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"Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Please keep all details of Gordon's final decision (and the fiascos that lead up to it) on this thread until the West Coast gets a chance to find out what it is. However, the following items cannot be considered spoilers.

1. Tom will sweat.
2. Keith will complain.
3. Giacomo will do something incredibly stupid.
4. No matter who wins, someone's going to start a thread complaining about the decision.
5. If you thought this was painful, wait until you see the cast selection for Season #3. (We're renewed, y'know.)

Two hours of punishment in the current life, starting right about --


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 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Snidget 08-14-06 1
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 2
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... FlyinBrian 08-14-06 3
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 4
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 5
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 6
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Snidget 08-14-06 11
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... FlyinBrian 08-14-06 7
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... FlyinBrian 08-14-06 8
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 10
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 9
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 12
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 13
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... FlyinBrian 08-14-06 15
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 18
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... FlyinBrian 08-14-06 14
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Snidget 08-14-06 16
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 17
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 20
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... FlyinBrian 08-14-06 21
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Fishercat 08-14-06 19
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 22
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Fishercat 08-14-06 23
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Fishercat 08-14-06 24
 Pregame... Estee 08-14-06 25
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 26
 What's Left To Prove? FlyinBrian 08-14-06 27
   RE: What's Left To Prove? okaychatt 08-14-06 34
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... okaychatt 08-14-06 28
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... jonimoni 08-14-06 29
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Estee 08-14-06 30
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Snidget 08-14-06 31
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Fishercat 08-14-06 32
 Tom FlyinBrian 08-14-06 33
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... okaychatt 08-14-06 35
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... starshyn99 08-15-06 52
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 36
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Snidget 08-14-06 37
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 38
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Fishercat 08-14-06 41
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... FlyinBrian 08-14-06 39
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 40
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... okaychatt 08-14-06 42
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 43
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 44
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Fishercat 08-14-06 45
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... mysticwolf 08-14-06 46
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... FlyinBrian 08-14-06 47
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Fishercat 08-14-06 49
   RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... jonimoni 08-14-06 48
       RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Fishercat 08-14-06 50
 RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East C... Cyndimaus 08-15-06 51

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1. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
6. Heather will have at least 2 major mood swings during the show.
7. Virginia will have at least one deer in the headlights I have no idea what is going on, why am I in a kitchen and why is that man yelling at me moments.



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2. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 08-14-06 AT 07:40 PM (EST)

8. Sarah will annoy the hell out of again.

9. Keith will behave like an azzhole, breathing through his mouth the entire time.

10. Mysticwolf will thank a deity that she'll be done with Gordon for another year.


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10b) And, she'll add a restaurant to her list of 'will never visit' if either of these two actually take it.

Edit to transform a moth into a mouth.

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3. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
So Mark from Road Rules is a reporter now?
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4. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Wow. Well-spotted, as Gordon would say. I don't know how real that was -- the Fox Reality microphones may have been the giveaway there. Central Casting, we need some people who can hold notebooks!

Dear Heather: never dance again. Sincerely, America.


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5. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Virginia's plan: use her palette against Heather.

I keep getting images of Heather being beaten to death with a giant tongue.

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6. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Can we hope that Heather's parents brought her medication with them?


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11. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Coming back from the commercial break..

Apparently not.

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7. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
The theme of Virginia's menu is "Virginia's Brain." Wow, thats one limited menu.
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8. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Signature dish: Deer in headlights
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10. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Grilled venison between sauteed white onion slices.

Hmmm...

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9. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
It sounds like Heather is working on a slightly looser version of your average family wing bar: yes, let the skirts be short! Virginia's menu theme is 'Virginia's brain', which means Virginia's menu now terrifies me. (If it was 'Heather's brain', they would close the place down the first night. Mostly because it would have been burned and flooded, alternating every five minutes.)

I'm actually more curious to see Virginia's menu -- she's the more creative of the two. But the 'servers as ghosts' concept has me worried, especially since she also wants them in black.

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12. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Quick challenge: best of twenty in Vegas, serving signature dishes to casino customers and getting their votes. Chicken for Virginia, fish for Heather, and 10-10 after the pool is emptied. It comes down to a tiebreaker customer, and -- commercials. I'm guessing the winner of this challenge gets first pick of the eliminated.


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13. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Surprisingly compassionate reward from Gordon on those tickets to London and dinner invitation. Yes, that'll be a treat. Back to HK for the normal 'in thirty-six hours?' problems, and here come the eliminated...

Is anyone else looking at Heather with her hair down and thinking 'Hermione'?

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She does look a bit like Hermione. I also watch Virginia cook and think Neville Longbottom!
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18. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I'm still trying to get over Virginia's picks. Keith, so he can carry the others? Given how he feels about her? And, Tom and Giacomo? Then again, everyone thinks she shouldn't be there, so what was she supposed to do, I wonder?
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14. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I thought Virginia was doing well until she picked Giacomo, and then the pep talk was pretty bad.
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That had to be the worst pep talk evah.

*head-wall-repeat*

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17. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I would have taken Garrett over Giacomo, too... in fact, I would have considered grabbing Rachel first, just to keep her away from Heather.

This is not the strongest assortment for the blue kitchen. Virginia has one decent chef with a horrible attitude who happens to dislike her, one who folds under pressure, and one who folds when someone near him happens to think about pressure. Heather won the picks.

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20. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I was thinking the same thing about Rachel. The only thing that might work for Virginia will be if there's a power struggle in Heather's kitchen.

But, since Keith and the others want money in return for their help, and Tom has a thing about working for a woman (not to mention cutting himself), it's not looking good for Virginia unless the editing gnomes are just having fun with us. (probable)

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21. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I guess if you were going for one of the "good" chefs first, that was supposed to be Sara or Keith, and Sara openly sabotaged Virginia.
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19. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
That could be the worst team selection/post-selection process of all time.

OK, Virginia's first pick was fine in K-Grease. I may have gone for Rachel to screw over Virginia, as the Top 3 in the group seem not to like her that much. But Keith is the best line cook in the pool.

Likewise, Heather made a fine first pick with Rachel, as a friendly connection will help a lot.

Then everything went haywire.

With Sara and Garrett remaining, she takes TOM? The mysoginistic (sp?) stock broker? Seriously? He sucked in the kitchen, he sucked out of the kitchen. He sucked.

Heather made a logical pick in Sara, I may have gone Garrett but both work.

Then the kicker
##### GIACOMO!??!?!?! She took GIACOMO? OVER GARRETT? ARE YOU KIDDING?

Man, that second pick was a blessing, as she got the cooks I rate 2-4 in that kitchen (maybe #1, #3, and #4 for Heather if you move Rachel up).

Oh, and telling your team that they are weak? Hah.

And I guess first round draft picks want something now, eh Keith? I'd pay him off, or say he'd get an interview as a high level cook in the restaurant. Heh.

That was horrible people management. Voldy-Kwame anyone?

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22. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I would have offered Tom a job in my new place. And kept my promise. And fired him on his second day.

No, that's unfair. I'm sure he'd be perfectly good at the coat check...


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23. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Eh, she agreed to pay them off. 3,000 bucks for the possibility of improved performance. I'd do something similar, maybe not that much or maybe a non-concrete offer
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24. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
While I think Heather's team is so much better than Virginia...I like Virginia's restaurant and style a lot more than Heather (even if I like Heather's theme more, the execution for V's was a lot better).

This should be good

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Gordon called it: the menus are opposites. I favor Virginia's a little more, but that's because I know she's got the better sense of taste. I just trust the people cooking her food less than I trust Heather's.

Virgina won the design war for me. It looks like a very relaxing place to eat. With Heather's, I'd be perpetually worried about dropping a crumb.

Now, where was Scott during the red team rally?

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26. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Based upon menu and ambiance I have to say I'd be dining in the blue room tonight. I'd have never believed it originally, but Virginia might be able to pull this off if her team steps up. That restaurant was gorgeous.


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27. "What's Left To Prove?"
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OK, so I know there is editing involved here, but Virginia made a better menu and designed a better dining area. As long as she doesn't COMPLETELY fall apart running the kitchen, she should win. Would Virginia lose because Giacamo can't cook?

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34. "RE: What's Left To Prove?"
<As long as she doesn't COMPLETELY fall apart running the kitchen, she should win.

Except now Tom has cut himself and has left the kitchen.

Virginia is already behind getting her main courses out.

The Red Rock owner likes Heather's steak.

But Heather's diners keep sending things back.

Oh, the drama!


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28. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
The way the editing is going, I'll say Virginia wins. Heather's team is way too confident.

Virginia's team's mood has lightened a bit.

Plus, I'd rather eat in Virginia's restaurant.



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29. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
OK, I had to leave the room. I cannot stand Heather and she is on my last nerve. Virginia picks Ugly, Stupid and Hairy to be her helpers? What an idiot! I need to flip channels around until the end......this is making me nervous!
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30. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Heather has the fire, but not the food. Virginia has the food, but not the fire...

We're looking at two halves of one chef. A co-owned restaurant with these two at the head would probably take over Vegas.

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31. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Tom cutting himself--like an animal in a trap chewing its leg off? It got him out of the kitchen.

May I never run into that man, and please NO ONE hire him to cook my food.

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32. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
In terms of ambiance, knowing nothing about the restaurant other than the menu and how it looks? I'd prefer Virginia's, as Heather's is either egotistical or big-brother, and I can't tell which.

In terms of food service (read: speed and quality) and chefs? Give me Heather daily.

It really depends on what you value.

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Tom doesn't like working for a woman. Thank God he has people falling over themselves to give him a restaurant so he can be the boss!
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35. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Virginia is getting a lot of help from Gordon, don't you think?


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52. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I noticed that too. Gordon was trying to fire up her staff more than she was. Constantly yelling at Tom and Giacamo.

I don't think I ever saw him even say boo to anyone other than Heather on the red team.

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36. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Obviously, Tom lives in a house with no mirrors.
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37. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
...in a state called denial.
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38. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
And, as Virginia worries about running out of food and the kitchen hustles to finish, Keith wanders around doing nothing except filling his mouth. Jerk!
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41. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
...I doubt he was eating the Snapper that they needed...
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39. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Service is done. Now time for a quick announcement of the winner with no commercial delays.
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40. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Dreamer.
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42. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Talk about a cliff hanger!

Heather is humble - not sure.

Virginia is, "I know I've won."

Heather has grown in maturity.

Virginia has a gifted palate.

Will the difference lie in the restaurant design itself? If so, Virginia will win.


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43. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Thought they were each saying they thought the other had won. I'll have to check that when I do the recrap.

Like Virginia's parting CT, though.

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44. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
And, unlike last year, she really did get the restaurant. (And she really didn't get to hire any of her own staff.) Interesting. Wonder how long she'll last.

Think he offered Virginia a job somewhere, too?

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45. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
The right person (Heather) won, and while Virginia had the best stylized restaurant, and for their clientelle, the best menu, Heather's kitchen had the best performance. And in the end, that's what should matter. Good for Heather...now, if I could get a simulation of Heather v. Keith...
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46. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
You'd have seen an even bigger win for Heather. Keith can cook, but he could not lead the kitchen when he tried. And, one of them would have been stuck with Virginia cooking for service. And, we all know she can't keep up with cooking for service, but she can manage the window.

I'd rather have seen a simulation of each chef in charge of the other team of line-chefs.

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47. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
The waiters would have had hats turned sideways and pants hanging around their knees!
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49. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
How well did she manage the window then when Ramsay wasn't around? She was quiet, she was far too meticulous with regards to time and taste, she only let people help her up there and got involved with the group when Chef Ramsay told her to.

And who knows, maybe Virginia would have been on Heather's side instead of, say, Garrett (who, with Keith, were the best cooks of the night).

Plus, whose fault was it that her line chefs sucked? Virginia could have had Keith, Sara/Garrett, and Tom/Giacomo: assume Heather took one of Sara or Garrett when she had the chance. That would have been a far superior line. But she dug her own grave in that case. She won the challenge and failed to take advantage of it.

I still think H would have beaten K, but I think it would have been more interesting to say the least. I'm not convinced one bit that Keith couldn't have run the line at least as well as Virginia did tonight. Now, in terms of restaurant design? I loved Virginia's. But Virginia's performance tonight simply maintained what I thought of her last week.

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48. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I think I knew from the first episode that Heather would win, but still did not think there was a single person in the pool good enough to win the prize. If I had to choose between them to pick a friend I would choose Virginia over Heather in a flash. Could not stand Heather, I am pleased this is over. I wonder how awful the people will be next year? I hope they choose some truly talented people to offer this opportunity to, instead of the wanna be's they had this year.....it would make the show so much more fun to watch. Talented flawed people are much more interesting than just flawed people.
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50. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Now that? I can agree with.
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51. "RE: Hell's Kitchen #2 Finale East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Well, being on the West coast I didn't get to participate in the play-by-play. So here I am now...

I thought they both did fairly well. Virginia didn't do a whole lot to encourage her team to do their best (except bribe them, even though she said she didn't want to do that. And she lost so they get nothing.).

I thought Heather's menu choices were good, keeping things simple to make it easier on her staff. I had to laugh at Virginia up at the hot plate being so meticulous with everything and not sending things out.

And what was up with Chef being in her kitchen? Maybe he was in Heather's just as much but we didn't get to see it.

Heather's design for her restaurant was odd. The videos of herself on the wall? When I go out to eat I really don't think much about WHO is making the food but more about how the food tastes. Kind of odd to project yourself into so much of the decor. (literally!)

All that aside, I'm very glad Heather won. She seemed to do better overall throughout the whole competition despite Virginia winning so many challenges. (would love to be inside her hubby's head when he watches how she acted with Chef throughout the whole thing)


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