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geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings
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09-20-07, 11:06 AM (EST)
 
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What an asshat that guy was!!!!!!!What I didn't like was what I love about the BBCAmerica version. In the BBC version, he always goes back about a month later to see if they are following his advice and doing better. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. We didn't get that here. If they had, I'd be willing to bet asshat Peter would be back to his juvenile spoiled rotten mama's boy self. 
"And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." Mark Twain
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09-20-07, 11:26 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Kitchen Nightmares" |
I love Kitchen Nightmares on BBC America. I think it really shows Ramsay in a different light. I was disappointed by last night's show. In the British version, Ramsay spends time with the chef on the menu. He spends time with the owners going over the restaurant. Last night's show had about five minutes of that.The rest was centered on that Henry Hill wannabe jerk. I guess it was better drama than actually working on bettering the restaurant. I wasn't too impressed with the "let's buy them a new kitchen and new plates and everything will be hunky dory!" gesture either. I hope it gets better! cindy
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09-20-07, 02:44 PM (EST)
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cindyland, i totally agree with you. The BBC show is really one of my favorites. FOX just could not resist putting their special touches on the show. They cannot give us five minutes with one scene; its always quick cuts, loud, dizzying pace, for short attention spans. I was also looking forward to the show since I am originally from the area, and the BBC version always shows a bit of the town. Well forget that with FOX. They waste the first 7 minutes on recap of Hells Kitchen, then telling us what we are going to see, before the show even starts. UGH....very frustrating, but I will try one more time. I wish Ramsey would step in and give the show a makeover.
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09-26-07, 10:12 AM (EST)
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You're reading us right, Cyndi.This is an inferior imitation of a really good show. I'm hoping Ramsay steps in and makes it more like the BBC version. His narration is honest and to-the-point, he really works hard at making the owners and staff see their mistakes and how to do it better, and he shows how such businesses succeed or fail. And the follow-up segment is always illuminating. It's funny, dramatic, instructional, and usually filled with heart. This version? Not so much.
"And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." Mark Twain
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09-21-07, 10:58 AM (EST)
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I have a crush on Chef Ramsay so I wouldn't miss it...he seriously put down that pathetic co-owner of the Italian restaurant and turned the biz around a 180.
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09-21-07, 03:58 PM (EST)
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I love the BBC version so I was looking forward to this. In Canada they do not bleep any of the language on the BBC version. But I realized FOX would do this. I just wasn't expecting some of the other changes. I missed the "back in a few weeks/months" part. I always look forward to see if they have kept up the changes or reverted back to their problems. And I don't remember the BBC version buying complete new kitchens for them either. Gordon usually makes the owner sell his fancy car to pay for the new kitchen he needs. I guess the American version is going to be giving them freebies.
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10-02-07, 11:06 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: It's episode two..." |
It was the dirties place I have seen on either show. But the redesign was so beautiful.
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Bullzie, did Gordan go back or did the cameras just go back and check on them & how they were doing?That's a good question jbug - I thought GR went back. It was late and I might have misinterpreted though. In any event, showing the update (with or without GR), was enjoyable. QUESTION: All these renovations? Is GR paying for these? I think FOX is paying the tab on the renovations. 
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>QUESTION: All these renovations? Is GR
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>I think FOX is paying the
>tab on the renovations. Man, I would be pissed if I was FOX, and spent all that money renovating the Seaside place, only to have the owner sell it a few months later! My husband looked it up online and the place isn't even a restaurant anymore. The other thing about this version that seems weird...in the BBC version, it was clear that Gordon spent an actual week at each restaurant. On the American version, it seems he only spends three-four days. The other days are "renovation" days or something else. But I never get a sense that he actually spent a whole week at each place.
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29. "RE: The Mixing Bowl" |
On the BBC show, I've seen it where he is able to turn around some of the most incompetent idiots you've ever seen. But some of the best episodes are when he can't. There was one about a restaurant (I think it was in Aberdeen, Scotland) with an owner with way more money than brains, a French head chef who thinks he's god's gift to Michelin, and his entourage of fawning French sous/pastry chefs and minions. Most stubborn bunch of dimwits I've ever witnessed. He got them turned around, but when he came back for the update the owner (to accommodate the French chef's ego, I guess) had split the restaurant into two. One was run the way Gordon had advised and was doing swimmingly. The other was strictly the way the chef wanted it. Unsurprisingly, it was not doing so swimmingly. The chef was more interested in his fancy dishes with eight zillion ingredients than what people really wanted to eat. And even though Gordon brought in a Michelin judge for a tasting (because that was the goal of the chef--the Michelin star he thought he deserved) who determined that, in a blind taste test between a Gordon dish and the chef's dish, his stuff was too muddled, too complex, and just not what makes a great dish, the French guy refused to take the advice.I'm wondering if there will be big, flameout failures like this in the FOX version.
"And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." Mark Twain
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11-14-07, 10:22 PM (EST)
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(I have no idea how that was supposed to be spelled, but.....When the chef son walked out, I thought they'd hire a new good chef and get on with it. His attitude was horrible - talk about arrogant!
But when he returned Ramsay knew just how to handle him and how to push his buttons to make him work. Question tho. Why do they always seem to get over crowded at every new re-opening? Do restaurants ever turn anyone away at the door saying, sorry, we won't be able to serve you tonite? There is a capacity limit to every building - and the fire chief was there! I'd think it would be better to start the new menu with a select group of "invited" guests before trying it for what like hundreds! (wonder just how many they did serve that nite). Did you see the message at the end where RKN is asking if you have a restaurant where you need Ramsay to come in?
We have one in our town (actually we only have 2 places to eat in our whole town!). I'd love to see Ramsay come to either one -then I'd not have to drive 20 miles to eat out! 'Getting older softens you into learning that love, kindness, and forgiveness are far more important than one's opinion.' Sagebrush Dan
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40. "RE: 11/14 Fin McCools" |
OK, was it me or was it a tad much with the vomiting sounds coming out of the men's room?The food critic was ridiculous. She acted like she could make or break the restaurant. Ummmm, Sweetie? The restaurant was already broken. I am not in the restaurant business, but I thought food critics came anonymously - not announced. The Fire Chief acting like it was his name and reputation on the line because there were people leaving. The DIL/Waitress saying she worry about her FIL's health and then we see sirens. This show was too dramatic last night.
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49. "RE: Kitchen Nightmares" |
Personally i find the Uk version to significantly better.Although I think that in both versions, Ramsay is trying to honetly help the people at the center of the show. But in the Us version is just seems like most of the focus is on the personalities involved. Lots of screaming matches between the family members, and between the family (who uniformly seem like jerks) and Ramsay. Not to mention that a big part of the solutions seem to involved throwing cash and interior designers at the problem. Rather than getting the people involved to change their habits, and moving the show forward form there. And one small thing, I 'd rather have Ramsay do the narrating rather than Hells Kitchen guy. my $0.02
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It sounds better than the current foxfare. I guess I'll find out what happens at The Old Stone Mill in Tuckahoe NY tonight.
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