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"Episode 8 Discusion"
Lets discuss it here. Lets see what Ramesey does too the peeps this week. The drama begins at 9.


UL will always suck in my book!

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 RE: Episode 8 Discusion universityofkentuckyrocks 07-18-05 1
 RE: Episode 8 Discusion universityofkentuckyrocks 07-18-05 2
   RE: Episode 8 Discusion volsfan 07-18-05 3
   RE: Episode 8 Discusion seahorse 07-18-05 4
       RE: Episode 8 Discusion volsfan 07-18-05 5
 RE: Episode 8 Discusion seahorse 07-18-05 6
   RE: Episode 8 Discusion volsfan 07-18-05 7
       RE: Episode 8 Discusion seahorse 07-18-05 9
 RE: Episode 8 Discusion volsfan 07-18-05 8
 RE: Episode 8 Discusion seahorse 07-18-05 10
 RE: Episode 8 Discusion universityofkentuckyrocks 07-18-05 11
 I must admit volsfan 07-18-05 12
   RE: I must admit seahorse 07-18-05 13
       RE: I must admit volsfan 07-18-05 14
           RE: I must admit brvnkrz 07-19-05 16
               RE: I must admit seahorse 07-19-05 20
               RE: I must admit volsfan 07-19-05 23
                   RE: I must admit brvnkrz 07-19-05 28
                       Agree universityofkentuckyrocks 07-19-05 29
   RE: I must admit universityofkentuckyrocks 07-18-05 15
       RE: Elsie should not have gone home... DonnaLynn 07-19-05 17
           RE: Elsie should not have gone home... Cyndimaus 07-19-05 18
           RE: Elsie should not have gone home... ginger 07-19-05 19
               RE: Elsie should not have gone home... RollDdice 07-19-05 24
                   RE: Elsie should not have gone home... bystander 07-19-05 25
                       RE: Elsie should not have gone home... Bebo 07-19-05 26
                           RE: Elsie should not have gone home... ginger 07-19-05 27
                           RE: Elsie should not have gone home... goldie1000 07-20-05 31
                               RE: Elsie should not have gone home... bystander 07-20-05 32
                                   RE: Elsie should not have gone home... CattyChat 07-20-05 33
 RE: Episode 8 Discusion Pretty_Kitty 07-19-05 21
   RE: Episode 8 Discusion LackofGrace 07-19-05 22
 RE:Aaargh *klunk* foonermints 07-19-05 30
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1. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
Recarp.
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2. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
They are each told too make a dish fom leftovers in 15 minuites. Jessica mad Beef Stew. Ralph made some type of meat. Andrew made Chicken w/bones on pasta. Elsie mad Chicken Soup. Where is everybody?
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3. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
Elsie wins! I knew it when said she was making chicken soup.
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4. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
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Elsie beats the others with a chicken soup

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Rut ro! Elsie is going to be targeted by the other three.

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6. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
Elsie surprised Chef Ramsey with her soup. The others were jealous.
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7. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
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Elsie is going to be on TV! This is way kewl!

ETA: The others are watching on TV!

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9. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
Boy are they jealous
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8. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
Ells is in trouble!
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10. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
Chef is moving the peeps from station to station all night. Elsie is in real trouble.
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11. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
Nobody wants to help her.
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12. "I must admit"
I think Elsie is one of my favorite reality TV peeps ever!
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13. "RE: I must admit"
Yes but she deserved to go home tonight.
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14. "RE: I must admit"
I don't disagree with you at all. I just found that she grew on me and I found myself pulling for her big time. I really liked her.
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16. "RE: I must admit"
I'm with you, Doc. She is probably one of my favorites too. But I disagree about her deserving to go home. Yes, she did poorly, I agree. But Chef said that they are a team and I think the other three left her out there to sink. This is the first week that I disliked Michael. He has been helpful and level headed throughout and I think he lost that last night. I know it's a competition but he disappointed me. I think Jessica needs to go. I don't think she can carry a restaurant. I think Michale, Ralph and Elsie could. I'm rooting for Michael just because I dislike Ralph so much.
Sorry to see Elsie go tonight.

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20. "RE: I must admit"
The bottom line is that even Elsie thought she should be the one going home. I agree that she did well for someone who had no formal training or experience in a restaurant. It was obvious that Chef Ramsey liked her a lot. He was more glowing in his appraisal of her than for anybody previously. At this point, you could not expect the others to go out of their way to help Elsie.


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23. "RE: I must admit"
Hey Knockers, I think the thing that did Elsie in (or one of the reasons) is that when Chef asked her if she thought the others supported her that night she said yes. I think had she said no Chef would have gone off on them big time and Jessica would have gone home. I guess I have to be for Michael now
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28. "RE: I must admit"
I agree. It was noble of her to stand up for them, but agree that had she called them out she probably would not have gone home.


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I definitely have to go with Knockers comment that she would have not gone if she didn't stand for the peeps.


UL will always suck in my book!


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15. "RE: I must admit"
Damn I was pulling for her too.
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17. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
I was one of Elsie's biggest haters up until last night. Last night she was totally bulldozed over. The fact that the 3 sniveling brats in Hell's Kitchen besisdes her were so upset that she won really ticks me off. There's nothing I hate more than a sore loser. The fact that they all ganged up on her is not right. A kitchen is all about team-work.

I really did like Michael until last night as well. His stock went so down in my book last night.

Don't even let me get started on Ralph. If Ramsey gives him a kitchen, I don't know what I'll do but I'll be pissed!!!

Jessica is a little baby who can't stand the heat in the kitchen.

Right now it should be between Ralph and Michael, but throughout the whole show, Michael has been much stronger and consistant than Ralph...

Oh, and what was with Jessica getting all ticked off about Elsie's soup? "You know, I really should have won Ralph. I made a dessert Ralph. My dish looked a lot better Ralph. I'm a crying little baby Ralph" Ugh!!!

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18. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
"There's nothing I hate more than a sore loser. The fact that they all ganged up on her is not right. A kitchen is all about team-work."

I agree. I also was rather upset that Jessica was bragging to Chef that she shouldn't go home cause she did so well on the starters. But Michael and Ralph totally carried her! If they hadn't of helped her she would of crashed just like Elsie!

I could tell that Ramsey picked up on the attitude of the three whiners when he first arrived back with Elsie from her reward. I just wish he would have come down on them a bit more for it since he was really emphasizing team work. And I wish Elsie would of had the guts to tell the truth about not being supported by the others. I guess my thinking is that if they had not helped Jessica as well as her then she should have kept quiet but because they singled her out she should have spoken up. I know their attitude towards her was a big factor in the poor dinner service.

It was good to see how much Ramsey believed in her and I wish she would have taken that to heart and made a little come-back after she returned to the kitchen. But she was way too emotional by that time.

It was interesting to see the reactions of the others after Elsie was asked to leave. Michael looked a little guilty and Jessica was a little hard to read-somewhere between relieved, guilty and smug. Ralph's attitude makes me mad, though. He thinks he's the golden child who deserves the restaurant and noone else does. Personally I think Michael would do better running a restaurant cause he's always noticing when someone needs help and just jumps right in.

Okay, that's my two cents worth stretched out to a dollar.

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19. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
I was pleased to see Elsie go. Nothing personal, but the show appeared to be marching towards a predictable, cookie-cutter Cinderella end. Poor Elsie, never feeling as good as the more experienced gang, winning over Ramsey with her simple homemade soup goodness, while the others snipe and whine, ultimately triumphing blah blah blah.

Now one of the baddies wins. Better tv.



Besides, I think you need to have a really sharp edge to run a restaurant. The first time a vendor snapped at Elsie, she'd cry. And Ramsey's whole babying-of-Elsie thing was getting old.

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24. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
You bring up some good points Ginger, but I really don't see Jessica as stronger than Elsie.

And I don't get the Ralph hating -- he seems the most professional and consistent. He's just decided to stop covering everyone else.


Elsie has a great personality, she'll land on her feet.

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25. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
>And I don't get the Ralph
>hating -- he seems the
>most professional and consistent

That's what I was thinking when he was throwing dishes around the kitchen and whining about never winning a reward.

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26. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
And he really did a good job following directions during the challenge, when they were told to use all of the leftovers and he only used a small percentage of the ingredients.
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27. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
Oh, I don't think anyone DESERVES to win. It's just that Elsie seemed such a foregone conclusion. Until she was gone.



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31. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
Elsie lacks major experience for a restaurant of that level.
She has to be helped by her peers way to much....
She would be more suited for a soup kitchen.
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32. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
She would be more suited for a soup kitchen.


No Soup For You! Elsie!

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33. "RE: Elsie should not have gone home!"
LOL -- I choked on my soup when I saw your post.

I am sticking with my prediction that Ralph wins it all.

My thoughts are that Ramsey "favored" Elsie with wins on a lot of challenges, because he liked & respected her for her determination and efforts. Never in a million years did I think she would or should win -- running a restaurant is tough, tough work -- I knew many chefs & restaurant managers of many restaurants in Philadelphia & not many people are cut out for the TIME & HARDWORK & STRESS of running a good restaurant.

I notice that out of the kitchen, Ramsey seems very nice and easy going to everyone. So, I think he just wanted to reward Elsie for her trying out for this thing and she was like a chef's pet until he had to let her go.

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21. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
I'm REALLY annoyed that Jessica is still there!!! Ralph and Michael DID carry her and that's OK but freezing out Elsie was just childish It makes me ill to think of any of the 3 left winning If Ralph is so great why doesnt he have his own restaurant yet? Michael is Evil (and maybe a little crazy?) and Jessica IS a big whinning baby who doesnt deserve to be there

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22. "RE: Episode 8 Discusion"
I think Ramsey knew the other 3 were ganging up on Elsie and wanted to see how she would handle the pressure. Unfortunately, she cracked. I did like what he said to her at the end though. And hopefully, she will perservere - she has to feel good coming as far as she did.

Ralph drives me nuts! He is the know it all type and I dealt with enough of those to last me a lifetime! I actually had a chef tell me that "women don't belong in a kitchen." I shot back, "hmmm, what was your mom?"

Michael - I was disappointed in him last night, but you know he was pissed that Ramsey didn't like his dish.

Jessica (aka: Little) - yeah, Little backstabber, little liar, little whiner.....can't stand her!

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