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"Ty the Sore Loser"
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08-31-05, 10:48 PM (EST)
 
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1. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
Well it kind of irked me but then I wasn't sure what he meant for sure. Was he saying that white people didn't vote for him because he was black or was he saying that black people didn't support his kind of music and therefore he didn't get the support he felt he deserved?
If he thinks white people didn't vote for him, I beg to differ. He was one of my very favorites and I voted for him many times. I even managed to get over my aversion to that funky hairdo. That was no small feat since I am a middle aged white woman!
Personally I was disgusted that JD didn't get the boot! I thought his song was very UNDER WHELMING!
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09-01-05, 12:42 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I just wanted to say that I am very disappointed, insulted and disgusted with what Ty had to say at the end of Wednesday's show.
I was one of the thousands believing he should lead the band. It was between him and J.D. (and I am from Canada) but once I got to see J.D.'s "it's all about me" attitude - he was not in the running anymore.
Ty was mad he was in the bottom 3 - 3 times? What about Suzie? She was in the bottom 3 - 2 or 3 times - even when she put on a kick ##### performance. Was that because she is a WOMEN?? There was no other reason for it???
Ty was kicked off because he sang the WRONG words (twice)!! Just ask Brandon how singing the wrong words (or forgetting them) can get you kicked off.
Ty insults his competitors (friends) by basically saying they DON'T have any SOUL because they are white. Then trying to cover up with 'we all have our own thing'. He is fine with doing that - but when he gets kicked off he has to insult INSX and others???
"You can't always get what you want" Ty - you sang it yourself. "But you just might find, you get what you need". Maybe this is what you need - you were seen all around the world - now you can start a career where people see and like you for who YOU are - and not in the 'shadow' of a rock star they are replacing.
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08-31-05, 11:09 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
Couldn't agree more. Ty seemed like a good egg, but then he ill-advisedly implies that they didn't pick him because he's black! Apparently, they've already had Terence Trent D'Arby front a few of their shows, so oops, there goes that theory. And of all the places where racism really doesn't seem to be a barrier, it's the pop music industry. What a bizarre claim, and way to shoot yourself in the foot for potential record deals down the road.
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08-31-05, 11:18 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
Oh....now I get it....he meant blacks. I thought he meant horse-faced showgirls.
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08-31-05, 11:49 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
You could be right Hauntedone - could Ty have been referrring to his feminine leaning as the reason for losing !!!
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09-01-05, 00:58 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
As the one black person watching this show, I can tell you that Ty didn't mean that black people didn't vote for him because they aren't into his kind of music. And he wasn't calling the band racist. There is only so long they can keep saving him if the public isn't into him. And I think he understands that. I think he was trying to make a point about why the public isn't into him. He meant that the viewers (mostly white, I would guess) weren't open to the idea of having a black lead singer for one of their favorite Aussie bands. It's almost not even calling them racist as much as saying that they are kind of set in their ways and when they see a black singer, they want him to be singing soul music or rap. Black people and rock music are not exactly synonomous. And people aren't progressive enough to see that he could bring a whole new sound to the group. That said, I was hoping Ty would go home tonight. I'm trying to pick a lead singer for a band I liked very much just the way they were and I don't want them to make a drastic departure from their old stuff. So maybe I'm one of the folks he's talking about -- so it's not just white folks! It's sad, but that's life. But folks, can we PLEEEEAAAASSSEEE get rid of JD next??? I beg of you!
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09-01-05, 12:57 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
You know, it was really unfair of him to say that. How in the world does he know why people voted for others and not him?? And it was INXS who got rid of him, not the public.
People were probably voting for who sang the best, and he is using that so he does not have to admit that his performances were not good enough.
Just because he was in the bottom three did not mean he had to go home - why he went home was because he sang the wrong song title "twice" as he was told.
Soul or no soul, you sing the song incorrectly in front of the band you want to be a part of...you are going to be tossed.
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09-01-05, 02:11 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I am not a big fan of TY, but the color of his skin was not a factor in it at all. He is a good singer but I personally didn't take to his personality. I think as a rock performer he was a bit too theatrical and rock fans don't need that if we did we would go to a Brittney Spears concert lol. Maybe some white people have a hard time visualizing black people singing rock but is that really their fault no one said hey go sing rap or soul, but I honestly don't believe it was even a factor. But all in all it did make me roll my eyes when he made the comment whether it meant black people weren't voting for him or white people weren't but I did feel for the guy because he did want the spot as INXS lead singer and it was hard for me to watch someone want something so bad and practically break down in disappointment.
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09-01-05, 08:40 AM (EST)
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18. "I believe" |
If that had not been Ty's third time in the bottom three, Jordis would have been sent home.
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09-01-05, 01:08 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: I believe" |
I believe that just because he was in the bottom 3 for the third time really did not mean much - but him singing the title of the song WRONG, TWICE was what got him kicked off.
He should remember that.
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09-01-05, 08:34 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I was so disappointed with Ty for that comment & I kinda took offense to it. I never saw Ty as the black contestant, I saw him as a great performer & voted for him in the beginning weeks, along with other faves I had. I had no doubt Ty could walk off the show last night & land a contract BUT I have to say that I think his "people don't see me as a rocker, because I'm black" mentality will hurt him. Ty needs to get the chip off his shoulder & realize where his talents lie & pursue it. First of all Ty should have been happy to make it to the top 6 & realize that now that it is down to the cream of the crop of the contestants, he should be proud to have made it this far & not hurt & angry. Second, he should NOT have taken it personally being in the bottom 3, because this is a contest to front INXS & no one has ever told him he wasn't extremely talented. He just isn't the best of the remaining 6 to front INXS. 
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09-02-05, 10:59 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
<All of his other performances had too much "Las Vegas show" Weltek - you've put your finger on what bothered me about Ty's performances. He was always so aware he was on stage. He was performing, not becoming one with the band. I dunno - it's one of those stage presence "IT" factors that he was missing. He just didn't command my attention the way Marty, Susie, and Mig do. I still think he's very talented. He's just not right for INXS -for Ty, it was more about Ty than INXS. Thank you - I haven't been able to verbalize all that before. 
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09-01-05, 09:52 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
Come on Sherpa! If Ty had no soul than who did. he by far had the most soul........BY A MILE.
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09-01-05, 12:41 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
My initial thoughts on this were 'oh no please don't pull the race card Ty'. I was fuming. Ready to come on here today to post about 'poor pitiful Ty and that chip on his shoulder' and how wrong he is. After reading this thread and in particular Queenbee's view on his comments I have given it some more thought to see if I should be giving him the benefit of the doubt but after considering further I still think he was using the 'race card'. People will interpret his comments in different ways so I don't think we'll all come to a agreement here. He has made reference to race in past weeks. If I recall correctly he made the minority comments back when he did the Bob Marley song. I don't mean to offend anybody and I have no issues with any race but I get the impression that Ty does have a that chip on his shoulder and is fooling himself into believing he was voted out because he is black. When he performed at the very beginning with Living Color's Cult of Personality I was like 'hell yeah' that is a powerful singer and performer that would totally make INXS an interesting band. He stood out more than others. I think of other black artists in the rock world and there are not enough but the ones that are there are powerful singers. Lenny Kravitz puts on one hell of a rock show and has some killer songs. After going to one of his gigs right after Are You Gonna Go My Way hit the airwaves I was blown away and went out the very next day to buy myself a Flying V. One of my favorite bands of the last few years has been Sevendust. Man can Lajon Witherspoon sing and he sure brings a different dimension to that band. Personally I now think Ty had his own agenda for being on this show. I don't think he really wanted to be in INXS. On stage he sang with this big huge smile but when you look into his eyes I saw something else that I couldn't put my finger on. It was like he had this resigned look of failure in his eyes that maybe he felt like everyone was conspiring against him. His glances over to the INXS guys always looked like a supsicious look and for a moment the smile would be gone and then in an instant he'd be back focusing on his act. I really don't think he has as much soul as he tries to make out. I look back at his performances and the things he has said and I feel like he has been a phony and not true to himself. The fact is that the performances just weren't strong enough and were not as heartfelt and soulful as he keeps saying. They were all just an act. I know every one of them put on an act when they hit the stage but some are more honest and natural than others. I may be totally off base with this and if so I apologize but that's the thoughts I have about Ty this day. Queenbee your take on it is a possibility and I would like to think you are right. I loved Ty's mohawk and his image. At the beginning I thought he was the front runner and after the first couple of weeks I would have picked him over the others but at the end of the day I just don't think he was a strong enough singer or the dynamic performer we all would like to see.
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09-01-05, 02:20 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Welcome Andrew" |
If race is the issue, why is Jordis still around? Ty should have taken a lesson from her and rocked the dreads instead of those ridiculous liberty spikes. They were distracting and not at all flattering. That, and his tendency to vibrato got on my nerves. He's talented but they all are and at this point, everything counts. (And I agree- PLEASE don't vote for J.D. anymore!!)
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09-01-05, 09:54 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I suppose him crying when he got eliminated was an act too.
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09-01-05, 03:23 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
What kills me about last night and his comment was that he is acting as though he is the only one that has a hard time getting votes. He isn't the man for the job, personally he scares the hell out of me with his tongue and all. His eyes look devilish, and he isn't meant for INXS, IMO. What about the women trying to fill a mans shoes in the rock world? His performances were good, YES in the broadway world. He isn't a rocker, he is a performer with a bad hairstyle, who can sing and sing well, but a rocker, NO! I was hoping and praying that either JD or he would be the one to go.
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09-01-05, 06:23 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
OH i agree.. i am sick of the race card being played all the time when something doesn't go their way. doesn't he think the others had good weeks??? did he ever consider that when he does perform it was like look at me not look at me AND the band..... I hated his hair!!!!
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48. "WARNING" |
Criticizing your fellow posters is a violation of our community guidelines. You are welcome to express your opinion of the show, as long as you can do it without criticizing other posters in the process.
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09-02-05, 10:37 AM (EST)
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49. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser?????" |
I totally agree that racism is alive and well today and as a white person, I have NO IDEA what it's like to think (or be made to think) about my skin color everyday.But that doesn't mean that racism was what was holding Ty back or was the only thing or even the main thing. Look at Marty (so white he's practically albino.) Read through back posts here - Marty used to be a strong leader then many, many people started getting sick of his all-grunge-all-the-time. It was oft said he should be trying out for Nirvana, not INXS. INXS even came out and told him they were having a hard time seeing him with the band. What did he do? A little FU to INXS (still screaming) then paid the price (bottom 3) then knocked it out of the ballpark blending grunge with INXS in "Don't Change." Then really stretching himself and trying a different style, dropping his screaming altogether if only for a song. So, whether or not Ty is soul or isn't soul (by the way, does soul mean you really feel what the singer is singing? If so, then I haven't felt Ty since No Woman, No Cry.) I mean, he says he soul, the band says he is, so I guess I'll just have to accept it. But the question is: Is INXS soul, or more importantly - do they wanna be? I know someone told me earlier that I don't know INXS at all if I don't know they are soul, but I swear, I don't really hear it. I'm not their biggest fan so I don't know the whole catalog, but I woulda never called them that. Just like the question could be are or wanna be grunge?
Or power rock/belting it out? - Deanna
Or country rock? - Brandon Why is it that they can say to 8 other people - your style and our style don't mix and it's accepted but they can't say that to Ty? And don't you think what they say is reflected in the voting? Ty outlasted many, many performers.
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09-02-05, 02:08 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser?????" |
You people are so trifling. He played the race card for good reason, how many people vote based on color?"Really??? I think not many at all. I know 'color' never influenced my voting. With most ppl, it's all about the performance and let's face it.....Ty's performances were lacking.Maybe if he performed liked a rock n roll singer he would have been appreciated as such. He performed like a Broadway performer and was labeled as such. Black, white, yellow or green----doesn't matter. "He was better than the other male performers but let's say playing the race card this time was fair."
Your opinion and you're welcome to it BUT in most ppl's opinions, he was NOT better than the other male performers. IMHO, he was not near as good as Marty or Mig.
Also since when did todays white people ever understand the race card and how its played against people of color We've gotten to understand it a lot. Since MOST times, it is the response to a minority not getting what they want. So many times, in fact, that it makes me ill.
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09-02-05, 05:05 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser?????" |
He performed like a broadway performer, I think you are getting him mixed up with JD. Do you know anything about broadway performers? As far as all about performance you don't want to admit it pale face types but color does play a part in the way you react to folks.
As a person of color who has gone to school in perdominately white schools and is well traveled I know for a fact white people tend to not know how to act around black people. We get subjected to black speak, as if we can only understand some broken wanna be ghetto slang, we get this along with the so called I'm the hip white guy wanting to be considered down handshake, but the asian next to me gets the hey dude, with the regular handshake.
You should see the surprised looks on your face when you see our music collections and there isn't a stitch of R&B or hiphop.
Let's face it we are hard on our own harder than you would think and when I saw Ty initally I was like what is this brutha doing? Then he was up there acting like a very non fake rock and roll guy. He was not a R&B guy but a rock and roll guy. We know our own.
If he sucked I would say hey bruthaman you stunk but he was as good if not better than the two white boys remaining.
As far as minorities not getting what we want. I think when you as a majority class have always gotten what you want without batting an eye and always blaming your forefathers or saying it wasn't me that is what makes me ill. Then all of a sudden you want to come new like it wasn't my generation,yet you keep perpetuating the bs.
The new folks of color aren't falling for the trip anymore, we see through the trifling vail.
It all comes down.
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09-03-05, 07:48 AM (EST)
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58. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser?????" |
Muffin Man, I cannot claim to know what it is like living as a person of color, but……Ty sank his own ship. Reason #1…The spike hair thing does not appear to be the “look” INXS is looking for…check back to the times he braided it back how was he was received by the band, regardless of performance, compared to the times he had it spiked and they way he was received. Black or white, he was asked to tone it down on the hair and he didn’t. Reason #2..the tongue thing..need I say more…. Reason #3….Spoke of how he wanted to bring “Soul” to the band….Well, last time I checked, INXS was not a “SOUL” band. Reason #4….He sounded AWESOME singing more of the “soulful” type music. I think he will be well accepted as a “Rock Singer” in a DIFFERENT band, not INXS. So, the public is not bashing him for being a person of color, he was “let go” for being not the right man for the job. It had nothing to do with Race, Color, ethnicity or sexual preference. I am sickened by the way “Everything” that happens today is blamed on one of the above criteria! Sometimes, there are other reasons. Every day people of color as well as whites get “let go” from a job because they are simply “not Right or not qualified” for the position. Ty has a great music future ahead of him. I am sure he will do well. ~~~Stepping down from my soapbox now to go back and sit quietly……
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09-02-05, 02:31 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I'm with you there. I was hoping J D would get kicked off. I haven't liked him from the start. He thinks he's better than anyone else.
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09-02-05, 06:37 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
Ty is really lucky he isn't FAT! If he had been FAT no matter how great he sang he wouldn't have even made the show!
That is the prejudice I live with. As do apparently 60 percent of the US but we still don't like others that are fat!
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09-02-05, 10:39 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
Yes, Ty's comments were uncalled for.All along he has been saying how he wanted to add soul to the INXS mix. He knew that was not what INXS was all about. So why was he surprised when he was eliminated as not being right for INXS? A little soul might make for a brand spanking new INXS, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. However, INXS wants rock, not soul. That is not racism. I liked Ty, but he has never been my favorite as lead singer for INXS. In another setting, with another band - I'd sit up and listen. Just not with this band.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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09-03-05, 10:15 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
<Also, since you don't know me I'll let the pale face comment dropHi bravegirl. I didn't make the pale face comment. I think you meant to reply to someone else, not sure who.
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09-03-05, 11:54 AM (EST)
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61. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I agree with everything you wrote except the rooting for JD part, Nash... using the race card as an excuse wasn't cool at all.. and more than a little whiney. Shame on Ty
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09-03-05, 11:57 AM (EST)
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62. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
Ty should just learn to keep his mouth shut. The more he talks and does interviews the worse he sounds. And that is not good for his future career. He keeps going on about it being about race. And now he is even insulting MiG in his interviews. Little MiG who usually tries to get along with everyone. MiG who was so upset when Ty was booted. Now Ty is telling everyone that MiG doesn't deserve to win. I think it would bother Ty if MiG won because he considers them both Theatah People. And if they boot Ty and let MiG win then Ty can't even use that excuse. Oh Ty, please just shut up.
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09-04-05, 12:25 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I don't remember exactly which interview it was. Ty has done a few since being booted. And he was saying that MiG will never win because he didn't think MiG had the talent. I thought it was a slam considering how much MiG liked Ty and we never heard MiG insulting Ty. If Ty wants to think that, fine. But he doesn't need to say it in an interview. But I think Ty feels part of the reason he was booted was because he was too theatrical. So it would really bother him if MiG (also theatrical) then won.
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09-07-05, 02:35 AM (EST)
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69. "RE: Ty: Zero Charisma, Lots of Teeth and Tongue" |
Hi, new poster here. Have been following this discussion and want to add my 2-cents.First, to clarify (since people seem to care about these things): I'm not black or from the U.S. Second, I think the basic thing is that this is a rock show about picking the singer of a rock band. From its origins (which we all acknowledge are in the blues, soul music) rock has been about invoking 'feelings': anger, sadness, and, let's be blunt, sexuality, among others. We generally call this ability to invoke feelings 'charisma' - and you either got it, or you don't. Third, I never voted for Ty. I didn't vote for him for the same reason that I haven't voted for JD (an apparent fan favourite)- he didn't 'do it for me'. If Lenny or Jimi were on the show, they would get my vote. Why? Because both of these guys were hot!! They made women - white, black, brown, want to take their clothes off (hmmm ... let me get back on track here). I don't doubt that discriminatory attitudes play a role in sexual preference - that's the nature of preference. Speaking for myself, however, I couldn't care less what colour the dude was, as long as he was able to invoke something in me. He didn't. While other people talk about tongues and smiling through songs, that's just their way of saying that he 'didn't do it for them' either. He was fiercely talented, but not likely to lead a teenage rebellion or to make middle-aged women shuck their clothes. (For the record: I've never asked a black person why they don't smile - is this a common experience in the US??).
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09-09-05, 04:37 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Ty: Zero Charisma, Lots of Teeth and Tongue" |
>Oh and thank god you never
>have asked ablack person why
>they aren't smiling.
>Is it common well I currently
>don't live in the US
>but let's just say women
>have come up to me
>and asked why aren't I
>smiling. Cat it seems like
>in the US the warm
>fuzzy feeling white folks get
>when around black folks comes
>from black people smiling kinda
>back to the slave- and
>early part of the 20
>century days, keeping black folks
>in their place.
>Its a north american thing, and
>probably a brit thing too.
>I find this to be incredibly insulting, especially coming from someone who doesn't live in North America, let alone the US. You have no idea what you are talking about and you certainly don't know me. I resent your characterizing me, my fellow citizens, and our neighbors in North America as nothing but racists. It exists (as apparently, it does outside the US), but most Americans have no desire to "keep black folks in their place." You really should get to know something about us before you make pronouncements like that. 
I'm such a slut for the blues.
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09-09-05, 04:57 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: Ty: Zero Charisma, Lots of Teeth and Tongue" |
I can understand why you'd be upset because he is making a gross generalization about north americans but while it is wrong to say we are NOTHING BUT racists, as a group, we are racists (along with lots of other things.) Look at how our GOVERNMENT responded to New Orleans. We're not only racist, we're classist, sexist and ageist. We have to own that. We have to know it still plays a part in decisions made in this land. Not every individual in this country is, but as a society, we certainly are. How many non-whites are on the major TV networks? How come men get to be fat & bald and still be leading men but women have to be young & pretty? My point is, I think he does know what he's talking about in that he has experienced racism. No, he doesn't know everyone here. I'm not sure if I'd even know what "most Americans" think. Being liberal myself, I'd like to think they are not overtly racist and certainly the people in my life aren't, but there's a lot of this country I don't know.
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09-09-05, 04:43 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Ty: Zero Charisma, Lots of Teeth and Tongue" |
"Is it common well I currently don't live in the US but let's just say women have come up to me and asked why aren't I smiling."Maybe they were hitting on you and they're bad at it. Maybe they say that to a lot of people. It's practically a staple of Dear Abby/Ann Landers/Miss Manners - people writing in to say they're bugged by someone telling them to smile when they don't feel like it and wanting a snappy comeback. I'm not saying there isn't rapant racism: Being watched as a customer in a store. A woman holding her purse tighter as she passes you on the street. Getting charged a higher interest rate. Most importantly: Slow gov't response to the hurricane. Maybe the Ty thing and the smile thing are not examples. It sounds like there's nothing anyone can say to convince you it wasn't or at least to consider the possibility it wasn't. I mean have you read the petty, personal, judgmental comments that have been written about ALL of the singers?????
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09-11-05, 10:06 AM (EST)
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79. "RE: Ty: Zero Charisma, Lots of Teeth and Tongue" |
I don't doubt that discriminatory attitudes play a role in sexual preference - that's the nature of preference. Speaking for myself, however, I couldn't care less what colour the dude was, as long as he was able to invoke something in me.
Cat -
Just a quick "well done". I agree that sometimes our personal preferences get in the way of our judgement of others. A hottie is a hottie and thank goodness we get the opportunity to freely discuss it (...and see them). Don't want to loose track of the importance of the choice we have to see hotties of all shapes/sizes/colors, without regard to facial expression. Forgive me, but if you don't like "my" type, well, more for me. peace whim
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09-09-05, 04:54 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I find some of the more recent replies interesting. I thought TY was pretty good, but in no way did I ever see him as the lead singer of INXS. Furthermore, I mean come on, TY's facial expressions were frankly goofy, . . . right out of a stage performance, which of course makes sense, since he is a stage performer. TY had a moderately successful band that put out a couple of records. He will be fine, and better suited to do his own thing if you ask me. As for race, get off of it already. TY's downfall was no more about race than any of the girls downfall was about sex. By the way, where is the outrage about Jordis getting the boot last week? Her father is African-American.
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09-10-05, 06:37 PM (EST)
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77. "RE: Ty the Sore Loser" |
I think it is sad to try to break the winner down to white or black or Aussie. I am a middle aged white lady and my first choice was Ty. I loved his singing even though I hated the hair style. I also love Marty and Mig even though I also hate their hair styles. I do admit that I have prejudicial reactions at times regarding many things, not just color and I think black, hispanic, oriental, people all have most of the same prejudices. Many times this is something that we learned growing up but many of us have come a long way since then and I think if others didn't beat the situation to death it would be less of an issue. My first thought is that if you live in America your an AMERICAN..Period. Not Anglo, Not African, etc. Just an American. That is a great place to start. The problem is that in arguing over race it only takes the divide further apart and just like arguing over the bible we can all make a valid point.
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