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Wacko Jacko 2434 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 10-09-05, 06:05 PM (EST) "Shawna's Firing" This is a reason why Martha's Apprentice will be canceled. She changed the rules. She wanted to fire Shawna so bad that she manipulated the rules. Shawna was not brought to the board room and therefore should not of been fired. For one thing by firing Shawna she weaken Matchstick even mroe than it already was. Shawna was part of the glue that held that team togther. The chemistry of Matchstick is hurt even more now. Martha used the excuse that the reason the team lost was the sales not the design of the cake. THEY LOST FOR BOTH REASONS! She said this aint right I am calling veryone back....poopycock. She wanted to fire Shawna because of her guaranty and her comment about fake it to you make it. You know what Shawna was right...in business part of making it is faking it to you make it. You want people to think you are more intelligent than you really are. Martha firing Shawna might be the final blow to this series. You put a nail in your own coffin Marhta....some business woman you are. LOL.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Shawna's Firing freakusmaximus 10-09-05 1    RE: Shawna's Firing Wacko Jacko 10-10-05 2  RE: Shawna's Firing Tough Cookie 10-10-05 3    RE: Shawna's Firing freakusmaximus 10-10-05 4  RE: Shawna's Firing lindan 10-10-05 5    RE: Shawna's Firing Megacanuck 10-11-05 6        RE: Shawna's Firing freakusmaximus 10-11-05 7        RE: Shawna's Firing JoshInSGV 10-11-05 8            RE: Shawna's Firing Wacko Jacko 10-15-05 9                RE: Shawna's Firing freakusmaximus 10-16-05 10                    RE: Shawna's Firing prosecutor 10-19-05 11            RE: Shawna's Firing Tough Cookie 10-19-05 12                RE: Shawna's Firing lrlr1 11-18-05 15  RE: Shawna's Firing Sues 10-19-05 13  RE: Shawna's Firing EnfanTerrible 11-03-05 14

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freakusmaximus 310 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-09-05, 07:01 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Shawna's Firing" I completely disagree. Shawna was the reason they lost. Her bad judgment and bad research led to the teams' failure for the following reasons: 1. she was wrong to rely on the advice of only one expert - she insisted they use pink based on one conversation with one woman. this was bad research and bad judgment 2. she didnt research the store- michael c fina where the cake was being sold. michael c fina, while high-end compared to some stores, is not considered very high-end in NYC (I registered there for my wedding and while its a GREAT store, one of its advantages is that it discounts) tiffany's, bergdorfs etc are much more high end and may have had the type of clients who would buy such an expensive cake, but not michael c fina. so again, her decision, in terms of how expensive and exclusive the cake would be was a huge error. so basically all of Shawna's decisions led to the failure- the color of the cake, the price and the exclusive type design were all wrong for the Michael C fina crowd. she could have learned all this info by doing some real reserach instead of "faking it" I totally thought Martha did the right thing by letting her go.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Wacko Jacko 2434 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 10-10-05, 09:27 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Shawna's Firing" It was a team effort. They lost because of the whole team. The point was if Shawna was brought to the board than sure she should of been fired but she wasn't. Martha was PO'd because she wasn't because she really wanted to fire her. But Shawna was fired because of the guaranty and the fake it comment not because of performance. If David brought her to the boardroom it would of been justified....now being one of the two going to the boardroom is a moot point because now it don't matter. Why have the project manager pick two people......I would've fired her if she was brought to the boardroom. Believe me I have talked to others who were watching this show and they said they are going to stop now that this happened.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Tough Cookie 256 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-10-05, 12:53 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Shawna's Firing" I have to agree that it was not in accordance with the set out rules, for Martha to bring Shawn back in to the "board room." However watching Martha freak out,priceless Siggie Courtesy of tribelphyl! And that's the way the cookie crumbles   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

freakusmaximus 310 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-10-05, 05:01 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Shawna's Firing" I thought it was great that martha brought shawna back. martha is taking this show seriously - her business judgment is very high caliber and it shows from her decisions. of course she could have done what Trump does- fire the person later on, or fire the PM for bringing in the wrong people, but here Marth hit the nail on the head- shawna caused the team to lose this task so she should have been the one to go   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

lindan 270 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-10-05, 06:03 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Shawna's Firing" Did Martha change the rules? Or did she just enforce a rule that is not known to the audience? Afterall, we don't know whether there is a written rule that is engraved in stone that says the person who is fired has to be either be the losing pm or the person whom the PM brings in.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Megacanuck 120 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-11-05, 11:49 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Shawna's Firing" Actually, I'm almost positive that The Donald did the same thing in a previous season of his show. I definitely remember him calling everyone back into the boardroom, at the very least. Regardless, if Martha is serious about picking someone to work for her, then ultimately it was the right decision because SHE felt it was the right decision. If she was that upset and offended by a contestant, then that person needed to go right away. As much as this is entertainment for us, it's business for her.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

freakusmaximus 310 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-11-05, 06:30 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Shawna's Firing" I agree completely. I never really liked Martha before this show but since watching it, you can tell she is very sharp, makes good decisions and very involved in the hiring of this candidate, etc. as much as there is stuff about her that is annoying , I have alot of respect for her   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

JoshInSGV 737 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 10-11-05, 07:43 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Shawna's Firing" If my memory doesnt fail me. In season 2, Trump did bring back the entire team so they could all chime in about Stacy J's alleged meltdown. This led to Stacy J's lynching...uh, i mean firing. =) I dont really think that Trump has ever vetoed the PM's decision by firing someone who was not brough into the boardroom. If Trump disagrees with the PM's decision, he usually just fires the PM.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Wacko Jacko 2434 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 10-15-05, 10:24 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Shawna's Firing" With Shawna's firing there is no point to just bring three into the boardroom ever again. it is pointless. If Marha doesn't like the trump set up then fine but it should've been established from the beginning. It is a different show and if Martha wanted to change something in the way Trump does it she should've done it from the beginning. Like I don't believe Martha offers the PM immunity...that was set out from the beginning so that is fine.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

freakusmaximus 310 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-16-05, 12:49 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Shawna's Firing" The main point of the show is for Martha to find someone to work for her. The fact that she made a rule at the beginning and changed it is irrelevant. How could she have known when making the rules that PM would be so wrong as to who to bring into the board room. in the end the quality of the person she hires is far more important than the consistency of the rules of this show. besides, bosses, companies, firms change policies/rules all the time.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

prosecutor 449 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 10-19-05, 11:06 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Shawna's Firing" I totally thought Martha was awesome for bringing Shawn back and firing her I applauded out loud. I was never a Martha fan, but she did what I would have done and I am starting to see her in a whole new light. I will definitely keep watching.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Tough Cookie 256 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-19-05, 12:38 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Shawna's Firing" If Trump disagrees with the PM's decision, he usually just fires the PM Which I usually find enjoyable because then you can just sit there and say idjit! Look what you did to yourself! Siggie Courtesy of tribelphyl! And that's the way the cookie crumbles   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 11-18-05, 04:59 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Shawna's Firing" >If Trump disagrees with the PM's >decision, he usually just fires >the PM > >Which I usually find enjoyable because >then you can just sit >there and say idjit! Look >what you did to yourself! >And that's the way the cookie >crumbles While I agree with S's firing, this thing about the Donald firing the PM for not bringing the culprit into the boardroom is just not true. He did not fire Rebecca. He EXPRESSLY told her to bring Toral back in and she refused. Point blank! And yet she's still in contention for his apprentice. So I agree with the original poster -- Martha, LIKE DONALD, changes the rules at their own whims and discretion!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Sues 585 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 10-19-05, 10:05 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Shawna's Firing" hhmmm...somehow I don't think she's going to shoppig discount anytime soon....   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

EnfanTerrible 1239 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 11-03-05, 09:13 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Shawna's Firing" Shawn is formulaic, non-original and annoying. I was glad to see her go.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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