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"Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
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"Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
I don't normally watch this show because I cannot stand Martha, but I tivoed last nights episode and scanned through it because I make wedding cakes and wanted to see what they would come up with... I don't know where in the world Martha is coming from, but little "cupcakes" for high end clients doesn't work! They are cheesy and people who are going to pay for a wedding cake starting at $600 are not going to want little cupcakes. I thought the team that made the oval, off centered cake was incredible! If I'm not mistaken, they were the team that lost, right??? I thought it was a beautiful cake and looked very good. I'm wondering why it had to be "pink" though? You can make frosting and fondant in whatever colors you want so why couldn't you make it in blue or purple or whatever? That seems a little crazy. Martha tells them they should tell the bride why when the rest of her wedding is blue why she should buy a pink cake? Hmmm, another reason I don't like Martha. All she care's about is profits, she cares nothing about the people buying her products. It's all about the bride and I know when I got married I wasn't going to go with a colored cake that wasn't in my wedding colors already. DUMB!

Glad her show is tanking... I wish she would have stayed in prison... I'll stop ranting now before it gets ugly!


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes ARnutz 10-06-05 1
   RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes RealityMom 10-06-05 4
 RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes kathliam 10-06-05 2
 RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes Tough Cookie 10-06-05 3
 RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes foonermints 10-06-05 5
 RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes Jadis 10-06-05 6
   RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes echo4 10-07-05 7
 RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes mysticwolf 10-07-05 8
   RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes DonnaLynn 10-07-05 9
 RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes lydia 10-12-05 10
 RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes EnfanTerrible 11-03-05 11

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10-06-05, 09:41 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
I liked the pink cake too! ...and you're right! There is no reason the color couldn't be changed for each individual wedding. It would've been so simple.

I didn't even watch the whole episode because I was flipping back and forth between this and Nanny 911, but I think I'm done with this show. It's nothing but a trying to be "kinder and gentler" knockoff of Trump's show and it's not working at all. This show sucks!



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4. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
It's too bad that Trista and Ryan aren't renewing their vows. I know that Trista would have loved the cake just as it was and been the one sale. I absolutely didn't understand how the sellers didn't just say that this cake is just a sample and if the happy couple bring a swatch from the bridesmaids' dresses, etc, then the cake would be a custom-made one, with a coordinated ribbon just for them.
I thought the conference room meeting was a really good one. I admire Martha for actually looking at who was most responsible for the team's loss and overriding the PM and bringing those people back. I don't know if she didn't take the PM more to task because he's so young and might have questioned him more about his choices if he were a decade older and more experienced. Alexis continues to add zilch to this show.


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2. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
I'm wondering why it had to be "pink" though? You can make frosting and fondant in whatever colors you want so why couldn't you make it in blue or purple or whatever?

I didn't understand this either. Don't all cake decorators offer to do their cakes in the colors you choose? Shawn, who was doing to selling, so obviously did not believe in her product, it never occurred to her to offer to change the color as a selling point. That's called marketing. Jim (?) griped after that 'you can't sell a pink Hummer unless you find the one person who wants a pink Hummer' (paraphrased). Well, that's why they make the thing in different colors. Neither Martha nor Alexis mentioned they should offer to change the color either. Alexis made a comment about talking the bride into buying a pink cake to compliment her blue color scheme?!?

This is the first entire episode I've watched. Matchstick is a train wreck.

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3. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
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Reasons why I watch the show:

1. Its something I can share with the girls

2. I'm waiting for Martha to have a melt down

3. I'm waiting for Match stick to be down to two members.

As for those cakes I have to say I loved the non-pink one, but not just for the colour, the different shape layers were appealing and the close up designs I quite loved.


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>I wish she would have stayed in prison<

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6. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
I have to agree on the colors along with everyone here - how easy to at least change the ribbon color or the base cake color to ivory or what not...

But I also thought - why not make a deal with one of the chefs at the culinary institute - tell them you want to offer custom cake design for an additional fee ($100 - $500 or whatever!)

What a great thing to offer. I would have made 3 different smaller designs and told people that we offered everything under the sun, or one of these three stock designs. Probably unrealistic with their timeline - but that's the way I would have gone.

Everyone wants things to be exclusive for a wedding, you don't want the same cake as every other girl, you'll pay a little more for something personalized...

Just my 2 cents..

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7. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
Really? I'm glad I wasn't trying to sell it. I don't care what color it was....Martha made a good point at the begining about asymetrical cakes (1 out of how many in the catalogues/ magazines she had in front of her). I disagree with her conclusion: it wasn't the salemanship, the design didn't have mass appeal. It would be an appropriate cake for 7-8 year old girl for her birthday: a barbie or unicorn match perfectly on top.
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8. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-05 AT 01:57 AM (EST)

I, too, wondered about the color involved. But, from what I gathered, that was completely Shawna's choice in marketing. The other team offered different cake flavors, and said they could choose larger or smaller, different tier layers. Their cake was a summary sample of what could be done.

Shawna, when asked, said they could do the cake in a smaller size oval, but that the number of tiers and the color pink was not negotiable. Shawna was also the one that talked to the celebrity cake decorator that told her that pink was the "in" color.

Don't really think this was anything other than a monumental marketing mistake.

Edited to say that I think the whole apologist thing from Alexis & (possibly) Martha about how to fit a pink theme with a blue theme was just a potential lesson on how they "might" have marketed something that couldn't be changed. Don't, in any way, think they thought the unchangeability was okay.

I was never a Martha watcher or supporter until she went to jail. That was a travesty of justice & a waste of my tax dollars, imho.


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9. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-05 AT 09:20 AM (EST)

When I got married I shopped all over town for a wedding cake. The town I grew up in had a bakery that made the absolute best cakes, pastries and such. Well they were famous for their wedding cakes. Living there my whole life and going to several weddings over the years, I tasted my share of Tosi's wedding cakes. Since I moved down south and got married down here, that dream went down the toilet... I went to pretty much every place in town and in the end, it didn't come down to price but to what flexibility the baker offered me. Not only did she let me take an element from this cake and an element from that cake, but because I had a fairly small wedding (50 guests) but wanted a "grand" cake, she made 3 of the tiers "fake" so it looked like I had a lot more cake than I actually did... When a bride looks for her perfect cake, she should have complete control with imagination being the limit to what can be done. When they decided to make the cake "pink only" they made a huge mistake! I make wedding cakes! It takes the same amount of time to make blue fondant as it does pink, same for frosting. They really needed a baker on that team... Regardless, the cake itself was beautiful! I didn't think "kids birthday" at all. I wouldn't be surprised if people started asking for the "Pink Apprentice Cake"...

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10. "RE: Martha Stewart Wedding Cakes"
I thought that oval cake was one of the dumbest wedding cakes I've ever seen, and there are few in that high end market who want pink ribbons and trim. The cake looked like an Easter bonnet to me. The clients had virtually no control over the cake (since most thought the pink looked stupid), no variety of cake flavors, nothing else to choose from since the cake just didn't fly as a wedding was idiotic from a marketing point of view.

The fact of the matter is, most brides and grooms have that 'traditional' wedding cake design in mind, with a pretty traditional shape. Matchstick sold no cakes because the stupid thing didn't even look like a wedding cake! Excel's cake was gorgeous and had good salespersons acting like professionals. Matchstick had a bunch of persons making meek attempts, looking pained, trying to sell a cake even they wouldn't buy themselves and didn't believe in. Finally, the "fake it" comment made her sound dishonest and no employer wants to wonder whether the employee can be trusted. Meanwhile, the boardroom deal was a personal vendetta, and even Trump won't stand for that!

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LAST EDITED ON 11-03-05 AT 09:12 AM (EST)

I think they made them stick to the color so they couldn't sell more cakes by changing the design to suit each customer. I agree it was an artistically beautiful cake, but after having DJ'd wedding receptions for many years, it's my impression that while couples will look at cutting-edge ideas, when it comes time to decide, they'll bow to convention.


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