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10-26-04, 07:57 PM (EST)
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"Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
Let's discuss tonight's episode here!


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 RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 arkiegrl 10-26-04 1
   RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 Schnookie Palookie 10-26-04 2
       RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 MTW1961 10-27-04 7
 RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 PrincessJ 10-27-04 3
   RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 MTW1961 10-27-04 9
 RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 Puffy 10-27-04 4
   RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 pmspml5 10-27-04 5
       RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 MTW1961 10-27-04 10
   1 lb. muscle = 1 lb. fat hunterjax 10-27-04 13
 Hey Guys! volsfan 10-27-04 6
 RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 skeetergirl87 10-27-04 8
   RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 DHerder222 10-27-04 11
   RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 MTW1961 10-27-04 12
       RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 realitychick 10-27-04 14
 RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004 banzai 11-01-04 15

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10-26-04, 09:00 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
I can't believe what an a-hole that one guy is (what's his name, Ryan?). That was just cruel, the way he revealed his vote. There was just no reason to be like that.

And don't these people know that when you replace fat with muscle, you're not going to lose as much weight? Why aren't the trainers telling them that?


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10-26-04, 10:30 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
Agree, Ryan was a total a$$. I would have loved to wipe that smirk off his face.

I was also surprised that they were all shocked at the little amount of weight loss this week. I would have thought for sure that someone would have advised them.

At this point, I'd be getting rid of Maurice. I think that's his name. He's the one that keeps eating the fat stuff during their meals.


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10-27-04, 12:09 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
Ryan is one of those guys with a truly pathetic sense of humor. He thinks what he's saying is funny, but it's not.


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10-27-04, 00:58 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
LAST EDITED ON 10-27-04 AT 00:59 AM (EST)

Ryan was a jerk tonight. I think Dave should have gone home. He's so lazy!

Ryan went to college in my hometown. I didn't know him, but tonight they interviewed his sister on the news tonight. I guess the fat genes run in the family. She said it, I didn't. She used to weigh over 300lbs. (They showed a pic of her!) She said she had gastric bypass surgery and lost 150lbs or so. She still looked heavy. Anyway, she was really excited for Ryan.

Just thought i'd share the local info.

Vols and MTW, I'm back! I missed your hilarious commentaries and summaries. You guys rock!

ETA to add some info I forgot!

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9. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
Yay! Welcome back Princess J!


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4. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
Same thoughts here re: muscle weighing more than fat. The trainer just said it was water weight that they lost the first week. Yet, I'm very surprised about the low numbers tonight. I think some of the women should have been heavier from the beginning, 200 pounders.



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10-27-04, 06:45 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
The previews for next week say we will be shocked at who goes home. Who would shock you?
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10-27-04, 12:11 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
I think it would be pretty shocking to see Maurice go home, even though they've teased the idea. Maybe someone starts to really go off the deep end next week.


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10-27-04, 01:39 PM (EST)
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13. "1 lb. muscle = 1 lb. fat"
Sorry to be the fact nerd here but a pound of muscle and a pound of fat actually weigh the same... 1 pound. It's just that fat takes up more mass that muscle. I've seen many people at Weight Watchers pull the whole "muscle weighs more than fat" argument to explain why they aren't losing weight even when they're exercising.

The amounts of weight the contestants lost in the first week was frightenly dramatic and unhealthy. Healthy weight loss should be around 2 lbs a week (definitely more during the first week since you're jump-starting your metabolism). Reality TV, though, would never have the patience to tolerate "healthy weight loss" on the show. Lower weight acheived by dramatically rapid weight loss is rarely sustainable.

The whole premise behind the contest annoys me. I still don't see how they can continue to base the winning team on total weight lost weekly. It's unfair. What am I talking about...it's reality tv. Fair? What does fair matter? Oh well. Won't stop me from watching unfortunately.

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10-27-04, 12:00 PM (EST)
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6. "Hey Guys!"
I spilled a glass of water on my laptop lastnight just after posting this thresd! I don't have a computer as of now! I am at my parents and hope to have a computer soon.

I didn't get to watch the show but I will write the summary (I have it taped). I will post the summary as soon as I can! URGH!


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10-27-04, 12:09 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
I still haven't made up my mind about this show. I think it's trying to rise above being a typical reality show and not humiliate the participants too much, but it's a fine line to walk. I really don't like that it's putting all of the focus on how much weight is lost, rather than the process. Rapid weight loss is not good for your body and the faster you lose it, the better chance that it will come back when you're done "dieting". These people are (or should be) making a lifestyle change, which takes time. Somebody else mentioned that there is a mental aspect to overeating which is not being focused on and I agree.

Also, the participants are used to being laughed at and rejected because of their weight and now it's just more of the same, but it hurts worse because it's coming from people that should be sympathetic to them. And as a previously overweight person, I really feel for what they're going through. I guess I wish it could just be a positive show where these people are choosing to change their lives with no negative consequences. But, I guess, where is the fun (and ratings) in that?

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10-27-04, 12:38 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
You're right, skeetergirl87. I was shocked that no one prepared them for hardly losing any weight during the second week, especially when any junior high health teacher could tell you that would happen. It proves that their doctors and trainers likely have nothing in mind but losing pounds.

That said, I wouldn't blame the show if the participants are humiliated, at least to a certain extent. They signed up for a reality show knowing full well what that entails, so these people are all camera-happy to a certain extent.

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10-27-04, 12:44 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
I think that many of us are sympathetic to what these participants are going through, and are rooting for them to lose weight.

"Also, the participants are used to being laughed at and rejected because of their weight and now it's just more of the same, but it hurts worse because it's coming from people that should be sympathetic to them."

I don't understand what you mean. Are you talking about the ones who have been eliminated? So far,it's the ones who are the LEAST overweight! And it's not because anyone's unsympathetic, it's because the rules require someone to go.

I think one nice change would be to add a "loser lodge" like they do with Survivor and Big Brother, where the eliminated contestants could still undergo the diet and training regimen they started during the show.

So far though, it seems like the eliminated contestants learned a lot about proper weight loss techniques and have taken their lessons home and continued to lose weight. It's interesting and encouraging to see what they've done since being eliminated.

Yes, there's drama and conflict - you can't have a story without it - but overall, I think they've been very respectful and sesitive with the players. Even their choice of players indicates this was there goal. They could have choosen a bunch of unsympathetic nutjobs who happened to be overweight, and we would have hated them. (Did you watch The Complex?) Instead, they chose relatively normal people that we could relate to and root for.


Reminds me of the old comeback line: "I may be fat, but you're ugly, and at least I can lose the weight!

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10-27-04, 03:51 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
"Also, the participants are used to being laughed at and rejected because of their weight and now it's just more of the same, but it hurts worse because it's coming from people that should be sympathetic to them."

I think they meant these people are used to be made fun of generally, every day of their lives, in front of and behind their backs, not just due to the show. Now it is worse.

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11-01-04, 05:19 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Episode 2: 10/26/2004"
selling those baked cookies reminded me of the Apprentice show.
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