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"SYTYCD5 Top 20 Reveal 6/4 ECST"
Please keep all discussion of the top twenty on this thread, text only, until the West Coast has finished celebrating and/or throwing foam bricks at their TV.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 32 remain Snidget 06-04-09 1
 Jeanette up first Snidget 06-04-09 2
 Diana Snidget 06-04-09 3
   RE: Diana jbug 06-04-09 4
       RE: Diana Snidget 06-04-09 6
 Vitollio Snidget 06-04-09 5
 Bad news for the next half hour Snidget 06-04-09 7
   RE: Bad news for the next half hour SilverStar 06-04-09 9
 Kayla Snidget 06-04-09 8
 RE: SYTYCD5 Top 20 Reveal 6/4 ECST jbug 06-04-09 10
 Kupono Snidget 06-04-09 11
   RE: Kupono SilverStar 06-04-09 18
       RE: Kupono citywitch 06-06-09 61
           RE: Kupono DoodleBug 06-06-09 64
 Celebrations Snidget 06-04-09 12
   RE: Celebrations emydi 06-05-09 42
 Brandon Snidget 06-04-09 13
   RE: Brandon jbug 06-04-09 14
       RE: Brandon SilverStar 06-04-09 21
   RE: Brandon SilverStar 06-04-09 16
       RE: Brandon riverrocker 06-06-09 60
           RE: Brandon Snidget 06-06-09 63
           RE: Brandon Sunny_Bunny 06-06-09 66
   RE: Brandon trigirl 06-05-09 38
       RE: Brandon emydi 06-05-09 43
   RE: Brandon mhdallas 06-05-09 50
   RE: Brandon vicky100 06-05-09 58
 Tony Snidget 06-04-09 15
   RE: Tony citywitch 06-06-09 62
       RE: Tony crs3192 06-06-09 69
 Yesses Snidget 06-04-09 17
 Ashley Snidget 06-04-09 19
 Randi Evans Snidget 06-04-09 20
 17 are through--Alex Wong Snidget 06-04-09 22
   RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong byoffer 06-05-09 35
       RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong JessicaRN 06-05-09 40
           RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong emydi 06-05-09 44
           RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong Snidget 06-05-09 48
       RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong Sunny_Bunny 06-06-09 67
   RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong mhdallas 06-05-09 52
       RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong vicky100 06-05-09 59
 Joind by four more Snidget 06-04-09 23
 Three spots left. Phillip Snidget 06-04-09 24
   RE: Three spots left. Phillip emydi 06-05-09 45
   RE: Three spots left. Phillip mhdallas 06-05-09 53
 Final Four left One Guys and One G... Snidget 06-04-09 25
   RE: Final Four left One Guys and O... jbug 06-04-09 26
   RE: Final Four left One Guys and O... byoffer 06-04-09 27
       RE: Final Four left One Guys and O... byoffer 06-04-09 29
   Deana vs Asuka Snidget 06-04-09 28
       RE: Deana vs Asuka byoffer 06-04-09 31
           RE: Deana vs Asuka emydi 06-05-09 46
               RE: Deana vs Asuka Belle Book 06-06-09 68
           RE: Deana vs Asuka qwertypie 06-05-09 49
           RE: Deana vs Asuka mhdallas 06-05-09 54
   Evan vs Ryan the brothers Snidget 06-04-09 30
       RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers byoffer 06-04-09 33
           RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers grit 06-05-09 36
               RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers Snidget 06-05-09 37
                   RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers trigirl 06-05-09 39
                       RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers grit 06-05-09 41
                           RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers emydi 06-05-09 47
                               RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers DoodleBug 06-06-09 65
                       RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers SilverStar 06-06-09 70
           RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers mhdallas 06-05-09 56
 Top 20 SilverStar 06-04-09 32
   RE: Top 20 ulalame 06-05-09 34
   RE: Top 20 arkiegrl 06-05-09 51
       RE: Top 20 Snidget 06-05-09 55
           Editing aethelstan 06-08-09 71
 RE: SYTYCD5 Top 20 Reveal 6/4 ECST skeetergirl87 06-05-09 57

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1. "32 remain"
the top 20 are chosen. All that is left is to break the news.

Walk to the stage to find out

This is So You Think You Can Dance.

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2. "Jeanette up first"
Had rough couple of weeks before the show. Broke up with boyfriend, had a car wreck.

Somersault into the split. Worked very hard in Vegas.

In the top 20.

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3. "Diana "
Brought a lucky monkey with her.

Has moths, beyond butterflies in the stomach.

See a lot of potential in her.

Not in the top 20.

They say she is better than she was an see you next season.

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4. "RE: Diana "
~~~waving at Snidgie~~~

Isn't this much better than where you just came from?

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6. "RE: Diana "
I so want to do the flashdance water dump thing because I need to be cleansed.
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5. "Vitollio"
Grew up in Haiti, grew up with grandmother for awhile then ended up in an orphanage. Danced in street to make money.

Sometimes it takes dancers a long time to show up in Vegas. You didn't come alive until the groups.

Factoring in all that, he is factored into the top 20.

Lil C gave the news.

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7. "Bad news for the next half hour"
Not all getting named.

Henry is out.

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9. "RE: Bad news for the next half hour"
Who were those people??? Is it really that hard to put up a graphic with someone's name on it? So frustrating.
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8. "Kayla"
Mia gives the news.

So glad you auditioned. I love male dancers, and rare for me to connect with a female dancer and you have completely moved all of us.

So glad you will be in the top 20.

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10. "RE: SYTYCD5 Top 20 Reveal 6/4 ECST"
so are we going to see a knock down drag out between judges?
(aka Hasslehoff & Morgan style?)
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11. "Kupono"
Took the advice on the hair issue.

Makes to do lists.

Adam gives the news. Lot of things off putting in Seattle. In Vegas you were strong. One of the strongest in Vegas. Be a big challange to get your name on the screen because you are in the top 20.

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18. "RE: Kupono"
How cute is he, with his little list? Aww. I like him. And he's way hot with the new haircut.
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61. "RE: Kupono"
i'm late to the party this season...didn't anyone else like his old hair style? I LOVED it...kind of Mark K. gone wild
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64. "RE: Kupono"
I liked both - but I like the shorter better so you can see his cute face!
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12. "Celebrations"
Paris, Jeanine, Aday
Karla, Jonathan
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42. "RE: Celebrations"
LAST EDITED ON 06-05-09 AT 10:52 AM (EST)

can you spell F-O-D-D-E-R

they spent 2 1/2 secs on each of them


ETA: Although, Sabra was not shown at all and she won her season...we'll see

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13. "Brandon"
LAST EDITED ON 06-04-09 AT 09:26 PM (EST)

Mary loves him.
Not everyone agrees.
Mia not a fan

Mia gives the news. I can't take you. I can't take what you bring to the floor. It annoys the beep out of her. Rubbed her the wrong way. Attitude with a fake smile. There is talent but not all cracked up. Don't see it.

Debbie stands up for him.

Nigel intervenes so Debbie can talk.
Manliness, don't judge your personality.

Lil C don't impressme

Mary doesn't want to listen to this and can't stand to see you torn down. I don't think you are cocky you are a fabulous dancer and don't want to listen to this crap.

Nigel says you have 4 votes out of six and in the top 20.

He is going to show them what he's got if they choreograph him.

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14. "RE: Brandon"
That was unnecessary. To put him down so much - and then put him thru to the top.
That will be unfair to him if/when he has to work with Mia &/or LilC
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21. "RE: Brandon"
Yeah, like, how is he even supposed to enjoy his good news when he's probably still thinking about all the crap they dumped on him? Mia and Lil C are entitled to their opinions, but is it really the best time to be all "We hate you, but you're in the Top 20 and I'll bet it's going to be great working with you! Except not." It just made them (especially Mia) seem really unprofessional and catty.
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16. "RE: Brandon"
You know what I can't handle? Mia. God, I bleeping HATE her. She thinks that Brandon has a cocky attitude? SHE can't handle that? How does she even handle the sound of her own voice or looking at herself in the mirror everyday? Because she's about the most full of herself, nasty, cocky, thinks-her-shizz-don't-stink bleeping bleepity bleep bleep that ever bleeped. Haaaaaaaaaate.

Mary has just restored some of my faith in her. If only she would stop the screaming, I could almost like her again.

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60. "RE: Brandon"
>You know what I can't handle?
>Mia. God, I bleeping HATE
>her. She thinks that Brandon
>has a cocky attitude? SHE
>can't handle that? How does
>she even handle the sound
>of her own voice or
>looking at herself in the
>mirror everyday? Because she's about
>the most full of herself,
>nasty, cocky, thinks-her-shizz-don't-stink bleeping bleepity
>bleep bleep that ever bleeped.
>Haaaaaaaaaate.
>
>Mary has just restored some of
>my faith in her. If
>only she would stop the
>screaming, I could almost like
>her again.


Could not agree more!!! She's made me mad enough that I will vote for Brandon, whether he had the best performance or not! That woman has a lot of nerve!

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63. "RE: Brandon"
From one of Adam's (IIRC) tweets that wasn't the only mega drama with the top 20 selection.

However given that was one guy Mary and Nigel (permanent judges) are backing it wouldn't surprise me if that was the one chosen for the editing so that he'd get a bump in the voting from a "screw Mia" backlash.

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66. "RE: Brandon"
LAST EDITED ON 06-06-09 AT 11:13 AM (EST)

"She thinks that Brandon has a cocky attitude? SHE can't handle that?"

Real World Translation: "HE doesn't drop and kiss my feet when I walk into the room, HE doesn't kiss my Emmy before he walks onto the floor when I am the choreographer, and he has his own mind. I just can't handle that."

I do recognize that Mia is a talented choreographer, but I get REALLY tired of her acting as if hers is the only "true" dance style. And this thing about only liking male dancers because they are so "strong" is simply satisfying her need to be idolized drooled over by male dancers while being in total control over them.

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38. "RE: Brandon"
I do not get all the hate-on for Brandon. Do you think that he is so good that they are trying to bring him down a peg or that they don't want to give him the "Will" edit? Maybe this is all tactical and they want to give him an underdog edit. Really don't get it.
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43. "RE: Brandon"
I think you may have something...I asked myself Brandon will either be Will-like or Josh-like...Nigel is on Brandon's side so I think the producers want him to be Josh *in that he goes to finals and not cut at top 10

Although he does have a weird smile that might seem obsequious to a judge. Not defending Mia, I think she was way out of line.

I do see a kumbaya moment when he does get to work with Mia and he nails it...not sure about him and the King of Krump tho, I don't think he will be that good in hip hop

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50. "RE: Brandon"
Mia needs to shut the **** up. Brandon is extremely talented and very sweet. What attitude? The only attitude I saw was from Mia. What a b**ch. I'll probably only watch this season half-heartedly anyway, but if she's going to be onscreen a lot, I can easily see me turning the show off.

I think Brandon is a fabulous dancer.

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58. "RE: Brandon"
Hi there..
I am not exactly sure what Mia and Lil C had a problem with. Brandon seemed humble and if he was smiling, perhaps nerves?
Frankly, I was dissapointed to hear Mia tear into him like that and Kudos to Mary, whom you dont see that angry very often for standing up to him. Mia thought he was cocky, really Mia? Yeah, I think that emmy went to your head and you feel you have the first and last word on charactor..sheesh..
What was not to be impressed about, he nailed everything from what I saw..what was the problem?
I thought he was sensitive, when Natalie left (what the heck were they thinking then?!?!?) he was torn apart, no sign of cockyness there. I dont get it...in any event, I feel it should have been about the dancing and not the character, if he was so cocky and fake, no doubt the producers would have shown some clips of such behavior I would think. I didnt see anything of the sort but then again, I wasnt there.
He reminds me much of Will from last season and Debbie got it. That is her type of dance style. Kudos again to Mary, Nigel, Adam and Debbie for seeing his potential and putting him through.
I think of nothing else, this will light a fire under his behind and he will do just fine.
He is one of my favorites already!
Take care!
Vicky
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15. "Tony"
thinking about his brother in Afghanistan.

Nigel. I don't think your dance technique is as strong as it should be. Everyone loves you. But lack of vocabulary in your dancing.

Delighted to put you in the top 20. Don't look so shocked. You've really got to bring it. We want to see your journey.

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62. "RE: Tony"
i think he's this seasons Ivan
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69. "RE: Tony"
AGREED!!

But he could also be considered like that guy either last season or the season before who was started like Ivan did and never really improved...

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17. "Yesses"
Maxim, Caitlin, Melissa, and Jason.
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19. "Ashley"
4th year auditioning.

Mary. See a fighter in you. See a lot of improvement.

This is going to be the final stop because this time you are in the top 20.

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20. "Randi Evans"
Auditioned in Denver.

You have that body of a Tigres (Mia) you are not there yet. you haven't steped into your glory. Committed to your unitards. Commit to your artistry like your unitards you will go far.

We love you and we think America will love you and you are in the top 20. They want the yes and she can't speak.

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22. "17 are through--Alex Wong"
Really wants to do a lot of different styles.

We adore you (nigel) one of our strongest dancers. you are under contract. He spoke to the artistic director, if they would let you out of your contract. I don't blame him, they can't afford to let him out. When it expires they would love for him to come back.

He is satisfied but wants to do other forms of dance.

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35. "RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong"
this one broke my heart, because Alex was so good during the auditions. I really wanted to see him on the show. I understand that a contract is a contract, but if the guy does well doesn't that boost up the attention to the show where he is under contract?

But why is he even at the SYTYCD auditions knowing that he is under contract? Don't they have to sign some sort of waiver first??

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40. "RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong"
That's what I was thinking. He is a great dancer, but why was he allowed to take up a space.

It seems like they kind of were making up the rules as they went along. Cutting certain people outright, giving certain people a chance to "dance for their life." Giving some hours to prepare for this, others, 10 minutes. Giving spots based on talent, cutting some who didn't live up to their expectations, saving some based on their potential.

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44. "RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong"
it's all production and drama value. They brought him all that way and needed a sob story. You'll remember him when he's done with his K (contract in legalese) and is on Season 7 or 8


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48. "RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong"
They voted on all of them.

2 or fewer votes you were out. (now why that 2 was capricious is in part I think from the how many of what kind of slot you have and who is in that slot).

3 jidges votes you had to dance for your life/redo the choreography. I think some of the how much time to prepare was on when they were in the group. Everyone knew they were supposed to have solos prepared.

4 votes and you were through.

These shows are cast as much as they are based on talent so out of the top 10 girls they may only want 5 contemporary and they probably don't want them all the same. So if there are 10 girls all going for the same slot on the show you will see more cut for not living up to expectations, but if you see someone that is lets say hip hop and there are only two people for that slot you may see someone get through because of a bigger personality or more potential if neither one is extra-super-spectacular.

I also think you get a few of who the judges will fight for and they may save up votes for those people rather than someone that is good but not in place of someone they really want.

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67. "RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong"
This bothered Ra and I as well. Logic says that if you are under contract with a company, you don't go off to do something that is going to take you away from that contract without clearing it with the boss first. Seriously, why not go to the boss and say "If I get onto the show and win or end up on the tour, this will translate into increased ticket sales when I return!" To not check first was extremely unprofessional. Hopefully when his contract comes up for renewal, he will ask for an "other projects" clause that will allow him to try again.

On the other hand, Nigel was equally stupid not calling that AD during the city auditions to clear Alex before he wasted all that time auditioning for something he could not compete in. Not to mention the dancer that would have had a shot for the show but who didn't get chosen so Alex could compete.

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52. "RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong"
Ok - there went one of the only two reasons I would've been really interested in the show this year. What an incredible dancer he is. While I understand about the contract issue, still...they could've released him for just the few weeks it would've taken him to do this show. Just think of the publicity it would've given their company! But, like Nigel said, I guess I can't blame them for not wanting to let go of their star performer.

What a shame. There goes half my interest in this show.

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59. "RE: 17 are through--Alex Wong"
Yes this was tough to watch, but also, I feel that Alex should have checked first before trying to join SYTYCD.
However, what a season that would have been between Brandon and Alex..that would have been amazing! With that said, I cant wait to see him next time or when his contract is up.
I think it was not to smart that the ballet company would not to let him perform. As stated, it would have been wonderful publicity and I bet more $$$$ coming in as people seeing the show would go to see him perform!..they still might..LOL!
But a contract is a contract and ultimatly, it was Brandons responsibility to check first..but we will see him soon I am sure!
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23. "Joind by four more"
Grils with red hair. Another one I don't know.

Looks like Rikki did not get on.

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24. "Three spots left. Phillip"
Feels from a completely different world.

Are you injured. Emotionally.

Adam asks about Vegas week. Opened his mind, and he's not holding back anymore. Done really good things for me.

Nobody does what you do better than you. you've grown and improved. Overall sense of loving dance. It means a lot to you.

He is in the top 20.

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45. "RE: Three spots left. Phillip"
Ok i have dibs on Philip I want him to win the whole thing...I can't wait to see what he does
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53. "RE: Three spots left. Phillip"
Ok dancer - weird lips. I can watch him from the neck down.
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25. "Final Four left One Guys and One Girls spot."
Cat hates being the angel of doom.
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26. "RE: Final Four left One Guys and One Girls spot."
I wanted to see both brothers make it.
I knew tho when they weren't sent it that they'd put them up against each other.
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27. "RE: Final Four left One Guys and One Girls spot."
*fingers crossed for a top 22*
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29. "RE: Final Four left One Guys and One Girls spot."
nope. so one of the bros is going home.
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28. "Deana vs Asuka"
blonde contemporary vs Asian Ballroom.

Debbie giving the news.

One of you exciting to watch, one was powerful but not enough risks and didn't go the distance.

Deana this is the end of your journey
Asuka is in the top 20.

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31. "RE: Deana vs Asuka"
I don't get the judges love for Asuka.
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46. "RE: Deana vs Asuka"
I keep hearing Oscar so that is what I am calling her....Belle is a big fan of Oscar
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68. "RE: Deana vs Asuka"
So that's why you keep calling Asuka "Oscar"!

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Asuka. Everyone who knows me knows that little fact. It's probably become a big joke by now.


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49. "RE: Deana vs Asuka"
She filled a niche (they needed more ballroom) and she is unique with her dance style and ethinic background. I am not sure how that is going to translate in audience support though (unless she can find a sick or dying family member for the sob story)
I am thrilled that Mia was so hatin' on Brandon that she forgot to torpedo the ballroom people.
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54. "RE: Deana vs Asuka"
She's my favorite female dancer - I think she's adorable. I'm just sad they voted her partner off because they were such a great couple. Frankly, when I saw him leave, I felt like the Titanic had just hit the iceburg - there was still some hope, but the outlook was definitely not good. And when Alex left, it was like the engine sank....and then....
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30. "Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
Straight tie vs bow tie.

Similar in style. Burlesque style. Only room for one of you this season.

Ryan be very proud because it is probably your choreography that got Evan through to the top 20.

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33. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
to me it was obvious that Evan would be the one to go through. I am sad, because Ryan deserves to be there also. He is certainly better than that tall guy they put through as a project. I still wonder if having the two bros on would have worked against either of them doing well (ie split their voters). Hopefully this way Evan can go far. I would love to see them bring Ryan around to do some choreography!
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36. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
I was hoping they would give the spot to Ryan. I read somewhere that he's 30 so this is his last chance. Evan is younger and could audition for another season. I liked Ryan a little more than Evan. And the judges are right, Ryan's choreography really helped Evan.
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37. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
Nigel tweeted this:
A lot of people are suggesting Ryan choreographs this Season. If he did, he would be a Fox employee and not allowed to compete next season?

Which makes it sound like he could still be eligible for next season?

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39. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
Hey Snidget....I was just coming to write that.....

I think that Nigel (et al) have done the boys a favour. If they were both in the same season, their votes would probably cancel each other out. They would have the same fan base. I hope that Ryan is in season 6.

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41. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
So it seems I'm not the only one around here with a little Ryan love, huh?
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47. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
i think it is good that they are separated too...I guess as long as you're still 30 when you audition I think if Season 6 had been next summer, Ryan would have gotten the spot.

I love Ryan, he's so humble and a bit self deprecating...love that! I can't wait to see him in the audience. I think Evan will do well, he's one of the best known men in top 10. I think he and Randi (unitard lady) should be partners because she's short like him and it would be a great couple!!

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65. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
Maybe we'll see Ryan this fall?
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70. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
I would have hated to have them both on the same season because I don't know if I could handle that much cheesiness. I like them individually, but whenever they were on screen together yukking it up, I found myself annoyed. They were trying too hard to be funny, or something.
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56. "RE: Evan vs Ryan the brothers"
...the rest of the ship just went down. Man. Evan's great and all, but Ryan was my favorite by far. So much humor, talent, and character.
(And it just hit me where I've seen that face before - the fireman Eric from Big Brother 6, although Ryan is much funnier.)

Oh well. I'll give it a couple of more weeks before I stop watching - there are still a couple of hopeful contenders left who might step it up a bit.
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32. "Top 20"
I just wanted to put them all in 1 post... here are our Top 20 dancers:

Ade
Ashley
Asuka
Brandon
Caitlin
Evan
Janette
Jason
Jeanine
Jonathan
Karla
Kayla
Kupono
Max
Melissa
Paris
Phillip
Randi
Tony
Vitolio

I have to give a big who?? to: Ade, Ashley, Jeanine, Jonathan, Karla, Melissa, Randi and Vitolio. I only watched each audition show once this year whereas in other years I was obsessive and watched them several times, but I really don't remember seeing any of these people before. I know there was a lot of talk about the "naughty ballerina" (Melissa) from commercials, but I don't think we ever saw her on the actual show. So by my count that's 8 strangers. Way too many. I'm going to watch the audition shows again though, and see if I'm wrong.

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34. "RE: Top 20"
You don't remember them, because they didn't show them! I think they totally flubbed on auditions weeks this year. Pretty much everyone featured, was cut, and they kept their favorites so hidden, they didn't even feature them during Vegas week, let alone during the show in their Audition city.

I typically like the way they handle auditions weeks and Vegas week in SYTYCD so much better than AI's auditions, because the SYTYCD auditions seem more humane, make more sense and are handled more diplomatically than the typical AI ones, which are drawn out, hateful, and boring, but this year, they must have gotten the same AI editors, because last night totally sucked, people were cut ruthlessly, meanly and incomprehensibly (Natalie) and tonight was kind of an afterthought, since they were already down to less than 40, most of whom we've never seen before.

I'm bummed. I hope this doesn't bode badly for the whole season!

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51. "RE: Top 20"
I've been thinking about the fact that so many who had a lot of screen time ended up being cut, and maybe I'm giving the producers more credit than they deserve, but maybe it's to help those who didn't make the show get a little more exposure. You know, like maybe someone will have caught a clip of part of their audition, and remember them when the dancers audition for something else?
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55. "RE: Top 20"
Well I also think in terms of story telling in any reality TV show. They usually know by the time they start showing the auditions who the top 20 are and they have some people with interesting stories or something cool about their dance that have a very short story arc.

So you either completely cut them out in favor of someone that is going to be seen later on and don't tell their story at all, or you show the story because you can for as long as it lasts.

Like on Survivor often the person that has a lot of their story told during the first half of the first episode may not have a very long life on the show, there are those we see a lot of in the auditions and Vegas because that is all they have to work with.

It would probably be boring if we only saw the top 20. I would like to at least have their name said enough times it is familiar to me before they get revealed, but with the small number of episodes they do auditions for on SYTYCD they have to cut a lot more out than in AI where they have weeks and weeks of the stuff. So I tend to forgive it a little more here since they do keep the time short.

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71. "Editing"
I thought of another factor in the editing process and I wonder if it's an unwritten rule or not.

Every single partner/sibling/GF/BF pairing that arrived were split up, some at a very late stage but all were split. Moreover, almost everyone that we got to know from the top 20 had partner's that got cut somewhere down the line.

Chbeeb (he should just go by his last name. It's too awesome) - partner Arielle got cut
Asuka - Ricky was one of the final cuts
Caitlin - Melissa was a late cut
Brandon - Nathalie was a Day 2 cut
Evan - brother Ryan was the last cut
Jeanette - her partner was cut

Those are pretty much the only top 20 we really got to know (and Tony) so I think there must be something to the "lost partner" storyline.

That said, I watched last week's episodes again knowing the top 20 and I was surprised at how often I saw quick glimpses or comments from Jason, Vitolio, Max, Paris and I think I recognized a couple of other faces too. So, they did show them here and there.

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57. "RE: SYTYCD5 Top 20 Reveal 6/4 ECST"
I was kind of surprised and disappointed in some of the cuts (like Natalie), but I wonder if they were wanting to keep some people in their pocket for next season since it will be beginning to close to this one. Maybe they were worried about totally depleting the talent pool, so they cut some of the better dancers from this season and told them to come back for next season. That would also add to the audience draw - "look Natalie's back"! or whatever. At least that's what I'm hoping for some of them.
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