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"HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Finally! The real finale. Two ugly dining rooms, two teams who don't really want to support their chef because - well, because they didn't get to the finale, two pretty incompetant chefs. Seems about equal. And then we add in Jen. And, Mattie. And, Jen, again.

Can either of them pull off a win? Does anyone care? Whatever your answers keep the discussion here until the West Coast finishes enduring the agony, too.

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 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 1
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Snidget 07-08-08 2
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Estee 07-08-08 3
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Snidget 07-08-08 4
   RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Estee 07-08-08 7
 Keep the comments coming! PagongRatEater 07-08-08 5
   RE: Keep the comments coming! Snidget 07-08-08 8
       RE: Keep the comments coming! PagongRatEater 07-08-08 10
           RE: Keep the comments coming! momof4inVA 07-09-08 31
   RE: Keep the comments coming! mysticwolf 07-08-08 9
       RE: Keep the comments coming! PagongRatEater 07-08-08 11
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Estee 07-08-08 6
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 12
   RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Estee 07-08-08 15
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 13
 Presenting the importance of prep w... Estee 07-08-08 14
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 16
   RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... PagongRatEater 07-08-08 17
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 18
 The throw-out factor. Estee 07-08-08 19
   NO ONE is as upset with this finale... FOXmePUHLEEZ 07-09-08 30
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 20
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 21
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 22
   RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Estee 07-08-08 25
 Bar? Estee 07-08-08 23
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... mysticwolf 07-08-08 24
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Loree 07-08-08 26
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... geekboy 07-08-08 27
   Agree PagongRatEater 07-08-08 28
 RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Up... Seana 07-09-08 29
 Two Petrozza notes Fishercat 07-10-08 33
   RE: Two Petrozza notes planetjoe 07-13-08 34

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1. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Recrap. Followed by the opening sequence wherin we sooo wish Chef would have just stepped on the lot of them and started over.

Mattie is whining (what else in new) that he doesn't want to be picked last. He gets picked last. Jen is convinced that she's been picked because of what a great leader she is. She knows she was chosen late because neither of them want to be outshone by her in their own kitchen, but that's gonna happen no matter which one chooses her.

Please, someone, anyone, knife that beyotch.

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2. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Jen's ego is still huge, and it seems to have infected Matty while they stood next to each other for a week.
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3. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
And Jen decides this is the perfect time to get a letter of recommendation from Gordon, as long as it doesn't mention her big mouth. Or her big ego. Or, just to get the whole package taken care of, her.

Petrozza's customers may wind up sitting on the floor. Is that a problem?

Plus Matt's brain has gone to that alternate dimension it occasionally slips into, leaving only a vague smell of risotto behind.

Honestly, this may be a contest about who either sabotages last or throws someone out first.

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4. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
So who had under 15 minutes for Matty's psychosis to reappear?
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7. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
I bet all my money on Jen at -15 seconds.
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5. "Keep the comments coming!"
LAST EDITED ON 07-08-08 AT 08:44 PM (EST)

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8. "RE: Keep the comments coming!"
Yikes!
Poor drowned rat!

Ramsey liked both dining areas and had some tweaks for both menus.

Petrozza's is more imaginative but that can backfire. Christina's is pretty basic, but with a bit of flare could be good.

As we open it seems Christina's team has a bit more cohesion and willingness to actually do something approaching work then Petrozza's team.

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10. "RE: Keep the comments coming!"
LAST EDITED ON 07-08-08 AT 08:43 PM (EST)

Can't stand not seeing Matty go nuts!

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31. "RE: Keep the comments coming!"
He's such a baby. Did anyone interview these people before having them compete? He is unhinged talking under his breath like my 13 year old. But I guess that's good drama. I was rotflmao. He's something else!
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9. "RE: Keep the comments coming!"
Poor Rat. Dinner's over now, so I'll try. But, you know sig-pics aren't allowed in ECUT threads. Don't set a bad example. Go edit.
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11. "RE: Keep the comments coming!"
You got it!
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6. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Petrozza's eyebrows are starting to become hypnotic...

Another division of menus. Christina's playing the simple and safe road, while Petrozza's put together some more complicated dishes that his team is very likely to mess up. On the other hand, Christina has Matt, who can make water boil backwards, so that simple and safe road has at least one headbanded pothole in it.

No clear indication of the winner so far, if you don't count the opening credits.

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12. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Thirteen tables constitutes a dinner service. Corey and LouRoss are stepping up. Jen's crowing about the restaurant filling up. Bobby is whinging about the menu being complex, but he's gonna deliver. He doesn't. Petrozza sends it back. Petrozza tells them to feel everything. His second try makes the cut. He's back in charge. A General in his kitchen. Right.
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15. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
A little surprised about the low number of dinners: looks like left-side wasn't stuck with the balcony seats this year.


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13. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Matt tries to "help" LouRoss making salads. His "help" consists of asking how to pile arugula.

Jen's running out of cheese for the frisse salad, Bobby is running out of struedel. Chef threatens to shut down his kitchen since they can't take 2 out of 3 apps off the menu.

Jen complains that no one prepped her statiion properly. That's not her fault. Of course.

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14. "Presenting the importance of prep work."
Petrozza doesn't seem to have given any thought to portion control -- or he's just thrown too many back: take your pick. Either way, he just ran out of ingredients for two of his appetizers within seconds of each other, and Gordon's threatening to shut him down unless he comes up with something in a hurry. 'Let them eat cake' is not an option.

Meanwhile, Louross' enthusiasm about just being here isn't translating to performance. Matt has to help out on appetizers, which means stupid questions start flying, pans begin falling, and food? Stops moving.

So far, it's pretty much like every other night.

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16. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Bobby coughs up the idea of a lobster risotto and it's a hit as a new app. His food starts moving again.

Christina's food starts coming back to the kitchen for being too cold. She forces Matt to move and get the stuff redone properly.

Petrozza's food is now lining up on the pass and isn't getting out. He needs help but doesn't want to ask for help. Ramsay forces it and Ben lends a hand.

Matt is now undercooking fish. She's spending all of her time on him. He tells Chef to "Shut the F up." Chef does have ears.

Petrozza needs an onion ring. Just one. Jen is in charge of onion rings. *snort* He might get it before the night is over. Maybe.

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17. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Did Jen get that letter from Ramsey yet? He just might want to rip it up.
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18. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Petrozza has served 10 tables. Christina has managed 8. Matt couldn't cook a monkfish properly if it came with a pop-out timer. Chef is strongly suggesting that she should throw him out. Of course, he's also strongly suggesting that Petrozza should toss Jen, too.

I think Estee may be right. The winner may be the person that drops their anchor first.

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19. "The throw-out factor."
(As opposed to the usual throw-up factor.) Does anyone think what Gordon's really looking for here is the first chef toss? Both contestants have people they could throw out: Matt can't make fish take heat and Jen's incapable of frying a single onion ring -- and Gordon wants them both to pay for it. Whoever tosses part of their brigade might just win the whole thing right there.
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30. "NO ONE is as upset with this finale as I am, but BOTH P"
and J (Petrozza and Jen) should have made HELL'S KIT CHEN HISTORY and said "GET OUT!!!" TO jEN AND mAT. They had teams behind them and their strongest should have had to "double up." I was so so so very upset with this finale. And, believe it or not, I am the only person in the WORLD or wherever this show broadcasts, who LIKES Jen. But she was CRAP to Petrozza and he should have kicked her ##### out. Prize or not.
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20. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
It wasn't a raw piece of fish. It was cooked perfectly, except for one "technically" raw spot in a crevice of the fish. LOL!
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21. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Both teams finish service. They both think it could be close and they both want to win badly.

Winner will be decided by comment cards and Ramsay's overall observations.

Petrozza doesn't want to win to a kid - not even a very talented kid.

Ramsay says the decision has been sheer agony. No kidding.

He knows they will both go on to great success. Presumably, one will go on to success without becoming the new executive chef.

Maybe. I'm starting to wonder if he makes it a tie based on their different strengths. We already know that they're gonna actually be working under someone else's direction - no matter what their title is.

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22. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Nope. Christina's door opens, Petrozza gets left behind. And Christina proves that Ramsay has taught her how to swear, at least.

Chef consoles Petrozza and he does the gracious loser thing really well.

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25. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Y'know what really hurts? The S.O.B. gave it to us in the opening credits again. Christina brushing the flames away and Petrozza fighting to the end.
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23. "Bar?"
I think we need to toast the last time we'll ever have to see Jen on a television screen. At least until the inevitable murder arrest and conviction.

It's justifiable. The victim said something mean about her cooking.

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24. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Well, there we have it. And, as Ramsay said, it's time to get the F out of Hell's Kitchen. Until next time. Or, until Kitchen Nightmares starts up in the fall.

Meanwhile, Bar, anyone?

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26. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
This was one of the most anticlimatic boring finales. I pretty much knew Christina was winning and didn't care. Nobody this season really impressed me. Just glad it is over.
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27. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Ahhhhhh.....

Disappointing final verdict by Ramsey. I get the feeling he had this one picked prior to the final service.

"Potential"? Petrozza handled everything better than Christina did based one what we saw. Nothing was said about the customer voting cards at all. "easy food" vs. "Challenging food"?

All in all, i am very disappointed. Christina handling the London in Hollywood? Interesting to see how long she lasts there. I feel bad for Petrozza.

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28. "Agree"
If the services were equal, one would think that the nod would go to the more difficult dishes - simple doesn't mean easy in Ramsay's kitchen. Then again, I couldn't see him handing over the London to such a slob in the kitchen.
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29. "RE: HK 4 - Episode 14 East Coast Update Thread"
Well, that was a bit of a surprise. I had thought Petrozza would win. But in hindsight, his big mistakes were:

- food not quite up to par when taste-tested by Ramsay before service.

- ran out of 2 apps (!), which indicates a lack of planning.

- had to rely on Bobby to suggest alternative to lobster app, which indicates a lack of ability to handle pressure.

Congrats to Christina, I guess. I never liked her, though, so this was a bit unsatisfying.

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33. "Two Petrozza notes"
The first one is about the prep and the explanation behind why it seemed he was way behind. From the RTVW Interview

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-louis-petrozza-talks-about-his-hell-kitchen-experience-7401.php

What happened was there was a couple things Ramsay had a problem with. The consistency of the interior of my lobster strudel, it was definitely, definitely justifiable. I understood what he said, he said it was kind of curd a little -- what I did was I made a quiche batter and I cooked it in there and I baked it. He said, "Lou, the consistency's bad." I said, "I'll work on that chef, I understand what you're saying." All of a sudden, all the prep work for my lobster strudel gets thrown right in the garbage and you start over. So now you've got zero prep work done after that and you just spent hours on the stuff -- man hours anyway.

Next thing, my duck was a little overcooked. I had set the timer, I didn't hear the timer -- whatever the case was, I didn't hear it, it didn't go off, whatever. Instead of having 12 minutes left on the timer, I looked at the timer and there was 12 minutes had PASSED -- it was 12 minutes passed my time that I timed it for. Now all of a sudden my duck's not going to work out exactly how it was on the menu, so now I've got to turn the duck thigh and leg into duck confit and mix it with the fried rice, revamp that thing. So now we've got something else we've got to do.

My sweetbread, I prepared the sweetbread in a classical manner -- poaching, weighting and peeling the sweetbreads instead of slicing and sauteing. Ramsay said, "No, no, no. We're not going to do it that way, we're going to do it my way. I don't care how everybody else does it, we're doing it my way." "Understood Chef." What am I going to do? I'm not going to argue with him; that's something Jen would have done. That would have been a Jen move, and you saw where that got her. spent literally a couple of hours .

So you know what? It's like showing up for work two hours late. Guess what, you're not going to have a good day of work if you show up two hours late.

The duck and the lobster is his fault, but it seems that Ramsay fucked him over on the Sweetbreads. It is his kitchen.

The second one is just heartbreaking

There was actually a malfunction on the set, and my door opened along with Christina’s. Ramsay grabbed me right away and hugged me. I really didn’t know what was going on; I was kind of confused. Ramsay asked me if I forced it open and I said, “No, I just turned the handle.”

I’m a pretty quick study, so with Ramsay hugging me, I figured it out. He said “Petrozza, it’s alright,” and I just thought, ‘Christina won.’ I gave him a big hug back and went downstairs and hung out with my girlfriend and my dad. We celebrated making it as far as we did, and I congratulated Christina for the great job that she did.

http://www.orato.com/arts-entertainment/2008/07/09/petrozza-another-door-another-day?page=1

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34. "RE: Two Petrozza notes"
I thought I detected something wry in Petrozza's whole demeanor throughout the after-party, and had wondered specifically if a malfunctioning lock was the case, rewinding the scene but not seeing any real clues.

Thank you for posting this. (I knew it!)

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