www.buzzfeed.com/h2/fbsp/fuze/amazing-foods-worth-traveling-for

Smørrebrød in Denmark. Sounds yummy, knew there must be some reason to visit that place.

Feijoada in Brazil. An amazingly meaty-looking dish.

Brik in Tunisia. Quite right, egg is second only to bacon in adding that extra punch.

Neapolitan Pizza in Italy.

Spicy Hot Pot in Sichuan, China.

Meat Pies in Britain. Say what you like about British cooking, they do excel at meat pies and puddings.

Poulet Yassa in Senegal. Well, I do enjoy mustard.

Seafood Paella in Spain.

Varenyky in Ukraine and Russia. Extra points for creative use of bacon fat.

Khao Soi in Northern Thailand.

Boulangerie Sandwiches in France.

Causa in Peru.

Paratha in India.

Ramen in Japan. ))snicker((

Dürüm in Turkey.

Stinky Tofu in China and Taiwan. Sorry, that's where I have to draw the line.

"Putin's Russia?"
Posted by kidflash212 on 08-15-14 at 12:23 PM
"RE: Putin's Russia?"
Posted by cahaya on 08-15-14 at 08:39 PM
Well played, very well played!
"RE: Putin's Russia?"
Posted by Brownroach on 08-15-14 at 11:17 PM
Bwahaha!

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